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Cannot access hidden Wifi / Non-broadcasting SSID with the HTC TyTn II Kaiser

Hi there,
Can someone please help by advising me on how to overcome this problem.
If I broadcast my SSID, the device connects fine, but when I stop broadcasting, the device will show that the network is unavailable. Even though I did check the "This is a hidden network" checkbox option, in the settings.
Configure Wireless Network-
Network Name: MyWirelessNetwork
Connects By: The Internet
This is a hidden network: CHECKED
Configure Wireless Authentication-
Authentication: WPA2-PSK
Data Encryption: TKIP
The Key is Automatically Provided: unchecked
Network Key: **********
Key Index: 1
Please help,... many thanks!
Kind regards,
JonD
My device is the HTC TyTn II (Kaiser) running Windows Mobile 6 Professional
Additional information about my WiFi Router:
I'm using a D-Link DI-524 wireless router that I set as a hidden network (disabled SSID broadcast).
I also enabled the MAC filtering, and of course the device's MAC address is already added to the approved list for connections, so I think there is no issue with the router or network (like I mentioned before, when I enabled the SSID broadcast all devices connect perfectly and all is good, but when I disabled the SSID broadcast, the Kaiser & the vista laptop will say the network is unavailable and can't connect).
No problems with connections at all with my other laptop that runs on XP.

Stupid question...but are you able to connect to the network with another devcie. Also have to tried running a third party program that can scan for wireless AP's from the device.

And can you connect to any other hidden network..
It might be in a really good hiding spot.

JonD said:
Hi there,
Can someone please help by advising me on how to overcome this problem.
If I broadcast my SSID, the device connects fine, but when I stop broadcasting, the device will show that the network is unavailable. Even though I did check the "This is a hidden network" checkbox option, in the settings.
Configure Wireless Network-
Network Name: MyWirelessNetwork
Connects By: Work
This is a hidden network: CHECKED
Configure Wireless Authentication-
Authentication: Open
Data Encryption: WPA2-PSK
The Key is Automatically Provided: unchecked
Network Key: **********
Key Index: 1
Please help,... many thanks!
Kind regards,
JonD
My device is the HTC TyTn II (Kaiser) running Windows Mobile 6 Professional
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Somethings wrong with what you posted. WPA2-PSK is a form of authentication, and it would use either AES or TKIP as it's method of encryption. There is no such thing as a WPA, open network (WEP, open yes, but not WPA).

gwnorth, thanks for pointing that out.... the following is the correct configuration:
Configure Wireless Network-
Network Name: MyWirelessNetwork
Connects By: The Internet
This is a hidden network: CHECKED
Configure Wireless Authentication-
Authentication: WPA2-PSK
Data Encryption: TKIP
The Key is Automatically Provided: unchecked
Network Key: **********
Key Index: 1
As for the other questions (for Arlop & ChumleyEX), I've got no problems connecting to my non-broadcast SSID network with my laptop running XP.... but I face the same problem with my other laptop that runs on vista.
of course, when I enabled the SSID broadcast, everything connects fine (the Kaiser and the vista laptop).
If anybody faced this similar problem and knows a solution, please let me know. Appreciate your help in the matter.
What is the point to have the system acknowledging that the network is hidden or not (checkbox option "This is a hidden network:" CHECKED or UNCHECKED ), but still fail to connect to it.
cheers,
JonD.

I'm not sure if this will help ...
I'm using a Netgear wireless router provided by my company which is set to an hidden network.
To set up access via my Kaiser I enter:
Setting > Connection > WiFi > Add New ...
Network name > Mynetworkname
Connects to > The internet
Hidden network > Checked
Authentication > Open
Data Encryption > WEP
The key is automatically provided > Un-Checked
Network Key > ****************************
Key Index > 1
What you haven't mentioned, but something that I needed to do ... The router needs to know my PDA mac address to allow access in its settings to support authorisation.
Since our IT department control the access rights (unless you have the password ), I do not know if the mac address information is a company protocol or part of a 'hidden network' setting.
PS. I always keep the WEP key in a text file on the PDA to copy and paste, because it's too troublesome to type it out each time I change the ROM's and have to set it up again.
I hope this helps.

