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Guys,
I understand you are concentrating on the WM5 upgrade and other interesting projects. Maybe, you can take a few moments out to share some of your experience with a newbie....
I am using TuMa v1.5 WM5. I am able to use BT really well (of course, the issue of BT turning off with device on stand-by remains).
I am able to connect with my TomTom and with my Cardo Scala BT headset. The problem is this: If I use the headset to initiate a call using the BT headset (by double-clicking the headset buttom to redial or by pressing the BT headset button to voice dial) the call goes through as intended BUT my voice does not go over the BT headset to the other party. Also, the voice from the other party can be heard over both, the BT headset and the phone. This problem DOES NOT appear if I make the calls using the phone with the BT headset connected to it.
Please advice. Thanks for your help and for a great forum, especuially for us newbies.
Sagar
bt headset
Select use for phone only. Perhaps then it works.
The headset is connecting to device audio, not phone audio.
sgrbhtngr said:
... I am using TuMa v1.5 WM5.
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Really? ... Wow! I'd better update my firewall again.
How'd you steal that version off my machine! 8)
For the sake of argument, I'll presume you're using v1.4, since it has the most up to date BT elements in it, but v1.3 should be very stable for BT communications as well.
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I am able to use BT really well (of course, the issue of BT turning off with device on stand-by remains).
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Yeah ... I'm still looking into this. I hope to have this working through the Microsoft Stack. The Widcomm one is still looking like a "last resort", and it really is a bit more 'ugly' to use - especially in it's compatibility and (from what I can see) reliability.
sgrbhtngr said:
I am able to connect with my TomTom and with my Cardo Scala BT headset. The problem is this: If I use the headset to initiate a call using the BT headset (by double-clicking the headset button to redial or by pressing the BT headset button to voice dial) the call goes through as intended BUT my voice does not go over the BT headset to the other party. Also, the voice from the other party can be heard over both, the BT headset and the phone. This problem DOES NOT appear if I make the calls using the phone with the BT headset connected to it.
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Hmmm ... this sounds like there is still some form of a headset audio routing issue as vastloper indicates. Try ensuring that only one profile is active at the time (headset probably).
I will shortly have all the gear I need in order to properly test this myself too.
FYI: I've now recently purchased the following devices:
- SIRF Chipset Bluetooth GPS Unit
- Motorola HT820 Stereo Bluetooth Headphones
- Jabra BT 150 Headset
- Jabra BT 330 Headset
- BlueTrek X1 Headset
And now have access to another Jabra BT 500 Headset, and another pair of Bluetooth Stereo Headphones.
So ... shortly, I will have the ability to REALLY test everything out myself in the Bluetooth realm.
Now all I need is 5 ears, and enough pockets to carry all this stuff in.
The process I used....
Thanks, vastloper and Tuatara.
Tuatara- genius AND a sense of humor... thats a rare combo! We all appreciate your efforts in bringing WM5 to us. You go out of your way to make it better for us. Thanks.
Regarding the issue on this post, just FYI- I used MOHDWADEA's process for voice command over BT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42923&highlight=
Could this cause the problem? Does this light any light-bulbs, any 'aha' moments? Please let me know- I greatly apprecaiet it.
Thanks,
Sagar
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sgrbhtngr said:
Thanks, vastloper and Tuatara.
Tuatara- genius AND a sense of humor... thats a rare combo! We all appreciate your efforts in bringing WM5 to us. You go out of your way to make it better for us. Thanks.
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You're welcome ... remember it is a 'selfish' undertaking too. I want my phone to [email protected]$#@!#!! work for me ... but it's taking some work to get it to that point.
sgrbhtngr said:
Regarding the issue on this post, just FYI- I used MOHDWADEA's process for voice command over BT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42923&highlight=
Could this cause the problem? Does this light any light-bulbs, any 'aha' moments? Please let me know- I greatly apprecaiet it.
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It's possible. I'm not entirely certain what this will change in the configuration (or versioning of replaced DLL's), but it is possible that there are compatibilty issues. Since I don't have a device with TuMa v1.3 on it anymore (one's on Alpha v1.5 testing, and the other is a AKU2 'brick' attempt at the moment), I can't even find out for you.
Hi all, I have had this bug in varying flavours with both the Wizard and now the Kaiser.
If I make a call via Bluetooth (certain devices only e.g. JVC in car stereo), after the call, all audio is lost on the device when using the speaker, e.g. no ringtones, no TomTom voice guidance. (Oddly the touchtone sounds on the phone dialler continue to work.)
