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DO we need a SUBforum "Wing Mobile 6"

Hi there,
do we need a subforum for Wingusers only??
If so i would ask to create a new subforum...
Please vote for 1 week after that time I will delete this thread again....
Thanks
Daniel

it would be nice to have a area for wing specific threads, gets kinda confusing for what works with the wing and what doesnt

I remember as a newb it took me quite a while before I figured out that herald=atlas=wing and a subforum I think would help everybody out.

yess. took me so long to figure out its the same phone lol..
dam temobile and there renaming

I'd like to see a tmobile wing specific sub-forum as well.

Great idea. Being a newbie, it took me a while to get piece everything together....When I started out, I was on the other Wing forum and it took a while for me to figure out the whole Herald/P4350 thing...

pffft. No. There's not that much Wing-specific WM6 content here. It would be a waste and it would also look really empty...

papamopps said:
Hi there,
do we need a subforum for Wingusers only??
If so i would ask to create a new subforum...
Please vote for 1 week after that time I will delete this thread again....
Thanks
Daniel
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I think that it would be helpful for new folks getting started.

I voted yes, but since david made the cab to fix keyboard for wing users Im not gonna cook wing specific roms. And all my roms will be posted in Herald wm6

I have voted no. My reasoning is that the most notable difference between the two devices are minimal (the keyboard mapping) which has basically been resolved by David Duprat. Although it may be a bit more organized, I think it would be a waste since the majority of the questions are not device specific. I would hate to have to jump between forums looking for an answer that could apply to all herald like devices.
But hell I'm flexible.

hidavi said:
pffft. No. There's not that much Wing-specific WM6 content here. It would be a waste and it would also look really empty...
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Ditto.......we've obviously all found it, why do we need a new forum with duplicate info?
I think if any we should ad another section under Herald (and possibly for other devices as well) that is dedicated to new roms and kitchens. This would clean up the existing forums quite a bit.

JNasty said:
I have voted no. My reasoning is that the most notable difference between the two devices are minimal (the keyboard mapping) which has basically been resolved by David Duprat. Although it may be a bit more organized, I think it would be a waste since the majority of the questions are not device specific. I would hate to have to jump between forums looking for an answer that could apply to all herald like devices.
But hell I'm flexible.
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Agreed. There's no real reason. It's just going to slow down the production of new ideas since they'll be divided between two camps. It's the same device minus the keyboard driver.

ivanmmj said:
Agreed. There's no real reason. It's just going to slow down the production of new ideas since they'll be divided between two camps. It's the same device minus the keyboard driver.
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The more I think about it, the more I want to take my vote back. Add one more to no and subtract from yes.

I voted Yes, just for the sake of clarity, and organized structure.
And it spares us many questions like : ''Will this work on my Wing/Herald?" wich,
even with David Duprat's solution wil be asked several times more.
Although the Herald Mobile 6 forum is already full of mixed stuff, it doesn't really matter that much.
still I think it's better

The Dutchman said:
And it spares us many questions like : ''Will this work on my Wing/Herald?" wich,
even with David Duprat's solution wil be asked several times more.
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It works on both. The keyboard might not match, though...
But if they don't read the heading or the post that talks about it being a herald or wing item, why would they read the forum name? j/k

Personally, I think it would be ridiculous to open a new forum... Sure, it might make things "more organized" ... but its also going to be a pain in the ass... and besides the ROM, what other DEVICE SPECIFIC questions arise? NONE what so ever.
So you're going to split everyone and basically the only thing that's going to be happening in the new forum is a topic for Ivan's roms and a topic for ttran's roms...
I say keep it together, it makes more sense. I don't want to have to jump around yet another forum when the devices are the same, except for the keyboard problem, which has a solution now.

the only pro for me is - that noobs can find things more easyly.....
and at the moment 75% say yes (nearly 50 votes)

take it from a noob, it took me close to 2 weeks b4 i learned the herald was the wing p3 whatever it is... lol
im still totaly confused by all this
maybe instead of a new form just add WING to the title page
"Also known as: HTC P4350" is what it says
make it say
"Also known as: HTC P4350 / T-Mobile Wing"
maybe a well layed out sticky thred,
explaining the differances of each model of this phone
i run a few forusm myself and keeping things streamlined is a pain.
but this is a tricky one...

