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Frozen Kaiser

Hi all. I seem to have the same recuuring issue at least twice a day with my kaiser.
For no apparant reason it keeps freezing on me, and each time always displays the same fuzzy graphics on the title bar (see attachment).
Has anybody come accross this issue? What shall I do?
Thanks in advance.

new rom =\...master reset..idk

Novice Gadget Boy said:
Hi all. I seem to have the same recuuring issue at least twice a day with my kaiser.
For no apparant reason it keeps freezing on me, and each time always displays the same fuzzy graphics on the title bar (see attachment).
Has anybody come accross this issue? What shall I do?
Thanks in advance.
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Do you have a custom rom or a stock rom?
What rom are you using?
What radio are you using?
Can you tell us the available memory you have?
Do you have a task manager installed, and are you making sure everything is closed prior to opening new programs?
That information will be helpful in figuring out what's going on. Let us know, thanks! =)
If you don't have one of the newer custom roms, you're pretty much guaranteed to get an answer of "install hardspl / new radio / rom".
If you have a stock rom from HTC... you're gonna hear "reflash the phone with the stock rom, and if it still does it.. return the phone, or flash it with a custom one".
How much warranty do you have left?
Can you also give us a list of what programs you have installed, and which ones are usually running?

Pictures part 1
Thanks for the quick response. There are a lot of questions so i took a bunch of screen shots. Hope this helps. Let me know if you need anymore detail.
See second post as i am unable to post all pics in one post.
Thankyou

Pictures part 2
I am also running battibar in the background.

Well, from what i gather from the screenshots you posted everything should be working fine. There's no reason it should be freezing up, unless there is some sort of conflict, or corrupt program.
Have you noticed that it happens after opening a certain program, or is it really random?

Oh, I take it that's a stock rom right? You never flashed the phone, you just installed individual cab files, right?

nimda0 said:
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....Have you noticed that it happens after opening a certain program, or is it really random?
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It seems to be random but then on the other hand ive noticed that it usually happens when its been sitting on the charger and idle (for example, i'll pop it on the charger before bed, and when i wake up in the morning its frozen). Also it happens at work when its connected to my pc via activesync and after i havent been doing anything for a while.

nimda0 said:
Oh, I take it that's a stock rom right? You never flashed the phone, you just installed individual cab files, right?
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Yes, thats correct.

Novice Gadget Boy said:
It seems to be random but then on the other hand ive noticed that it usually happens when its been sitting on the charger and idle (for example, i'll pop it on the charger before bed, and when i wake up in the morning its frozen). Also it happens at work when its connected to my pc via activesync and after i havent been doing anything for a while.
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Well... it could be overheating. If that's the case it's gotta go back. How much warranty do you have left on the phone before it ends?

Novice Gadget Boy said:
Yes, thats correct.
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Well, just like I posted above. Everything seems fine... and since you are using the stock rom you only have a few choices. You can start uninstalling programs 1 by 1... (noting which ones you uninstall so you can put them back on). Go 1/2 a day, and see if you still have the problem after uninstalling each program. That will help narrow down the theory about corrupt programs or conflicts.
Another option, is reloading the stock rom from HTC... and don't install anything. See how that works for a day... if it's fine, then you can start installing programs.... then if the problem occurs, you know it's got to be something with one of the program you've put on there.
Then you could always just uninstall everything, reset everything, and send it back and get a new phone.... but if it's the software causing the issue, and you put the same software back on the new phone.. you'll just be right back in the same situation again.
If you have warranty time left, i'd uninstall everything, and demand a new phone because of teh issues you are having. Onec you get it, then i'd flash with a custom rom... just make sure you do it right. =)
EDIT: Hell even if you don't have any warranty left, i'd STILL flash with a custom rom. I can't even begin to tell you how much better my phone runs now that it's flashed compared to before. I was using the stock ROM before from HTC, i had some issues... it was a bit laggy... so i reflashed with the stock rom, limited the software i put on it.. etc. etc.... still ran like dog piss... so i flashed, and well..... you get the picture. It's awesome now.

nimda0 said:
Well... it could be overheating. If that's the case it's gotta go back. How much warranty do you have left on the phone before it ends?
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10 months. But i dont feel any heat whatsoever, and the other day i was using it at work all day connected via activesync and it didnt freeze up. its only when i leave it idle on the charger.... Last weekend i kept getting messages from friends all during the night while it was on the charger (i was reading messages) and it didnt freeze.