Making another call via Bluetooth works fine and all audio is heard, but not if calling via the earpiece of the phone - all phone audio is still muted. A reboot is required. (Even after a reboot, sometimes all audio is muted, and 2 or 3 reboots are required.)
It is like Bluetooth is 'stealing' the audio from the phone's speaker (which is should), but not giving it back at the end, however turning off Bluetooth doesn't return it.
It happens with WM6.x on the TyTN II.
If you can fix it either via a workaround (reboot the audio service after every call?) or a direct fix (HTC are useless and have not emailed me back), I will pledge you $100 via PayPal. I am sure others will join me in pledging an amount also.
Yes. I've seen the same thing with the last stock Tilt ROM, too.
Same here. But is not happening very often.
The other issue for me is if I have A2DP enable and listening to music, then making a phone call will drop the A2DP connection and I have to reconnect A2DP again. It happens to both my JVC car unit and Sony HBH DS220.
I tried that w/ Dutty's WM6.0 and the latest 6.1 rom
I have the same issue, with bluetooth disconnects.
Just staying on-topic here (you can solve A2DP issues with A2DPToggle a great free app), has anyone found a solution to this Bluetooth loss of speaker audio issue, or a workaround to avoid it happening?
Rebooting the phone after every Bluetooth phone call is hardly what I consider a high-end smartphone to require.
Same here
What Radio's are you guys running? (Ignore my signature for the moment, been phoneless and away from here for a while and just getting back up to date )
Haz
My current radio is 1.64.08.21.
I have also tried 1.64.06.04.
Could we be closer to finding the problem? Does the Radio contain the Bluetooth stack?
Here are all available Radios:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
I'm going to try 1.58.26.20 now. I suggest others try the other 1.5x variants and report back if any of them solve the bug.
Update: I am now offering $100 to anyone who can fix this - see 1st thread.
I have used Windows Mobile since the first ever SPV phone. This one issue is making me look seriously at abandoning that loyalty and getting a Blackberry. If I can fix this for $100 I could be tempted to stay however.
Have you tried BT Audio Toggle ? (found at http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/sams...luetooth-headset.html?perpage=20&pagenumber=1)
Maybe if this helps with your problem then a mortscript could be written to automatically run the utility after a phone call.
What bluetooth headset do you have? Have you tried other headsets or just the one you have? What version of 6.1 are you using?
Thanks, I'll give the audio toggle a go. Might need some help with Mortscript though
I am using the JVC KD-BT1 car stereo with Bluetooth in-car kit. However I can also lose audio on a clean boot even when not in the car, although that is very rare. When using it with the car stereo, it happens after almost every call.
I am running Sleuth's WM6.1 but the other people in this thread are using a variety of BT devices, ROMs, and HTC models.
Can anyone help with how to create a MortScript to run BTAudioOff.exe after each phone call?
Flash a NIKI radio. I had a similar issue with my JVC in-dash CD player and I just got all the radios and tried them all. All the NIKI radios seem to work a lot of the time, while some work and others don't.
Kraize92 said:
Flash a NIKI radio. I had a similar issue with my JVC in-dash CD player and I just got all the radios and tried them all. All the NIKI radios seem to work a lot of the time, while some work and others don't.
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Thanks, I'll try that too.
Rumball said:
Have you tried BT Audio Toggle ? (found at http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/sams...luetooth-headset.html?perpage=20&pagenumber=1)
Maybe if this helps with your problem then a mortscript could be written to automatically run the utility after a phone call.
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Okay I tried this and before I even got in the car, chose to turn Bluetooth Audio off using the toggle. Since then I cannot recreate the issue! I am not having to toggle after every call, I only did it once and the problem won't come back!
Fingers crossed...
NP. 1 more thing. What do you mean all audio is lost? Do you mean that the auido goes through the bt device? Or just that there is no audio coming from either at all. If that's the case, then all you might have to do is go to Comm Manager>Settings>Bluetooth>JVC (or whatever you named it) and uncheck the Stereo sound and viola it should work unless you are not using A2DP >.> . I think it's either directing all sound to your bt device or trying to send sound to it but failing.
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NP. 1 more thing. What do you mean all audio is lost? Do you mean that the auido goes through the bt device? Or just that there is no audio coming from either at all. If that's the case, then all you might have to do is go to Comm Manager>Settings>Bluetooth>JVC (or whatever you named it) and uncheck the Stereo sound and viola it should work unless you are not using A2DP >.> . I think it's either directing all sound to your bt device or trying to send sound to it but failing.
