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Fastest WM 6.5 out there?

I already tried Dutty 3.3 (wm 6.1) and Miri 10.0. Miri is a really nice rom but i want something new. I already read all the rom threads.
My two questions are:
1). What is the fastest WM 6.1 rom out there?
2). What is the fastest WM 6.5 rom out there?
Thanks in advance,
Arjen

agroote said:
I already tried Dutty 3.3 (wm 6.1) and Miri 10.0. Miri is a really nice rom but i want something new. I already read all the rom threads.
My two questions are:
1). What is the fastest WM 6.1 rom out there?
2). What is the fastest WM 6.5 rom out there?
Thanks in advance,
Arjen
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When you say you want something new... What do you mean by new? What features do you want it to have? Speed? Battery? Features such as Facebook?
For each feature theres usually a downside, like for more speed, less battery.. more programs installed, less battery etc.
I've been using 3 roms specifically which are brilliant... NRGZ latest rom, which is lightning fast 6.1 rom but is on the old SPL 1.14. He is trying to update it but his HD is buggered so we're waiting for that to come live.
Onkologs 6.1 and 6.5 come with two options, lite or superlite. Superlite is obviously the bare minimums with no Manila, so you can install SPB Shell and have the touch interface working well.
Lite has Manila and all the features you'd expect like in a normal stock rom.
Battery is excellent in these roms, I normally get 3 days with moderate use, calls, internet, messaging. Speed is really fast too and if you want to add more on, you just install as you go.
All roms are very reliable though really.

for me features r more important than battery life. I love duttys 3.3 but it eats so much memory that I had to switch to miri's 10 recently. only issue for me is now the alarm.

akash_nu said:
for me features r more important than battery life. I love duttys 3.3 but it eats so much memory that I had to switch to miri's 10 recently. only issue for me is now the alarm.
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What features is it that you like particularly?

Onkologs 6.5 Superlite. Very fast, you know its fast when the windows folder opens in around 1second!
Has a very cool all black menu system, which is a smaller size than normal, which is great for fitting all the menu options in one window. And still finger friendly.
The start menu is in four columns, and unlike some other roms is not restricted/locked....So thru activesync you can create new folders and organise the start screen.
With such a bare and fast rom you can install what you want.
Lite has manilla
Superlite has Titanium...which I like way more than the bloated manila
Mick

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I was a flash junkie before but now i have settled down...
Gasman said:
Onkologs 6.5 Superlite. Very fast, you know its fast when the windows folder opens in around 1second!
Has a very cool all black menu system, which is a smaller size than normal, which is great for fitting all the menu options in one window. And still finger friendly.
The start menu is in four columns, and unlike some other roms is not restricted/locked....So thru activesync you can create new folders and organise the start screen.
With such a bare and fast rom you can install what you want.
Lite has manilla
Superlite has Titanium...which I like way more than the bloated manila
Mick
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No USPL 2.5?
Ok, i'm convinced. I want to flash Onkologs 6.5 Superlite version to my phone. I usually flashed with USPL 2.5. Onkolog states it's possible to flash with USP 2.5. But, the only file i get from the superlite version is blacimg.nbh. What to do?

agroote said:
Ok, i'm convinced. I want to flash Onkologs 6.5 Superlite version to my phone. I usually flashed with USPL 2.5. Onkolog states it's possible to flash with USP 2.5. But, the only file i get from the superlite version is blacimg.nbh. What to do?
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Is it the RUU Wrapper you're looking for? Try this one...

drgopoos said:
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I was a flash junkie before but now i have settled down...
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Second that, just want this new Manila adding to his rom so I can use some features I've wanted to use for a long time.

I would also recommend onkologs wm 6.5 lite that is if you don't like manila however if you want to have your cake and eat it then it has to be miri's v10 fully loaded yet it's fast and stable been running it for nearly a week no probs! yes there is that alarm bug but that's not rom related it's wm 6.5 issue, workaround use galarm

gfreek said:
I would also recommend onkologs wm 6.5 lite that is if you don't like manila however if you want to have your cake and eat it then it has to be miri's v10 fully loaded yet it's fast and stable been running it for nearly a week no probs! yes there is that alarm bug but that's not rom related it's wm 6.5 issue, workaround use galarm
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But he has the lite version that has manila built in and works very fast..
The only issue is that he does not have a version that has both manila and new wm6.5 home

nicelad_uk said:
What features is it that you like particularly?
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Well... Actually I use it for internet browsing, emailing, watching movies & videos on youtube and from normal dvd rips. chatting on msn, gtalk. using for skype and sometimes even for quick snaps and videos... I use the alarm everyday as well..
gfreek said:
I would also recommend onkologs wm 6.5 lite that is if you don't like manila however if you want to have your cake and eat it then it has to be miri's v10 fully loaded yet it's fast and stable been running it for nearly a week no probs! yes there is that alarm bug but that's not rom related it's wm 6.5 issue, workaround use galarm
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agreed to u... i have galarm as well... but i guess miri's new 10 eats up a bit too much battery life...

this thread is closed
as this question is not allowed here....will always end in fighting.
they always do.
best thing is for to get flashing and find out whats best for you
thank you

[ROM Request!] WinMo 6.1 with Manila 2.5 Cooked by experienced chef!

