As great as it is, the Hero is always going to attract comparisons with the iPhone. Both have their merits, but one area the Hero lags behind the iPhone is music management. The ease with which iTunes syncs music to the iPhone (or iPod) is a breeze, and I'd like to see the same with my Hero. Is there anything already, or does someone fancy coding a Windows program to do the same?
you can copy music just as files to your sdcard. although i would not call that "syncing" it is IMHO the best way there is, as it is portable to most devices and operating systems out there. don't know the result, but this topic was discussed already.
http://ita.sourceforge.net/
Try doubletwist.
Just like iTunes, imo
minorsecond said:
Try doubletwist.
Just like iTunes, imo
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I uninstalled because I didn't want to sign up for another service.
Winamp
You can use the good old Winamp to sync music to your phone, pretty much like iTunes.
I use Salling Media Sync . With it I can keep using iTunes and more or less sync my music like I used to.
Edit: I see no real need to buy the program. The free version works well.
I am using SongBird + Folder Sync add on. But it has some bugs for now.
Doubletwist is No. 1.
I tried doubleTwist, but it doesn't update tags after I edit them, so I switched to SongBird.
Do you use FolderSync or other add on? FolderSync gives some errors. And my problem with the SongBird is it can watch only 1 folder, but I download music to 2-3 different folders in 2 drives.
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Hey guys im not sure if there's a sticky or how-to here on the forums on how to add music from your computer to your g1... if there isn't can someone please explain how? thanks
Just copy any mp3 files to the SD card, the apps on the v1.5 of Android will search out any mp3 files, if you are still using v1.0/1.1 I forget the app I used to use, but there should be several available from Android Market for free.
can i get 1.5 without having a rooted phone? if so how?
Don't need to be on 1.5, 1.0 (RC19-RC30) and 1.1 (RC33) will do. Just dump the mp3s into a directory named "Music" on the root of the sdcard. The mp3s can be in any depth of directory. The music app will automatically index them and show album art if present. Android presents the sdcard as a mass storage class device, so any program that can manage such a device can also manage a music library on the sdcard.
thanks! im stupid for not realizing how to do it in the first place lol
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thanks! im stupid for not realizing how to do it in the first place lol
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Or used to something much more convulted...
DoubleTwist
There is also a program called DoubleTwist which will let you copy music that you have downloaded from iTunes over to you phone as well. It is completely free but it requires registration.
Right this isn't an ipod.
P.s. do the lazy/stupid owners of the almighty G1 annoy the piss out of anyone else? I see it here (a developer not a user forum), the market, other forums, etc.
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Right this isn't an ipod.
P.s. do the lazy/stupid owners of the almighty G1 annoy the piss out of anyone else? I see it here (a developer not a user forum), the market, other forums, etc.
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Every mass-market consumer device has uninformed or inexperienced users. That's just natural. I'm okay with seeing newbie questions in the General or App&Games forums, but it does irritate me to see them in the Dev forum. Especially since every other post is a problem related to A2SD or not wiping on an upgrade.
This is getting offtopic.
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Right this isn't an ipod.
P.s. do the lazy/stupid owners of the almighty G1 annoy the piss out of anyone else? I see it here (a developer not a user forum), the market, other forums, etc.
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IDK if this was a jab at things not being complex, but I for one am totally in favor of a system that makes sense- i.e. being able to put music anywhere on the phone and the phone will find it.
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IDK if this was a jab at things not being complex, but I for one am totally in favor of a system that makes sense- i.e. being able to put music anywhere on the phone and the phone will find it.
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I'm not, then you get ringtones being played etc, if I could have my ringtone on another partition etc it wouldn't matter but normal system apps don't find or use ringtones from anywhere else but on the sdcard
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I'm not, then you get ringtones being played etc, if I could have my ringtone on another partition etc it wouldn't matter but normal system apps don't find or use ringtones from anywhere else but on the sdcard
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Not at all. I mean with android, or most mp3 players all you do is drag and drop. With the ipod you need to download the music, convert, add to itunes, connect device, wait for sync, or something to that effect (never used an ipod, not into marketing hype or using a product JUST because it's trendy).
It's just linux/android is so simple to use, just most people are so used to the backwards ways of microsoft, or apple, that they don't stop to think that it juat may be that simple.
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Not at all. I mean with android, or most mp3 players all you do is drag and drop. With the ipod you need to download the music, convert, add to itunes, connect device, wait for sync, or something to that effect (never used an ipod, not into marketing hype or using a product JUST because it's trendy).
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You just said what I said in a previous comment where I said "a convulted process", it's not that linux or any of the MP3 players offer a simple process but Apple makes the process convulted for their own ends to lock the user into their devices and software.
resurrecting an oldish thread instead of starting a new one.
