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Extended ROM - Some CABs don't Execute

I'm trying to customize a few Extended ROMs here and I'm running into some stubborn CABs. When installed manually, everything works fine. No warnings, no errors. Just click the CAB, let it do its thing, then click OK.
Put these same ROMs into an Extended ROM and hilarity ensues. Some will work, others will not and I don't know why. Any suggestions on what I might be missing will be greatly appreciated.

Quick question?
Are the CAB's signed, if not are you installing the 'signed' unsign CAB 1st .

Edit: Thinking more about this (and realising that the 1st thing you do is disable signing in your ROM's ) can you provide a little more info about the CAB's (maybe an offending CAB if the content is not private?).
I managed to replicate this issue with a CAB that had a warm reset as part of it's install process (seems to bork the autoexec batch process) and I have had a similar issue with a CAB that just contained some simple OMA in the _setup.xml.
John

yes, that's the point. But how to make any Unsigned CABs become Signed?

huangyz said:
yes, that's the point. But how to make any Unsigned CABs become Signed?
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Without wanting to sounds facetious you sign them ;-)
You would use a private key to generate an Authenticode signature for the CAB (and maybe the apps inside if you need to) however you would still need to install the ROOT certificate into the code stores on your device. Or get your app signed by a 3rd party with a certificate that has it's ROOT already on the device (MS's MobileToMarket and things like that take care of this for ISV's that need it).
Once you have the ROOT cert on the device in the correct store signing is trivial, you either use SignTool.exe from many of the MS SDK’s or just use the GUI options if Visual Studio is your poison. All you need is an export of the PKF (Private key) and the password to the certificate.
In enterprises one of the 1st things people often do before giving Windows Mobile devices out to users is to install a ROOT certificate for the enterprise onto the device in both the code and transmission stores. This means from then on you can sign in-house apps and CAB’s and they behave as signed commercial apps and you can use features like internal signed SSL for ActiveSync etc. etc.
Don’t forget you can also do away with a lot of this by installing the HTC signed “Disable Certificates” CAB 1st and then the signatures are not checked on subsequent CAB’s, EXE’s or anything code related for that matter.

djwillis said:
huangyz said:
yes, that's the point. But how to make any Unsigned CABs become Signed?
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Without wanting to sounds facetious you sign them ;-)
You would use a private key to generate an Authenticode signature for the CAB (and maybe the apps inside if you need to) however you would still need to install the ROOT certificate into the code stores on your device. Or get your app signed by a 3rd party with a certificate that has it's ROOT already on the device (MS's MobileToMarket and things like that take care of this for ISV's that need it).
Once you have the ROOT cert on the device in the correct store signing is trivial, you either use SignTool.exe from many of the MS SDK’s or just use the GUI options if Visual Studio is your poison. All you need is an export of the PKF (Private key) and the password to the certificate.
In enterprises one of the 1st things people often do before giving Windows Mobile devices out to users is to install a ROOT certificate for the enterprise onto the device in both the code and transmission stores. This means from then on you can sign in-house apps and CAB’s and they behave as signed commercial apps and you can use features like internal signed SSL for ActiveSync etc. etc.
Don’t forget you can also do away with a lot of this by installing the HTC signed “Disable Certificates” CAB 1st and then the signatures are not checked on subsequent CAB’s, EXE’s or anything code related for that matter.
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I am NOT a software developer so, most of your opinions sound enigmatic to me except that the last one: put the HTC signed "Disable Cert" in the 1st place of the ext-rom config.txt.
Thanks very much! I'll try later on.

gamescan said:
I'm trying to customize a few Extended ROMs here and I'm running into some stubborn CABs. When installed manually, everything works fine. No warnings, no errors. Just click the CAB, let it do its thing, then click OK.
Put these same ROMs into an Extended ROM and hilarity ensues. Some will work, others will not and I don't know why. Any suggestions on what I might be missing will be greatly appreciated.
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most problably you forgot to set some cab file to read-only before saving the extende-rom.check the cabs atrebutes and the config.text file while inside de program that you are using to edit the extended-rom.its not because they are not signed as long you got the cert .cab set to be the first to be installed.also cab files that require user input will not work.this is from experience, as posted above.

huangyz said:
I am NOT a software developer so, most of your opinions sound enigmatic to me except that the last one: put the HTC signed "Disable Cert" in the 1st place of the ext-rom config.txt.
Thanks very much! I'll try later on.
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So, where did you found the signed Disable_Cert.cab?

faria said:
most problably you forgot to set some cab file to read-only before saving the extende-rom.check the cabs atrebutes and the config.text file while inside de program that you are using to edit the extended-rom.its not because they are not signed as long you got the cert .cab set to be the first to be installed.also cab files that require user input will not work.this is from experience, as posted above.
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Sorry to ping an old thread - flogging to proceed immedietly after...
Being that this is a windows device, isn't there a flag that can be passed when executing the cab - like you can on a windows installer application? Similar to setup.exe -q or whatever you're trying to do. Some flags set the answers to yes, admin mode... you get the picture. Does the cab installer engine allow similar flags to get passed with the cab execution command?

In PPC, it calls wceload.exe to install and uninstall a cab.
As shown in http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms926281.aspx , the only possible argument is to ask or not ask for destination, but no quiet mode.
How can you call wceload.exe manually at ExtROM installation may be a question.

Delete Unwanted Programs?

I am trying to delete programs that I believe I don't need. I use WiFi and do not have T-Mobile Internet Plan. Would I create a problem if I delete the following:
DAT MailTrigger
OZ Communications OM IM
T-Mobile HotSpot Login Utility
Thank you!