So if it's sitting still for a long time without activity.. it freezes. Hmm... well i could give you a dozen things to try, but they'd just be bandaid fixes anyway. If it's freezing something isnt right.
Read my first post on page 2 of this thread you started and that should give you your options. FLASH!!

PLEASE HELP!!! Wont Boot - Red/Green/Blue Screen

Im really really hoping that someone can help me here
It started this morning around 10:00 or so - I took my phone out to check my messages, everything is working fine. I lock the phone and put it standby (power button) and *surprise*, it locks up and wont come out of standby
So i just re-set it (like im forced to do 20 times a day) and instead of booting it went straight to this red/green/blue screen. At the bottom of the screen it just says "Serial" but doesn't actually give a serial.
I instantly thought it was bricked, so i removed the battery and left it out for a few mins. Then i put the batt back in, and it booted normally. I used it throughout the day with no problems.
Fast forward a few hours and it does it again but now it wont boot at all (ive reset the thing like 100000 times in the last hour ive been working on it).
WTF is going on?? Im really really hoping that it isnt too screwed to fix
The last program I installed was the SPB pack, but that was over a month ago, and i use the phone every day, multiple times a day.
Oh, and to make things worse i was planning on relying on my TomTom tomorrow

and the text on that screen says:
Kais1*0
SPL-1.56.0000
CPLID-8
And at the bottom it just says "Serial" but none is given.
This blows

Have you recently tried to flash your phone? Have you ever? If you never have flashed it or attempted to use Olipof's app, then take it to the store and demand a new one.

Do you see "USB" instead of "Serial" if you connect your sync cable to your phone when in the bootloader?
If so, I would download the latest carrier-branded rom and flash it to your device. As long as the rom is designed for your device, then you do not need to do anything special prior to running the file from your PC.

grandpareza said:
Have you recently tried to flash your phone? Have you ever? If you never have flashed it or attempted to use Olipof's app, then take it to the store and demand a new one.
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I have never flashed it but i have spilled water near it (on the counter, the phone got wet but that was months ago and has no relation to this).
Can they check if it has been wet before?
When i plug it into my computer it says USB instead of serial. Should I try to re-flash with an updated rom and see if it fixes it or just take it in?

If you find me on MSN IM ([email protected]) we can run a diagnostic & see what the problem is.

GSLEON3 said:
If you find me on MSN IM ([email protected]) we can run a diagnostic & see what the problem is.
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Thanks, ill give you a buzz.
I need to finish and email a few things first (shouldnt take more than 30mins).

Actually, ill just message you tomorrow or something.
Ive been really busy this week.

well did you get it fixed? what did you do?

Yikes, that happened to a friend of mine, but he flashed his and then had to reflash it. I think there is a place on the back under the battery that they use to tell if it's been wet. I would take it back, even if flashing it fixes it, you don't want it to happen again.
oh and it doesn't mean serial like a serial number, it is a serial connection.

I havent been able to get it fixed.
I think ill try to flash it this weekend and see if that fixes it

You'll only make problems worse if you reflash. I've analyzed the MTTY output you've sent me & you have a bad NAND storage blocks.
You need to follow the directions I sent to your email account via MSN IM.
DO NOT REFLASH UNTIL YOU'VE TAKEN CARE OF THE BAD BLOCKS!!!

