i'm about to root yet another device, yay!
this idea may have already been discussed, but... if i'm able to get to the jf/cyanogen recovery console, can i restore a nandroid backup without fully letting the new install process complete?
what...?
you mean you want to bork an update and then restore your nandroid?
i wouldnt recommend it but it should work fine
I have heard in many occassions for those that had bricked their phones were able to do a nandroid restore on their freshly rooted devices. I haven't tried it before but obviously you want to make sure you have the radio updated first followed by whatever spl you were using. Flash the Cyanogen or Amon_Ra recovery file and you should be good to go. If you play your cards right, you might even be able to use switchrom to backup/restore the apps too.
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Hello, I have an original ADP1, updated to the latest official HTC images
I have:
radio: ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip*
recovery: signed-dream_devphone_userdebug-ota-148830.zip*
I want to be able to install other ROMs, like the ones offered in "Android Development".
There are a lot of guides out there on how to do that, my problem is that I want to do a nandroid backup first, before doing any flashing.
For doing a nandroid backup, I understand that I either
1) need to flash a special recovery image so I don't need a PC to restore the backup,
OR
2) Have busybox installed, and run nandroid.sh from recovery mode.
Correct so far?
I wanted to go with option 2), since I can perform a backup before flashing anything on my device. The only problem is that I don't have busybox installed.
I have seen a busybox build (over here http://benno.id.au/blog/2007/11/14/android-busybox ) which is 1.8MB because it is presumably compiled against libC, and have read here that jesusFreke was building one with bionic.
Is the bionic version anywhere to download? I suspect its in newer roms, but I *do not* want to flash a rom just to have busybox, since i only want busybox so I can perform nandroid updates before doing any flashing.
I understand that after having busybox, I just push it into /usr/xbin, --install, and nandroid will just work?
Anyone got a download to the latest, most stable and complete busybox? I would prefer one compiled for android (linked against bionic, etc..)
(what busybox version do you guys use?)
Thanks for your help and sorry for the LONG POST!
Superken7 said:
Correct so far?
I wanted to go with option 2), since I can perform a backup before flashing anything on my device. The only problem is that I don't have busybox installed.
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I can't address most of your post, but there's a flaw in your reasoning that might make it a moot point.
Nandroid won't backup the recovery image - only the primary OS and data. So making a backup using Nandroid on your stock device won't be any different than installing a modified recovery, then backing up your device.
Really, installing the recovery is a trivial activity with little* risk of damaging your phone.
*No guarantees in life, but I wouldn't worry one bit about it.
Thanks for the quick answer!
I guess i'll look for a recovery image that fits my needs then
Let me suggest Cyanogen's Recovery 1.3.1 - As far as I know, the only one with both Nandroid backup and restore. Also has USB mount, really handy for loading updates if your device is fubared and you don't have a card reader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523558
Grr, double post.
Yay thanks!
I guess there are no compatibility problems between recoverys? I mean, just like you need a certain radio version in order to update the SPL, are there any compatibility requirements for that recovery? I don't see any of that in that post, but just in case.. =D
thanks again!! =D
DOUBLE KILL! erm... double post!
I'm not the only one cursed with the double posting, huh?
No, no issues with using any combination of recovery with certain ROMs, SPL, radio, etc.
You're welcome, and good luck.
X10 ?Mini Pro
Works like a charm
when you install titanium backup from the market it will download an actual busybox after first start. maybe you can try this one?
you can use Titanium Backup to update it
this is because my phone is working perfectly and my friend wants a nandroid backup from mine however im not sure if it will brick his phone
It should work just fine. Gl with it.
