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Hello fellow Kaiser users,
I don't know if this happened only with me or others have experienced the same.
TyTN II keys on the QWERTY after a year of use has some keys responding after the 2nd or 3rd stroke of the key.
Did anyone else experience this?
Is there a solution?
It is really bugging me when I'm typing an SMS or typing something down.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
Hardware suggestions also I will try on my own risk.
fireblade63 said:
TyTN II keys on the QWERTY after a year of use has some keys responding after the 2nd or 3rd stroke of the key.
Did anyone else experience this?
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Same problem here, but I started noticing it after 4/5 months of use. Would like to know about a solution also.
I feel your pain, this is what is really killing me because the keyboard is a very big part of the phone, and I've only been using it for 7 months. If i knew it would become this unresponsive i would of got an i phone because this phones on screen keyboard and transcriber is useless.
It happened to me after 7 months. The "c" key on my tilt started to become unresponsive so I called up at&t and had it warranty exchanged for a refurb. This second one was already even worse than the one I'd just sent back, so I had them send out another one. This third one is fine, although the "c" key (again, oddly enough) doesn't click like the others. It's responsive, but feels a little different. I didn't feel like going through the exchange process again, so for now I'm living with it.
My 1 month old refurb tilt doesn't type the keys when I press them sometimes. I should have that fixed. I thought it was a software problem...
My brand new XPS M1530 does the same thing sometimes. I guess I reckoned it was just me not pressing on the keys hard enough or something like that...
So I'm not the only one with the problem...
But no solution?!
Even a hint of what might be causing this would help..
have you guys tried using the disable XT9 cab ?
yes
I think it is H/W cleaning related
How to clean is the deal...
you can find disassembling guides on mikechannon's web. just follow the disassembling instructions and after you remove keyboard, try cleaning it.
Same problem for me.
I'm always very carefull with my device, and don't use the hardware keyboard very often.
Now for some letters I really have to press harder to make them work.
I have my device for only 6 or 7 months.
Have had my Kaiser for 6 months now and the Y and B keys are starting to go out. For the past couple weeks I have been considering sending it in for warranty exchange but I have taken very good care of my Kaiser and worry about what I would get back...
Anyone eager enough tried disasembling and cleaning?
Moreover, did it work?
funny thing here is that I get more unresponsiveness in the right side of the keyboard (enter; L; P; direction keys).
It is a real pain...
Most prolly will do it soon
Will let you all know of the outcome
Same here.
Had mine 8 months, the W key is worst, takes a really heavy press to get it to work, has been like that for about 5 months.
Now the B is also getting bad, so is the S.
If i'm likely to get a refurb back i guess i'll just put up with it until my contract is up.
I'm facing the same problem on my HTC herald. HTC keyboard quality has gone way down. I never faced such problem when I had htc universal.
Hey man,
since you had quite some ppls share of PPCs;
did you disassemble any of them before?
Do you think it's a good idea to do it myself?
I'm extra careful normally but I'm having doubts
kdskamal said:
I'm facing the same problem on my HTC herald. HTC keyboard quality has gone way down. I never faced such problem when I had htc universal.
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Similar problems here with my Tilt. FN, CAP/SHIFT, N are all problematic for me.
Has anyone tried a spray liquid electronic "contact cleaner" on a device like this before?
Weird
Oddly enough, I have had this problem a little bit with mine as well. However mine is the space bar. I, like many others I am sure, have hopped from ROM to ROM. When I changed ROMs the last time, it seemed to fix the issue. It was really weird because a lot of the times I would type something, and the letters would turn out something like this:
Iw antt oe at atj oes.
Like I said, I just swapped ROMs and it seemed to fix it. maybe the t9?
killerbeans said:
Oddly enough, I have had this problem a little bit with mine as well. However mine is the space bar. I, like many others I am sure, have hopped from ROM to ROM. When I changed ROMs the last time, it seemed to fix the issue. It was really weird because a lot of the times I would type something, and the letters would turn out something like this:
Iw antt oe at atj oes.
Like I said, I just swapped ROMs and it seemed to fix it. maybe the t9?