Most of my music is copied over onto my G1. Sometimes it finds album art and sometimes it doesn't. I can't seem to get manually copied thumbnail pics to be recognized by the music or htcmusic apps. Is there a way to fill in missing album art?
What I do, since I've had all my music organized on itunes, is add it to iTunes
And have it automatically search for the album art.
If i can't find it just go to google and search for the artist and album in images
And drag and drop to the song.
OR
Right Click and select get info,
And on the last tab I believe is the album art.
And just copy and paste, or drag and drop from the browser, the album art..
From there just drag and drop the song to your SD card, pretty easy..
And for the people saying its a convoluted process, its not.
Just double click the song, or add the song to iTunes, connect the iPod and it automatically syncs.
Or like I do and manually manage my iPod, just drag and drop.
Simple.
I ran into this problem recently and found a unified solution. My ipod uses Rockbox so it syncs with music players the same way my G1 does. I use iTunes to keep my library organized and for importing new music and getting album artwork and then use winamp to sync it to my phone and ipod. Since doing it this way I have no problems with missing artwork or any other syncing issues.
these both sound look good ideas but I'd have to actually commit to an application for managing my library. My wife has Itunes set up for her ipod and I've always hated Itunes. I suppose there is a way to have two separate libraries for two different users and their assorted devices in Itunes? or maybe not.
I was able to pull album art in winamp for my files, so maybe I can sync just the albums I need to update.
MP3 to G1
I use Sailing Media Sync to add music on my G1. You can choose what playlist from itunes you want to have it synced with. It transfers the album art as well.
http://www.salling.com/MediaSync/Mac/
I prefer this than dragging and dropping. This is for the Mac but I do think they came out with a PC version.
So I use iTunes to download podcasts (both audio and video) constantly. Can't live without it even
I want to dump my iPhone and swap to my Fuze full-time, but one of the major issues I'm having is finding a Podcast replacement. iTunes does a nice job in updating, downloading, and managing (auto-deleting) old podcasts. I actually have ~8GB in podcasts on my iPhone right now. So Podcasting is big for me for entertainment and news
I've found numerous solutions for just about everything else, but no one seems to have an easy answer for podcasting --
The closest I can think is setting WM to sync my podcast iTunes folder to my WM micro SD card (if that link is even possible) and then using windows mobile's interface to try and play them.
Does anyone have a better solution? Paid or free, it doesn't matter. I'm all for paying a one-time fee to download a nice podcast manager
Most Podcasts have a matching RSS feed and most RSS readers support the audio files contained in the feed. I personally use NewsBreak by Illium Software. OEM version is RSS hub. Which is floating around XDA and is cooked into a lot of the roms. It allows you to decide how many you want to keep of each feed as well so you don't overload your storage card.
I'm using Beyond Pod. It's free and works good.
I agree with rangie, Beyond Pod does a great job.
You can sync nearly any storage device w/ iTunes...
http://lifehacker.com/5273791/synchronize-nearly-any-storage-device-with-itunes
I use BeyondPod to catch podcasts, and Kinoma FreePlay to listen, but it took a few tries to get the settings right:
In BeyondPod, I set it to automatically turn on wifi and download new podcasts in the middle of the night, then turn off wifi an hour later. I think I have it set to keep podcasts for 9 days -- haven't found an equivalent to iTunes' ability to delete from a playlist once it's been listened to, but this works well enough.
I have every feed save the podcasts to the same folder. In Kinoma FreePlay, I have that folder saved as a favorite. That way, I can listen to podcasts in the car and go from one to the next, even in different feeds, without touching the phone.
With iTunes and an iPod, I could do all this much easier with a smart playlist. No such luck on WM, at least not with freeware.
So my father and step mother recently got new Android phone, they both got Evo 4G's. My father has been working non stop to get his wife's music and audio books setup so that it's really easy to make playlist, sync them, play them back, etc. He has used WMP, had issues with that, so I suggested DoubleTwist. He messed with it and didn't like the interface, felt that it wasn't that intuitive. I decided that I would actually mess with dT myself so that I could see if it was worth suggesting to others. I found it pretty easy to make playlist and sync them and stuff, but there is one major problem with it, it ignores track numbers. I can't get it to show me track numbers at all, and can't get it to organize track in an album by track number, and if I drag a whole album into it's own playlist, it organized in alphabetical order, I can't get it to play by track number.
Next, I decided to mess with Motorola Media Link. I never even got to the point of seeing if it will work with my N1 cause I couldn't get it to sort by album, or artist or whatever when I clicked on the column header like would happen in Windows explorer. I can accept Motorola Media Link opening in artist mode first, but I should then be able to click a song, then go and hit the album column header and it will keep the fist song selected and resort the song by album showing the other songs in the same album above and below the original selected song, but that did not happen.