I know this has been going around for a while. The whole WinMo 6.1 with Manila 2.5 issue. And I know a lot of people have said it doesn't work. But it does. There have been some concept ROMs made, that use 6.1 with 2.5.
Would it be possible, for one of the more experienced chefs, to try and cook up a ROM that had these two together. While 6.5 is very good now, and it has grown on me a lot, WinMo 6.1 with Manila 2.5, is actually an excellent combination.
I tried outies ROM with this mix, and it was very fast. The only problems, were small bugs that needed someone experienced to fix.
We all know 6.5 is good now. Much better than it was before. But 6.1 is also still excellent. Combined with Manila 2.5, it could be an excellent mix. HTC Sense and 6.1. A great combination. Please think about it chefs. I bet you would be surprised by how many people want to use it.

*sign* i search also a 6.1 with 2.5 manila...

amen to that, I agree completely !

I second this from here to infinity.....but I doubt any chef will take the challenge

Outie's kitchen
Hi,
Outie actually posted the whole kitchen with his ROM, so I am trying to tweak it a bit, something like Mikedomain's ROM. I have got PC2USB popup and Smaberg's action screen working properly, but still struggling with some other issues. If I get it tweaked nicely I will post it and maybe the whole kitchen if people want to play with customising. I won't be able to offer support, however, although I will try. There's a good chance I can't improve it much, because I am completely new to cooking, but it's worth a try.
I won't post anything if I can't make it as good as mikedomain's.
For now I suggest trying his ROM and messing with outie's kitchen if you are brave.
-Oobly

I would only be curious to hear the answer of some serious chef....
Like y ?? .....they waste hours and hours of work on 6.5 roms that will never by any means be as good as 6.1 roms....and for what, a horrible start menu and some kinetic scrolling....if you ask me not worth it...best roms ever are pctech4u, jackx 3.x and touch x by mr.rusch if those had 2.5 on top....that would be....HOT !

darkhalf520 said:
I would only be curious to hear the answer of some serious chef....
Like y ?? .....they waste hours and hours of work on 6.5 roms that will never by any means be as good as 6.1 roms....and for what, a horrible start menu and some kinetic scrolling....if you ask me not worth it...best roms ever are pctech4u, jackx 3.x and touch x by mr.rusch if those had 2.5 on top....that would be....HOT !
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amen

i just cooked a wm6.1-rom with manila 2.5 (german) just to get the experience. I can't really understand why you guys want the old wm back...
the experience was horrible compared to all the wm6.5 roms out there. the only thing i really like in wm6.1 is the drop-down-startmenu. but.....
it is possible to modify the wm6.5 startmenu to show up in list-view (not exactly but nearly 6.1 experience).
What's the real reason you like 6.1 more than 6.5?????
I really can't get it.... ugly themes... scrolling in settings/programs without scrollbar-use etc.......
6.5 is the logical evolution of wm6.1... flashing back now from this horrible 6.1 experience to wm6.5......... never again turning back.......

second to that! there is nothing I like in 6.1, sorry ...wont ever look back

the only reason that i want 6.1 (and use it actually with manila 2.1) ist stability. i have tryed a lot of 6.5 roms and all make me crazy. freezes every day (especelly in standby and charging).

Tastenchef said:
the only reason that i want 6.1 (and use it actually with manila 2.1) ist stability. i have tryed a lot of 6.5 roms and all make me crazy. freezes every day (especelly in standby and charging).
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Like I said in that thread, I never experience standby freeze in 6.5. 6.1 is more responsive but 6.5 has better memory management IMHO.

Well, whatever the reason, people seem to want a 6.1 ROM with manila 2.5 cooked by someone with enough experience to iron out the kinks, me included. In fact I want it so badly I am trying to cook one myself (making some progress, too).
IMHO, 6.5 is slower, less responsive, and has retarded volume key and close app functionality. Some of the latest builds of 6.5 are closing the gap performance-wise and some features are better, but the app closing and volkey functionality are enough to keep me away.
Each to their own, but if all the cooks are cooking 6.5, people who want 6.1 ROMs are left unsatisfied. On that note, there are some chefs cooking 6.1 ROMs, but they all seem to be using manila 2.1. Touch X is a good example of a 6.1 ROM. Fast, stable, looks nice. And it is very popular..... If only Smaberg would come back and cook us a Leo ROM... (sigh).