I agree with nyitalian718. Just rename the forum to Herald/Wing.
We'll be the only forum to have a non-HTC codename. hehe

I'm going with nyitalian718 and ivanmmj's opinion of adding all the known names of the Herald/Wing to the list just like in any other sub-forum.
It's not too much ask if a noob has to read some pages/stickies. All of us started like this and gain their knowledge.
At the end every major topic/problem has been dicussed at least once.
And the last thing I would recommend a new PDA owner is to void the warranty by flashing his device.
He should first get familiar with his PDA and then read the infos on this forum.
Papamopps and the core members of the Herald/Wing community did a great job on writing guides and tutorials on...let's say on everything

Complaint Section - NO SWEARING!!

I locked the thread because of the language, not for the complaints.
Let me say that this has been done because every theme can be run on any rooted phone. Since this is the case then themes need to be moved to the "general" theme section since they can be put on any device.
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I don't mind the complaints, but the language in which yall choose to voice yourselves is not acceptable.
Stericson
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Well since complaining is fine....
POST COMPLAINTS HERE BUT WITHOUT THE LANGUAGE!!!!!
Then it wont get deleted!
Ill go first:
I Hate the way android and windows mobile combine!
I hate the new move!
It was dumb because the original one was fine! and i was on it since the beginning!
now i gotta add more bookmarks where as all i had before was one for it all:
Dream - That was all i needed... it seems to clutter my part up now and that stinks! lol
Complaint away!!! lol

Well like I said, there was no point in keeping all the themes seperate when they, so far, work on any device.
As for having a hard time finding them, you just need to have your theme dev label his thread correctly to help you sort through them.
People always hate change, no surprise

Stericson said:
Well like I said, there was no point in keeping all the themes seperate when they, so far, work on any device.
As for having a hard time finding them, you just need to have your theme dev label his thread correctly to help you sort through them.
People always hate change, no surprise
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they DID label them before the move and they do not run on any device lol

Yes they run on any rooted phone with the appropriate rom loaded.

Stericson said:
Yes they run on any rooted phone with the appropriate rom loaded.
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my dear bro. i tried 10 themes from dream and sapphire and not a single of them run in my european hero. i had to do nandroid restore in every case.

Like I said, youd have to be running those roms
but your phone is capable of running them. If your running a hero rom, then look for the themes marked Hero.
If your running cm rom, look for any g1/mytouch theme....
Stericson

in that case i will have to look for hero rom as i have hero and in here i see 100 of themes in them only 10 for hero. dont u think this is difficult to search for these?
and if there is a quation of rom compatibility then how come u r saying every theme will run in every phone?
and 1 more thing... its not that i will leave this forum if u keep theme section like this but the thing is that maximum users are complaining this new system. this forum is for the users and if max users complain about this then whats the point of keeping it?
cheers man.

A phone is strictly a piece of hardware, and any rooted phone, with the appropriate rom(software) loaded, can run any of these themes.
And yes there are only about 10 hero roms, there are not many of them.
And no I dont find it difficult, as I've looked on the first two pages and found them, clearly marked with "Hero"
Stericson

Stericson, I completely see your point about the merging of the theme areas. I have a MyTouch and browsed the Dream Theme area regularly (and almost never visited the Magic Theme area). While this does lead to a certain bit of confusion by putting everything in the same area (just as the Magic 32a/b rom differentiation gets confusing). Would it be possible that when a dev posts their rom, have all of the rom details in the first post, and all of the supported themes in the 2nd post? Granted, this would probably cause alot of work on everybody's part, but it would make our whole environment better as everything corresponding to a rom would be in a single place.
Now, I know what you're thinking. With this, we'd have to worry about the clutter in the Dev forums; however, what about breaking up the Dev forum to have it be strictly a place for Dev's to work and brainstorm, then setup a seperate area strictly for releases/contributions. I don't know, just an idea.
Ps. For an example of the 1st post Rom, 2nd post Themes, check this out by Enomther. A couple people got posts in between his, but you get the idea.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456