Are these in your Remove Program list? If not, you may not able to 'uninstall' these nicely.
What I suggest is that you may want to have a look on your Ext ROM, get all the CABS file there. Use some CAB managers, to open each of them and see where they have places the files and delete them. If things goes wrong, you can always have it installed since you already know which CAB is responsible for which.
Or, if you can affort a hard reset, reset your device and do not allow the Ext ROM to be install (e.g. soft reset your device after the security setup). Then, go into your Ext ROM and install the CAB files one by one, to identify the CAB files that you do/do-not want to install. This will give you a clean installation.

hanmin said:
Are these in your Remove Program list? If not, you may not able to 'uninstall' these nicely.
Ys, these are in my Remove Program list. They are loaded apps/software that is part of the T-Mobile total package. I did not load these using a CAB file. I guess I will just take a chance and remove them and see what happens. Like you said below I can do a Hard Rest if I need to. Thanks for your input. I do appreciate it.
TonynMI
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I remove those apps if I remember too and since I've never had a need for their functionality, I've never had a problem because of uninstalling them. All you really gain, however, is a tiny bit of memory...which is probably why I usually don't remember to remove them.

Just completed removing the following:
Memory Available Before/After Removal: (Saved
DAT MailTrigger 3450/3624 (174)
OZ Communications OM IM 3624/3629 (5)
T-Mobile HotSpot Login Utility 3629/4052 (423)
Restart after removal and no problems.
Thanks for your responses.

Please help a new Kaiser owner, Mac-based

Hello all. Just got my phone on Orange and I like it. I have been a Mac-user for the past 12 years so I am used to not tweaking my gadgets. Can someone explain how I install the CABs onto my Kaiser via either my G5 iMac or my intel Macbook. Many thanks

do'h not very sure, but you might want to try the missing sync, grab the latest version, it now supports win5 and 6. basically that's what you need to synch your mac and PDA, but not very sure if you can install 'em through it though

Now how do I find the installed CAB
OK I have downloaded a CAB onto the Kaiser via Missing Sync. (HTC album mui 0419.cab) So how do I now find it on the phone and activate it or any other CAB?
Thanks again

not that hard
I get that you're new, I am too, but try to figure this stuff out by yourself.
Bluetooth should work for getting files onto the phone (my docs/bluetooth)
When you sync to the phone, the PC version is that you see the phone on the schema/folder tree and can choose where to put it.
When you find the cab file, opening it will install it. Generally try to put system specific things on main memory and things like games on a storage card.
Look at some must have threads to find programs that you like and after you figure it out try a hard reset and reinstall things. That will let you keep a stable device.
As for ROMS, I would be careful of even thinking about flashing on a mac unless you find a thread telling you how to do it, you don't want a bricked device.
Remember to search the forums - it's worth your time.

Just mount the kaiser with missing sync. After that, drag and drop the file to a location that you can remember. Once you do that, just go to the file explorer in the kaiser, locate the file, and click. You should be all set.

what about a non-cab files? with an .exe extension, will it be installable trough missing sync?

from what I can remember, Missing Sync is really broken at the moment. (under 10.5).
To install a cab, you just use the tab next to syncronize, what is it, the file tab or somehing?
if it's a .cab, it will be loaded automatically. But make sure there's no spaces/irregular characters on the .cab, otherwise, it won't load the installation, and possibly, the file will not be uploaded at all. I think this is a missing sync bug.

Nope, you're going to have to pull the .CAB out of the .EXE file
jakontil said:
what about a non-cab files? with an .exe extension, will it be installable trough missing sync?
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chenga said:
Nope, you're going to have to pull the .CAB out of the .EXE file
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hi chenga, mind to point me how to do so? because i am going to lose my XP system very soon

Need some help:

1. I have installed Opera Mobile on my TyTN II and it works ok, but if I go to check my mail and wants to open a link in the mail it gives me the error:
The file OperaLaunch can't be opened. It's either not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of the components are not found. If the problem continues you can try to reinstall or reinstall the file.
How do I solve that, without reinstalling Opera, or can I make it use IE instead.
2. Is there a program that can remember pin-codes, cause it's not in there as standard program?
3. How do I make a link from perhaps an .exe file? It's no problem to copy the existing links and edit them, but it has a number in front, and I can't see which number are the latest.
4. Is it possible somehow to use activesync over wifi, or do I need another program, and in that case which one?
Thanks for the help in advance and sorry if it has been answered before.

1. Search for the Opera as default browser post & pay attention to Menneysyys or see his bible here: http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1828&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
2. Try roboform for PPC
3. You can copy it then paste as shorcut using Reco or other file explorer or even dewsktop. The # you see is a reference to the number of characters in the command, i.e. 46# "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\File Explorer.exe"
4. Bluetooth is possible with a few hacks & the right version of A/S.

Thanks for the answers
I'll try when I get home, and return if there are any more answers

Microsoft Update KB958639 causes reboot loop

last thing i attempted to install via ActiveSync is the Microsoft WM Update - KB958639
now my kaiser is rebooting after i enter the startup pin password.
it doesnt seem to have installed the update. it loads the today screen with manila 2d and then begins the cab install process but then resets. it keeps doing this.
i can still sync with outlook/active sync, access files via the PC, etc. if i dont put in my password on the phone to unlock it...
i tried to delete the update from the \windows\appmgr directory but it tells me access denied.
any other way i can remove these files or stop the installer from loading during the next reset? i'm lookin into a reg location that it might have startup entries for this sorta thing...
ok nm, i solved it. the ActiveSync add/remove programs tool allowed me to uncheck the app from install. was weird, cus before it was already uncheck.... oh well all is well