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You are correct sir! Just run "disable xt9" (found plenty of places on the kaiser forum) and your problem should be fixed.
I too have had this problem. I noticed it with the d, r, and space bar keys. Interestingly enough the keys that i press often (Take A for example [I have it mapped to the A button in PocketNesterPlus]) aren't hard to press at all. What I'm trying right now is pressing the problem keys over and over again to see if they "loosen up". Best Case Scenario: It works. Worst Case Scenario: I ruin an expensive piece of equipment.
Update: This might be working. To test which keys were unresponsive i typed abcdefghijklmnop.... without exerting any extra effort. The keys w and r didn't show up so i kept working them. I repeated the test and I got r to work. perhaps i am unknowingly pressing r harder, or perhaps not.
I have been using my Xperia X1 for couple of months and since I'm a heavy user of the slide-out keyboard (for Internet, SMS, e-mails etc), I noticed that some of the keys especially on the lower side, such as the Fn (blue) C, V, N, spacebar and dot (.) keys are not as responsive as other keys. I need some extra "push" on the affected keys compared to other keys. This is irritating since the letters would be "skipped" if I type fast and I always need to backspace and correct it.
I suspect it might be due to some mechanical issues on the keys and not related to the phone's software, is there a way I can fix this? Shall I bring it to the service centre since it's still under warranty?
Thanks in advance.
im starting to experience this thing too. For some reason the spacebar button needed to be press harder. ITs quite irritating because i dont like to prees button that hard when im typing
I am also experiencing a similar issue, mainly the 'v' key that irritates me, it will either not respond or be like 'vvv' when I press it.. I presume this is a hardware issue?
im thinking about getting it back to shop for a repair. But that'll take a while or so to fix the keyboard etc.
And yes, i think it is a hardware issue.
Looks like the same problem
I can't realise that I have to press harder, but the issue with the lost or double letter seems the same it's the 'n' and 'm' in my case... very annnoyinnng
below is my post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495897
So, if it's hardware, means they fix it and after two month it starts again on heavy users???
i have the same problem too. my friend(use to work at SE service center ) suggest i go down and change the keyboard. as long and it's under warranty it's free.
my space button on the 'right' side needs extra effort. while on the 'left' side it's fine, but i'm use to using my right thumb to press space. and my fullstop button too.
my space is kapo!
Yes, my left space bar is less responsive as well and it can be quite irritating sometimes...
random multiple letters
Meh, I seem to be getting keyboard issues with mine too. Example:
o, p, l, a, i, f all seem to repeat 3 times, n gives an n and a space at the same time, m gives m and :, e repeats twice... Much annoyance, as I am usually meticulous with my spelling on emails and sms - none of this text speak crap. I have to re-read my messages before sending them now!
Anyone had any experience sending them off to K&N in the UK?
I'm proper miffed that Sony's "Next day replacement" thing only works if you are out of the country from which your device was purchased.
/rant!
Some of us picked this phone OVER the HD because of the keyboard. At the time I bought this phone, the THD is cheaper than the X1.
And guess what happens? The main defining feature of this phone messes up. We did not buy a cheap phone, or at least back then. It is stupid.
Having to press the space bar harder than other keys is lame. You can't type with confidence, having to correct the errors again and again. You can also choose to press extra hard on either the keyboard, which use alot of concentration, or press equally hard on all keys, which tires your hands out.
I can't even compose a email without my hands and mind hurting, or having missing keypresses. Miss those days, only 2 months back when I can type like a champ. Kudos to Vodaphone for discontinuing phone. Potential buyers should wait for TP2
Many face the same problem...
I think it's worth to complain officially and refer to this thread... I saw someone else opend another one... Anyway, with both threads there are a lot of users already. BTW, mine is getting worse, it's like a virus and infecting the other keys, slowly but steady. I go to a SE shop tomorrow...