Exactly as Oobly said !!
How come you guys can't see a reason why we wish for 6.1 with 2.5 manila guys ..... Seems like responsiveness and stability and SPEED are pretty neglected these days....bfff makes me angry

Hello to you all, it can be done, but the time it takes to modify some files to get it to work as it should ain't worth it. And after using 6.1 with 2.5 after a day makes memory go heywire... therefor 6.5 is better, the original ROM for touch pro 2 is the most stable sys build for the x1 but with 2.5 its somewhat slow, but the leo sys build on x1 works better, but with more bugs, so combination is hard, but i recomend the TP2 sys build, with latest LEO xip.
And back to 6.1, as i wrote it can be done quite easy, but you'll need anyone with experience to edit dll files cause it referes to some files that aint in 6.1, all this info came from a source in HTC, so i can't confirm it myself though.
wish you all the luck on this one, i would be glad to help, but without a X1 it would be to hard.

Smaberg its a pity u can't do this.....could you put a nice word for us with MrRusch ??

Oobly said:
IMHO, 6.5 is slower, less responsive, and has retarded volume key and close app functionality.
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What you are describing is 6.5.1 (not 6.5)
HTC volume and close button work the same as 6.1 on 6.5 (just take a look to the official 6.5 rom on Rhodium, or Topaz.

Thanks for your input, Smaberg and Jack!
I know at least HTCScroll_2 isn't compatible with 6.1 and this causes problems in the album and I am sure I will find more. In this case we can use an older version of album, but then you can't save pictures as footprints. It's a long road, but worth a try. I am certainly gaining respect for the experienced chefs!
Maybe official 6.5 is good enough, but I have already started down this road and I believe the performance will be better on 6.1 still. Will have to see.
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ROM seems to be usable now.. some small issues, but nothing huge so far (no hangs / manila restarts, etc.) Maybe I will post what I have done so far this evening or tomorrow if I can get it uploaded somewhere. I need to do some tweaks still....
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Oobly said:
Thanks for your input, Smaberg and Jack!
I know at least HTCScroll_2 isn't compatible with 6.1 and this causes problems in the album and I am sure I will find more. In this case we can use an older version of album, but then you can't save pictures as footprints. It's a long road, but worth a try. I am certainly gaining respect for the experienced chefs!
Maybe official 6.5 is good enough, but I have already started down this road and I believe the performance will be better on 6.1 still. Will have to see.
[EDIT]
ROM seems to be usable now.. some small issues, but nothing huge so far (no hangs / manila restarts, etc.) Maybe I will post what I have done so far this evening or tomorrow if I can get it uploaded somewhere. I need to do some tweaks still....
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keep us updated.....ur our hero !!

I just dont get it really guys ...even you can make wm6.1 working with the latest goodies (can't imagine how hard that would be), but in the end where do you guys go from there? wm6.1 is ended, and is no longer developed.
wm6.5 is still under development, but there are choices coming from certain branches that did prove stability and speed (build 21874 is the latest i tested of this kind). And yet it is still developing and sometimes newer build just failed.
wm6.5.1 is new gui with start button at the bottom part of the screen so this is another challenge. Kinetic scrolling is gone for whatever reason, but you can slide left and right at status bar at the top part of the screen.
I'm not a cooker and yet about to dig in some into more depth. Read a lot, pick the rom you want to flash and pm the chef what official rom he started before the work. You can always predict the result by doing the same routines - flash official rom, hard reset, flash custom rom, hard reset and always follow direction given by the chef carefully, and follow what other flasher find and tweaking bugs. This is how we develop i believe.
but still i do appreciate that some ppl still opted wm6.1, it is just the way it is i guess

Phoenix ROM
Hi all,
My 6.1Leo ROM is now up! Get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4956394#post4956394
And please read all of the first 4 posts.
-Oobly
P.S. @deepthroat, I have yet to see a 6.5 ROM that gives the same benchmark scores for graphics as a good WM6.1 ROM. Usually at least 20% less speed. I don't think our X1 devices can handle 6.5 AND manila 2.5 nicely..... yet. Maybe 6.5 will improve to the same point soon.

Looking for a specific sort of ROM...