this happened to me and someone else in XDA a while back. I saw his thread (link below) and then PMed him. I will copy / paste our PMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344402
jackjohnson said:
dockular said:
jackjohnson said:
dockular said:
Sup Jack, my Tilt is doing the
Kais1*0
spl-1.56.0000
cpld-8
Serial
problem that you had talked about. I read that huge thread, lots of great info in there. Although its unfortunate what happened to you, I'm really grateful of all the troubleshooting that you've done before me, so I know what works and what doesn't. Interesting to note that I have had the Tilt since the day it came out, and never cooked/ flashed my rom. I have been using the Tilt rom the whole time with no problems. Otherwise I'm a huge power user and have a ridiculous amt of software installed.
So after everything was all said and done, did you end up just replacing the device? Thanks again man
-Anthony
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Anthony,
Yea I went ahead and replaced it. No matter what I did to reflash the original bootloader, and flash the original rom, I always ended up with that same problem. Did you notice that if you can't get it out of the bootloader, but you connect it to your computer, and while it's connect, you soft reset, that it boots? Just curious. that's what happened to me. Either that or I would have to yank the sim and battery, then try.
My tilt was working fine for about a month with a flashed rom, up until I started installing gobs of software on it. Just a thought. If I were you, I would get the device replaced. Especially if you've never flashed a new rom on it - it definitely should not be doing that.
Scott
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My computer has been broken for a month or two. To answer your question - I haven't been connecting it to anything other than an AC outlet. Anything installed in the last couple months was installed OTA... I usually just obtain a CAB by downloading it directly onto my device.
Also, its weird but sometimes after I drain the batter with the RGB screen then recharge it (this process takes about a day) then hit the reset button, it will actually boot correctly. I am on the third time this has happened. It was bricked for a couple days, then after a combination of charging / depleting got it to boot into windows. Then it happened again, then again.
As long as I don't restart the phone it will stay in windows... If I restart then I lose it for a day or so. Interesting to note that since this has happened, phone calls connect, but I can't hear the other party and they can't hear me.
Also, I use the mini usb out to a 3.5mm stereo jack to stream shoutcast into my car stereo while driving. Last week (at the onset of my problem) the music was playing from the Tilt's speakerphone, and not going through the headphone jack as it normally would. A restart fixed this, but when it happened again a day or so later, the next restart is what got me to that boot screen for the first time.
One of us should post this in the forum...
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And just an update, I never sent back my phone or did anything as far as bad blocks go. I just let the battery drain and booted it right up and now it works perfect. I have since installed a few cooked rooms and radios and have had no issues since. This RGB screen was isolated to just those few days that we were talking about in the PMs.
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dockular said:
this happened to me and someone else in XDA a while back. I saw his thread (link below) and then PMed him. I will copy / paste our PMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344402
jackjohnson said:
And just an update, I never sent back my phone or did anything as far as bad blocks go. I just let the battery drain and booted it right up and now it works perfect. I have since installed a few cooked rooms and radios and have had no issues since. This RGB screen was isolated to just those few days that we were talking about in the PMs.
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Umm... GOOD FOR YOU!!!
I had him perform a diagnostic & it reported HE HAS A BAD BLOCK! So unless you're psychic or can be sure that every problem with Boot Loader is the same as the one you had, I suggest sticking to what you know.
BTW, search the CURRENT threads, in the KAISER forum, & you'll see I've helped a few dozen people with this & similar issues.
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dude i wasn't telling him to not follow your advice. was just letting him know my story. as a matter of fact, after reading your original post I have decided to check for bad blocks on my phone.

GSLEON3;2021681
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Umm... GOOD FOR YOU!!![/B]
I had him perform a diagnostic & it reported HE HAS A BAD BLOCK! So unless you're psychic or can be sure that every problem with Boot Loader is the same as the one you had, I suggest sticking to what you know.
BTW, search the CURRENT threads, in the KAISER forum, & you'll see I've helped a few dozen people with this & similar issues.
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Well, this has happened to one of our phones. Can you just post the fix here instead of requiring the email/IM rotuine?

(g1) custom radio load failed. Need help!

hey guys i have a g1. its rooted.
i tried to get the latest custom radio. but idk why after wiped and then i used update frm sd. its did something then asked to reboot to finish installation . then the "Unboxing and an arrow to phone" came up. and its not going away .. its always there... i removed the battery fone ... tried to go to the recovery mode. nothing works .......
Need HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You said you cannot get into recover home + power
Can you get into the bootloader?? (camera + power)
If you can't boot into either of theese modes, then you probably bricked your phone during your radio update

nope.. i tried. the same screen comes up...
so there is no way to fix it now?

If you search around the forums abit there's a couple things you can try that will work in the chance that somehow it's just a softbrick....
However, not being able to boot with camera + power or home + power , is usually a sign of a brick

i think i got a softbrick.... cause its not the G1 sign.. the installation sign thats on the screen.. "Unboxing and an arrow to phone"
anyhow tnx dude

o7hafiz said:
i think i got a softbrick.... cause its not the G1 sign.. the installation sign thats on the screen.. "Unboxing and an arrow to phone"
anyhow tnx dude
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Doesn't matter what you can see on-screen, if you can't get in to the SPL (home+camera) and can't boot the phone itself, then the thing's dead. Simple as.
Only way to fix that is to take it back to HTC/Tmo and say that's what happened after an OTA update, or replace the motherboard.
What radio were you trying to flash? One from the Hero?

not looking good :/
That part where you said unboxing.. by forever did you mean atleast 10 minutes? sometimes this part can take forever.. If you yanked the battery while it was still updating the radio odds are you're sol :/
Also did you have the correct spl installed? sadly jacking up the radio install is the easiest way to perma brick your phone...