JonD said:
gwnorth, thanks for pointing that out.... the following is the correct configuration:
Configure Wireless Network-
Network Name: MyWirelessNetwork
Connects By: The Internet
This is a hidden network: CHECKED
Configure Wireless Authentication-
Authentication: WPA2-PSK
Data Encryption: TKIP
The Key is Automatically Provided: unchecked
Network Key: **********
Key Index: 1
As for the other questions (for Arlop & ChumleyEX), I've got no problems connecting to my non-broadcast SSID network with my laptop running XP.... but I face the same problem with my other laptop that runs on vista.
of course, when I enabled the SSID broadcast, everything connects fine (the Kaiser and the vista laptop).
If anybody faced this similar problem and knows a solution, please let me know. Appreciate your help in the matter.
What is the point to have the system acknowledging that the network is hidden or not (checkbox option "This is a hidden network:" CHECKED or UNCHECKED ), but still fail to connect to it.
cheers,
JonD.
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Sounds to me like you have a network issue, not a Kaiser issue since you said your having the same issues on Vista.
I do not broadcast my SSID and my tilt has no problems connecting.

Maybe you have MAC-address filtering enabled?
I have seen routers giving problems with MAC-filtering disabled and SSID broadcasting disabled.
Devices that had a working connection, disconnected when we disabled SSID-broadcast.
Strange, but enabling the MAC-address filter list solved that.

To ajs007, jallenclark & johanromijn thank you for your replies.
I'm using a D-Link DI-524 wireless router that I set as a hidden network (disabled SSID broadcast).
I also enabled the MAC filtering, and of course the device's MAC address is already added to the approved list filter for connections, so I think there is no issue with the router or network (like I mentioned before, when I enabled the SSID broadcast all devices connect perfectly and all is good, but when I disabled the SSID broadcast, the Kaiser & the vista laptop will say the network is unavailable and can't connect).
ajs007, do you think different authentication protocols (you use WEP, but I use WPA-PSK) make any difference?
jallenclark, is there anything you did differently?
Thanks.
JonD

I have the same issue with mine. I cannot connect to a hidden network....initially.
I turned on SSID broadcast, the Tilt connect immediately and then unchecked the SSID Broadcast.
Now it connects always.
Seems like it should work.. other devices connect fine as long as the name is specified.

online142154 said:
I have the same issue with mine. I cannot connect to a hidden network....initially.
I turned on SSID broadcast, the Tilt connect immediately and then unchecked the SSID Broadcast.
Now it connects always.
Seems like it should work.. other devices connect fine as long as the name is specified.
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Sadly, I tried that, connects immediately when the SSID is broadcast, and while it remains connected, I turn off the broadcast and the device lost connectivity immediately too.
Man... I don't understand this......
here are some more info (ROM version and stuff), just in case you guys out there can help figure this out...... many thanks!
ROM version: 2.50.771.0 WWE
ROM Date: 10 March 2008
Radio version: 1.27.15.32
Protocol version: 22.51.88.13H

I have similar problem, Hermes with wm6.1. When my router is set up to use WEP I have no problem to connect, but I prefer WPA2-PSK and my PDA gets stuck on "connecting".
My iBook and a PC laptop can connect without problem...and so does my buddy's iPhone...

Change the radio version. try flashing a radio that end in 36. xD

i have similar problem with my x1. radio version ends with 18. firmware version is R2AA010. exists one with newer radio? thx.

Works on mine?
I went to a customer site recently where they were deploying a Wireless LAN. As they were using a hidden SSID & WPA2-PSK & AES I tested it with my Kaiser and after a couple of attempts it connected OK (I think typos on my part were why it took two attempts..).
Hidden SSID's are pretty useless anyway as they are easy to discover. I think beefing up the back end security is a much better option - use WPA2 with PEAP or EAP-TLS instead of just hiding the SSID and using Pre-Shared-Keys. If the key is leaked then think of the number of devices you need to manually reconfigure.
Andy

A task for wifi experts!

my school has wifi called UCM-WiFi-Secured i go through the settings for the wifi
Authentication: Open
Data Encryption: WEP (check key auto provided), i have tried all security options and none work
next
Then i can either leave Use IEEE 802.1x network access control check box unchecked which sends me to a Enter username/password/domain and i do so with correct information and get an error message saying i need a personal certificate
or i check the box for IEEE 802.1x, select peap and click properties and it says Cannot log on to the wireless network. this network requires a personal certificate to postitively identify you.
Below is a link to connect using vista. An iphone works fine! Anyone have any ideas? Im lost
www.ucmo.edu/Documents/is/wirelessvista.pdf
thank you
Brett

Same problem on the Raphael and maybe all WM devices regarding the questions here in other parts of the forum...
As i can see so far: no solution

WLAN Problem Diamond

ok, first of all, i checked every single thread on this page hoping to get a solution for my problem.
HTC Diamond, D-Link DWL-900AP+ Access Point.
My Diamond can "see" the Access Point, but is unable to connect with it.
Authentification WPA-PSK
Encryption TKIP
Networkkey Manually inserted and 100% correct.
Hook set at IEEE802.1x
EAP Typ = Smartcard or security certificate (but it's greyed out)
Network Card connects to Internet
From Server given IP Adress (hook set) DHCP on Access Point enabled
MAC Filters disabled
I also played around with the available network tabs.
I have vodafone DE, vodafone internet, company network or ISP
The the slider of the energy saving modus ist set to best performance.
What the hell is going wrong????
I also owe a HTC Touch Elfin and have no problems to access my network/internet.
Any suggestions would be highly appreciated
thank you

try deleting your network saved setting from list, make sure network card connects to internet, not work, find access point, and enter your password again.
this works for me in similar situations.
works if you start fresh, and not trying to connect with the same settings. i dont know why but has saved my ass a few times.

