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Touchflo 3d crashes when I open the music tab

As the title says, really annoying... its been fine but now when ever I go to the music tab in Touchflow 3d, touchflo has to restart.. tried a soft reset and turning off/on, still does it.. anyone else had this problem and fixed it without a hard reset?

Had that too... try re-encoding the files.

I too have just had this problem.
I had deleted some songs from the phone and the TouchFLo player interface said tha the somgs were stil listed.
Also, I couldn't get any pictures of the album art to appear.
I used Explore via Activesync to delet all music albums, songs, album art from the 'Internal Storage' (HTC Touch Diamond) and then did a soft reset to see if that woud prompt the phone to refresh the TouchFLo madia player interface to search again and reset its list.
That's when the ******* thing started this crashing.
Windows Media player mobile is working fine.
I have many programs installed and do not wish to hard reset unelss it is absolutley necessary.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Can't really recode as I've deleted all the music files.
Cheers for now.

Only way I could get it to work more or less properly was to sync music via media player and set it to convert to wma as it syncs. I'm still looking for alternatives as syncing with wmp is a pain.

OK, I fixed it.
I had tried using WMP to sync, but it still didn't cure the problem.
For anyone who still has this problem, please try this....
1) Go into file manager on your phone
2) Navigate to My Device > Application Data > HTC > AudioManager_Eng
3) Go into the Playlists folder and delete all playlists.
4) Exit File Manager
Try the Music application again. It should now seach for music again.
The above fixed mine.
Good luck

rowleav said:
OK, I fixed it.
I had tried using WMP to sync, but it still didn't cure the problem.
For anyone who still has this problem, please try this....
1) Go into file manager on your phone
2) Navigate to My Device > Application Data > HTC > AudioManager_Eng
3) Go into the Playlists folder and delete all playlists.
4) Exit File Manager
Try the Music application again. It should now seach for music again.
The above fixed mine.
Good luck
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I will bare this in mind for (I'm sure) when it happens again, sadly I got bored and did a hard reset before I checked replies here.

I got the same problem here. There are some mp3-files that seems to crash the Touch 3D Music app while it is scanning the Internal Storage. While it happens the whole Touch 3D is laggy. A very frustating bug I think. And syncing via WMP will only help when it (re)encodes the original MP3 to WMA. I think it's HTC who had to fix this bug.
On some files it helps to first remove all Mp3tags and than retagging them. So I think it must be something with the tags.

I have the same problem on my HTC Touch Pro.
after adding album art the music tab crashed.
I deleted all the music files (from the storage card) and tried what rowleav suggested than did a soft reset, but the music tab keeps craching........
This really s....
don't like to do a hard reset as I have a lot of software on it.
anyone knows a way to fix this ???

I have a 16 gb Micro SD card on the Touch Pro, and the Touch Flo player is really not up to the job. Selecting an album or a play list is okay, but I like to listen to music on random. Select all files and it can take 5-10 minutes for the player to display album covers. And sometimes it crashes.
Pocket Tunes handles this many files far better. But I can't get it set up to be the default music player with my HTC bluetooth headset. It still opens the Flo player.
WMP works okay if it is open, but doesn't have cross-fade. Which I like.

I fixed it
Only deleting the playlists like rowleav wrote did not work for me I also had to delete a file called "AudioManager_Eng.vol" (application data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\AudioManager_Eng.vol)
Then a soft reset isn't needed. Just go back to the music tab and it will create the AudioManager_Eng.vol file again and search for music files.
now i have to try and add my music again to find the one causing the problems. at least it's now easy to repair once it goes wrong again

Worked!
laurens23 said:
I fixed it
Only deleting the playlists like rowleav wrote did not work for me I also had to delete a file called "AudioManager_Eng.vol" (application data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\AudioManager_Eng.vol)
Then a soft reset isn't needed. Just go back to the music tab and it will create the AudioManager_Eng.vol file again and search for music files.
now i have to try and add my music again to find the one causing the problems. at least it's now easy to repair once it goes wrong again
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This worked beautifully! Thanx!

I'm having the same issue - with a crash every time I go to the music tab. I was having problems deleting the AudioManager_Eng.vol file. I did a soft reset to delete the file, and now all seems to be working as it re-builds the library.

i have a similar problem but tf3d hangs when i want to stop the musicplayer and select another tab. only 'start' still works so i can stop and restart tf3d but when i finish listening to music the ritual starts over.
any suggestions ? (i removed the mentioned files but that didn't fixe it).

how the covers & music works in diamond?

i can't understand if i can have all my albums listed in the T3D and choose them [like the photos] or i can just see the songs are playing...
Now i put two albums and i see just one cover [every song has the sam cover obviously...]
how does it works?
isn'it a kind of library?

hey
yes you can just download the free software mp3tag and add your foto save and put into the internal storage
ciao

yep.. but... in the music tab can't i see ALL the albums loaded in the diamond? or just the "playing" one?