i tried to flash this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=552591
then i tough it'll be better if used the latest radio as that ask... so i used "update-hero-radio-63.18.55.06IU_6.35.08.22-signed" i pasted it on my sd. then used update frm sd zip...
the installed and asked to reboot.. i did then i installed but that the end that screen came up =/

So in short you tried to update a G1 with a Hero radio image. I think that's the first time I seen this one. Not sure where to point you too at this point.....

jackslim said:
So in short you tried to update a G1 with a Hero radio image. I think that's the first time I seen this one. Not sure where to point you too at this point.....
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The "ROM Flashing for dummies" book? ;P
Moral of this story, don't flash radio images intended for other devices!!...Or ROMs for that matter. They won't brick but without the required drivers they aren't going to work.

so thats it.................. i just leave it like that......... trash that fone? lol
that radio was a mistake.. i didnt read that name.. i thought it was for g1's htc rom.. but w.e
tell what should i do... just leave it till i get a solution?

o7hafiz said:
so thats it.................. i just leave it like that......... trash that fone? lol
that radio was a mistake.. i didnt read that name.. i thought it was for g1's htc rom.. but w.e
tell what should i do... just leave it till i get a solution?
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Depending on how long you've had the phone, if it's been less than a year, you could call T-Mobile and say something to the affect of, your phone said it needed to reboot to apply an update and now it's stuck on this screen etc.. etc.. , and they would probably issue you a replacement, however if you get caught doing this, they could charge you an additional fee, and this is probably considered an insurance scam, you can decide what you'd like to do on your own, I just wanted to throw that little disclaimer in

nice to you find such matter funny.
anyhow ... i press and held the track ball and hit power button.. the blue like came out and the screen is black... O-o is that a good sign?
please help guys

Trackball does nothing but put it into "blue light mode", the ones you need working are home+power & camera+power. there are several pseudo solutions that claim to work even if these key combinations don't and perhaps they do for a few that are only softbricked. But, there are several hundred people with G1's in paperweight mode who'd beg to differ.
Alas, you've got alot of reading ahead of you, which could have been avoided had you done more reading in the first place :/
My suggestion, being that it seems you're fairly new, with a fairly new phone is follow jackslim's advice above and do alot more research next time...

thank you all of you...
ill go talk to T-mobile tomorrow see if they are able to help...=/
but i just wanned to show how the screen looks like
http://i27.tinypic.com/10rskyx.jpg
once again thanks for the advice

kinda odd tho. have you tried putting rc29's DREAIMG.NBH on the sd and holding camera+power...
Edit: then again, a hero radio on a "not hero" could definitely cause "odd"
oh and don't forget to atleast wipe your sd before going to t-mobile....

My X1 restarts by it self at random times

this started happening randomly about 2 weeks ago now
I've tried 3 different roms, but the problem still exists
it first started happening when i had the eneryrom flashed
but now i believe its not the roms thats causing this, i think its the hardware in my x1 or something, im not sure
what can i do to fix this?
basically my x1 restarts by it self, randomly at random times
maybe every other day, and sometimes even twice in a day
its really weird and not looking good at all
any help is appreciated, i just want to fix this

qritikal said:
this started happening randomly about 2 weeks ago now
I've tried 3 different roms, but the problem still exists
it first started happening when i had the eneryrom flashed
but now i believe its not the roms thats causing this, i think its the hardware in my x1 or something, im not sure
what can i do to fix this?
basically my x1 restarts by it self, randomly at random times
maybe every other day, and sometimes even twice in a day
its really weird and not looking good at all
any help is appreciated, i just want to fix this
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Did you install any kind of softwares or applications? Could be due to an unstable application
Also, does it restart when you are using it or doing something on your phone? or does it just restart while sitting on the table?

If it just restarts when the phone is in your pocket while walking/running (when u r not using it), then it could be possible that your battery is loose.
Check to see if you battery fits perfectly. stick in a folded small piece of paper at one of the bottom side of the battery to tighten the battery if your battery is loose.
Let me know if this is the case.