I'm not even going to mess with WMP anymore as I feel that is utter s**t when it comes UI. Doubletwist makes making playlist easy, but ignores track numbers, Motorola Media link doesn't sort things properly. Are there no other truly intuitive, easy to use, fully featured media player/manager for Android devices. I feel that this is going to make it difficult for Android devices to truly win over the hearts of iPhone users, who phone's just work. As much as I hate Apple's communist control over their platform and hardware, you have to give them credit for making a phone that even the technologically inept can use and work without problems
What's wrong with just drag and drop your files? I think that's the easiest way. Don't even need any software, just plug in the cable, it pops up as mass storage, drag over your files to a folder, done
I made the iPhone to N1 jump recently myself and had some similar growing pains in the media management side of things. Although I only really care about music (not podcasts or audiobooks) and have some real anal retentive requirements for playlist management, I've found bTunes as my media player and iSyncr for media management to be a great combination.
bTunes copies the navigation of the iOS iPod app perfectly, but adds in on-the-fly playlist creation and editing under the hood.
iSyncr lets me copy over playlists directly from my iTunes account, and updates playcounts and everything when I run the program.
I'm not sure if those things will apply to your parents' needs as elegantly as they have to my own. But hopefully it might help!
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What's wrong with just drag and drop your files? I think that's the easiest way. Don't even need any software, just plug in the cable, it pops up as mass storage, drag over your files to a folder, done
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That's what my father and I do for ourselves, but that's not a good solution for my step mother who's not good with that kind of stuff and really doesn't have any desire to learn that. The ultimate goal of all this is to make it as easy as possible for her so that she can do it all without having to ask my father how or have him do.
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I made the iPhone to N1 jump recently myself and had some similar growing pains in the media management side of things. Although I only really care about music (not podcasts or audiobooks) and have some real anal retentive requirements for playlist management, I've found bTunes as my media player and iSyncr for media management to be a great combination.
bTunes copies the navigation of the iOS iPod app perfectly, but adds in on-the-fly playlist creation and editing under the hood.
iSyncr lets me copy over playlists directly from my iTunes account, and updates playcounts and everything when I run the program.
I'm not sure if those things will apply to your parents' needs as elegantly as they have to my own. But hopefully it might help!
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Thanks, I'll send the info to my father and see if that works for him. He's still trying to find a solution for the audio books though. He's does some reading on the Audible Android app that's in beta and it appears to be having issues, so he's leery of installing it. But hopefully the music aspect will work for him.
Playlists and WMP
I am the father.
The biggest issue being able to easily have the playlists show upon the phone.
It can be accomplished with WMP by manually saving the play list as an M3u, then drag and drop that to root of the music folder on the phone, then you have to delete the auto generated WPl list from the pc in order to not have the play list show up twice in the play list list. This has to be repeated each time a change is made to the list.
Wish for WMP:
Allow you to set default play list file type.
For WMP to sync the list to the phone.
Thanks for any future help or advice.
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I am the father.
The biggest issue being able to easily have the playlists show upon the phone.
It can be accomplished with WMP by manually saving the play list as an M3u, then drag and drop that to root of the music folder on the phone, then you have to delete the auto generated WPl list from the pc in order to not have the play list show up twice in the play list list. This has to be repeated each time a change is made to the list.
Wish for WMP:
Allow you to set default play list file type.
For WMP to sync the list to the phone.
Thanks for any future help or advice.
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i use fusion media player, excellent for making/viewing/playing playlists.
i dont know what format playlists are saved as, but the playlist i made in fusion works in other media players as well, like google play music, es media player, and stock gingerbread music player app.
i never even touched the playlist files, not move them, not edit or anything, idk where the file even is and my playlists work on all above mentioned players. enjoy!
i've had my Thrill for 3wks now, and I'm going nuts now trying to transfer my music to the phone and keep the iTunes playlists and songs I HAD CHECKED TO SYNC but not the songs UNCHECKED i didn't want on my iphone...
Doubletwist doesn't sync the to sd micro card, only built-in memory, itunes agent was unsuccessful... what do you guys use, if not iTunes, to sync your music w/tags and album art and all? i don't put every single mp3 i own on my phone, so i don't want to hand pick individual mp3s out of my over 3000 songs to redo the album art and sync them one by one.
i love the 3D of the Thrill, can't get enough - but android and no useful way to transition music, photos, and videos is making me think about switching back... PLEASE HELP.
Try winamp it can import from itunes and will keep playlists, and sync to sd card.
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i've had my Thrill for 3wks now, and I'm going nuts now trying to transfer my music to the phone and keep the iTunes playlists and songs I HAD CHECKED TO SYNC but not the songs UNCHECKED i didn't want on my iphone...