If only life was that simple
Stericson said:
A phone is strictly a piece of hardware, and any rooted phone, with the appropriate rom(software) loaded, can run any of these themes
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Sorry but this statement is simply not true. A theme designed for the same hero rom running on both the dream and hero will NOT run on both. A good example is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572151 I also think its very clear that the mass majority of htc "android" users are against this move, whats more is that a simply poll on each android themes section would of made this clear and could of avoided the trouble we android users now face.
Oh and I DO understand that clearly labelled post could avoid any problems but that fact remains that most if not all themes moved are not labelled with there device name included.

I make Themes for Hero. I don't think they work on any other device.
For every ROM you must change anything/many things.
No, guys, so I didn't want to use this section to release my themes.
It's hard work.
In the forum "HTC Hero THEMES and Apps" there must be this themes placed...
Give me one of the themes in this new section, that works on an Hero!
Thats completely.....ouhhh!
If I can spell english so good as german I could better explain, what I mean.

Putting all the themes for "Android" was a bad idea. Plain and simple.
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Yes they run on any rooted phone with the appropriate rom loaded.
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Your argument would hold if there was a Cyanogen ROM that COULD be used on the Hero, which there isn't.
I don't know who's bright idea it was to put all the android themes together, but it did not help in any way, no matter how much you argue.

Stericson said:
A phone is strictly a piece of hardware, and any rooted phone, with the appropriate rom(software) loaded, can run any of these themes.
And yes there are only about 10 hero roms, there are not many of them.
And no I dont find it difficult, as I've looked on the first two pages and found them, clearly marked with "Hero"
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Well consider the fact that not every (and probably no) developer is going to have every Android device and therefor cant test and verify that their theme runs on whatever device. Even if they are all running the same rom you are asking us to assume that they will work for any device with a compatible rom. I dont think that will be the case honestly. But either way, it still begs the case of organization. It would still be more organized to have sub-forums for things like themes on a device to device basis and if the dev finds that their theme works for different devices and chooses to add a thread under another devices themes forum that should be their choice.
There is a reason that personal computers group system sounds in a system folder and give you the option to store your music in a different place. Its more organized!

Well putting all the android thems to gether has just made it a huge mess ...
Instead of having a nice overview i need to go search for themes and i will miss new themes this way
Place restore the android theme sections as they where so a seperate theme section for every device.

anyone else notice the contradictions that happened when stericson talks???
HAHA
you are in a battle with your own statements, which in my opinion... do not make sense when put together cause they say 2 different things lol

If I have to add another bookmark its no big deal. The g1 theme section is a mess either way because of all the different builds out for the g1. I was gonna suggest that they make submenu's for different builds such as cyanogen, dwang, hero etc. Either way its no biggie to me.

Said it before say it again.. Went from working and clean to cluttered and not working so well. Dont know why they wont change it back as I have not seen anyone who likes it better this way. Thought the whole reason for a fourm is to see what the people like and want.... well its pretty clear what we all want we want it to be the way it was. it was working just fine...

Ryanmo5 said:
If I have to add another bookmark its no big deal. The g1 theme section is a mess either way because of all the different builds out for the g1. I was gonna suggest that they make submenu's for different builds such as cyanogen, dwang, hero etc. Either way its no biggie to me.
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So let me get this right..... the old dream theme section was a mess and could of benefited from splitting into even more sub sections but now that 3 different devices theme section have been merged to make a bigger mess.... its no biggie?!
Sorry you really have lost me with that one....

ratcom said:
Sorry but this statement is simply not true. A theme designed for the same hero rom running on both the dream and hero will NOT run on both. A good example is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572151 I also think its very clear that the mass majority of htc "android" users are against this move, whats more is that a simply poll on each android themes section would of made this clear and could of avoided the trouble we android users now face.
Oh and I DO understand that clearly labelled post could avoid any problems but that fact remains that most if not all themes moved are not labelled with there device name included.
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If I put this rom on my G1 then yes it will run on my phone. I know very well how themes work and the limitations provided by them.
For now, we will move the hero themes back.
Stericson

Thank you
Stericson said:
If I put this rom on my G1 then yes it will run on my phone. I know very well how themes work and the limitations provided by them.
For now, we will move the hero themes back.
Stericson
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Sincerely THANK YOU! this was a major problem for hero users at this time.

how do i get the best software for my g1

hey i was wondering how do i get like a really legit software on my g1 its brand new it has not been rooted or anything

you could try opening your eyes and looking around....