IMHO, you should forget the inbuilt music tab, download S2P from these forums and use that!!!!

i've tried it.
i don't like it all.
why should i use something like the iphone??

when you need look all album you must create playlist with all song in your diamond and then you look all album image in TF3D, bud for skip to other album, you must skip all song in previous album.
Better soft is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377627

HFX9 said:
when you need look all album you must create playlist with all song in your diamond and then you look all album image in TF3D, bud for skip to other album, you must skip all song in previous album.
Better soft is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377627
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no this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408510
this build is compatible with diamond!

anubis.genix said:
no this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408510
this build is compatible with diamond!
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i use S2P v0.40 on my diamond and all work great.
in your trhead is only exe file no install cab !!

just place a JPEG image called "folder.jpg" in the folder of the album. That works for me on virtually _every_ application I use that supports cover art:
HTC Manila Audio Player
S2P 0.41e
XBMC - completely off topic ;-)
So I have it all-in-one...
BTW: I don't use WMP to sync my music to my device - i simply copy the folders over to the device. Wether it's done via ActiveSync or USB HDD mode doesn't make a difference for me.
As stated before the HTC Manila audio player places a rescaled version of the image right next to it in the same folder. S2P also seems to place some files in there...

THank you!
dajudge01 said:
just place a JPEG image called "folder.jpg" in the folder of the album. That works for me on virtually _every_ application I use that supports cover art:
HTC Manila Audio Player
S2P 0.41e
XBMC - completely off topic ;-)
So I have it all-in-one...
BTW: I don't use WMP to sync my music to my device - i simply copy the folders over to the device. Wether it's done via ActiveSync or USB HDD mode doesn't make a difference for me.
As stated before the HTC Manila audio player places a rescaled version of the image right next to it in the same folder. S2P also seems to place some files in there...
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THis workaround really worked! Thank you!

So far, no one has answered the original poster's question.
The answer to your question diamondino is whatever is in the Now Playing list in HTC Audio Manager is what will show up in the Manila audio player. You can create a playlist containing anything you want (i.e. all your music) and it will all show up in the 3D player. Or, if you just select an album from your library and press play, it will automatically add that album to Now Playing, and that's what will show in the 3D player.
Unfortunately, there is no way to scroll through albums on the 3D player, only songs in a playlist.

HTC Audio Manager crashing (this with two different Dimond, 3 different HSPL, 4 OSs)

Hi All,
A few days ago, a client of mine brought me back his diamond saying that the music player was not working.
After more than 8 hours of trying to fix this issue by trying everything I could find on this forum and every possible solution my imagination could think of, I'm left no other choice than asking the community for help.
When ever I put a large amount of files on the storage card (around 3Gb) and use the TF3D interface to play the music, Audiomanger_eng.exe crashes (sometime other files crash but I forgot the names).
Now, I have tried pretty much everything:
1. I tried both WMP 11 to transfer the files and the direct copy/paste of the files to the storage card.
2. I tried putting another set of songs coming from a different PC
3. I tried having all the songs together in the same folder (that caused even more issues as album arts were overlapping) and I tried the WMP function to get each songs in its correct subfolder (ie: artist... Album...).
4. I tried deleting the database file of the AudioManager (which causes it to rescan all the files which it does but then crashes as it tries to play certain songs)
5. I tried on two different Diamonds, using 1.93 in English (HK), 1.93 in French, TOM_DiamondProject_v3.2, Dutty's latest rom. Through this I tried the original HARD SPL of HTC and also Olinex and another guy's one. (All the test I did using these various ROM created approximatively the same error though varied slightly from one ROM to the other)
6. I have also tried a million soft reset and hard resets.
7. I have tried loading the music in Windows Media Player Mobile which works perfectly but does not change anything to the problem I have with the TF3D player.
8. Following stevedpl7's comment, I went in the file explorer, created a new folder called My Music, then I cut and paste all the music from Storage/Music to Storage/My Music, went to the application data/HTC/AudioManager_eng/ and deleted the database file: AudioManager_Eng.vol, then I did a soft reset. When I now go to the music Tab, it crashes before I even get a chance to play a song. In the music list, I can see all the transferred files.
9. And many other small things....
Any idea or suggestions?