AND YES, I ALSO PURCHASED IT MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE KEYBOARD...
is "au:" button workable??cos i press mine,it dint show anything..i remember it used to show something on the screen..and "n" annoy me the most,usually come out nnn when i press it..sad i only having it for 3 months..
okay i also got this problem... kinda funny 2 explain.. so looks i'm not the only 1.. but since obviously only we few have this problem (an here http://indrapr.blogspot.com/2009/03/annoying-sony-ericsson-xperia-x1s.html) it might really b hardware related...? anybody sent it in ?
pls XDA experts... could this b somehow software related?
dont think so coz i'm hard resetin and flashin the whole time and always have the same issue...
this problem really makes a huge part of the X1... useless..
plssss help...
superweijie said:
Potential buyers should wait for TP2
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Yeah, sure, buying another 500 € device which is produced by HTC. HTC is not capable of producing quality. All my HTC phones (Magician, Hermes and X1 - which is produced by HTC) had heavy quality issues. It's damn chinese (no) quality control, sorry for being politically incorrect, but that's the impression I get with many products these days.
My hope was that Sony Ericsson would check the quality of HTC better than themselves but I guess I was wrong. Even though the housing is quite solid, the coat peels off by nothing more than putting it into the pocket. And now, half a year after I have bought it for 500 €, the keyboard, which has been lousy since day one, starts to get even worse, making the X1 a ripoff. I think I will send the device in, also because of the coat peeling. I can, here in germany, exchange the device three times until they have to give me my money back - I really hope this will happen.
this has just started happening to me down one side of my keyboard (the right-hand side).
does this only seem to be happening to the right-hand side of the keyboard ?
is this happening to anyone with the standard rom ?
mine is exactly the opposite. The space bar from the right hand side is too sensitive lately, when i press it is adding three or even four spaces at a time!
Sony Ericson service know this problem as well.Like they also know crack in case problem.As i explain in 'do you regret' thread they know all this problem but they dont do anything to fix.Shame on them.You have to book your phone 3 times.Afterwards they ll give you new unit.That is it.Cheers
just read your blog post, (mr creator of the thread) and it describes exactly my situation, even they sucession in which keys started having issues.
anyways, your lucky you could fix it. I couldnt even if i wanted cuz i bought it in USA from a store that sold vodafone unlocked X1s and brought it to Latin America, so im basically screwed :S
im thinkin of opene it myself and clean it or something, but if guysand SE service had to replace it, i guess that wont help much :S
I have the same problem, with button 'a'. I just need to press it harder than the other buttons. That is very very annoying, to have BK issue with device, bought because of it. And ofcourse I have the "crack" issue, and I used a glue to stop the crack from spreading out.
Such quality issues are very annoying when you buy a 500 Euro smartphone.
So I either remove the glue (I hope SE won't make a problem of that) and return it to SE for KB replacement, or clean the keyboard by myself (there is a tutorial for that, but it doesn't look very easy). But ofcourse I have to wait until the 'a' button stops working completely and than wait for SE to do something about it.
I have a question about the SE service: do you think that they will refuse to take care of the phone because I used a glue for the crack on my X1? Could that be an excuse for them to refuse my warranty?
lol...this is just ridiculous...i got the same problem, but i thought to be too stupid to hit the keys correctly. on my device the "broken" keys are m,n,dot, right space bar...
going to send it in for repair...
first had this cracked case problem and now this one...
I don't know if it's the new rom or just the 'age' (3 month now)...
But since approx. two weekes, by typing messages on the x1 keyboard it doubles or even tripples the letter n, sometimes m? This very annoying...
Anyone have the same problem? All other keys work normal...
Anyone knows how to set a delay at the keyboard? When I press a key and hold it, it take half a second or so until it multiplys the letter. This time i would like to change. Any registry entry?
Thanks for the help...
same issue .. not only m and n on my side..
refer to this post 4 further infos...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483644
same mine. it's only dust
Mine's the opposite. My 'M' doesn't seem very sensitive. My words always seem to miss that 'M'. But the one that's real sensitive is the '.'. That seems to appear all the time.
it started like this with me .. the "M" alone was the problem ..
now the whole keyboard triples EVERYTHING ! -.-''
we really need help
I had that issue briefly with a R2A German Generic I tried. Never happened again though .