1. i do not think you know what the word legitimate means
2. This is in the wrong section.
3. The sentence made no sense.

just buy a nexus it is what I am going to do since all the devs are getting them and then are forgetting about us....KING, CYANOGEN lmao

When you say legit software, do you mean apps? That's the only thing I can think of as of now, but if that is what you're saying, you could always use the Market... if you don't have a data plan you can use your WiFi or http://www.cyrket.com/m/android/ for most of your Android app needs. Now, if you would bother to post in the Q&A section, you wouldn't be getting a smart ass comment... but that's just my two cents.

ianandamy said:
just buy a nexus it is what I am going to do since all the devs are getting them and then are forgetting about us....KING, CYANOGEN lmao
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they havent forgot about us, king is tweeting about a new hero rom for us right now.

I know I am just giving him **** on his twitter.

This forum is for discussion about "G1 Android Development". Everything in this thread as of right now is irrelevant.

To begin with...
Here's a good beginner's guide to rooting your G1: http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Opera...-need-to-modify-your-Android-phone/m-p/173419
Regards

where's the sense Rom?

I've never posted but I can't figure this out. I searched Google but the only sense roms I found were from February. In xda-nexus-development there are a bunch of themes stock roms, but I don't see any full sense roms. I remember when I had the g1 and the sense roms were slow but everything except Bluetooth worked. I'm sure by now there's a Rom that pretty much makes my nexus into a desire, I really want to try out full sense. But I can't find one anywhere. I know the question sounds dumb but ive seriously looked, I even downloaded Rom manager and looked through its lost. I know it exists because it existed for the g1 and the nexus blows the g1 away. Sorry, I need help.

I call bull**** that you've searched.
As of right now, the sense rom thread is holding a very prominent position in its respective forum.

Not all that helpful, but here's a few tips ronjeremy. Use the advanced search, you can narrow your search out with it (choose only the forum sections you need). Second, look in the development section, you usually find all roms there.
For instance, for Nexus One try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=559

Why don't people use the search bar? It takes even longer to wait for people to respond than to just "search" the damned thing.

erikikaz said:
I call bull**** that you've searched.
As of right now, the sense rom thread is holding a very prominent position in its respective forum.
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can you link me to "the sense rom thread"? I believe you that it exists, but it must not have the word in the title because when i searched on google, i found "sense" roms that were very old, when i searched this forum there was 1 thread with the word "sense" in it, none with the word "desire". No Bull****. So I dont know what to tell you, maybe i should look in every rom post and if there arent screen pics maybe i should flash every rom? Because its definitely a lot faster to post a question than open every single rom thread.

SeEsAw12 said:
Why don't people use the search bar? It takes even longer to wait for people to respond than to just "search" the damned thing.
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i tried, i just want a plain sense rom and i couldnt find it

Not gonna link you to it, you'll never learn how to search. I'm glad others aren't spoon feeding it to you either.
Just head into the right forum, hit CONTROL+F and search for "sense" or "desire." Even without searching, I can see TWO sense rom threads within the first page of the appropriate forum.
And when you search in the forum, just search for titles only and just search for "sense" or "desire" in the right forum.