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The issue is there is no audio coming from either the phone or the Bluetooth device. I hear the Bluetooth device disconnect, and its display shows that it has also.
I see no 'Stereo' option to untick for the JVC in its Bluetooth settings, only Hands-free and Wireless Stereo (already unticked).
No progress
Okay, this is seriously getting me down now It all sounded so promising. I have tried the following:
Flashed Niki Radio 1.58.21.23
Tried using Bluetooth Toggle - it seemed to work once when I turned BT off before connecting, but after a reboot the problem is back
Tried a HFP extension PM'd to me (thanks anyway - didn't help)
Made sure Bluetooth Stereo is unticked in the JVC's settings on the phone
I am not sure if the problem is worse when taking a call as TomTom is running.
Here is an interesting development which might help someone narrow down the cause:
I make a few calls, and as always audio is lost, even for phone calls sometimes.
Touchtones on the keypad are the only sound that the phone continues to emit itself. Everything else (TomTom, ringtones, etc.) is dead.
I then go into the JVC's A2DP mode and 'Connect'. The icon appears on the mobile's title bar, and I can hear phone audio through the car stereo.
I 'Disconnect' and the phone's audio is still lost.
What this tells us is that the phone is putting out sound, just not through the speaker.
If someone can write something that will reset the speaker driver after a call, my offer for $100 still stands.
Just to update this, the issue still exists with a clean install of HTC's new 2-May-08 WM6.1 ROM from their website. To***rs!
CJSnet,
Since we got the similar setup w/ exact the same issue (Att Tilt w/ JVC BT-1), I think the problem is basically Kaiser does not switch back to A2DP profile properly after headset profile from phone call. The same issue happens to my Sony HBH DS-220 stereo headset too.
I tried my Eten M600 w/ JVC BT-1 and does not see this problem
Anyone tried this hands free device? I am interested in its use as a hands free calling device as well as the ability to play mp3's via bluetooth to an fm transmitter...
I am interested to know how it works with the X1
djglenn1337 said:
Anyone tried this hands free device? I am interested in its use as a hands free calling device as well as the ability to play mp3's via bluetooth to an fm transmitter...
I am interested to know how it works with the X1
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why waste money on bad quality FM transmitter instead of BT? Get a header that support bluetooth (e.g. JVC BT-1, some models from Sony and others). If you header has aux input and you want to do it in a cheaper way, get an Sony DS-205 and connect that to yr header.
jackleung is rigth.
I have the sp 700 and the FM is bad,but if you need a good portable carkit it's ok.
The sound of the internal speaker and the mic is good.
Still one minus, i had to install this http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-zoa2dp.html
to get it to pair rigth.
Only got the systeemsound over bt but after installing the cab everything works great.
No more bt trouble
This could be a alternertive http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/XW-EN/Consumer-Products-and-Services/Mobile+Phone+Accessories/Car-Accessories/Speakerphones/T505-Bluetooth-In-Car-Speakerphone-with-Digital-FM-Transmitter-XW-EN
I don't now about the fm and bt kwality,but as far as i know it suports multipairing and thats a big + if you have more than 1 device
talbas said:
jackleung is rigth.
I have the sp 700 and the FM is bad,but if you need a good portable carkit it's ok.
The sound of the internal speaker and the mic is good.
Still one minus, i had to install this http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-zoa2dp.html
to get it to pair rigth.
Only got the systeemsound over bt but after installing the cab everything works great.
No more bt trouble
This could be a alternertive http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/XW-EN/Consumer-Products-and-Services/Mobile+Phone+Accessories/Car-Accessories/Speakerphones/T505-Bluetooth-In-Car-Speakerphone-with-Digital-FM-Transmitter-XW-EN
I don't now about the fm and bt kwality,but as far as i know it suports multipairing and thats a big + if you have more than 1 device
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Would there be a way for you to record a sample of the stream through FM transmitter? I'd REALLY appreciate that as i'm looking to buy the SP700 as well. The only thing that's holding me back is your comment.
I really want the FM option and this one was the only one that i could find that had a nice design and good features.
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Would there be a way for you to record a sample of the stream through FM transmitter? I'd REALLY appreciate that as i'm looking to buy the SP700 as well. The only thing that's holding me back is your comment.
I really want the FM option and this one was the only one that i could find that had a nice design and good features.
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I try ,give me a day or 2 to do this.
soundfiles
First of all ,this is very subjective.
I don't have a kwality recording device. This is recorded with a mp3 player.