Also, try changing the encryption from TKIP to AES and see if that works....

I have the same problem! It's something about DHCP. My Diamond connects to my home wifi onli if I set the IP (which belongs to my phone on access point) address in the properties of network adapter.

HI did you try to put the host address of a site?
write 64.233.167.99 instead of google.it in case you can see the page the problem is the dns not resolved and insert manually in your phone connection

Marcellus_pnz said:
I have the same problem! It's something about DHCP. My Diamond connects to my home wifi onli if I set the IP (which belongs to my phone on access point) address in the properties of network adapter.
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Same here, it looks like a DHCP time-out or routing problem. I've set up a DHCP server with a small pool of adresses on the acces point itself and now my Diamond always connects correctly. Before that, my Diamond would state that i had entered a invalid security key.

diamond connects but i cannot visit any website
Hi,
I have a similar problem. My diamond gets an ip address from dhcp, connects to dwl-900ap+ but i am not able to open any website (I tried to open some web with url and with its ip address too) - tried opera and IE too. In opera i get a "could not locate remote server" error. (Looks like a DNS problem?) I am not even able to open the AP's configuration web with diamond. Every other wifi enabled equipment I tried (1 notebook with win vista, 1 with XP, 1 with debian linux, nokia n95 with symbian and e-ten m700 with win mobile 5) works without a single problem. I also tried to reset the AP and my diamond - without success.
I didn't change any setting on the AP except for setting up a WEP encryption (i know, i know, it's not a strong encryption ), the SSID and the AP's ip address. Everything else is default. My dhcp server is not the access point. DHCP runs on a similarly configured router with wifi AP (diamond connects without problem).
Any idea/solution? thanks

wifi & secure w2 certificate problem! which rom?

hello everybody,
i am having huge problems connecting to my university`s wifi (tu-clausthal in germany). i installed secure w2 newest version and the required certificates from my university. i configured everything according to the guidelines. however, i cannot connect to the wifi network, it keeps connecting forever and nothing happens. i am 100% sure the configuration is correct, a friend of mine can connect with the exact same config. also i can connect to any other wifi network, no matter if wep, wpa, etc. only havin problems with the certificates, it seems.
now my question: has anybody successfully connected to a secure w2 wifi network? if so, which rom and which version of secure w2 did you use?
the technical support of my university doesnt know anything about windows mobile...iphone and symbian phones seem to connect without problems...
any suggestions?
edit: i am using AtheniOS rom wm 6.1

Same problem connecting to a w2 on my AT&T Tilt. My company was running a linksys standard WPA but installed a WPA2 a few months ago. My IT department tried to help but they don't know windows mobile and AT&T tech support was useless. I have a WPA2 option in my wireless menu but I can't connect??? I'll get looking and will post if I find anythink.

hmm too bad. as i said, one of my friends can connect without problems....

With WPA2 Enterprise (not WPA2-PSK) Windows Mobile allows only EAP-TLS & PEAP Authentication, the authentication type will be configured on a central RADIUS server(s). With EAP-TLS you MUST have a personal certificate on the device as well as the Root CA's certificate. The client certificate must also have the 'Client Authentication' attribute. The Root CA certificate will generally have the 'All Purposes' attribute. With PEAP you have the option to use either a Certificate or Username/Password to identifiy the user - you would normally use Username/Password, however the RADIUS Server always identifies itself to the client using a Certificate. The client has the option to ignore this certificate if it chooses, however the default is to verify it is a trusted certificate. In XP or Vista you can turn this checking off in the network settings by unchecking the box 'Validate server certificate'. In Windows Mobile there isn't a way of doing this in the GUI, however there is a registry tweak that can be set:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\EAP\Extensions\25
ValidateServerCert=0
Setting the value to 1 means check the certificate, 0 means don't check it.
Also verify the Time & Date on your device is in sync with the RADIUS server as timing is critical with PKI.
Other than that I don't know what to suggest. I sucessfully use my Kaiser with (almost) stock 5.2.19212 ROM on two WPA2 networks, one using WPA2/AES with PEAP authentication and the other using WPA2/AES & EAP-TLS - both work fine.
One more thing, check the version of the 'TNETW1251.dll' file. There appears to be at least two floating around. I have version 3.55.0.0 in my ROM.
HTH
Andy

thanks for your advice!
i just flashed the new atheniOS win 6.5 and installed the secure w2 software and now it works! i dont know why or how though