Searching appears to have failed me, but I'm looking for a up to date, optimized (recent drivers etc), Manila/Sense LACKING 6.1 ROM for the Xperia.
Could anyone provide some guidance with that? I can't really find any
EDIT: To clarify, thats a Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM without manila or sense UI

Maybe you should look at the forum? Searching specific terms won't give any good results back.. These roms basically plague the forum, i dont know how you could not find ANY
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562935
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=568918
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524043
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564028
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588882
And that's just the first page

6.1, not 6.5 I'm aware of the huge amounts of 6.5 ROMs

Bad grammar is bad
Even if there's manila/sense, you dont have to enable them.. no different tbh
check here
Touch-IT v16 with winmo 6.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=575329
List of stock roms with link somewhere http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475482

Hi,
I can maybe try to cook something like that for you... you want other apps included (youtube, facebook, etc.) or totally clean?
Do you want X1 panel manager installed? Any X1 panels?
Will post a link here if I get it cooked...
-Oobly

the stock roms aren't too bad, but i can only think of two 6.1 roms without manilla/ sense;
norti nx1i 1.04
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478022
i've used this and can recommend it
bxsteez lite 1.05
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475083
otherwise, as mentioned it could be worth trying some of the established 6.1 touchflo roms and just disable touchflo. 'pctech4u' and 'touch x' come to mind. check out the rom library, ther might be more

I am on an own-cooked ROM which I can upload for you, or anybody else.
WM6.1 build 21051, no manila, no panels, some little apps that are useful for me and some selected HTC staff like enlarge start menu, volume control, FM-radio etc
I am using it for the last 2 months and it's very fast and stable. Perfect for SPB MS users.
I cannot provide any support though. No much time. Normally you won't need any.

Typako said:
I am on an own-cooked ROM which I can upload for you, or anybody else.
WM6.1 build 21051, no manila, no panels, some little apps that are useful for me and some selected HTC staff like enlarge start menu, volume control, FM-radio etc
I am using it for the last 2 months and it's very fast and stable. Perfect for SPB MS users.
I cannot provide any support though. No much time. Normally you won't need any.
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Hey that'd be great

So, here is the dl link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/317757034/Typako_21051_r3a_v1.0_nopanel_WWE_generic.rar
Hope you enjoy it.
As everyone here says, hardspl your device first and flash at your own risk.

6.5.X Titanium-only ROMs

I always prefer Titanium ROMs over Manila ones. I've been using Miri's xtralight for a long time and love them. The only bad thing is that they're in 6.5 (the 6.5.X test ROMs are somewhat buggy and not available anymore).
I have tried two 6.5.X Titanium only ROMs (energy and cleanrom) and both are still quite heavily customized. Can anyone recommend any lightweight 6.5.X ROMs? Thanks a lot

KWBR
ithinkurdumb said:
I always prefer Titanium ROMs over Manila ones. I've been using Miri's xtralight for a long time and love them. The only bad thing is that they're in 6.5 (the 6.5.X test ROMs are somewhat buggy and not available anymore).
I have tried two 6.5.X Titanium only ROMs (energy and cleanrom) and both are still quite heavily customized. Can anyone recommend any lightweight 6.5.X ROMs? Thanks a lot
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Hey mate, I also love titatium rom. I am currently using KWBR Titanium WinMo 6.5 21907 and it's really wonderful. there is no bug
You can download it from here :
http://htcpedia.com/kwbr_HD_Titanium/soft/htc-blackstone-rom.html?page=1
(PS: I think you need to register first)

I heard kwbr's ROMs are very fast and stable. However I'm looking for 6.5.X (preferably COM5). For 6.5 ROMs I use Miri's xtralight.
Actually I kinda gave up the search I started to cook my own based on OS kitchen 23529. It still has some bugs but generally works. If you would like to try let me know

ithinkurdumb said:
I heard kwbr's ROMs are very fast and stable. However I'm looking for 6.5.X (preferably COM5). For 6.5 ROMs I use Miri's xtralight.
Actually I kinda gave up the search I started to cook my own based on OS kitchen 23529. It still has some bugs but generally works. If you would like to try let me know
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Yeah I would like to try, I have been looking for a titanium rom with the start icon at the bottom but only energy has one but i don't like the icons and there are too many stuff cooked in. I would like to try yours.

foxibs said:
Yeah I would like to try, I have been looking for a titanium rom with the start icon at the bottom but only energy has one but i don't like the icons and there are too many stuff cooked in. I would like to try yours.
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Second to that, only decent clean 6.5.x rom I've found so far is the last Miri Titanium. Others claim to be clean but run using a lot more RAM than said Miri.
Cheers

You can download it here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?tynyjmizjm3
It's a minimal ROM and only contains SYS and essential EXT (excluding EzInput, USBtoPC Popup, Device Information, Clear Storage and QuickGPS because I don't use them that much and including them resulting in some bugs I haven't got time to fix). Refer to the attachment for package list.
For IME I use Swype but can also use EzInput 2.1. For theme I suggest Condor GT Black (included) or Joshoon's HD Mini.
If you find some bug let me know or ask me for the kitchen and fix it yourself

which 6.5.x/Sense 2.1 ROMS are still being supported? Anyone still using them?