@erikikaz you are too cool

dont know why you would even want sense (unless you absolutely need the htc facebook app or the FM radio)... sense was great about 2 years ago
vanilla froyo + adw/qd, etc have far surpassed the sense UI

I'm using CM 6 with black notification bar, imported sense live wallpaper and launcher pro plus (which is adding sense-like widgets constantly), and the weather and clock widget and I get a sense-like experience without the graphical glitches and Rom bugs. Yeah I paid for some of it, but supporting developers is never a bad thing and once purchased the app is mine across any Rom I install. Unlike sense.

erikikaz said:
Not gonna link you to it, you'll never learn how to search. I'm glad others aren't spoon feeding it to you either.
Just head into the right forum, hit CONTROL+F and search for "sense" or "desire." Even without searching, I can see TWO sense rom threads within the first page of the appropriate forum.
And when you search in the forum, just search for titles only and just search for "sense" or "desire" in the right forum.
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You have no friends. Is this supposed to be some sort of lessen that you are blessing me with? Because I think you're a douche bag getting some sort of loser-jollies from withholding a link to an internet thread, its sad. But its also funny, but I'm sure you're no stranger to people laughing at you. So what are you fat? Got a lazy eye? Maybe your boyfriend told you that your peckers tiny? Get over yourself, I did search, I'm not allowed to post links, but believe me I'd post the link for you. Now I'm on my nexus one, when I press "search forum" the search box appears and disappears so what next? Maybe you could hit me with another one of your life-changing, eye-opening, "this hurts me more than it hurts you" queer lessens? i see one by "evil" which isnt right, i see one in a guide by paul which is 2.1, is that as new as it gets? no flash on sense on nexus one?

well. i think the closest rom you'll find is the MCR, Modaco Custom Rom. i waited for those rom too, but idk why, it seems the development was canceled. i don't know for sure. try to look for MCR in android development.

In fact there was/is no completed Sense Froyo port until now.
evil's NXSense ROM is almost complete now (besides USB mount notification and some small BT quirks).
There's Alpha of kingclick's Desire Froyo port (not on the forum).
Look them up, flash, compare, see what you like.

thanks for the replies, i tried modaco it was pretty great, but i instantly missed flash and wifi hotspot setting. But the rom was really smooth, if a froyo one pops up im in. Is the evil one you are talking about going to be themed like his current one or will it be the way it is supposed to be?

Oh no, you've hurt my feelings. It's just terribly unfortunate that none of your descriptions fit me. I've tutored many kids like yourself. You try to teach them through the Socratic method and all they do is reverse their inability or unwillingness to work through a problem on you, blaming you for their failures. Nothing new.
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Is this supposed to be some sort of lessen that you are blessing me with?
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So tell me, did control+F work for you or not? And if it didn't, did you heed my advice and actually just head over to those forums to look at the first page of posts? If so, you're welcome.
ronjeremy11 said:
Now I'm on my nexus one, when I press "search forum" the search box appears and disappears so what next? Maybe you could hit me with another one of your life-changing, eye-opening, "this hurts me more than it hurts you" queer lessens?
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Don't be so easy, sheesh. Here comes a lesson, ready?. Try using the search bar at the top of the page. Guess what? When you click it, it won't disappear! And I already told you to search under titles only. Hopefully all this information isn't already over your head.
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i see one by "evil" which isnt right, i see one in a guide by paul which is 2.1, is that as new as it gets? no flash on sense on nexus one?
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Complain much? You asked for sense roms and you got them. And if you actually did some more prodding you'd find that modaco actually has a 2.2...ahh, screw it, find it yourself

ronjeremy11 said:
thanks for the replies, i tried modaco it was pretty great, but i instantly missed flash and wifi hotspot setting. But the rom was really smooth, if a froyo one pops up im in. Is the evil one you are talking about going to be themed like his current one or will it be the way it is supposed to be?
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It's themed the same as his previous ROMs, but there are themes that you can flash over it to get the original sense ui theme. I believe the theme is even posted in evil's thread.
I've been running evil's Q&D NXSense v.1.04 rom since it was posted and so far it seems really complete (besides BT issues and no FM radio - which I never use anyway).

New website!!! Just for us!!!