Connecting to 802.1x encrypted Wifi

My school has campus-wide wifi that is encrypted using 802.1x enterprise encryption and I can't get my N1 to connect to it. Under the wifi settings the network shows up in range, but it shows up as a WEP wifi connection which isn't the case. I can manually add a connection and choose 802.1x and configure it as it should in order to connect, however when I do that it shows up at the bottom of the list as "Not in range, remembered" despite the fact that the SSID of the same name still shows up as that incorrect WEP encrypted connection.
Has anyone successfully connected to a 802.1x encrypted connection using their N1?

Do you need to install a security cert?
My N1 doesn't arrive until tomorrow, and I haven't tried connecting to my current school's wireless network. My last school had enterprise security, and I had to install a certificate on my laptop, and special software on my Windows mobile.
If no one else gets back to you, I'll see if I can screw around tomorrow evening.
Some googlin' brought up some maybe relevant info:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=5507f5155591aeda&hl=en
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=4be67146eafe4365&hl=en

ATnTdude said:
Do you need to install a security cert?
My N1 doesn't arrive until tomorrow, and I haven't tried connecting to my current school's wireless network. My last school had enterprise security, and I had to install a certificate on my laptop, and special software on my Windows mobile.
If no one else gets back to you, I'll see if I can screw around tomorrow evening.
Some googlin' brought up some maybe relevant info:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=5507f5155591aeda&hl=en
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=4be67146eafe4365&hl=en
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i've tried a few different methods mentioned in the google forums and still no luck...
anyone able to connect using 802.1x?

with 2.1 update 1
i got it to work. not sure if that's what fixed it as my SA gave me the wrong sid the first time ... but it works great post update!

Nexus One -- Android 2.2 and 802.1x WiFi Authentication
flomid said:
My school has campus-wide wifi that is encrypted using 802.1x enterprise encryption and I can't get my N1 to connect to it. Under the wifi settings the network shows up in range, but it shows up as a WEP wifi connection which isn't the case. I can manually add a connection and choose 802.1x and configure it as it should in order to connect, however when I do that it shows up at the bottom of the list as "Not in range, remembered" despite the fact that the SSID of the same name still shows up as that incorrect WEP encrypted connection.
Has anyone successfully connected to a 802.1x encrypted connection using their N1?
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I am using a stock Nexus One on Android 2.2. I got it running by entering the following (be sure to 'FORGET' the SSID that automatically comes up in favour of manually creating it) at 'Settings' >> WiFI:
EAP method: (I can choose b.w. PEAP, TLS or TTLS) and I choose PEAP
CA certificate: no choice … merely shows in brackets (unspecified)
User certificate: (unspecified)
Identity: (I enter) [MY-USERNAME, e.g., [email protected]]
Anonymous identity: (leave blank)
Password: [MY_PASSWORD]
Our university relies on WPA2/EAP/MS-CHAP .... but in our case putting the entire username did the trick.
I believe the Android 2.1 UI is deficient and will not let you enter the above, and from what I have read those who have 'rooted' their phone (and voided their warranty) have placed something like the following wpa_supplicant.conf file in /etc/wifi :
##### wpa_supplicant configuration file template #####
update_config=1
ctrl_interface=eth0
eapol_version=1
ap_scan=1
fast_reauth=1
Network={
ssid="MY_SSID"
key_mgmt=IEEE8021X
eap=PEAP
phase2="auth=MSCHAPV2"
identity="MY_USERNAME"
password="MY_PASSWORD"
}
Some have mentioned that any certificate (e.g., Thawte) should be .p12 configuration and placed in the root directory of the SD Card. The best info for those who want to 'root' their Nexus one is Joe Levi's commentary at: http://pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/video-flashing-froyo-on-your-nexus-one
But as I stated, I have mine running the Net locally, and just need the proxy turned off by the uni. to get out.
Hope this helps.

I'm having the same issue at work. It appears as a WEP network and adding it as 802.1x says the network is not in range.
I'll give that wpa_supplicant.conf hack a go later.

I solved this issue, with the WiFi Advanced Config Editor (available in the marketplace)
my WIFI is 802.1x, with PEAP,MSCHAP v2
connect to the listed wifi with wep enabled, use any password
then modify the configuration with the WiFi Advanced Config Editor set as 802.1x, PEAP, MSCHAP v2, set user identity and password remove and remove any WAP settings
a enjoy

In my case, i have ICS 4.0, i try all suggestions above, but not work.
Someone can help me? Please