You can improve the situation by lowering the rate at which your key strokes are repeated by going to Settings > Buttons then on the "Up/Down Control" tab if you move the first slider to Slow and the Repeat Rate slider to Slow then the problem sort of "disappears"
I had the same issue with a lot of keys, i, m,n,k,l etc...
I did a hard reset and upgraded my rom, installed sms-chat... did everything but the issue persisted.
Finally i took it to the service center and they replaced the plate underneath which senses the keystroke.
It works fine now...
i dunno about u guys
but i spent all night cleanning the keyboard & its working fine now
its hard ,i used a YouTube video.
hatlo0or said:
i dunno about u guys
but i spent all night cleanning the keyboard & its working fine now
its hard ,i used a YouTube video.
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Exactly how did you cleaned your keyboard? I want to clean it by myself too.. Which tools did you use?
I used this vedio Xperia X1 - Disassembly Rear
Its harder than it looks , if you try it be VERY carefull as the parts can be easily broken
hatlo0or said:
I used this vedio Xperia X1 - Disassembly Rear
Its harder than it looks , if you try it be VERY carefull as the parts can be easily broken
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Thanks a lot man!.. i'll give it a try and post the results cause this is a very common problem with the x1's. And probably as common as the cracks on the silver x1's.
Again.. Thanks a lot!
try this fix
i got this cab a while back for this problems, seems to work on wm6.5 also
disassembling did not help - there was no part to clean or to mechanically tighten.
vrbcik said:
disassembling did not help - there was no part to clean or to mechanically tighten.
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Did you try the disassembly and clean the keyboard?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535664
aww wut? i have a problem with my X key as well! i have to push harder to use it and i really dont want to fiddle around with the parts into to clean it.
Great
Hkt said:
Did you try the disassembly and clean the keyboard?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535664
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Ok, I have done it oncemore - and it seems it helped. Although I am sure it was not dirty from "outside". I would say, it was the sticker or the glue from the sticker which made the contacts dirty.
madjokeer said:
i got this cab a while back for this problems, seems to work on wm6.5 also
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how does this work what does it do any idea?
I haven't read through all the thread, but I can tell everyone who has this keyboard problem of multiple keystrokes and no keystrokes that it is HARDWARE and it can get worse over time. It can be sometimes lessened by some software tweaks but.... don't expect anything major.
I had the same issue, first starting with "f" then spreading over to space, l, m, n and a lot more keys.
The phone was sent to repair three times with no improvement until the third time when it was replaced. I sent it to Flextronics in Newmarket, ON with an RMA# from Sony Ericsson. I still have the worksheets and everything else if anyone wants to make a sticky because I see a lot of posts about this.
My original phone was a 08W36, I now have a 09W30 with no problems so far...
Better get it fixed before it goes out of warranty.
For those of you out of warranty, I think there were a few threads about this explaining how to disassemble the keyboard and clean the plates.
andreitu said:
I haven't read through all the thread, but I can tell everyone who has this keyboard problem of multiple keystrokes and no keystrokes that it is HARDWARE and it can get worse over time. It can be sometimes lessened by some software tweaks but.... don't expect anything major.
I had the same issue, first starting with "f" then spreading over to space, l, m, n and a lot more keys.
The phone was sent to repair three times with no improvement until the third time when it was replaced. I sent it to Flextronics in Newmarket, ON with an RMA# from Sony Ericsson. I still have the worksheets and everything else if anyone wants to make a sticky because I see a lot of posts about this.
My original phone was a 08W36, I now have a 09W30 with no problems so far...
Better get it fixed before it goes out of warranty.
For those of you out of warranty, I think there were a few threads about this explaining how to disassemble the keyboard and clean the plates.
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how long did you spend without your x1? sending it to getting it back because obviously if its gonna take 2 weeks then i'll be hesitant to send it :S
I got this weird problem... On two Xperias! My first was like this from the beginning, the other started two days ago.
I can't get the screen aligned. i got coordinates from a friends perfectly aligned screen, and it is off, not in the edges, but in the middle. I don't understand what might be wrong. I have aligned my screen 30 times, and flashed the phone two, with two different ROMs, one original UK Xperia, one Blackstone by itje.