Just a quick question about where you are putting the music files?
I have exactly the same problem if i save my music foldes to Internal Storage\Music (which is where WMP saves them by default)
However when i created a 'My Music' folder in the Internal Storage\My Documents All worked fine. So Try....
Internal Storage\My Documents\My Music\''your music here''
As i said you may well have to create the 'My Music' folder, on my Diamond only My Pictures and My Videos were there by default.
Hope this helps.

I have the same problem, the only thing I can put it down to is the new 1.93 ROM from HTC, as it was working fine until I flashed the phone with this ROM.
I have tried the solutions above and it still isn't working, so if anybody else has further ideas please let me know, if not I'll wait for the official word back from HTC and post their solutions up here also.

Sadly, it didn't work either for me
Thanks you Stevedpl7 for the info, sadly I have tried and the problem even got worse
I went in the file explorer, created a new folder called My Music, then I cut and paste all the music from Storage/Music to Storage/My Music, went to the application data/HTC/AudioManager_eng/ and deleted the database file: AudioManager_Eng.vol, then I did a soft reset.
When I now go to the music Tab, it crashes before I even get a chance to play a song. I the music list, I can see all the transfered files.

Are those files made from scratch on your or the customer's PC, or were they downloaded from the Internet? I know that some downloaded MP3s are defective, furthermore some players do not understand all variations of the MP3-format like VBR, joint stereo et al. There is no strict "standard" for MP3, the technology has developed over the years and no one has made an attempt to define "levels" as they did with MPG-2 or with DivX. So there is always a level of uncertainty whether a player is able to play all files. A resampling with a MP3-software or even converting them from MP3 to WMA might help.
It's always a good idea to use WMP on the PC to create MP3 or WMA. Not because it excels in quality, but because it uses very standard features in the format.
Have fun!

Lost_in_translation said:
Are those files made from scratch on your or the customer's PC, or were they downloaded from the Internet? I know that some downloaded MP3s are defective, furthermore some players do not understand all variations of the MP3-format like VBR, joint stereo et al. There is no strict "standard" for MP3, the technology has developed over the years and no one has made an attempt to define "levels" as they did with MPG-2 or with DivX. So there is always a level of uncertainty whether a player is able to play all files. A resampling with a MP3-software or even converting them from MP3 to WMA might help.
It's always a good idea to use WMP on the PC to create MP3 or WMA. Not because it excels in quality, but because it uses very standard features in the format.
Have fun!
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They are mainly downloaded MP3s and a few WMAs. When I transfer the files using WMP, some are converted. The thing is that all these files work fine in Windows Media Player on the Phone.

I just realised that there is a possibility that if your MP3's has the album artwork embedded into the files. the audio manager would crash.
currently i'm doing a trial and error of it and have yet to fully test everything out just yet.
would anyone like to comment or verify if the embedded artwork might be the cause of crashes?

I think you are right. I have tried putting one song with the artwork embeded and it crashes the software!!!

erm. and yet. i did manage to sneak in one album with an embedded artwork. :\
but that was 1. i tried it with another album with the embedded artwork and had a crash.

I'm now thinking about giving up and installing TF3D config tool to hide the music tab and then install the old audio manager to play the music
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407145&highlight=audiomanager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405749
This is painful...

just spent 3 hours trying to figure out which mp3's work and which doesnt.
like wth... i dont get it. someone please assist in explaining how audio manager works ?

Same problem here, anyone knows how to solve this?

Note even the original demo tunes work
Audiomanager worked fine before (1.37 ROM), but when I updated to 1.93.413.3 SVE not even the "built in" demo tunes work. It just hangs on the first tune... Removing the .vol file does not solve the problem. Windows Media player can play the tunes without problems.

Use MP3Tag to mass delete all coveralbum info from your MP3 files on the PC side and then resync everything back using WMP. This solved all freezing problems with the TF Audio Manager for me. MP3Tag can be found here: http://www.mp3tag.de/

coredump said:
Use MP3Tag to mass delete all coveralbum info from your MP3 files on the PC side and then resync everything back using WMP. This solved all freezing problems with the TF Audio Manager for me. MP3Tag can be found here: http://www.mp3tag.de/
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Confirmed that this method does work

Works but people embed album art coz they want it to show up in the AudioManager in the first place. Now the only way to do is, is to extract the album art, rename it to folder.jpg and put it in the song's album folder. This is a really huge hassle especially if u've got tons of files embedded with album art....

