so to start off, ill say i know absolutly nothing about linux, but i managed to root and flash modacos custom rom to my phone. i have no idea what any of the commands i used to do it mean, or how to use any of them to do anything else (other than removing a bunch of the crap that sprint puts on the phone, i managed to do that with the help of one of the other threads on here). anyways, ive got that done and am wondering what to do now. i came from a titan and am used to when im done flashing things, everything is totally different. like going from stock rom to having m2d and it being super sweet. with the new rom it seems like there isnt a lot of new stuff going on or a lot of changes. wifi tether works amazingly though. anyways, im done with the pointless ranting and heres what im trying to figure out....
1. are all of my contacts really saved to gmail? like all of the stuff from all of them? so if i hard reset, and just sign into my gmail account, will it reload all of my contacts? im used to pim backup and knowing that its all gonna be there after im done doing stuff (ive never used gmail before and am not sure how it works)
2. if i do a hard reset, do i need to redo everything like root and re-flash the custom rom or will all of that stay intact? will all of the sprint garbage like nascar be back on there after doing the cmd propmt remove of it or will i have to do that again? im not nessicarily worried about the apps that i have installed already so im not worried about that at all, i can find them later.
3. is there anything usefull that i can do with root that will increase performance or anything. like i said earlier, i dont know anything about linux , so is there like a list of comands somewhere to look through that might help me out?
4. does a2sd see your programs and automatically move them to the sd with the proper formatting of the sd card? i did the fat32, ext2 and swap. since i didnt know if it moved them over, i manually uninstalled everything and reinstalled them. after uninstalling everything i had 104 free and after reinstall i had 101.
5. would it be benificial to go ahead and do a hard reset, if the sprint crap is back on on all of that other **** that can be erased is back, get rid of that, and start from scratch to install all of my stuff i want. i dl a lot of **** that i uninstalled before. i hear linux is really good at installing and uninstalling things, but if ive dl'ed 75 things then uninstallled them, is there gonna be any garbage left on my phone from it? i know there was a lot of garbage left on the sd before i formated. actually, there was **** on there (on the sd) from progs i dl'ed and uninstalled awhile ago, even after formating so im thinging a hard reset would be helpful.
im sure ill have a lot more questions about this whole linux/android stuff sooo.....if people are trying to be helpful and help me out that would be awesome. if your going to be an asshole and blast me for my nubbish questions, dont bother.
thanks in advance
ix3u
The super-custom ROMS are on their way, they just take some time (we only got root this past weekend afterall!)
1.) Some contacts are saved to your phone, but I believe the default is to save it to gmail. You can check by going into the People App, click menu->View and the numbers should show you how much is on google and how many are on your phone.
2.) I'm afraid I'm not sure on a hard reset...I use Nandroid and if all else fails, the RUU to recover (Nandroid is just a snapshot in time...it will be however it was when you backed it up when you restore....while the RUU puts it back to true "factory", as if you just pulled it out of the box).
3.) There's a few things you can do to the UI settings that can increase performance, but the real performance gains are pending the release of the CDMA Kernel by HTC for us to play with and port some of the performance changes that were done to the GSM Kernel (Google for Teknologic's Kernel 1.8...it's included in MoDaCo 2.9). Teknologic kept a very good changelog and site describing some of the things he did and why.
4.) I have no experience with A2SD, but there's a bunch of threads about it...hopefully one of them will have teh answer you seek?
5.) I suppose a hard reset couldn't hurt...it would certainly rule a lot of things out when troubleshooting. I download a lot of apps too only to find I didn't like them enough to keep them and removed them. From what I can tell, it does clean up the application files pretty thoroughly on the OS partitions...the SD card I believe most apps leave alone on uninstall just to be careful not to delete too much because the SD card is designed for people to access and drop files onto, whereas the OS is meant to be managed by the OS...so it's just being careful to leave data on the SD card to play it safe rather than risk deleting someone's favorite picture of their kid or something.
Xda has been one of the more gentle forums I've seen in a long time. You're in good hands here. Hopefully some of that info was useful...if not, someone else will likely be along shortly to give better/more complete answers. ^_^
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And I have tried various programs, some registry edits, hacks, etc - and I think I have settled on the configuration that I want.
During that time, i have installed and uninstalled quite a bit of software - some on the SD card and others into memory.
I think, at this point, what I woud like to do is clear storage (or is it hard reset - or are they the same thing?) and then reinstall the apps that I intend to use, making sure that I install things like Battery Saver and HTC_Home in memory, while installing less critical apps like Google Maps back onto the card.
I guess my question is - what, if anything, should I take care to back up - and what is the best way to do it?
