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Need help choosing a graphics card

IM helping my friend build a computer... I built one in a few years and I planning on getting this build:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.328587
But its saying I need a discrete graphics card... Can some explain exactly what that is? Does that just mean it needs to be small?
Can some help me choose a good one for around $150? From new egg or zipzoomfly or another trusted known website with a good return policy.
Im looking for something that with play blu-rays and some gaming like gta 4.
Thanks a lot for your help.

mmafighter077 said:
IM helping my friend build a computer... I built one in a few years and I planning on getting this build:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.328587
But its saying I need a discrete graphics card... Can some explain exactly what that is? Does that just mean it needs to be small?
Can some help me choose a good one for around $150? From new egg or zipzoomfly or another trusted known website with a good return policy.
Im looking for something that with play blu-rays and some gaming like gta 4.
Thanks a lot for your help.
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You are right it means something low profile without huge fans, thats where you will have the issue when it comes to the line between good quality in games and a card that will fit!!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._profile_graphics_card-_-14-129-144-_-Product
thats the profile i would assume it means instad of the cards that take up to slots on size.. and have leaf blowers...
edit: also that card will decode the video on the gpu instead of straining the cpu...games should run ok at medium resolutions.. posted the wrong card at first..

Gaming -- get a Geforce GTS 250 -- pretty small and has lots of variations -- like this low profile : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187098&cm_re=gts_250-_-14-187-098-_-Product
Little gaming -- Geforce GT 240 - has some passive cooling options (passive = no fans) -- like this :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500138&cm_re=gt_240-_-14-500-138-_-Product
But to be real -- If you get a low profile Graphic card without a fan -- then you cant do much gaming on it, cause it overheats more, therefore you cant put a big load on it and overclock it!!
So my suggestion would be - get a decent GTS 250, with a nice cooler, and then just make the fan spin slower!! :d - set the fan speed to about 60 - 70% and you wont be able to hear the fan! -- just go in newegg and search for "GTS 250" - check those which have 1gb of memory and a nice cooler (not those with plastic around - only metal)
Kristaps

got an ati 5770 and it's pretty good support dx11 but doubt my other system could keep up with the more fancy dx11 stuff but it was not that expensive

Thanks a lot guys. All this help is great. Once I built my computer I didn't keep up with all the latest and greatest so I playing catch up right now.
You guys think this one would work?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125285
Thanks

mmafighter077 said:
Thanks a lot guys. All this help is great. Once I built my computer I didn't keep up with all the latest and greatest so I playing catch up right now.
You guys think this one would work?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125285
Thanks
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Thats not low profile so i would say no, why dont you buy the parts apart from the graphics and see how much room you have or...
use this search string on new egg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=False&Order=PRICED
dont buy a quadro from nvidia though...if you are putting blueray in try getting one with hdmi, it will also pass digital audio through so no need to hook up a lead from spdif to an external sound system, but if you do get an ati card it will also come with and adapter to pass audi over dvi-i.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._profile_graphics_card-_-14-129-145-_-Product is a good one for games also at the price range you stipulated.

By discreet i'm thinking what they really mean is depth "not width as low profile are, the case is more than large enough on width" as it's going to take up a PCI slot if larger than x amount, so what you need to take into consideration is how many PCI cards are you going to need if 1 then the whole gamble on does this card fit is out of the window and the world of GPU is in your grasp.
The one you linked mmafighter077 is amazing specification on Core Clock RAM DDR3 so bandwidth larger i would advise you speak to Newegg to ask about comparability even though i'm sure what i said above is the reason.
But i could be wrong

actually they dont really need to mention about discreet, read the case review http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146060 bottom left, some who has it says it can fit a geforce 280...

mmafighter077 said:
Thanks a lot guys. All this help is great. Once I built my computer I didn't keep up with all the latest and greatest so I playing catch up right now.
You guys think this one would work?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125285
Thanks
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yup !! that will do!! not as powerful as 8800GTS, but it will do the trick for you!! -- GTA4 , blu ray, you name it - the card will do it

I wouldnt buy a nvidia one since i rwad that they are less spec as the ati ones for more money.
an ati equivilent of a nvidia costs less and performs better.
flyboy

flyboyovyick2k9 said:
I wouldnt buy a nvidia one since i rwad that they are less spec as the ati ones for more money.
an ati equivilent of a nvidia costs less and performs better.
flyboy
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true!! -- But I cant help with ATI -- I dont know their model range only thing I know is - ATI 4870 or 4780 (dont remember the corect name but in the series with the first ati X2 card) is more powerfull than Nvidia GTX 260 but costs more than 50% less than GTX 260

Thoughts on DELL XPS M1340?