Did you find a solution in the end ?
This issue is not tolerable for such a ppc... .
So if I happen to copy too many albums or mp3 files, my phone would crash and won't be the music ?

cornwall said:
Did you find a solution in the end ?
This issue is not tolerable for such a ppc... .
So if I happen to copy too many albums or mp3 files, my phone would crash and won't be the music ?
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U have to remove your embedded album art from your mp3 first before transferring, and then extract that album art and put it in the same folder as the mp3 with the name folder.jpg. A huge hassle for people who have a huge collection of mp3s with embedded artwork.
Anyways, I've written to HTC Tech Support about this and "strongly suggested" to them a ROM update for this issue.

Audio Manager crash with mp3 in VBR mode ! I've converted my mp3 in CBR mode, and all went ok !

Is there a better solution to this than removing the embedded artwork?

ahhhh music libary

Hi all,
got something that's driving me crazy, i can sync my music with windows media player fine and the music copies across as it should however when i come to play the music with touchflo 3d it only shows the first lot of music i put on.
I cannot seem to figure out how to refresh the libray on touchflo 3d...
does anyone have the answer for me?
thanks

If you tap 'Library', then slide accross to Albums... do your recently synced items show up there?

I am having this problem too
I cannot see any of my music in TF3D music player

no nothing is showing up i resynced all my music with media player and still nothing shows, it nows says no music found.
there must be a better way to sort the library.
there shouldnt be this hassle just to put music on the phone!

I think you require too much for a phone so cheap.
Try the advantage,or wait for HD.

htcenrico said:
I think you require too much for a phone so cheap.
Try the advantage,or wait for HD.
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i want your job if you consider this to be (a phone so cheap)
you get paid too much.
on the plus side to the normally challenged people out there , you have to update the library in windows media player, then go into library on touchflo 3D, select all songs and play the first track it then updates all the tracks for you.

waz000000 said:
you have to update the library in windows media player, then go into library on touchflo 3D, select all songs and play the first track it then updates all the tracks for you.
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thannks man, this has been driving me crazy - talk about a flaw in the system!
Will

Delete Application Data/HTC/AudioManager/AudioManager_Eng.vol and do soft reset.
this will rescann your complete library.
i got the same problem and this helped

I still cannot get it to work - all my music syncs of from media player and I can play it on media player on the diamond but on TF3D it just hangs on Searching!!!
If i delete all my media and load 1 song it works fine if I do the above deleting of the HTC application folder but if I then try to add some more it does not work!!
Has anyone got this working? or is it just me?????

nicko666 said:
I still cannot get it to work - all my music syncs of from media player and I can play it on media player on the diamond but on TF3D it just hangs on Searching!!!
If i delete all my media and load 1 song it works fine if I do the above deleting of the HTC application folder but if I then try to add some more it does not work!!
Has anyone got this working? or is it just me?????
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prob just you lol, works for me try this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397819&highlight=tf3d+music+albums

just add the music to internal storage yourself? :S works fine for me

nope didn't work...must be just me!!
I have moved to S2P but its a shame i wanted to use the built in stuff

I had the same problems too. Until I read and followed the instructions for adding songs and album art and updating the library on TF3D.
Now for the enchilada!! Does anyone know how you can update windows media's library (once you have added more songs to the Diamond from PC) and set it to search in a particular folder instead of adding all the media files on the phone(tomtom files, alert & warning sounds and the like) to your music library. Only solution thus far more is to delete these files every time i update, which is now getting a bit tiring .
Any help or suggestions welcomed.

Looking for HTC AudioManager with Album Art Support

I've searched high and low for this and can not find it. All I am finding is the HTC Audio Manager without album art support. Does anyone know where it is?
It looks like that the Dutty's ROM has HTC AudioManager_1_2-1212.716 that has album art but I cant find the cab for it.
Does it not exist?
Please help.

If this is what you are referring to.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388947
He has a screenshot of Windows media player with Audio manager skin. See in the picture at the top is says "WINDOWS MEDIA". There is no HTC Audio Manager with Album Art as far as I know unless you have Diamond or Touch Pro with Touch flo 3d.
However, you might find something interesting in the Touch Flo 2d forums
Do a search for Touch flo 2d or manila 2d

ok I see. I was taken in by the AudioManager look and not realized it was just a WMP skin.
Thanks for the info. I'll take a look at the manila 2d stuff.

Why do you want audiomanager with Album art support anyway when you can use Windows media that already has album cover support. Or S2P with Album cover support, or TCPMP with album cover support or..... There are many to choose from is what I am saying. You don't have to limit yourself to Audiomanager.