I'm wondering who is still developing ROMs with the latest versions of Windows (6.5.3, 6.5.5, etc) but Sense 2.1. I'm trying to resist the fancy 2.5 beause it seems to be a lot less legible for someone with poor vision. Serge had been promising a new release but has not mentioned it in months. NRGZ28 makes one but shows no images of it. I'm not sure who else is still working in these.
Anyone out there still favoring these? If so, what are you using?
Thanks

The NRG ROM is pretty good, you should try it out. I would like to see more Chefs build 2.1 ROMs too though.

I think the only WM6.5 Sense 2.1 ROM being currently supported and updated is Energy ROM. I am using it and its awesome.
I think Sense 2.5 has more problems than benefits as compared to Sense 2.1, and more chefs should support Sense 2.1...
Anyways cheers to NRG, I am a big fan and supporter

Im also using NRGZ28 titanium with manila 2.1 current version (June19 with start button on top). I looked for a while for a 2.1 built but couldnt really find any with good info on the rom. I wish he would post more pictures of the rom and describe what programs are installed you know more info for every one to read rather than jumping the ship to find out what the rom has

Sergio just said he will update the 2.1 ROMs soon
Any of the NRG users using the 6.5.x ROMs with the menus on the bottom?

I am, and it is freaking fantastic. Its beautiful, and I get really good battery life with it, not to mention a ton of memory. I would highly recomend it to someone looking for sense 2.1 6.5.x ROM.

Hollywould, what ROM are you using exactly?

I am using Energy ROM 23569 Sense 2.1 June 19 build. Is that what you wanted to know?

Yeah. It is. When I go to his thread, there's only the 2.5 builds to download from... Where can I get that specific rom? [sorry, I'm new to this lol]

If you go under Titanium ROM Build at the bottom of the first post, it'll be there. To save you time, here's the link.

hollywould said:
If you go under Titanium ROM Build at the bottom of the first post, it'll be there. To save you time, here's the link.
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Does anyone know of a solid 6.5.3 Titanium only ROM that also has the ATT keyboard.dll baked in and also doesn't have much in the way of icon/status bar customization? I'm looking for just a solid, fast, tons of free memory 6.5.3 Rhodium build that is ready to go for ATT.

Any mod available that displays multiple calendar items on your today screen with Sense 2.1?
In that case I would be interested to

mskovrinskie said:
Does anyone know of a solid 6.5.3 Titanium only ROM that also has the ATT keyboard.dll baked in and also doesn't have much in the way of icon/status bar customization? I'm looking for just a solid, fast, tons of free memory 6.5.3 Rhodium build that is ready to go for ATT.
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NRG's has it. if you go to "Windows Start Key" -> Tools -> "Carrier Provisioning" will give give you 2 ATT & 2 T-Mobile setup options, turning one on will set up the keyboard properly.

tvandegr said:
NRG's has it. if you go to "Windows Start Key" -> Tools -> "Carrier Provisioning" will give give you 2 ATT & 2 T-Mobile setup options, turning one on will set up the keyboard properly.
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That sets most of the normal keys but doesn't map all the function keys or OK button. It's a pain to use the keyboard mapper to fix this. I prefer to have one that is built especially for the ATT hardware out of the box to avoid this.

mskovrinskie said:
That sets most of the normal keys but doesn't map all the function keys or OK button. It's a pain to use the keyboard mapper to fix this. I prefer to have one that is built especially for the ATT hardware out of the box to avoid this.
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search for the AT&T keyboard fix cab.. i have to use the T-Mobile Home Key & ALT key fix cab everytime, which works perfectly fine.

jacko's smartmove rom
check out jackos smartmove rom, its 2.1 and very stable and very fast!

i am still currently using Miri WM 6.5 21885 :: MANILA 2.1 :: V 7.0 http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=552641&
it has served me exceedingly well over the whole time. it is discontinued and is outdated in terms of its build number (a great pity) but for all intents and purposes is a great stock feel ROM with heaps of RAM, stability and speed. I tried looking around for a more recent ROM to replace this but could not find one that appeared to retain the stock HTC feel. Hope this helps