Looking to get DELL XPS M1340
Whats your thoughts on it?
Hardware looks good and its quite nice to look at.

khsbenny said:
Looking to get DELL XPS M1340
Whats your thoughts on it?
Hardware looks good and its quite nice to look at.
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I personally will not buy "anything" with name DELL attached to it...It's like buying a Yugo (obscure reeference)

Thats my one grudge with it. Its a Dell.
But look at it! Its hard to say no, its a completely different laptop from the usual Dells!

khsbenny said:
Thats my one grudge with it. Its a Dell.
But look at it! Its hard to say no, its a completely different laptop from the usual Dells!
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read them and weep....besides this issue, it "looks" good
From:
http://apcmag.com/australian-exclusive-dells-xps-m1340.htm
About that misleading graphics hardware...
What’s most deceiving about this machine, however, is the NVIDIA GeForce 9500M GE with its “Hybrid SLI” technology. This sounds far more impressive than it really is. Hybrid SLI does, as it says, offer the ability to boost performance or reduce power consumption where needed. However, it’s not a gamer’s card, even if it will run games.
What the 9500M GE really is, is a dedicated 9200m GS plus an integrated 9400m which ultimately offer a mere 24 shaders, with a 64-bit memory bus. Some games that offer multi-GPU benefits may garner a performance boost, but overall it’s only going to be good for DirectX 9 games in medium to low settings.
We weren’t able to run 3DMark Vantage as it requires a minimum resolution of 1280x1024, but our 3DMark 2006 score of 3586 isn’t particularly impressive. We were able to get Left 4 Dead, which is built using the Half-Life 2 (Episode 2) engine, running at medium settings, but still didn’t get particularly great frame rates, even if it was playable.

That is a little misleading indeed! But I wont be doing any intensive gaming on it... I have an xbox for that
It'll be used for casual gaming, multimedia playback and eventually some compiling when I finally learn some code!

khsbenny said:
That is a little misleading indeed! But I wont be doing any intensive gaming on it... I have an xbox for that
It'll be used for casual gaming, multimedia playback and eventually some compiling when I finally learn some code!
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This is interesting
http://reviews.cnet.com/best-laptops/
one of the most famous review websites in the web does not even DELL not even once
Check them out...I use the Toshiba and...it's great!!

if i were you for my personal and entertainment needs i would go for a Hp and for work/business i would go for a dell

It looks lyk the Dell Studio 1558.
But i dunno what the specs are. only looked at the images

Well, I've gone out and ordered it.
I would have got a HP, but my last one's motherboard got fried and they wouldn't do anything about it. It was out of warranty but it was a common fault like 100+ cases of the same thing. I even spent £10 trying to repair it!
Should be here next week, Ill post my first thoughts about it

khsbenny said:
Well, I've gone out and ordered it.
I would have got a HP, but my last one's motherboard got fried and they wouldn't do anything about it. It was out of warranty but it was a common fault like 100+ cases of the same thing. I even spent £10 trying to repair it!
Should be here next week, Ill post my first thoughts about it
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see you then!!

I have faith in Dell as they have been good to me (with the exception of their power adapter exclusivity). I wouldn't listen to CNET as they are Apple-ass-lickers for the most part. They listed a Gateway on there and I'd never touch a Gateway again based on personal experience.

Opinion on a laptop :D

Hey'yall
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-VPCEC2...95TK/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1290096115&sr=8-6
Wondering what you think of this laptop an wether I should get it
Specs:
17.3" Full HD 1080 Display
Intel i5 (No idea what clock, anyone else know?)
6GB Ram
320GB HD
Blueray player
HDMI
Multitouch trackpad (Important!)
Are there anyother laptops I shold consider first, preferably around this price and spec. but spec doesn't matter much considering im coming from a MBA lol |
Thanks

Amazon: "There is a newer version of this product available"
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-VPCEC3...r-SuperMulti/dp/B00452UCKM/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
How about that ^^^

flyboyovyick said:
Amazon: "There is a newer version of this product available"
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-VPCEC3...r-SuperMulti/dp/B00452UCKM/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
How about that ^^^
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Oh yeah Thanks Didn't see this when searching for e-series Vaio's
Any idea if this one has a bluray player? Not needed just wondering
lol it's amazing how that £20 can make it look so much dearer

Go for it man it's great the i series cpus are quad core so i ur case 2.53GHz *4 = 10.12GHz (not that you don't know that )

husam666 said:
Go for it man it's great the i series cpus are quad core so i ur case 2.53GHz *4 = 10.12GHz (not that you don't know that )
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Didn't know that oops
I presumed i3 = 3 core i5 = 5 core and i7 = 7core lol
Thanks anyway You anyideas what the difference between em is then??