It's done in my car(no engine) and it's hard to hear the high tones and the static of the fm transmission.
So don't kill me if you do something and regret it later.
I have recorded speech and music. For reference i have 1 empty soundfile from the recording device so you can hear the static from it.
I stand to what i sayed before ,the sp700 is a great handfree device for calls and navigation,but the fm performances for music is on it's best tolerable but not good enough.
If you don't have 1 and you want it for the music...., i wouldn't buy it,for handfree , great!!!!!!!!!!!, even over fm
alternertive http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/XW-EN/Consumer-Products-and-Services/Mobile+Phone+Accessories/Car-Accessories/Speakerphones/T505-Bluetooth-In-Car-Speakerphone-with-Digital-FM-Transmitter-XW-EN
Kudos. I actually got mine last week and love them so far. I'm having a problem in that after the first pairing when it automatically connects, music will play through the device, not the SP700s, i have to sometimes repair to get it going or do some weird stuff. I've tried A2DP toggle with no success and it seems like a lot have this issue, find a remedy for this?
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Kudos. I actually got mine last week and love them so far. I'm having a problem in that after the first pairing when it automatically connects, music will play through the device, not the SP700s, i have to sometimes repair to get it going or do some weird stuff. I've tried A2DP toggle with no success and it seems like a lot have this issue, find a remedy for this?
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This cab solved all my BT problems.
Read about it hire:http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-zoa2dp.html
Just installed it (didn't find an icon so i'm guessing it runs in the background). I deleted my connection with the SP700 and i'll check how it works out tomorrow (after the first pair).
Is this only good for WM 5? Does this do anything for WM 6.1 phones which supports A2DP?
I've been using A2DP toggle with success, but if this works with the toggling it sounds great.
Update: loaded it on my Tilt. Works GREAT!! Switches between BT headset & SP700 with any toggling or pairing
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Is this only good for WM 5? Does this do anything for WM 6.1 phones which supports A2DP?
I've been using A2DP toggle with success, but if this works with the toggling it sounds great.
Update: loaded it on my Tilt. Works GREAT!! Switches between BT headset & SP700 with any toggling or pairing
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Nice to see you here and to have found the thread
@ Talbas, it's working wonders. Thanks a lot, this is a life-saver for those who own the SP700s.
kareem9nba said:
Nice to see you here and to have found the thread
@ Talbas, it's working wonders. Thanks a lot, this is a life-saver for those who own the SP700s.
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thank you,
you make me
@kareem9nba You use ATT. Have you experienced any problems with your Internet connection after installing zoA2dp? It seems that after I use BT and access the Internet, I get a 403 Forbidden error on my screen. I've tried enabling and disabling the hidden proxy, but I can only get access restored with a soft reset. Anyone else experience this problem?
Another minor glitch. I use Resco radio to stream music through the SP700, after a phone call, the radio has to be manually enabled again.
Don't have a data package so i wouldn't be able to try that. I don't use Resco Radio either. When you uninstall it, does your internet work again?
kareem9nba said:
Don't have a data package so i wouldn't be able to try that. I don't use Resco Radio either. When you uninstall it, does your internet work again?
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I can't seem to find what is causing the problem. If the problem gets worse, I'm sure a Hard Reset will fix it.
I will say that if I keep the power cord plugged in it works like a antenna and actually will get a better signal. I love how the SP700 works with calls, transmitting and music (when you get it to work). As of now when I want to play music over the SP700 I need to turn off the wireless stereo on the phone and then re-enable it for it to work. Or just re-pair the unit to my phone. A lot of people are say to use zoa2dp to fix this. While it does work and allows music to be played with no re-pairing necessary, the sound quality seems to be greatly reduce. Is anyone having the same issue? Is there a ROM for the Tilt that can fix this bug?
cpedroson said:
As of now when I want to play music over the SP700 I need to turn off the wireless stereo on the phone and then re-enable it for it to work. Or just re-pair the unit to my phone. A lot of people are say to use zoa2dp to fix this. While it does work and allows music to be played with no re-pairing necessary, the sound quality seems to be greatly reduce. Is anyone having the same issue?
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I have a Fuze and the same problem. It sucks. zoa2dp is automatic, but the sound quality is degraded a bit. To maintain the sound quality I have to manually turning off and then on the Wireless Stereo setting. Another option is you can install the a2dptoggle app. It seems to do the same thing but in 1 click.
