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Hey,
I have decided to give CyanogenMod a go for the first time.
I've been rooted for some time now - running a stock Gingerbread 2.3.4 rooted.
I've heard so many good things about CyanogenMod and I have had an itch for a bit of a change, that I decided now is a good time to give it a try.
I was hoping you guys might be able to help me clarify a few things first though.
I have Link2SD installed and setup. I have linked a couple of apps using and I was wondering if anyone knows how it works with Titanium Backup?
What I was hoping to be able to do was:
Code:
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Make a back up of some of my apps + their data using Titanium Backup - Some of these apps have been moved using Link2SD
2)
Install ClockworkMod Recovery and make a full nandroid backup.
3)
Make a backup of all the contents on my SD card - from the fat32 partition primarily.
4)
Install CyanongenMod using ROM Manager
5)
Redo the ext2 partition on my SD card and reinstall Link2SD once CyanogenMod has been installed
6)
Reinstall Titanium Backup and restore all the apps I backed up.
I was hoping that by doing the above I could hang onto all the custom settings I have in some of the apps.
For the apps that have been linked using Link2SD, will Titanium backup restore them properly as long as that ext2 partition on the SD card is there?? Or am I going to run into issues?
I have done some searching on these forums but there seems to be no clear cut answer.
Any help or advice would greatly be appreciated!
Thank you
You'll be fine - just make a full Titanium backup and a nandroid (just in case).
Do a full wipe, install CM with gapps, install your apps2sd, then restore your Titanium backup...
Titanium Backup will just restore the apps to the /data partition (or the ext if you have app2sdext enabled), but since link2sd is setting up individual symlinks for each app, those probably won't be carried over when you restore with Titanium Backup. You will have to redo those apps. But this may be time to look into a full app2sdext option. It is much simpler than link2sd and there aren't any noticeable performance hits (unless you do data2sd).
Good catch bass - I missed the Link2SD detail!
@danger-rat @bassmadrigal
Thank you guys for giving me some advice.. it is much appreciated!
So the app2sdext option can be done using dark tremor?
I was looking at dark tremor previously when I was trying to decide what method to use to relink apps.
Do you guys know of a good tutorial to go about setting it up? Is it done pre install of Cyanogen? Or post install?
My other concern about moving apps to the SD card using methods like link2sd and dark tremor is recently I had a situation where my ext2 partitions filesystem actually became corrupted. I ended up having to a 'fsck' on it to repair it ( I am pretty sure I got lucky with that ). Using the app2sdext do I still have the options to decide what I move to my SD card?
You can use Darktremor or S2E as the popular methods. S2E is a bit more intuitive (its an app in the market, with a front end GUI).
Install after you've installed CM.
As far as corrupt cards, just make sure you backup from time to time. Titanium or nandroid should do the trick. The advantage of having an ext partition is that once you have the partition, you can reformat it without losing your regular SD partition...
i would also recommend S2E, recently went from dt to
s2e and its working great.
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I remember seeing you mention s2e once before! At the time though I couldn't use it since I wasn't running CyanogenMod
That sounds like a good plan.
What do you think of this
Code:
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Do a Titanium Backup of my apps+their data
(including ones that have been moved using link2sd)
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When I install CyanogenMod, setup and install s2e
3)
Install Titanium Backup and start recovering my apps.
Since Titanium Backup should restore apps linked via
link2sd back to the default /data directory, I should just
be able to relink them using the s2e method?
I was wondering something else to actually.
@danger-rat you have mentioned in the past that you do not like the most recent version of the ClockworkMod recovery due to stability and reliability issues (I have seen a few other people say this as well). If this is still the case, can you recommend a version to install? From Rom Manager itself, can you choose a different version of ClockworkMod recovery to install?
Sorry for all the questions!
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Just after I posted this I noticed there is an option in Rom Manager "All ClockworkMod Recoveries" - It looks like this option will allow me to install older version of ClockworkMod?
I use CWM 2.5.1.4 and install via ROM Manager, just as you suggested...
Thank you sir for suggesting a version and confirming I can do it via ROM manager.
Hopefully I can try this in the next couple days. Will report back success/epic failures!
Thank you baseballfanz as well!
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Why posting a question in general section???
Thread moved.
hey sorry I wanted to ask one more question...
Since I plan on implementing s2e I will have to reformat my ext2 partition to ext3 or 4 (I think it said ext4..)
My question is, what should I do with my fat32 partition?