It looks like my contacts and appointments will be restored when I reestablish my Exchange Server connection. I assume that anything which is already on the card is safe, but what about apps that are installed on the card - should they be uninstalled prior to the reset and then reinstalled?
I believe I have read that the PagePool hack will survive?
Any tips, tricks, advice that might help prevent this turning into an all-weekend project?
Thanks!
Good day folks,
I have searched, and maybe I didn't find it, so forgive me if this has been asked already, and just point me in the right direction...
I am simply a user, who enjoys the fine work the community puts out, I am able to flash back and forth, but not much more than that.
1) I was using the latest Cyanogen (via the CM updater program) with a theme (that I can't recall) with the 'Stericson' lockscreen and build. The main reason I used it was for the look and feel, which really made the phone. Unfortunately, I would use said ROM for about 2-3 weeks, until my G1 would become painfully slow, and would Force Close most any application, including phone and what not. I did clear all the various application caches in the 'Applications' menu of the settings, but the only relief I would get would be to reinstall everything about every 2 weeks. This became onerous and since I require a steady phone for my employment, I reverted back to stock for the stability.
I'm not saying this to say anything bad about Cyanogen or the community, and if there was a way to handle the stability and speed of the software, I would go back to in an instant. In any case, alas, I am back to stock. Any thought or comments about it? I'd be happy to research any questions you may have to help you help me here.
2) Before rooting my phone for the first time, I did downgrade to RC29, then backed up the phone. In that backup were my phone contacts, taken from the last sync before I rooted the phone. Due to another completely separate (non-G1 related) software, my contacts on Google have disappeared. When I restored my G1 to the backup of RC29, I noticed my old contacts were there, however, when the G1 synced with the Google Contacts, the servers overwrote the phone. I would like to know how to either a) force the phone to push the old contacts back onto the server, or b) extract the phone contacts from the G1 backup on the card so that I can enter them manually and force them back on the server.
Thank you in advance for your consideration.
Yeah I stopped using Cyanogen once I felt that it became way to "Mainstream" lol
If you ever decide to go back to your rooted G1 try Super D 1.8.
Very Fast and Stable. Have had it for a few weeks now and speed is still the same
but its really upto personal choice and phone. each phone is different in Very Big to the Most minute ways so you would have to try different ones and find one that is to your liking.
I dont know an easy way but I had to do this once... make a backup... restore your old backup... go to the market and download a contacts to sim app... there are a cpl of free ones.. there are some that backup settings and all... then restore todays backup and import your contacts from sim...
Last night after it was found out the leak and the official release were identical I loaded Fresh 2.1.1. I realized as it was loading I forgot to wipe the phone. I figured I'd let it finish and just have to redo it, but I turned my phone on anyway, just to see.
Everything seems fine. The update seemed to leave everything in tact, while running fine. (and freeing up 55mb of space for apps despite seemingly installing the same apps and leaving mine) The update worked, there are noticeable style differences in quite a few places.
My question is, is this an illusion? Am I not really running the updated versions in some areas? Are there behind the scenes things going on that make it error check and fall back to old "backward comparability" type things, make it slower, etc? Or is wiping just a "safety" thing to give you the best odds of success?
Is my phone going to burst into flames in my sleep, or did I get lucky because most incompatibility examples would be obvious?
I'm not using apps2sd.
Wiping is a safety thing, and also required if there are major changes between versions.
If it is working then don't worry about it. I have flashed 2.1 ROMs over each other before without any problems before, for example a Damageless's Rom over Flipz's. I think as long as the framework matches there is likely to be no problem.
I found one thing that doesn't work. The people app force closes every time I go to actually view a contact.
Does anyone know a good way to clear the contacts without deleting them? (If you delete them in the contact app google syncs the deletion, as it should.)
Actually it looks like it's only a problem on the contacts linked to facebook. Maybe if I can find a way to unlink them, and then link them again, without opening them, they'll be fine.
Just had to removed and re add my facebook account. Good times. So maybe people don't need to redo their phone to jump from 2.0d to 2.1.1. Give it a try.
You've inspired me to give it a try. i, however unlike you, do use a2sd and it's picky as **** so hopefully that stays in tact.
I'll post results after.
I'm not as tech savvy as most of you, but I'm motivated because 1)I just can't stand buying something outright, then having someone else tell me how I can use it, and 2) I follow directions well.
I mostly use my phone to game and as a personal data assistant, with some web searching and very light Facebooking. I don't use ANY of the beaming/dongle/att suite/Samsung Suite, at all.
I got here because I use Clean Master, and it shows me constantly using in excess of 84% RAM, even though I've 'turned off' 63 force loaded apps. 63! And it keeps trying to force download stuff I've turned off. I'm ready to sail this freaking ad-machine into a wall.