I would suggest flashing back to stock rom and see if the problem still exists....sd card could be a factor also...
Regards,
WC

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Did you install any kind of softwares or applications? Could be due to an unstable application
Also, does it restart when you are using it or doing something on your phone? or does it just restart while sitting on the table?
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nope i didnt install any softwares of applications, i just use the roms how they are
also yes it only restarts when its sitting on the table

haroonazeem638 said:
If it just restarts when the phone is in your pocket while walking/running (when u r not using it), then it could be possible that your battery is loose.
Check to see if you battery fits perfectly. stick in a folded small piece of paper at one of the bottom side of the battery to tighten the battery if your battery is loose.
Let me know if this is the case.
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i will check my battey, doesnt seem like battery is loose but i will double check, and get back about that

Wild Child said:
I would suggest flashing back to stock rom and see if the problem still exists....sd card could be a factor also...
Regards,
WC
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i;ve been using roms for months, it never happened before just recently
its really hectic for me to flash back to stock but if thats the only option i will do it
also if its sd card,,,how could i fix that, should i reformat it or something?

This has happened to me in the past when using an HTC Touch Diamond. I think it has something to do with not wiping the device or doing a hard reset before flashing a new rom. Does it hard reset when the phone restarts?

Zaslav said:
This has happened to me in the past when using an HTC Touch Diamond. I think it has something to do with not wiping the device or doing a hard reset before flashing a new rom. Does it hard reset when the phone restarts?
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nope just a regular restart
i've installed my rom's with the right procedures, including a hard reset its not that

any other solutions please?

I mentioned the flashing back to stock to rule out its not a hardware issue....but a software issue....remove your sd card copy the contents of it to your hard driver....reformat the card....Im not saying this will solve it...but i have seen the sd card becaue of reminants of other flashes mess some things up...
Regards,
WC
qritikal said:
i;ve been using roms for months, it never happened before just recently
its really hectic for me to flash back to stock but if thats the only option i will do it
also if its sd card,,,how could i fix that, should i reformat it or something?
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reflash your stock rom.. if your phone is not functioning as normal, then i suggest to check with SE

I would download the ROM and re-flash your phone. Could be possible that the download got corrupted. Wouldn't hurt.

Wild Child said:
I mentioned the flashing back to stock to rule out its not a hardware issue....but a software issue....remove your sd card copy the contents of it to your hard driver....reformat the card....Im not saying this will solve it...but i have seen the sd card becaue of reminants of other flashes mess some things up...
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WC
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i flashed back to the latest stock rom
i thought it was okay at first but still my phone restarts at random time when its laying on the table
i have no clue what to do anymore
i did also reformat the sd card
i dont think i have warranty with SE any more, i dont have my receipts n etc
what can i do? please help

Remove the sd card and see what it does...other then that...your device may be giving up the ghost and may need to be sent to a service center....
Regards,
WC
qritikal said:
i flashed back to the latest stock rom
i thought it was okay at first but still my phone restarts at random time when its laying on the table
i have no clue what to do anymore
i did also reformat the sd card
i dont think i have warranty with SE any more, i dont have my receipts n etc
what can i do? please help
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tried everything, im sure there something wrong with the phone
cant do anything about it, but thanks for the help guys

Need help G1 newb!! phone stuck in dev mode?

Ok i just got a free g1, im acually on att and all my phones have been winmo htc phones, even done a few custom roms for myself.
Anyways i got this phone thinking #1, i can unlock like any other htc phone fairly east to work with att? Second of all it keeps booting up and i see a triangle and a ! in the middle. When i hold down alt l and try to restore factory settings then reboot it goes to the same screen the error im getting is E: cant open /cache/recovery/command. So idk what to do from here i dont want any custom roms or anything honestly just want to unlock the phone and play with android, guessing something is horribly wrong with the rom on this phone.
Also this probably sounds really dumb but i dont see an SD slot on this phone its a t-mobile branded g1. Im not sure if its suppose to have one or what? The only thing i see is a place to insert the sim card right below the battery. If this phone doesnt have an sd slot am i screwed as far has getting it all fixed up.
Basically i know nothing about android this was a free phone figured it would make a good back up or replacement to my ATT fuze if i ended up like Android better than WinMo. Sorry for all the lame ass questions but im pretty clueless and would just like to get this phone running as quickly as possible so i can start playing with android and learn what im doing.