After I backup all the data on it, should I reformat it as well? Then after I get CyanogenMod installed, move back only what is important - Titanium backup directory for example? Or copy everything that was on it. There will probably be a lot of useless/old files on there that aren't really useful.
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Sorry Mr.Clown for posting in wrong section.. I'll post correctly next time!
i went from dt a2sd to s2e with no need to redo anything on my sd card. i had ext4 already.
if you use amon ra you can change ext 2 to ext 3 or ext 4.
Sorry, I was gone all day and away from a computer. Glad others chimed in. But to start, S2E and DarkTremor's a2sd both are not selective on which apps are installed to the sdcard. It is an all or nothing approach. That is the difference between app2sdext and link2sd. With S2E, you just install it and open the app. Select the checkboxes to move apps to the sdcard and then I recommend moving the dalvik cache as well (as it takes a lot of space). Reboot, and any apps you install/restore will be automagically put on the sdext partition.
And to answer your last question, if you already have an ext partition on your card, there is no reason to change it. It may say ext 3 or 4 is needed, but I am running ext2 on mine without any issues (I have been too lazy to take the time to change it). Just make sure the ext partition is wiped (which can be done in recovery under Mounts and Storage). The fat32 can be wiped, but it isn't necessary. Although, if it has been awhile, you may want to consider it, just to get rid of some of the stupid folders that devs can't figure out how to keep them out of the root of the card.
@bassmadrigal
thanks for the response man!
All or nothing eh? I will give it a try and hope for the best! At least then I will have more flexibility in the amount of apps that I can have!
I think I will just reformat the entire card since it has been a while. There is so much stuff on the card now I don't really know what is what anymore. I will keep a back up of it though juuuust in case.
I think the ext2 partition might have some files left over from link2sd so I think I might wipe it out as well and start again.
I have since removed all the apps I moved using link2sd just to calm my nerves a little bit (ha!).
I am currently trying to purchase titanium backup but it looks like maybe the market is having issues. It is stuck on "Authorizing purchase..." seems like a few people have had this.
In the mean time I will install the recovery image and do a nandroid backup!
Just as an FYI, if you redo your partitions (ie repartitioning your sdcard through the recovery), that will erase and format both partitions. I think by default, clockworkmod will do an ext2 partition, whereas Amon_RA gives you the option between ext3 and ext4. One thing to keep in mind, in the past, with ClockworkMod v3.x, it had been known to cause issues with partitioning cards. I don't know if that has been fixed in the v5.x, but I know it doesn't exist in v2.x and it also works properly in Amon_RA.
All or nothing really isn't a bad approach. I have a class 4 32GB Sandisk, and I don't seem to have any speed problems. Then, with some of the apps that have a large amount of data, I will move those individually with Titanium Backup. Two big ones are Google Earth (16MB of frickin data), and Firefox (I don't remember how much, but it is still a large amount). But I had to move those because I was running out of room in my internal memory (I have a lot of apps installed).
I was actually just about to update this thread!
I have been busy since my last post!
I have since installed clockworkmod recovery, done my backups, installed cyanogenmod, and am just in the process of going through it.
I FINALLY got titanium backup pro key to install.. I think there must have been something wrong between google and the titanium backup app, but after like 2 hours of trying it finally went through!
I think I am okay with the "All or nothing approach" as well. I know now that I need to start to take backups WAY more serious! So if I ever run into a situation where my ext partition dies, I won't be devastated!
I think what I will end up doing is reformatting it all tomorrow at work. I will turn the phone off, remove SD card, format using a Linux system at work, place card back in and go from there.
To restore my ROM Manager backup and my Titanium Backups I just have to copy those folders back to the SD card (after the format) from the backup I made of the SD card prior to formatting it (sorry if I am sounding repetitive, I can't tell if what I am saying will make sense to anyone other then myself lol + plus I am EXHAUSTED!)
That's awesome though its working for you. I have a class 10 8 gig kingston SDcard and so far its been great!
So when I setup s2e (I have it installed, but not configured!) I should select the check boxes "Applications, Private apps, and Dalvic Cache"?
You mentioned that you use Titanium Backup to move certain apps like Google Earth... I was just wondering in what direction you were moving them? From the phone to the SDcard, or from the SDcard to the phone? Sorry for probably another really stupid question I just wanted to make sure I was following you correctly!
Thank you again for all your help though. Things have gone smoothly so far
In S2E move applications, private apps, dalvik cache and optional too download cache.