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=freeware
I'm using a T-Mobile Touch Pro2 which includes the Broadcom Bluetooth stack and Microsoft Voice Command 1.6.2105. The problem is the Bluetooth software is not compatible with Voice Command and I hate it.
Voice Command is unable to announce TTS events via any bluetooth headset despite having the option for that turned on. Also, activating Voice Command via a bluetooth headset button is either very slow, or unstable (doesn't work sometimes).
Has anyone been able to create a Rhodium ROM that uses the normal Microsoft Bluetooth stack, which has been known to actually work with 3rd party programs?
I had this issue and moved to NRG's Genesis 6.5 rom. everything works fine.
I have not seen a 6.1 rom that works tho.
My TMoUS TP2 works perfect with my Motorola S9's when using the MSVC that came on the stock ROM.
S
adamz said:
I'm using a T-Mobile Touch Pro2 which includes the Broadcom Bluetooth stack and Microsoft Voice Command 1.6.2105. The problem is the Bluetooth software is not compatible with Voice Command and I hate it.
Has anyone been able to create a Rhodium ROM that uses the normal Microsoft Bluetooth stack, which has been known to actually work with 3rd party programs?
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Finally someone who has the same problems as I have.
There are also other annoying side effects of this Broadcom stack:
- As we all know the stereo output is nothing compared to for example an IPhone. Therefore I always used WOW SRS as a sound mixer which closed the gap at least to some degree on my Kaiser.
But now with the TP2 and its Broadcom stack as soon as WOW SRS is installed (I know about the different settings and driver versions to get it working, so this is not the cause) the BT stack is only connecting the hands free profile after this and the stereo profile is simply not working any more.
With the old MS stack this was not a problem.
So I'm back to the old crippled stereo output again
- One could imagine using the integrated HTC sound mixer/booster, but here another even more annoying thing comes into play:
The internal sound mixer (and also the FM radio by the way) are not working with BT at all!!!
Both are only working with a cabled headset and I found no way of getting the FM radio sound to the BT headset or using the sound mixer function on BT.
Together with the non working voice command thing this whole BT integration is so dilettantish that I can hardly believe HTC is selling it as a "professional smartphone".
If someone has any workaround for the above things I would highly appreciate it.
And of course if one of the chefs could implement the old MS BT stack in a cooked ROM this would also be a great thing, but I have not seen one so far.
But even if, I can only hope that some HTC people are reading these comments and that HTC is putting some more professionality into this issue and will soon get it together as a working whole and not as this amateurish implemantation it is currently
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Finally someone who has the same problems as I have.
There are also other annoying side effects of this Broadcom stack:
- As we all know the stereo output is nothing compared to for example an IPhone. Therefore I always used WOW SRS as a sound mixer which closed the gap at least to some degree on my Kaiser.
But now with the TP2 and its Broadcom stack as soon as WOW SRS is installed (I know about the different settings and driver versions to get it working, so this is not the cause) the BT stack is only connecting the hands free profile after this and the stereo profile is simply not working any more.
With the old MS stack this was not a problem.
So I'm back to the old crippled stereo output again
- One could imagine using the integrated HTC sound mixer/booster, but here another even more annoying thing comes into play:
The internal sound mixer (and also the FM radio by the way) are not working with BT at all!!!
Both are only working with a cabled headset and I found no way of getting the FM radio sound to the BT headset or using the sound mixer function on BT.
Together with the non working voice command thing this whole BT integration is so dilettantish that I can hardly believe HTC is selling it as a "professional smartphone".
If someone has any workaround for the above things I would highly appreciate it.
And of course if one of the chefs could implement the old MS BT stack in a cooked ROM this would also be a great thing, but I have not seen one so far.
But even if, I can only hope that some HTC people are reading these comments and that HTC is putting some more professionality into this issue and will soon get it together as a working whole and not as this amateurish implemantation it is currently
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I to am having bluetooth problems. I have a sprint tp2. on the opposite end of you i like to use my stereo bt with my pioneer bt deck. with the tp1 i had no problems but now i cant end the call from the deck anymore, it lags when picking up the call, and some other minor bugs. the sound quality is still good.
p-slim said:
I to am having bluetooth problems. I have a sprint tp2. on the opposite end of you i like to use my stereo bt with my pioneer bt deck. with the tp1 i had no problems but now i cant end the call from the deck anymore, it lags when picking up the call, and some other minor bugs. the sound quality is still good.
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What Pioneer headunit/Pioneer bluetooth unit are you using?