So, do I want to root it and use a custom ROM, debloat it, or do I need to do one to do the other? I've done a lot of reading, and there is a ton of info, but it seems to be what to do after this decision point. If I root, does that wipe my phone, or does that happen when I install the custom ROM? Is there someone here who can walk me through it, or point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance for dealing with 'Mr. Newbtastic.'
Kamchak said:
I'm not as tech savvy as most of you, but I'm motivated because 1)I just can't stand buying something outright, then having someone else tell me how I can use it, and 2) I follow directions well.
I mostly use my phone to game and as a personal data assistant, with some web searching and very light Facebooking. I don't use ANY of the beaming/dongle/att suite/Samsung Suite, at all.
I got here because I use Clean Master, and it shows me constantly using in excess of 84% RAM, even though I've 'turned off' 63 force loaded apps. 63! And it keeps trying to force download stuff I've turned off. I'm ready to sail this freaking ad-machine into a wall.
So, do I want to root it and use a custom ROM, debloat it, or do I need to do one to do the other? I've done a lot of reading, and there is a ton of info, but it seems to be what to do after this decision point. If I root, does that wipe my phone, or does that happen when I install the custom ROM? Is there someone here who can walk me through it, or point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance for dealing with 'Mr. Newbtastic.'
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All that searching and found nothing for such a popular group of questions.
You can force stop most of the Samsung bloat ware and disable it, but to fully get rid of it you need to root. How you get rid of it is a different question. 1) manually going through system files and deleting the apk and shtuff, 2) invest in titanium backup pro to freeze the apps, or uninstall them, 3) a popular choice, probably the easiest; flash a pre-debloated ROM, and surely you know how to search so thoroughly to find those.
Rooting does not wipe the device. Installing Safestrap, the only recovery available, does not wipe the device. Installing Xposed and its many modules does not wipe the device. Going into Safestrap recovery, selecting wipe, and factory resetting the device...will wipe the device...and is forcefully suggested by all ROM makers so that you can get a clean install... on a wiped device. Factory resetting is the default option and normally the only one needed for a clean install, and it will not touch your extSDcard, or all those precious pictures and songs that fill your device.
Of course, no one would flash a ROM so often if there was no way to back up all your apps and games and level 80 dark elf, which is exactly what Titanium backup is for. Buy the pro key and you don't have to individually backup or restore any app or data.
This pretty much rounded all bases.
Thank you very much. There's a Q&A post (and I read all 28 pages of it), but it seemed to deal with what happens after my question. Your answer is extremely helpful for those of us with less technical knowledge. Thanks, again!
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Thank you very much. There's a Q&A post (and I read all 28 pages of it), but it seemed to deal with what happens after my question. Your answer is extremely helpful for those of us with less technical knowledge. Thanks, again!
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If no one asked questions, there'd be no answers. Glad to help ?
Ive come across a couple of root apps that want exposed, to either do more things or to work entirely.
Ive been wanting to try the swypetweaks app, to make the symbols appear on the newer themes, but it needs xposed.
Would installing xposed remove anything or stop anything i currently have from functioning? or does it simple allow more things to function? Id plan on making a backup before i started trying anything anyway, but i was just wondering if its supposed to wipe anything or not??
if something did get messed up and i had to recover from my backup from before i installed it, would it be uninstalled/totally removed once i restored??
basicallyi want to try it out but im afraid to mess anything up lol
Pawprints1986 said:
Ive come across a couple of root apps that want exposed, to either do more things or to work entirely.
Ive been wanting to try the swypetweaks app, to make the symbols appear on the newer themes, but it needs xposed.
Would installing xposed remove anything or stop anything i currently have from functioning? or does it simple allow more things to function? Id plan on making a backup before i started trying anything anyway, but i was just wondering if its supposed to wipe anything or not??
if something did get messed up and i had to recover from my backup from before i installed it, would it be uninstalled/totally removed once i restored??
basicallyi want to try it out but im afraid to mess anything up lol
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Xposed is basically a middleman. As stated in the thread, do a backup in recovery before installing in case you have issues, you can restore imediately. It doesn't change anything on your phone in any way that would affect how you use it by itself. You can think of it like when you use a java app on your computer. The java app doesn't know how to talk to the computer, it talks to java, and that does the work for it. It works on most roms, stock and custom. I've been using it for years, and have had minimal troubles, other than a bootloop when I installed the wrong version, or did something dumb. Basically keep the uninstall in your downloads folder, and a backup of your rom, and just try it out. If something goes wrong, try the uninstall, and if that doesn't fix it, clear cache (dalvik too) and restore the rom backup, and you are running like always. The modules can't do anything or affect your system when you remove xposed. Any more questions, please ask. If you quote my post, I'll notice faster and respond within an hour usually, or one of the other awesome members can help out too!