As for moving data to sd card individually by Titanium, you are moving the data from internal memory to sd card
Yes, all you need to do is copy those folders back, but if you restore any of your nandroid backups, you will reset everything in your system back to the time before you installed S2E. So, I would only do that as a last resort. But, Titanium Backup does not have that limitation. It is just restoring the data to whatever the system is setup to do.
Once you do get everything up and running properly, it would be beneficial to do a nandroid. But as far as a lot of backups, you can set TB to run on a schedule to back up your phone every so often while you are asleep. And then, I just make sure I do a nandroid before I flash ANYTHING.
And ditto for what baseballfanz said. I never bothered with the download cache, as that is stored on a different partition within the phone (the /cache partition). Unless you resize all your partitions, it is probably pointless to move it. And yes, I am moving the data (ie the saved games/settings etc) for the app to the sdext partition with Titanium Backup, but you probably won't need to do this for a while (I have 213 user apps installed according to TB).
@bassmadrigal and @baseballfanz
Thanks guys for all your advice!
Sorry for the million's of question, I'm learning a lot from you guys though!
So.. Cheers!
Nandroid is similar to Acronis (imaging software) for PC so I definitely follow you when you say that restoring an Nandroid backup will erase anything I have done since doing that particular backup.
Good to know that moving those folders back onto the SDcard is all I have to do so now reformatting the card isn't as scary! Oh and I have to make sure I grab the Titanium Backup License file - Sorry I just read this is the old method!
I will definitely take your advice and produce a Nandroid backup once everything is up and running just in case! I have been thinking about it and I figured I could automate a backup of the Titanium Backup folder and the clockworkmod folder by using the rSync app. I could just copy everything to my NAS during the night, which would ensure I have two physical copies just incase my SD card decides to dead.
thanks for clarifying the direction of the data being moved using titanium backup. I figured it was that but wanted to be sure. I still have a lot of learning to do with that app to get fully familiar with it!
I'll be setting up my two new partition today and hopefully I can start restoring apps later this afternoon. Will report back my status.
Thanks again for the help!
cheers
I would like to restore my applications off of some backup files created by my backup pro, my issue is that I cannot restore them because it says that SD is either full or to disconnect from PC and make sure that the SD is mounted correctly.
If anyone has any alternate methods of restoring APK and data files or help they can provide that will be greatly appreciated. I will be searching the forums until then.
I installed .APK files but would like to restore all data as well, I copied all files from phone to PC can I just drag and drop data and all should be good?
I have SGS Captivate rooted with Corn Kernel v7.06
Dunno about my backup...the must popular app for restoring is titanium backup.
studacris said:
Dunno about my backup...the must popular app for restoring is titanium backup.
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Too late I already paid for it *goes into other room* *Gunshot sound*
Thanks anyway for the tip
H4MM3R311 said:
Too late I already paid for it *goes into other room* *Gunshot sound*
Thanks anyway for the tip
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You might have to suck it up and buy tibu add well. I had bought system tuner pro (which is good) after getting on here I realized that I should get tibu.
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That means there is a problem with your sd card. The error message isn't very detailed, but that's what it is, short of your sd card being full.
The program needs cache space to unzip the backup and such.
I have used my backup pro over tibu and wouldn't change that. My backup pro freezes apps, backs up apks and data either separately or in one shot and also backs up favs,mms/sms, calendar, etc....
The only thing I use tibu for is to remove system apps.
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That means there is a problem with your sd card. The error message isn't very detailed, but that's what it is, short of your sd card being full.
The program needs cache space to unzip the backup and such.
I have used my backup pro over tibu and wouldn't change that. My backup pro freezes apps, backs up apks and data either separately or in one shot and also backs up favs,mms/sms, calendar, etc....
The only thing I use tibu for is to remove system apps.
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Thanks for all of your responses, much appreciated. If that is the case "there is a problem with your sd card" then how am I to test that theory? like how can I figure out if there is something wrong with my SD and by SD you mean my external SD??
a_fuegon said:
That means there is a problem with your sd card. The error message isn't very detailed, but that's what it is, short of your sd card being full.
The program needs cache space to unzip the backup and such.
I have used my backup pro over tibu and wouldn't change that. My backup pro freezes apps, backs up apks and data either separately or in one shot and also backs up favs,mms/sms, calendar, etc....
The only thing I use tibu for is to remove system apps.