Wait I was mistaken read these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_i7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_i5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_i3#Core_i3
Stupid Arabs are always wrong

husam666 said:
Wait I was mistaken read these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_i7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_i5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_i3#Core_i3
Stupid Arabs are always wrong
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Haha lol

if ya listen to me , the way u buy ur vaio is this
> goto ebay.com (or co.uk)
> type in sony vaio
> hit "PC Laptops & Netbooks" on the side
> hit "buy it now" tab
> hit price highest first
> change "items on page" to 200
> goto a page that ur comfortable with the price range and start opening up tabs and when u found one with decent style , gpu and price , u know u got the best offer possible
(same way i buy my phones)
also it goes like this
desktop:
i7 > 4/6/8 core
i5 > 4 core
moblie:
i7 > 4core
i5 > 2 core with turbo
i3 > 2 core

Sweet thanks man Great advice, that's what I was doing on Ammazon forgot about eBay,
Got my air there, 400 pounds cheaper than from apple lol

I remember when I shopped for my laptop, and I chose Dell's XPS-M1530 (15" display), man talking about regretting not getting XPS-M1330 (13" display) instead, my laptop currently sits by my TV hooked up via HDMI with BT keyboard and mouse, and when I need to move I am catching myself on the thought 13" laptop would've been just perfect, lighter, and would've cost me less money
But anyway, it is your call, and it is all depends on what you are going to use it for.

In Sony world 1080p (1920x1080) = 1600 x 900!
So you're actually getting a display that's only 70% of full HD
husam666 said:
Go for it man it's great the i series cpus are quad core so i ur case 2.53GHz *4 = 10.12GHz (not that you don't know that )
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That's really not how it works...

Well... I may have just halved my price range in hope of getting a Tegra 2 Phone next year Gunna be around £450 so I took it from my laptop budget lol
http://www.amazon.co.uk/G62-B18SA-N...1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1290248934&sr=1-4
Watcha think about this? I know it's not as high spec as I was loooking at before but IMO it looks great (I'd be interested in a sammy but i dont like the red )
Altough what is the graphics card/screen like because thats what is important to me ?
Thanks

MacaronyMax said:
Well... I may have just halved my price range in hope of getting a Tegra 2 Phone next year Gunna be around £450 so I took it from my laptop budget lol
http://www.amazon.co.uk/G62-B18SA-N...1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1290248934&sr=1-4
Watcha think about this? I know it's not as high spec as I was loooking at before but IMO it looks great (I'd be interested in a sammy but i dont like the red )
Altough what is the graphics card/screen like because thats what is important to me ?
Thanks
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It's got Intel HD graphics, so you can't play games on it Other than that it should be good for most things.

AdrianK said:
It's got Intel HD graphics, so you can't play games on it Other than that it should be good for most things.
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lol Okay thanks

[POLL] Monitor or CPU

Gonna get something as its payday... but i cant decide what... so vote pplz... new 24in Samsung monitor, or AMD x6 1090T 3.2 CPU?
Current specs = 20in samsung 2ms lcd monitor and AMD x2 240 2.8ghz CPU.

Whats your current spec Then we can tell you what's worth it
Im going to say screen though, unless you've got a crappy cpu buecause you'll notice the screen more
I personally want an AMD Phenom x6 II 1055T (2.8ghz although it's stable to over 4Ghz) And a 24" LG lol

MacaronyMax said:
Whats your current spec Then we can tell you what's worth it
Im going to say screen though, unless you've got a crappy cpu buecause you'll notice the screen more
I personally want an AMD Phenom x6 II 1055T (2.8ghz although it's stable to over 4Ghz) And a 24" LG lol
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i updated the main post with current specs.

A 6 cored CPU. Where's the doubt?

C0mpu13rFr34k said:
A 6 cored CPU. Where's the doubt?
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Yeah, from a 2 to a 6 will be great dude

Display definitely, as long as it's high resolution.

Cpu!
Scent phrum mie fone!

Aiight pplz, I'm headed to Fry's... get your final votes in
Teleported with mind bullets via XDA App.

Got a really good deal on a 24in Viewsonic for $179 ill post pics in a bit.
Teleported with mind bullets via XDA App.

heres a few pics got a 24in Viewsonic VA2431WM + Logitech G500 gaming mouse for same price as the 1090T would have cost me... ill get the CPU later.

jeallen0 said:
heres a few pics got a 24in Viewsonic VA2431WM + Logitech G500 gaming mouse for same price as the 1090T would have cost me... ill get the CPU later.
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Looks awesome dude
Also just saying.. a 1055T is the same but at a lower clock speed (I think Might want to look it up though) and is still overclockable to 4.0ghz and is £30 less So if you're looking to save money (Like me) ...

MacaronyMax said:
Looks awesome dude
Also just saying.. a 1055T is the same but at a lower clock speed (I think Might want to look it up though) and is still overclockable to 4.0ghz and is £30 less So if you're looking to save money (Like me) ...
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What about cooling?