I have an AVIC-D3 with the Pioneer CD-BTB200 module for bluetooth. I have zero issues making it connect with the CD-BTB200 module. I can make calls, receive calls, play bluetooth stereo, etc. The ONLY issue that I have is that when the phone rings on an incoming call, I only hear the ring through my phone's speaker, not the speakers in my SUV. This was not an issue with the M$ Bluetooth stack, however. Go figure. If I can figure out how to make the phone sounds play through my speakers (yes, I have the send notifications/sounds box checked in the advanced bluetooth properties), everything will work 100%.
I wanted to do this, for my own as well. I think the problem we're facing is... drivers. The phone has a slightly different bt/wifi/radio module, therefore required the broadcom drivers. I'll look into making it work with the MS BT stack though... although I'm not too optimistic.
The worst thing in my opinion is the described fact that the internal FM radio and the equalizer/booster can not be used with any hooked up BT device.
Therefore listening to FM radio with BT headphones is simply not possible.
By the way I think this was also an issue in older models, so I don't think that this is a newly introduced thing with the TP2 and the Broadcom stack.
Does anyone of you guys see a solution for sending the FM radio output to the BT channel?
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Does anyone of you guys see a solution for sending the FM radio output to the BT channel?
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No, because the cable of the wired headset is used as antenna. even if you manage to fool the radio application to start with the wired headset not connected you won't hear anything but noise.
adamz said:
I'm using a T-Mobile Touch Pro2 which includes the Broadcom Bluetooth stack and Microsoft Voice Command 1.6.2105. The problem is the Bluetooth software is not compatible with Voice Command and I hate it.
Voice Command is unable to announce TTS events via any bluetooth headset despite having the option for that turned on. Also, activating Voice Command via a bluetooth headset button is either very slow, or unstable (doesn't work sometimes).
Has anyone been able to create a Rhodium ROM that uses the normal Microsoft Bluetooth stack, which has been known to actually work with 3rd party programs?
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asango said:
Finally someone who has the same problems as I have.
There are also other annoying side effects of this Broadcom stack:
- As we all know the stereo output is nothing compared to for example an IPhone. Therefore I always used WOW SRS as a sound mixer which closed the gap at least to some degree on my Kaiser.
But now with the TP2 and its Broadcom stack as soon as WOW SRS is installed (I know about the different settings and driver versions to get it working, so this is not the cause) the BT stack is only connecting the hands free profile after this and the stereo profile is simply not working any more.
With the old MS stack this was not a problem.
So I'm back to the old crippled stereo output again
- One could imagine using the integrated HTC sound mixer/booster, but here another even more annoying thing comes into play:
The internal sound mixer (and also the FM radio by the way) are not working with BT at all!!!
Both are only working with a cabled headset and I found no way of getting the FM radio sound to the BT headset or using the sound mixer function on BT.
Together with the non working voice command thing this whole BT integration is so dilettantish that I can hardly believe HTC is selling it as a "professional smartphone".
If someone has any workaround for the above things I would highly appreciate it.
And of course if one of the chefs could implement the old MS BT stack in a cooked ROM this would also be a great thing, but I have not seen one so far.
But even if, I can only hope that some HTC people are reading these comments and that HTC is putting some more professionality into this issue and will soon get it together as a working whole and not as this amateurish implemantation it is currently
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p-slim said:
I to am having bluetooth problems. I have a sprint tp2. on the opposite end of you i like to use my stereo bt with my pioneer bt deck. with the tp1 i had no problems but now i cant end the call from the deck anymore, it lags when picking up the call, and some other minor bugs. the sound quality is still good.
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ruinertt said:
What Pioneer headunit/Pioneer bluetooth unit are you using?
I have an AVIC-D3 with the Pioneer CD-BTB200 module for bluetooth. I have zero issues making it connect with the CD-BTB200 module. I can make calls, receive calls, play bluetooth stereo, etc. The ONLY issue that I have is that when the phone rings on an incoming call, I only hear the ring through my phone's speaker, not the speakers in my SUV. This was not an issue with the M$ Bluetooth stack, however. Go figure. If I can figure out how to make the phone sounds play through my speakers (yes, I have the send notifications/sounds box checked in the advanced bluetooth properties), everything will work 100%.
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I am using a JVC deck and it connects great. Sound quality is a bit better than from my Wing; my only problem is that when I disconnect from the call it takes my TP2 2-3 minutes to show that the call is actually ended, it runs slower than molases like I have 50 programs running and all trying to access the internet and downloading large files. After the 2-3 minutes the phone has returned to normal like nothing was wrong. I am thinking of flashing to one of the good looking 6.5 roms that our wonderful chefs have cooked up for us, but I cant decide which one to try first!
asango said:
The worst thing in my opinion is the described fact that the internal FM radio and the equalizer/booster can not be used with any hooked up BT device.