If other people got this problem, please make a post here.
Also, if you got "perfect align screen", if you can post your coordinates from the registry here, so I can test them, it would be great!
bump. please, need to find out if other people got this problem
Lol
Looks like nobody does. Do a hard reset on your phone from the Start Menu/Settings and perform the manual align by tapping the screen.
You can't just take settings from another phone and expect them to align because it doesn't work like that, otherwise the alignment wouldnt even be necessary.
Manual align this way and let us know how it goes.
Well, it did work at first. But the day after the middle part of the screen was completely off. But I have tried hard reset, soft reset, installed different ROMs, nothing works.
Sounds weird. Of the digitizer is broken it wouldn't work anywhere correctly. Check your installed programs. Maybe something is messing with your touch-alignment.
Have same issue
do you align using ur finger or ur stylus ??....better the stylus
"i got coordinates from a friends perfectly aligned"
Now that sentence made me think about what you are doing..
just align and follow the instructions? ...
Sorry but... JERK!
I tried to align, but it just looped, as I SAID BEFORE! Please read all posts before saying ANYTHING, because if not, it WON'T help me, or others that might have the same problem.
The coordinates from my friend, which I got from his registry, on the same phone, with same language, probably the same party, worked one day, the next it didn't. I allways align with my stylus, tried with finger, didn't help. got no programs installed, have tried itje's rom, and a vanilla Xperia UK rom, same problem.
In fact, same problem on TWO Xperias, gotten from the same store, same color, but the last from a later party, which my friend got one of too.
This can't be a coincidence... I will deliver my phone to the store, but I need confirmation about the loop from other people here too, because this time, I will get my money back. I can't go half a year without a phone because SE screwed up their deal with HTC, which choose to take cheap crap-plastics and apparently screens instead of the real deal in phones priced 650$++ here in Norway. It just doesn't hold up!
alignment routine looping
i've had the alignment program problem looping issue before and eventually realised that it was because I wasn't tapping the screen hard enough with my stylus. I'm not saying smash the hell out of it but applying a little extra pressure did the trick for me.
As far as loosing the settings and hacking it using a mate's calibration I'm with the others - probably an app you've got installed that's wiping it and using somebody else's cal is pointless!
I tried tapping so hard you get the lcd-effect, the rainbow-effect on the screen. Too hard. And, only prog i got installed is regedit. Only aftermarket I got, so thats no go. Guess the touch-thingy (digitizer?) is screwed then. Well, I want my money back
It will be just a few days till may warranty will be over (1 year warranty) and my silver just got almost dead digitizer today. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't since I installed touch response before so it'll vibrate when I touch it. I hard reset my phone since I think it maybe due to a software problem, but now I'm stuck on the align screen. I guess of all the Xperia users on the whole wide world I consider myself to be the "unluckiest".
Hello everyone!
I've had my X1 for about two weeks now, and I love it!
Even with Windows Phone 7 coming up, there is just an undeniable charm about it. My bet is that the charm comes from the face buttons! hehe.
So anyway.
My problem is the following: Everytime I push the "A" key, something goes wrong. Sometimes it doesnt register that it has been pressed, but most times it registers a "double" press! I press the "A" key, and it registers "aa", or sometimes even "aaa".
It is really bugging me out. Is there some program to fix that? Some... Program that lets you mess around with the key's repeat speed or something like that?
Thanks a bunch, guys. I love XDA!
PS: Whole thread was written in the X1! Hehehe.
XDA cant do any thing for this issue , this is factory fault SE
clean the keyboard.... disassemble and clean it, there will be no issue afterwards....
there is a tutorial to read, just use search.
If your are affraid of doing it yourself, give it to a service center, and ask them to do it.
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PS: Whole thread was written in the X1! Hehehe.
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Probably took you a while to fix all typo's *snickers quietly*
It's a well known problem that occurs to any X1 user sooner or later. You'll have to disassemble the phone to clean the keyboard. There is a good tutorial here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535664
A slightly less aggressive approch is X1BH (search for it on this forum).
There is an option, in settings, to remove the "repeated" letterr
works a treat