I think you still need to update the SPL, radio, bootloader, and recovery, but the apps and the ROM will be copied from the nandroid, however, I'm not sure cuz I've never used nandroid to recover after updating any of the above things.
thanks guys i think ill try it wish me luck
Hi.
so i want to back up my rom and try a new one. because so much stuff installed and tweeks i have already made i dont want to lose them all.
what is the possible way to backup everything. and then try a different rom, if i didnt like it i can go back to this rom like nothing happened ?
titanum backup only backup your applications as far as i know. not the whole rom with application
Rom Manager... i tried to do backup once before but it failed to find the rom when i went to the recovery. i dont know if i did something wrong back then. but any help would be thankful
Do a nandroid backup through recovery
Use ClockworkMod and do a Nandroid. Make sure it's the latest version, as one of the CWM versions wouldn't restore properly without reflashing the ROM over the top. Latest version works really well though.
Hello guys,
I've been looking around hier for a while, and I spotted a Custom ROM that I'd like to try, it's this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424260
I've never rooted my phone before so I don't have experience with it.
I found a couple of threads that can help me but, I don't know in wich order I have to follow them.
First of all, I'd like to make a complete back-up of my current ROM, so in case something goes wrong, I can restore it. How do I do this? I read something about ClockWorkMod and a nandroid back-up, can somebody clear this out?
I have an unrooted HTC Incredible S with S-ON. So first, I think that I have to get S-OFF? I found a tutorial with the Revolutionary tool, but it doesn't support my HBoot, so I think that's not an option?
So then, I found this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105
The tutorial is easy to follow, but can I create a full back-up before I start the tutorial?
And to get S-OFF, do I need a rooted device?
I hope somebody can help me. If you need more information, just ask.
Here is some information about my device:
- Android 2.3.5
- HTC Sense 3.0
- S-ON
- Not rooted
- HBoot 2.00.0000
- No SIM-lock
If more information is needed, please ask.
Unfortunately having your current h-boot the method available to you to root and install custom ROMs does not let you back up your phone prior to flashing. As the method used is flashing a new ROM that allows root access to your phone. Prior H-boots (1.13.0000) allowed you to root your phone without flashing a custom ROM thus unlocking boot loader to be flashed CWM as a custom recovery and allowing you to create a nandroid backup of your current state before flashing a new rom. However[/] the process you are going to need to complete might contain a back-up function included in the flashing process, I don't know for sure as I flashed from 1.13.0000, but it doesn't really matter as your going to have to complete the process anyways. I say just go for it and follow the instructions to the "T". If you follow everything properly and take your time you shouldn't encounter any problems.
In the tutorial I posted, step 10 is
10. Using volume up/down and power to select, go down to Backup/Restore. Select it, then hit Backup. ClockWorkMod will backup your stock ROM in case there are any dramas and you want to go back to it.
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Will this create a complete back-up? So when I restore it, will everything be back the way it is right now?
MrSenne said:
In the tutorial I posted, step 10 is
Will this create a complete back-up? So when I restore it, will everything be back the way it is right now?
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Exactly. Stay safe.
So if I just follow that tutorial, I will have a Custom ROM with root? And do I still have to get S-OFF?
You don't need to go S-OFF to flash a custom rom. There is actually no need whatsoever to go S-OFF, unless you want to go and flashing other radios. But the lastest sense 3.0 and android 2.3.5 update included the lastest radio, so keep S-ON. Better for warranty.
First go to htcdev.com and follow the instructions to unlock bootloader. BE AWARE THAT THIS WILL WIPE YOUR PHONE TO FACTORY DEFAULTS for security reasons, sdcard remains untouched.
After bootloader unlocked you can flash the clockwork recovery (you're still S-ON). Once you flashed that you can go into recovery with volumebutton down and power on. Take a backup with clockwork (=nandroid = full image of the phone in its current state) of your original rom and start flashing custom ones.
They're is probably a time where you gonna think you bricked your phone, I have. But I always got through it by searching the forum. Always, in any circomstance, manually push the boot.img of the associated rom from a PC to your phone. So never flash a ROM from your sdcard if you don't have a PC in hand. Otherwise it will probably not boot or get hardware not working (not broken in anyway, just not properly loaded).