I like the finger friendly interface of AudioManager. WMP is not finger friendly.
I will check out the rest of the apps that were mentioned.
Thanks

As said earlier, you might want to take a look into TouchFlo 2D / Manila...
I just flashed the lastest Garmin ROM with Manila, and it has Audio Manager with Cover Albums. So maybe in the Manila Thread you will find the CAB for this version of Audio Manager (version 2 build 1819.2129, thats what i have).
I also love Audio Manager compared to WMP or CorePlayer, and also it works great with my remote control.

I also Use Mort Player for in the car as it has some really nice big finger friendly buttons + Supports album cover as well. Mort Player is also free
edit: for mort player just download skins from the mort player web page to get the skin for car to get the big buttons skin

guigui42 said:
As said earlier, you might want to take a look into TouchFlo 2D / Manila...
I just flashed the lastest Garmin ROM with Manila, and it has Audio Manager with Cover Albums. So maybe in the Manila Thread you will find the CAB for this version of Audio Manager (version 2 build 1819.2129, thats what i have).
I also love Audio Manager compared to WMP or CorePlayer, and also it works great with my remote control.
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I just flashed the Garmin 4.3a rom and my Covert Art does not work in Audio Manager. How did you get it to work? Do you need a jpg in the album folder called something specific?

australo said:
I just flashed the Garmin 4.3a rom and my Covert Art does not work in Audio Manager. How did you get it to work? Do you need a jpg in the album folder called something specific?
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Yes. Call the jpg "cover" or "folder" One or the other or maybe both will work. Then place the album cover jpg in the album folder. This is the same with WMP - S2P and TCPMP. TCPMP will show some embedded album art sometimes too and I thing so will S2P

hotrod101 said:
Yes. Call the jpg "cover" or "folder" One or the other or maybe both will work. Then place the album cover jpg in the album folder. This is the same with WMP - S2P and TCPMP. TCPMP will show some embedded album art sometimes too and I thing so will S2P
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Thanks hotrod! Mine were named cover.jpg and they need to be folder.jpg . Guess I have some renaming to do....

hotrod101 said:
If this is what you are referring to.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388947
He has a screenshot of Windows media player with Audio manager skin. See in the picture at the top is says "WINDOWS MEDIA". There is no HTC Audio Manager with Album Art as far as I know unless you have Diamond or Touch Pro with Touch flo 3d.
However, you might find something interesting in the Touch Flo 2d forums
Do a search for Touch flo 2d or manila 2d
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i just used this added this skin to WMP and i love it. It seems like WMP works a hell of a lot better than htc audio manager when it comes to bluetooth headphones. i simply had a lot of problems w/ audio manager.
BUT...does anyone know if there's anyway to actually arrange the songs in WMP by the actual song name itself, in alphabetical order? i must say i HATE that, it makes going to a particular song extremely time consuming especiallying since there's no search function or anything

simbadogg said:
i just used this added this skin to WMP and i love it. It seems like WMP works a hell of a lot better than htc audio manager when it comes to bluetooth headphones. i simply had a lot of problems w/ audio manager.
BUT...does anyone know if there's anyway to actually arrange the songs in WMP by the actual song name itself, in alphabetical order? i must say i HATE that, it makes going to a particular song extremely time consuming especiallying since there's no search function or anything
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You might want to look for a play list editor of some sort. There are several available that I have seen. I only tried one and honestly don't use it that much so don't really know if I can arrange songs alphabetically
OK I just checked. the Play list Manager I am using can sort the songs alphabetically. I will try to find the link to where I found it but you can try to search yourself it is called Vicsoft PlaylistMgr. If I can't find the link I will look for my copy of the cab and post it here later.

OK I tried doing the obvious searches and not a single hit and I don't have the patience tonight to keep searching online for the link. I really wish I could give credit to the author of this freeware app.
Here is my copy of the cab. It was easier for me to find then I thought.
have fun with it.
edit: I found the link http://mobile-sg.com/software/?p=PlaylistMgr&platform=ppc
Check it out (Lots of screenshots and information and if you feel that this app is worthy of a donation - The author is accepting donations.

thanx for the help man. i download the program, and i can't get it to work at all. it wont open playlists, it'll search for playlists but then wont allow me to open it or edit it. and it wont allow me to save any playlists. i guess i'll have to live w/out alphabetical playlists for a while longer.

hey i downloaded the newer/larger/possibly non corrupted version on their website. finally got everything up and running...even finished all the playlists for the 30+ albums i have on my microSD card. thanx for the help man.

stupid browser, sorry for the double post