Doubletwist doesn't sync the to sd micro card, only built-in memory, itunes agent was unsuccessful... what do you guys use, if not iTunes, to sync your music w/tags and album art and all? i don't put every single mp3 i own on my phone, so i don't want to hand pick individual mp3s out of my over 3000 songs to redo the album art and sync them one by one.
i love the 3D of the Thrill, can't get enough - but android and no useful way to transition music, photos, and videos is making me think about switching back... PLEASE HELP.
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Have you used iSyncr?
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Have you used iSyncr?
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no to isyncr, no to $2.99
will try winamp. itunes is free, so should a solution here IMO...
Winamps should be a good app to download... lol
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Google Music
Download Google Music to the same machine that has iTunes on it. Upload the playlists that you want to have on your phone into Google Music. Install google music on your thrill. Select the playlist you want to keep available on your phone (rather than streaming from the cloud) and check the box that says "available offline" while you're connected to wifi and let it do its thing.
It works great for me, and also makes it so that I have 20000 of my songs available on every android device (or other computer) I use.
-q
I feel bad that you've had to get used to iTunes. I've done it in the past and absolutely refuse to do it again. Such a pain the ass that program...
Google Music is very nice as it does most of the hard work for you as far as albums and renaming itself. It's also a lot easier to transfer what you want to a droid device. It's also very easy to dump off the device when compared to an iPod or iPhone.
I have an 80 iPod classic. I've never used a phone as a music player besides the occasional Pandora.
i use spotify on pc
I Listen to the same music all the time, so I'm done with spotify. Gonna save loads by just buying the tracks I listen to. What sort of app do you use to listen to your music? The only thing I like with the iPhone system is that you can make a playlist in iTunes and then sync it. I hate managing that on the phone it self. Anything like that for android? Can you use google music for that, or is that only a spotifyish service?
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I Listen to the same music all the time, so I'm done with spotify. Gonna save loads by just buying the tracks I listen to. What sort of app do you use to listen to your music? The only thing I like with the iPhone system is that you can make a playlist in iTunes and then sync it. I hate managing that on the phone it self. Anything like that for android? Can you use google music for that, or is that only a spotifyish service?
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You can use Google Play Music for that.
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I Listen to the same music all the time, so I'm done with spotify. Gonna save loads by just buying the tracks I listen to. What sort of app do you use to listen to your music? The only thing I like with the iPhone system is that you can make a playlist in iTunes and then sync it. I hate managing that on the phone it self. Anything like that for android? Can you use google music for that, or is that only a spotifyish service?
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if you are very used to iTunes you can also use something like doubletwist or similar apps for your pc to sync your itunes library with your android phone. I have done this like 8 years ago when I switched from my ipod to my first android phone so I have no idea if that still works or how it is improved these days :angel: But getting rid of iTunes is a good idea anyway. Feels liberating! (don't take this too seriously)
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if you are very used to iTunes you can also use something like doubletwist or similar apps for your pc to sync your itunes library with your android phone. I have done this like 8 years ago when I switched from my ipod to my first android phone so I have no idea if that still works or how it is improved these days :angel: But getting rid of iTunes is a good idea anyway. Feels liberating! (don't take this too seriously)
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Not used to iTunes. Just like how you can make playlists in it Don't like google music as an app. But I buy music there. Have started to use MediaMonkey. It syncs nicely. And its both a desktop and phone app. But it has waaay more options that I need and feels a bit cluttery. Would love a simpler option
Well I personally just keep my music in folders on my PC and copy it to the phones SD card if there is something new. And since I have everything on my SD card I never have to sync anything - even when I switch phones. I'm an offline freak though, I need all my music physically on a card and I need it all with me all the time (I'm a musician and music teacher so it's a special situation I guess but I really do need a lot of it for work too). Also you never know when you're in a tunnel somewhere and you need that Pink Floyd fix!
Currently I use the Xperia Music app btw (link) and make my playlists directly on the phone.
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Well I personally just keep my music in folders on my PC and copy it to the phones SD card if there is something new. And since I have everything on my SD card I never have to sync anything - even when I switch phones. I'm an offline freak though, I need all my music physically on a card and I need it all with me all the time (I'm a musician and music teacher so it's a special situation I guess but I really do need a lot of it for work too). Also you never know when you're in a tunnel somewhere and you need that Pink Floyd fix!
Currently I use the Xperia Music app btw (link) and make my playlists directly on the phone.
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MediaMonkey is also offline Would love to use the stock music app actually. But making playlists on the phone is annoying. I need a computer when doing stuff like that
Edit: Wasn't bad at all using the stock app! Just so used to the spotify app and its horrible! bye bye mediamonkey Thanks!