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Xposed is basically a middleman. As stated in the thread, do a backup in recovery before installing in case you have issues, you can restore imediately. It doesn't change anything on your phone in any way that would affect how you use it by itself. You can think of it like when you use a java app on your computer. The java app doesn't know how to talk to the computer, it talks to java, and that does the work for it. It works on most roms, stock and custom. I've been using it for years, and have had minimal troubles, other than a bootloop when I installed the wrong version, or did something dumb. Basically keep the uninstall in your downloads folder, and a backup of your rom, and just try it out. If something goes wrong, try the uninstall, and if that doesn't fix it, clear cache (dalvik too) and restore the rom backup, and you are running like always. The modules can't do anything or affect your system when you remove xposed. Any more questions, please ask. If you quote my post, I'll notice faster and respond within an hour usually, or one of the other awesome members can help out too!
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Have you noticed any more noticible ram being sucked up by something else running? Or does it only run when called for, like java? I know lots of people use it so i cant imagine its a ram hog, but im only working with 1 gig of ram.
the app i originally wanted to try it for, i found a better (severely under rated) keybaord that i like, even better i think, and all the themes arent extra purchases either. but I know greenify, and something else has asked me about exposed too, but i just kept saying no, cuz i was afraid to mess up. lol.
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Have you noticed any more noticible ram being sucked up by something else running? Or does it only run when called for, like java? I know lots of people use it so i cant imagine its a ram hog, but im only working with 1 gig of ram.
the app i originally wanted to try it for, i found a better (severely under rated) keybaord that i like, even better i think, and all the themes arent extra purchases either. but I know greenify, and something else has asked me about exposed too, but i just kept saying no, cuz i was afraid to mess up. lol.
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Xposed itself doesn't seem to take much ram at all. I have run it all the way back to devices like my HTC Incredible, which was released on 2010. That has 512MB RAM and it seemed to run fine. As for modules, they tend to use very little ram. Greenify takes 10MB and powernap takes 3.7MB on my oneplus one. To compare that, Swiftkey takes 49MB and ran just fine even on the incredible with only 512MB RAM. Do a backup, try it out, and if it doesn't work out, restore /system and it's uninstalled. Well, then uninstall modules. For me, it's a must have personally, and I always try it out, even when I know things may or may not work, because it's so easy to remove if things don't go as planned. Make sure you have a backup, and you are golden. Super easy fix on he rare occasion something breaks.
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Xposed itself doesn't seem to take much ram at all. I have run it all the way back to devices like my HTC Incredible, which was released on 2010. That has 512MB RAM and it seemed to run fine. As for modules, they tend to use very little ram. Greenify takes 10MB and powernap takes 3.7MB on my oneplus one. To compare that, Swiftkey takes 49MB and ran just fine even on the incredible with only 512MB RAM. Do a backup, try it out, and if it doesn't work out, restore /system and it's uninstalled. Well, then uninstall modules. For me, it's a must have personally, and I always try it out, even when I know things may or may not work, because it's so easy to remove if things don't go as planned. Make sure you have a backup, and you are golden. Super easy fix on he rare occasion something breaks.
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So, other than the possible odd app that may directly ask for it, does it do anything for the overall phone differently? I think i read that it replaces dalvik, which i also dont quite understand. i know the dalvik cache is like windows prefetch files, but as for dalvik it self, im not too sure. is it better than dalvik? (or, did i read the wrong information somewhere?)
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So, other than the possible odd app that may directly ask for it, does it do anything for the overall phone differently? I think i read that it replaces dalvik, which i also dont quite understand. i know the dalvik cache is like windows prefetch files, but as for dalvik it self, im not too sure. is it better than dalvik? (or, did i read the wrong information somewhere?)
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It doesn't replace it so much as hook into it. Think of how cheat programs can hook into games, or like the steam overlay on games. It hooks in and modifies. Basically, unless you run a module,Aka, an app that needs xposed, then you won't even notice a single bit of difference. Almost 0 ram impact, no discernible performance drop, nada. It's basically a resource hook that allows other apps to hook in to the system. It has different versions for ART and Dalvik (Depending on android version) because they do things differently, so it basically just hooks as needed, and the modules (xposed apps that you want to work) just borrow what xposed knows how to do so each single app doesn't have to figure it out. It's known as a framework. It's just a tool for things to use. Xposed modules can all use that framework to make changes to the system that you ask them to, but otherwise, if you have none installed, it just straps on the system, then does basically nothing as it doesn't really do anything by itself.