Before changing roms, I always do the ARHD wipe script. Just to be sure every trace of the previous rom is gone. There are multiple partitions on your phone (system, data, boot). It wipes all of them to start clean.
The ROMs you are going to flash are rooted by default.
So now, of you go and be a ICS beta tester
Thanks fot the explenation.
But, because I can't root my phone because it's HBoot 2.00.0000; I can't make a back-up of it? Not even with Titanium Back-up.
Is there any way I can back-up my app's? So I don't lose all the saved data in the app's?
MrSenne said:
Thanks fot the explenation.
But, because I can't root my phone because it's HBoot 2.00.0000; I can't make a back-up of it? Not even with Titanium Back-up.
Is there any way I can back-up my app's? So I don't lose all the saved data in the app's?
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As far as I know the answer is "no".
You need clockwork for a nandroidbackup, you need bootloader unlocked for clockwork, unlocking bootloader wipes your phone.
I accidently wipe mine with the unlocking of the bootloader. It seems harder than it is to start over. Just link contacts and calendar with gmail, backup sms on sdcard in messaging. That's all you need. Starting over is good to get the crappy apps gone
Hmm, okay, then I'll have to do it without making a back-up.
And is there an easy way to switch between ROM's? Without using a computer.
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And is there an easy way to switch between ROM's? Without using a computer.
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It is very easy to change roms. They are stored in zip-format on your sdcard which you can browse to with clockwork. Also the nandroidbackups are stored on your sdcard and can also be chosen with clockwork.
Experience tells me that you still need to flash the boot.img of the rom manually after you flashed the rom (something to do with clockwork not able to write in boot partition while in recovery-mode, you have to be in fastboot-mode). Flashing the boot.img litterly takes 2 secs to upload, done, and reboot.
So it is no big deal to swich:
- boot in recovery
- browse to the desired rom/backup
- start and wait 5 mins
- boot in fastboot
- connect to pc and flash boot.img
- wait 2 secs and reboot
Do not flash when you need the phone and there is no pc around. If it goes wrong, you need your usb pc to fix things.
I heard something about Rommanager, can I use this and what does it do excactly?
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I heard something about Rommanager, can I use this and what does it do excactly?
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ROM Manager is an app that works with ClockworkMod recovery to keep it up to date and allows you to make and manage CWM nandroid backups and manage partitions on your SD card. The paid version also allows you to download custom ROMs and flash them.
It requires root access in order to run.
But it's not a necessary application?
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But it's not a necessary application?
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No, not really.
Ok, propably I'll try it this evening.
Thanks for everything who helped me, I followed the tutorial and everything is working fine.
Hello all,
I've been running Eclipse 2.2 on 902 for some time and I've stubbornly refused to switch away from using bootstrap for all my backup needs, however, after reading enough about it I decided to give safestrap a try. I've had a little trouble with the process however and was looking for a little clarity...
My understanding with safestrap was that in addition to giving me a safe (technically unsafe) 2nd partition/access to recovery in case I messed something up, that it would also pretty easily transfer data, apps, etc from one partition to the next, making flashing roms (and I thought updating) much easier and quicker without needing to backup individual portions of my system, Is this correct or am I mistaken?
Onward to what I did (my goal is to update to 905 and install eclipse 3.0) - Installed safestrap, backed up safe and unsafe side. I then went to unsafe and used bootstrap to restore to IMMEDIATELY after I applied the 902 update (had backed it up previously). This backup was literally a stock Bionic which I had updated from 886 all the way to 902, rooted, then installed bootstrap to backup. I then updated this to 905 with no issue, and of course backed it up... From here, my understanding was that I could simply swap over to safe side, then install the eclipse 3.0 through finding a zip in recovery - Recovery would not do this for me. It gave me an error similar to "cannot apply eclipse3.0.zip (bad)"
I tried to push the ROM both without making any changes (just switching from unsafe to safe and immediately trying to apply the zip) and when that didn't work I wiped data, formatted system, and wiped cache/dalvik and got the same error. (the net result through all of this was making my safe side non-responsive, and me ending up restoring safe side system to the initial backup I had made about 30 minutes prior).