C0mpu13rFr34k said:
What about cooling?
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They come with the same cooler... But i see your point

MacaronyMax said:
Looks awesome dude
Also just saying.. a 1055T is the same but at a lower clock speed (I think Might want to look it up though) and is still overclockable to 4.0ghz and is £30 less So if you're looking to save money (Like me) ...
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yeah the 1055T and the 1090T have pretty much the same specs just different clock speed, but it has to do with the internal memory clock controller having a higher default clock speed on the 1090T due to the higher core clock, thus being able to run faster than the 1055 but at the same temps for the size of die. Thats why im leaning to the 1090T, MORE potential and a stock clock of 3.2ghz. ive seen them at 4.5 on air running only at 105f under full load with a coolermaster V8. trust me, ive done my research... i tend to keep up with computers ever closer than i keep up with cellphones... and im ALWAYS on top of that ****e
besides ill just get a 1090t next paycheck

Oh okay lol Well.. then yeah the 1090T... I cant afford that though soo.
I've not really done much with PC's only been on Amazon looking for components which I still have to buy

MacaronyMax said:
They come with the same cooler... But i see your point
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ive already got an aftermarket coolermaster hyper n520 cpu cooler

jeallen0 said:
ive already got an aftermarket coolermaster hyper n520 cpu cooler
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Looks nice compared to my stock i5 cooler

Beast of a cooler ;P

MacaronyMax said:
Beast of a cooler ;P
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ehh its not that bad... i want a coolermaster v10 but it wont fit in my case

I've never know a fan to look so nice
I'm sure it would fit if you take some unimportant stuff out lol

Another good reason to have NS

http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/12/...eon-defenders-first-wave-now-available-for-a/
I purchased this game for $3, but make sure you have wifi connection prior to play game first time (it has to download 700MB of data).

Is it really worth it?

I woukd also like to know.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

I hear mixed things about how it runs on other devices, care to elaborate on your experience with the NS

Makes me want to return my Nexus S and wait for Tegra devices.

DarkAgent said:
Makes me want to return my Nexus S and wait for Tegra devices.
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Im honestly thinking this whole dual core thing is a gimic, one only needs sooo much power in a cell phone

slowz3r said:
Im honestly thinking this whole dual core thing is a gimic, one only needs sooo much power in a cell phone
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I don't care about the dual-core. I am talking about more powerful GPU.

DarkAgent said:
I don't care about the dual-core. I am talking about more powerful GPU.
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hopefully they push out higher rez screens along with that GPU
but back on topic, it really worth 3 bucks?....they really should let the dev choose the return window

slowz3r said:
hopefully they push out higher rez screens along with that GPU
but back on topic, it really worth 3 bucks?....they really should let the dev choose the return window
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its not bad - not the greatest game but not bad. Also it will lag up a little from time to time but looks great and its fun so I would say as a first Unreal Engine game thats not bad and can be enjoyable yeah I dont mind paying 3$

ranxoren said:
its not bad - not the greatest game but not bad. Also it will lag up a little from time to time but looks great and its fun so I would say as a first Unreal Engine game thats not bad and can be enjoyable yeah I dont mind paying 3$
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hmmm im on the edge, im all for paying money for games when its due but iono, for a game im unsure if ill like or play, hard to judge

On a whim, I purchased the game. Pretty solid game with some moderate camera quirks. Soundtrack is nice and I experienced no lag. For $3, I say it's a deal.

I want to get it but idk

One thing I really liked about Windows Phone 7 games, it requires a free demo version in order to be an "Xbox Live" title. Android should have the same requirements if it wants to compete with WP7's gaming prowess, which imo, is the best mobile gaming you can get.

Does any1 know how good the game performs on a HTC desire ?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

mingkee said:
http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/12/...eon-defenders-first-wave-now-available-for-a/
I purchased this game for $3, but make sure you have wifi connection prior to play game first time (it has to download 700MB of data).
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is $2.99 the regular price, or was it higher?
seems like a good quality game to keep in the phone... but wasting 700 MB on this, and not having an External microSD is a big decision to make

AllGamer said:
is $2.99 the regular price, or was it higher?
seems like a good quality game to keep in the phone... but wasting 700 MB on this, and not having an External microSD is a big decision to make
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I purchased it after introduction from engadget, so I don't know.

Finally an unreal engine 3 game on android ...downloading now

I have been playing it for a while and I have to say it is one of the best games on android.

very good game and well worth $3. Playing on NS and the only problem I have is some of the screens seem to not fit properly. Almost like the resolution of the screen isn't high enough to support all the menus in their native size.

Dual core processors are going to be more for efficiency than power. Better battery management and faster processing will in theory reduce battery consumption. None the less, you can count on me buying one