Therefore listening to FM radio with BT headphones is simply not possible.
By the way I think this was also an issue in older models, so I don't think that this is a newly introduced thing with the TP2 and the Broadcom stack.
Does anyone of you guys see a solution for sending the FM radio output to the BT channel?
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In the stock tmobile tp2 there is a app in the windows folder labeled btfm.exe I started it up but I I was only able to get about 15 seconds of audio play using my h500 motorola headset....no bt headphones to test out.
mastermarv said:
No, because the cable of the wired headset is used as antenna. even if you manage to fool the radio application to start with the wired headset not connected you won't hear anything but noise.
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The point is that I want to be able to use the wireless BT headset with all the audio sources on the device. This would only be logical.
Having to use the wired headset as antenna is of course the other annoying thing in the hardware design of this device (since I think HTC should also have been able to get FM reception with a built in antenna or even the phone frame. Don't know why they have not done this in order to at least allow using the radio in situations where one has got no headset at hand, especially with the TP2, which has got no 3.5mm jack)
But apart from this issue still the only consequent thing would be to be able to use all audio sources with the attached wireless headset. That's what is it for...
pimppoet said:
In the stock tmobile tp2 there is a app in the windows folder labeled btfm.exe I started it up but I I was only able to get about 15 seconds of audio play using my h500 motorola headset....no bt headphones to test out.
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Yes, this first seemed to be an option to me also, but on my TP2 if I open the btfm.exe I get absolutely no sound, no matter which speaker setting in the software. Not on the wired headphone, not on the internal speaker and also not on the BT headset, even though it is successfully attached with the stereo profile.
Have tried this with several ROMs, always the same problem: No output at all.
And on some it even won't start (error message Unable to extract skin template)
But since HTC has included this exe in the ROM but has not put a link in the start menu I think they know about this lack of functionality, but have not solved it.
Does anyone know more about btfm.exe and a way to get it working?
Hi Guys,
That is my first real complaint I have about the Touch Pro2 ! All is fine but the Widcomm stck it a bummer, my JetwareMobile Extension is now rendered useless, no more callername in my Bluetooth headset and lost some funtionality compared to befor too, but I have to be fair I gained some too, but if I need thoose that is a different topic.
Chris
Cyberon speed voice dial
Please need help to activate CSVD over BT in TP2
gompf said:
Hi Guys,
That is my first real complaint I have about the Touch Pro2 ! All is fine but the Widcomm stck it a bummer, my JetwareMobile Extension is now rendered useless, no more callername in my Bluetooth headset and lost some funtionality compared to befor too, but I have to be fair I gained some too, but if I need thoose that is a different topic.
Chris
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I feel your pain. I miss having JetwareMobile to help interface with my car's head unit.
adamz said:
I'm using a T-Mobile Touch Pro2 which includes the Broadcom Bluetooth stack and Microsoft Voice Command 1.6.2105. The problem is the Bluetooth software is not compatible with Voice Command and I hate it.
Voice Command is unable to announce TTS events via any bluetooth headset despite having the option for that turned on. Also, activating Voice Command via a bluetooth headset button is either very slow, or unstable (doesn't work sometimes).
Has anyone been able to create a Rhodium ROM that uses the normal Microsoft Bluetooth stack, which has been known to actually work with 3rd party programs?
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Check out this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562161
it appears to do what you want.
Yes, and also the latest of NRGZ28's ROMs does have the BT triggered VC:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
Seems like realls HTC has managed to get back this functionality into the latest BT stack version, even though there seem to be some bugs still in conjunction with the current V 1.6.21040 as I wrote here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4578993&postcount=30
Hi everyone, I have a similar question related to the Microsoft bluetooth stack. I have an ATT Tilt2 (stock ROM still) and have downloaded the Office 2010 beta programs from the Marketplace. A new feature (at least I think it is new) is the Presentation Companion for PowerPoint which allows you to control a PowerPoint presentation using your phone.
When I try to set up the Presentation Companion, however, it gives me a message about not being able to find any bluetooth devices. The instructions from Microsoft say that you must have the Microsoft bluetooth stack installed on the phone and the computer you want to control to get this functionality. I never get to the point of connecting to my computer so I figure it must be the phone.
Has anyone else had similar issues or tried the Presentation Companion? I tried applying the .CAB update listed earlier in this thread but it did not help.