Is this working as intended? Should I look at safestrap as purely an extra failsafe to keep me from bricking my phone and not an easier method to flash/update? If I have to expect that I need to go to safe, follow the same path to apply the update as I did on unsafe, then flash 3.0 and restore with titaniumbackup, sms/call log backup, etc, I will, but I just wanted to make sure I'm not misunderstanding something with safestrap that may allow me to make this whole process easier - I'd be much more interested in trying out a variety of ROMs if the restoring of my data wasn't such a hassle when I did it.
Sorry for the long post - I'm long winded and also wanted to get all of the information out there for anyone who may answer.
Thanks in advance!
-Jamie
Guess I was too wordy and nobody wants to read it (or posted in the wrong spot maybe) -
tldr:
Is there a way to use safestrap as having a way to easily transfer data etc from one rom/update to the next? or should I be using it solely to have an extra backup to prevent me from bricking my phone, and just do the longer more arduous methods of restoring data and settings after a rom swap/update?
I'm no expert but I have successfully used Safestrap, installed eclipse 3.0 as well as tried other roms and themes, and have other Android experience as well. Sounded like you may have used bootstrap and Safestrap at the same time. Am I wrong? If not, from my understanding that is a no no. Uninstall bootstrap completely and use Safestrap only. I also upgraded my "unsafe" system to .905 via OTA before attempting 3.0. My first experience with Safestrap, however, was not entirely positive either. I think my download was corrupt because it stopped working correctly. I downloaded again and haven't had any problems since. I followed this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455888 and it worked. He's not really all that clear at times. It's also not necessary to factory reset after flashing a new rom. Always do it, but it can be done before too. I always do it before and have no problems. Also if you decide to apply a theme make sure you boot up the new ROM before flashing the theme. This guide was not entirely clear on that and it got stuck in a wicked boot loop that ended with me on stock and Safestrap gone. Keep trying. Hope some of this helped. I'm wordy too
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Btw, to answer your first question, the best way I've found to transfer user apps from ROM to ROM is with titanium backup. Other data will still be on your sd cards and accessible to the new ROM. I never use titanium to restore system settings and most system apps though. Things tend to get messed up if you try to do this from one rom to another. System apps can be converted to user apps with titanium which is cool then backed up and restored to new ROM. And never restore Google play app with titanium. Some go so far as to say don't restore apps with data but I haven't had any trouble except with core google apps like play, gmail, voice. Usually flash gapps if I have to and restore other core Google apps directly from play store. Sometimes titanium "hangs" on some apps. Not to much trouble with it lately maybe it's fixed used to be a PIA though.Sorry there's still plenty of setup involved any time you want to "dial in" a new ROM.
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Thanks G-diddy,
To clarify, I knew bootstrap and safestrap didn't play well together. That being said, I did NOT use safestrap to try and restore to a bootstrap backup. I installed safestrap, then swapped to my UNSAFE side, then restored to a previous bootstrap backup (using bootstrap), then OTAd to .905. I then backed up this fresh near stock but rooted .905 with safestrap (thus should never have to use bootstrap ever again). I then tried to swap over to safe and push eclipse 3.0 but had no success... At present my phone has near stock but rooted .905 on my unsafe side, and the same .902 with 2.2 eclipse on my safe side that I've been running for months...
I guess I have no choice but to restore my present safe side to the old bootstrap backup, then manually ota, then install the rom, I just thought that Safestrap would make all of this process easier - in as much as since my unsafe side is successfully updated, I was hoping my safe side would be too, making the process somewhat simpler. Sounds like I'm wrong in this assumption though, unless someone else can say otherwise?
Thanks for the tip on Titanium Backup too, although I've been using the premium version of that for months now, ever since I decided I was going to turn my phone into a toy