Let me know what you guys think???
A place for rookies and anvance hackers - testing ROMS and stuff!
VerizonTBolt
www.verizontbolt.webuda.com

Nicw thanks
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frankzua77 said:
Let me know what you guys think???
A place for rookies and anvance hackers - testing ROMS and stuff!
VerizonTBolt
www.verizontbolt.webuda.com
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Don't take this the wrong way, but creating a website for the Thunderbolt right now is like showing up late to a party with a 12 pack of Bud Light. Everyone will be happy you came, but you didn't bring anything that wasn't already there. Now, if you show up with a bottle of Single Barrel Jack Daniel's, you will be the shiznit at the party. So, if you can, please try to bring something different to your website. With that said, I'll be sure to keep checking on your site, it's always nice to have more people at the party.

COMING SOON!!!!!!!
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Thanks for the input guys!

TheBeardedMann said:
Don't take this the wrong way, but creating a website for the Thunderbolt right now is like showing up late to a party with a 12 pack of Bud Light. Everyone will be happy you came, but you didn't bring anything that wasn't already there. Now, if you show up with a bottle of Single Barrel Jack Daniel's, you will be the shiznit at the party. So, if you can, please try to bring something different to your website. With that said, I'll be sure to keep checking on your site, it's always nice to have more people at the party.
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To be honest, I love this idea. It's kind of hard to find updated roms and mods for any phone, not to mention the Thunderbolt. BeardedMan... Why is making a website like this, which will (hopefully) be a good hub for Thunderbolt mods and roms, getting "late to the party?" Is there another website out there like this, besides the android forms or Rom Manager? If there is, I'd like to know.
frankzua77, I would like to say thank you. If this website becomes what I think it will, it will make modding the Thunderbolt so much easier. If you need any help, just let me know.

I think the problem beardedman is referencing is the fact that there are a lot of android websites/forums already (even thunderbolt specific) and that there are a lot of much newer phones getting the attention. I have yet to not find anything I'm looking for without a 10 second search on Google. And the Thunderbolt is real close to being yesterday's superphone, if it's not already.
Plus, the problem with any of these sites is someone has to maintain it...which means sifting through posts, updating daily, etc. Unless it's a wiki that anyone can update, it's the same reason that the stickies all get outdated. Heck, it's the same reason I've started threads on many forums for many topics trying to compile information and eventually given up.
Now that I've rained on the parade and come off as a prick, I do applaud the effort...even if it doesn't stay updated or become the hub you imagine, at least you have an idea and a passion and are trying to do something about it. Don't lose that. And who knows...maybe it's just what the community needs

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/htc-thunderbolt-forum/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=940
http://www.teambamf.net/index.php/forum/15-htc-thunderbolt/
http://themikmik.com/forumdisplay.php?1004-HTC-Thunderbolt-ROM-Development
http://androidforums.com/htc-thunderbolt/
I have a "Thunderbolt" folder in my Bookmarks (just like I used to with my Incredible) that I have the five links in. I can open all the links and catch up with all the newest Thunderbolt news, for the most part. And the Thunderbolt is old news actually, just being honest.
TUDrewser understood what I meant, I wasn't being rude. ThunderNet, trying checking the above sites, I bet you'll find answers to whatever questions you have.

ThunderNet said:
To be honest, I love this idea. It's kind of hard to find updated roms and mods for any phone, not to mention the Thunderbolt. BeardedMan... Why is making a website like this, which will (hopefully) be a good hub for Thunderbolt mods and roms, getting "late to the party?" Is there another website out there like this, besides the android forms or Rom Manager? If there is, I'd like to know.
frankzua77, I would like to say thank you. If this website becomes what I think it will, it will make modding the Thunderbolt so much easier. If you need any help, just let me know.
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Please see my sig..
Users can submit a MOD, Downlad mods or whatever right from the web.
Still a WIP, but just needs attention.
Not knocking this idea at all, but should really consider opening it up to a wiki format and not center only on the thunderbolt.

!
I really appreciate everyone that makes their point, I am currently working on the page. One of my goals is to have videos that can show you a ROM even before you consider downloading it. I know we are focusing on the tbolt, who knows maybe later on this expands to having other phones and stuff...
I need your help on deciding on a domain name! Right now im using a free domain service but I would like to purchase a domain, any ideas???
Also please click on the ads on the bottom as this is how the site will be funded for right now.
www.verizontbolt.webuda.com

Interesting
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