boorishid said:
Ok i just got a free g1, im acually on att and all my phones have been winmo htc phones, even done a few custom roms for myself.
Anyways i got this phone thinking #1, i can unlock like any other htc phone fairly east to work with att? Second of all it keeps booting up and i see a triangle and a ! in the middle. When i hold down alt l and try to restore factory settings then reboot it goes to the same screen the error im getting is E: cant open /cache/recovery/command. So idk what to do from here i dont want any custom roms or anything honestly just want to unlock the phone and play with android, guessing something is horribly wrong with the rom on this phone.
Also this probably sounds really dumb but i dont see an SD slot on this phone its a t-mobile branded g1. Im not sure if its suppose to have one or what? The only thing i see is a place to insert the sim card right below the battery. If this phone doesnt have an sd slot am i screwed as far has getting it all fixed up.
Basically i know nothing about android this was a free phone figured it would make a good back up or replacement to my ATT fuze if i ended up like Android better than WinMo. Sorry for all the lame ass questions but im pretty clueless and would just like to get this phone running as quickly as possible so i can start playing with android and learn what im doing.
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when you open the keyboard there is a little latch by the green call button that's where the sd card goes

boorishid said:
Basically i know nothing about android this was a free phone figured it would make a good back up or replacement to my ATT fuze if i ended up like Android better than WinMo. Sorry for all the lame ass questions but im pretty clueless and would just like to get this phone running as quickly as possible so i can start playing with android and learn what im doing.
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You probably wont like this answer but you posted in the wrong forum. You really need to figure out how to search because the answer you seek is not a simple one. I would first start searching (maybe try Google) as to where the SD slot is located.

http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&q=g1+user+manual
would have saved you some confusion

as an xda member, i'd expect you to post in the right forum... LOL
the sd slot is underneath a cover below the green (send) button.
I find it easier to open the keyboard and pull on the tab on the upper left corner of the chin.
As to the rom, I'd suggest that you go into fastboot and flash a rom from there (boot while holding camera)
to flash in fastboot, use
Code:
flash_image (type) whatever.img

jcarrz1 said:
as an xda member, i'd expect you to post in the right forum... LOL
As to the rom, I'd suggest that you go into fastboot and flash a rom from there (boot while holding camera)
to flash in fastboot, use
Code:
flash_image (type) whatever.img
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Seriously, he had no clue as to where the sd card was located, do you expect him to have downloaded the SDK and have fastboot setup? I really think he needs to search as it is more complicated than it seems.

bkmo said:
Seriously, he had no clue as to where the sd card was located, do you expect him to have downloaded the SDK and have fastboot setup? I really think he needs to search as it is more complicated than it seems.
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i did that on purpose
note my inclusion of whatever.img

jcarrz1 said:
i did that on purpose
note my inclusion of whatever.img
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And I thought I was trying not to sound cruel. Well at least you have hinted as to what he needs to search for.

seriously....can ANYONE read the rules? or even use a little bit of common sense before posting?
c'mon man, how could this possibly belong in the development section?

Moved as not Android Development.

sorry, if i posted in the wrong forum i googled xda g1 forum and just clicked it.
As for slashing the ting im really trying to avoid that. Like i said i know nothing about android. The first few times i turned the phone on on it worked fine, just told me to insert sim card. Then i got home turned it on to really start messing with it and it just wouldnt boot and has kept giving me that error, i have no idea why i didnt try to flash the thing or anything like that. Ive held down alt l, as per searching the net went to the restore factory defualt option the phone seems to format then when i reset it i get the same error and can only turn the phone off by removing the battery.
Sorry like i said i know these are all idiot questions, sorry about posting in the wrong forum originally, like i said just did a quick google and posted i was on my way out the door. I just want to get the phone working stock and go from there. Phone seemed to be just fine at one point, i didnt do anything to it, i couldnt even get past please insert sim, so idk why im even getting this error at all. Basically the little searching i did do a few days ago made it seem like it had to do with flashing and updating which i definately did not do.

from what I understand in your post you only "half setup" your phone
( got as far as being asked for sim )
try pressing ALT+w when at the " triangle ! "
this should do a factory data reset, and next time you boot it will set up your phone from the begining

boorishid said:
As for slashing the ting im really trying to avoid that.
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Yeah I would want to avoid that too lmao

Thank you for the help but ive alread tried alt w and going back to defualts with alt l. Everytime the thing reboots after reseting defualts it goes back to that triangle screen. and when i press alt l it shows the error i mentioned before..

try this
http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/wiki/Unbrick

The "triangle screen" is the recovery mode. That error about recovery/command always shows up, it's no big deal.
Are you holding any buttons while you boot? Holding home while turning the phone on gets you to recovery (your triangle screen), holding camera gets you to fastboot. You just want to boot normally.
If the G1 isn't rooted, you won't be able to get past the initial setup screen unless you've got a T-Mobile sim in it. Once you get to the sim error, you've made progress from what you've said here though. If you can get back to that, search around. I seem to recall that some people here run their G1 without a sim, so perhaps you can find out how they did it.