On a side note, with the stock bluetooth stack I have had no issues connecting to my Pioneer headunit in my car for hands-free and A2DP stereo streaming. I have not tried to use the controls from my radio to control the playback, so I'n not sure if that works. The headunit I'm using is the DEH-710BT.
Thanks!
monkeyboy0076 said:
On a side note, with the stock bluetooth stack I have had no issues connecting to my Pioneer headunit in my car for hands-free and A2DP stereo streaming. I have not tried to use the controls from my radio to control the playback, so I'n not sure if that works. The headunit I'm using is the DEH-710BT.
Thanks!
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I have a Pioneer AVIC-D3 and have no issues with playback (or the controls) using the BT stack in the Rhodium. This, of course, was tested with Windows Media Player. I can do forward, reverse, pause, stop, play, etc.
This is my first, and only a minor, contribution to the forum; I've been a feeder up till now.
I bought a cheap bluetooth headset for my HD2 for use with my motorcycle satnav and also my HD2 - not that I want to take calls whilst I'm riding, but playing music would be a possibility. It was similar to this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bluetooth-V2-...e_Phones_Bluetooth_Acc_ET?hash=item3efab16de4
I paired it with my satnav and could hear voice commands and music as expected. I then paired it with my HD2 and could only get calls, no music playing!!!
I tried looking for settings on the HD2 but nothing made any difference so I decided to look in the registry. After a while exploring I eventually found:
HKLM/software/widcomm/BTconfig/devices/
There were three devices paired (HD2, satnav and my car) so next I had to work out which one. I found that if you look at the nickname for each one, it's decoded into english by the Reg Editor (I use CERegistryEditor). Using trial and error I found that changing the setting "Hideconnections" from "0" to "1" did the trick. I can now hear music through the headset!!!
Well chuffed with myself!!!
PS Perform a soft reset after changing it to lock it in otherwise it resets to "0" after a disconnect.
OOPS! because I was looking for Bluetooth stuff I posted this in the wrong area, sorry!!! Maybe a moderator can correct please?
How bizarre it works by default for me......well done on the find though
Thanks...
It doesnt work for me, im using samsung mono bluetooth. I've tried many methods like btaudio bttoggle.... any help, thanks
All I can suggest is that - like I did - compare settings with something that does work. Maybe because you have a mono headset (mine is stereo) it's not capable of receiving music?
Hi
I could play music and receive system sound in my Jabra mono bluetooth earpiece if, in HD2, I go bluetooth->advance->Audio and check "play system sounds on remote hands-free device". However, after a phone call, the music and sound will be routed back to the phone speaker, though the earpiece is still connected (you can still make/receive phone calls through the earpiece).
The music and sound can only be routed to the earpiece again after a soft reset.
The other observation is that, if there is pause in between music or sound for a period of about 12 to 15 seconds, the HD2 will "suspend" the bluetooth transmission (beep in the earpiece) and resuming the music will cause the bluetooth transmission to be re-established (beep sound in earpiece). This is causing skipping of the first 1 to 2 second of the music / sound.
Have installed BTaudio V1.0. It is working on my HD2 and will keep the transmission constant and no skipping problem.
However, also needing soft reset after phone call.
Does any one has similar experience ? Is this earpiece/ head set related of is this HD2 related issue ?
No one has simialr experience ? Is there a thread on bluetooth related registry tweaks, I have been searching for it but don't seems to be able to find one. Any help will be appreciated.
anzudragon said:
It doesnt work for me, im using samsung mono bluetooth. I've tried many methods like btaudio bttoggle.... any help, thanks
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+1 as well
I have a Samsung WEP420 mono bluetooth and no success either.
Armes said:
I tried looking for settings on the HD2 but nothing made any difference so I decided to look in the registry. After a while exploring I eventually found:
HKLM/software/widcomm/BTconfig/devices/
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I don't have that reg key at all! I have a dutch hd2 running stock 1.66. When I try to connect to a parrot party bluetooth stereo box this (most of the time) doesn't work. Once or twice I established a working connection but after trying multiple times with no luck I decided to find a fix for my problem. Now I try to edit my reg with this and it's not there!?
i paired the hd2 with the car kit parrot ck3100... leaving apart that it doesn't connect always... although i have checked in settings to play all phone sounds through BT it doesn't...
i think it's a BT problem of the hd2, or maybe all WM phones... 'cause ițve had issues like this before...
P.S. once it played the music thorugh the car kit... just like this...