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TiBu will do that too. Plus wifi connections, bt pairings, move apps to sd, or vice versa. And do it quicker than My Backup.
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TiBu will do that too. Plus wifi connections, bt pairings, move apps to sd, or vice versa. And do it quicker than My Backup.
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Yeah I'm going to buy it, thank you.
If you or anyone can help me on this other thread on another subject I would be greatful, thanks. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23008889#post23008889
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Yeah I'm going to buy it, thank you.
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Both Titanium Backup and My Backup have free versions (as do many apps). Try the free versions first before jumping in with the paid version. I don't have problems with My Backup (I use the Root version).
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Both Titanium Backup and My Backup have free versions (as do many apps). Try the free versions first before jumping in with the paid version. I don't have problems with My Backup (I use the Root version).
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True, titanium does offer a free version. However in order to unlock its true power, you need the paid version. My Backup Root is pretty good. I used to use it before i bought TiBu. Buy TiBu is,imo, the better of the two.
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True, titanium does offer a free version. However in order to unlock its true power, you need the paid version. My Backup Root is pretty good. I used to use it before i bought TiBu. Buy TiBu is,imo, the better of the two.
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Yeah huge difference, I bought it. although for people with little or no experience with android my backup is just fine.
hallo all, don't know if someone is reading that, but i have a problem with mybackupro 4.0.2
after restart i loose my data , that i restored with mybackup pro before. When i restore data and simply go back, the data are restored ... but after reboot all the data is gone and the apps are in factory mode
guys, im looking for a backup app that backups all my contente, like games and apps.
meanwhile, when you use titanium backup, does it also backup the game data folders where my saved game are, or he just backups my apk? and where dos it bakup all that? on SD card or what? and does it need root, as i dont have it?
Try using Google for questions like that please. They aren't exactly device-specific questions :banghead:
Carbon
I do not know if I understand what you want. however, check whether this application serves you. "CARBON" No root and backup. It's new and it's Playstore.
link:
http://mobilexpert.com.br/diario-do-android/materias/2255/
Titanium Backup can store everything and anywhere. I tried a custom ROM this weekend so I made a complete backup of all my data on my sd card, tried the ROM (I had to delete everything first) and came back to the LG stock ROM and I used Titanium Backup to restore my data. Everything is as before, I did not lose anything (and I have a few games)
but i heard it need root. i dont have it (cant have it), is it true?
I'm not sure that the pro version needs root (that's the only app you should pay for) since I have it. It's not really hard to do. Else i don't know other solutions but Google can definitely help you
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Why cant you have root acces ?
Hi everyone,
this is urgent so please help. I am a Noob and I today was successfully able to root my nexus one. Before rooting I had installed "Super Backup" app and backed up all data. My query specifically pertains to App Data Backup and restore.
So once I had backed-up all apps/sms etc, I copied all my sd card data to my computer. Then I Rooted the phone. Now once rooted, my phone is totally bare without any apps or settings but the sd card is not wiped. So I installed "Super Backup". I opened the app and it showed all the apps in the archived state. I was happy and restored all apps. What it has done is that it has re-installed all apps however they are like new, they dont have my data settings or game progress. I am really worried, and need all my data/settings/progress back.
I also saw on sd card backup image folder "SmsContactsBackup", there are lot of apk files. Can someone please let me know whether I have lost all app data or can I get that somehow?
Please its important.
Got the Answer
I got the answer in another thread. GIven that my phone was non-rooted, so the apps backed up all right but not the data ((((
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40101287
I'm rooted with a Note7 v2 on Marshmallow. I upgraded from a Note2 on KitKat. Many of my apps, restored with Titanium Backup, can't write to the external sd card as they used to.
For example, TB can't make backups into the same folder where it made them before. Dolphin can't save files where it did before, etc.
I've been reading up on the whole permissions on Marshmallow changes, and I've got some workarounds. TB now saves to Android/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup etc.
Is there a better solution to this problem? I'm surprised there isn't more of an outcry. Can anyone steer me towards more help on this issue? Is there any way to give access to my apps to the extSD card?
Thanks!
I don't know if there's a better solution, but be very careful with that /Android/data/... subdirectory. It will be automatically deleted if you ever uninstall the TB app. I just did exactly that and now all my backups are gone
I was just about to restore them on a freshly wiped device, too. Just wanted to reset TB's settings to the defaults.... whoops. Worst of all, I followed the advice on Ti's own website and moved all my previous backups into that directory. Whatever you do, don't do that!