Can HardSPL brick ultimately? - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_G1/Dream_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod says
DO NOT FOLLOW THESE STEPS unless you've followed the previous steps on this page (or if you manually flashed your radio with the LATEST version). Otherwise, you WILL brick your phone.
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So does brick really mean brick? It cannot be repaired? I once heard only DangerSPL can do that.
Tell us more.
Thanks,

G1Dreamer said:
Hi
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_G1/Dream_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod says
So does brick really mean brick? It cannot be repaired? I once heard only DangerSPL can do that.
Tell us more.
Thanks,
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That's exactly what it means. If you don't know what you're doing, you will brick your phone. Completely. Especially if you don't update your radio. Just like you can brick your phone if you put in a wrong radio for your device, or a wrong spl for that matter.

Any time you flash the radio or SPL there is the potential for something to go wrong and possibly cause a brick, even if you meet all the requirements, buuuut as long as the SPL requires the radio you're on and you don't play hot potato while it's flashing you should be fine. Brick means it's dead, the nand needs to be reflashed at the factory or you can replace the motherboard yourself (containing the nand).

Yep, I've bricked a G1 before. I don't remember exactaly what I did, I think I flashed the same Hard SPL twice, and bam. Brick. Luckily enough it as within the 14 days return period of buying it, and I was able to get my money back and buy another.

AdrianK said:
you don't play hot potato while it's flashing you should be fine. Brick means it's dead.
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This is what NOT to do

I already installed HardSPL once. Now I am going to from CM back to original Firmware and back since I made some mistakes with apps2sdcard. Will my HardSPL remain? If not that would mean that the orinigal SPL would be reinstalled does it not? In that case the chance of bricking would be there again?

G1Dreamer said:
I already installed HardSPL once. Now I am going to from CM back to original Firmware and back since I made some mistakes with apps2sdcard. Will my HardSPL remain? If not that would mean that the orinigal SPL would be reinstalled does it not? In that case the chance of bricking would be there again?
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SPL and radio are independant of the ROM. So, no.

So my HardSPL could remain forever and I will always get the joy of backing up my phone and will never have to fear a brick because of a new SPL?
Im just a user no developer. I just want to do regular stuff with my phone and use CM. Are there any situations where I still have to change the SPL?

G1Dreamer said:
So my HardSPL could remain forever and I will always get the joy of backing up my phone and will never have to fear a brick because of a new SPL?
Im just a user no developer. I just want to do regular stuff with my phone and use CM. Are there any situations where I still have to change the SPL?
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You will have to change if you want a Hero ROM. There should be no reason to update the SPL
Just be careful upgrading either SPL or Radio. Read up to make sure it wont cause a brick for sure.

Related

husband bricked wing .....any advice

i have been roming and cooking with my tmobile wing for about a year now so ive become really good at it i have yet to brick my phone.....UNTILL NOW
MY NOOB HUSBAND thought while i was at work and he was using my phone to rom it he didn't know that certin roms go with certin phones so when he put the neo rom onto my tmoble wing he bricked it
i have it into bootloader mode but when i plugh it inot the usb activesync wont reconize it so i am having a hard time hard spl ing it...is the phone useless now or is there a way to fix it. im also getting an rom error. anyone have any advice....
What SPL is it showing? If your phone wasn't HardSPL'ed before, he may have ruined it and nothing will fix it short of changing the motherboard. Try flashing it with the stock RUU if it's not HardSPLed. If it is, try flashing it with your ROM named HERAIMG.nbh and place it in your SD card. Good luck.
on the bootloader screen it shows
ipl 4.10.0002
spl 4.10.0000
hyoungluv said:
on the bootloader screen it shows
ipl 4.10.0002
spl 4.10.0000
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Sounds like the IPL and SPL are still intact. It's not HardSPL'ed so just try the stock RUU. Not having the green icon on activesync doesn't mean it doesn't see it. It means that it isn't synchronizing.
yup same thing happened to me with my first flash. i used a different rom and thought i bricked. recovered with the stock RUU
divorce him. it's that simple
jkjk
yeah, just RUU it.
lol divorce him thatsfunny, the papers were out but lucky for him i fixed it lol...i shoulda thought of using the stock rom to begin with thanks eveyone for your help and advice
hyoungluv said:
lol divorce him thatsfunny, the papers were out but lucky for him i fixed it lol...i shoulda thought of using the stock rom to begin with thanks eveyone for your help and advice
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Great to hear that it's working, again! Now, for an important part: So you're a silent personal cook who only cooks for herself? ^_^
No, the most important part is... HARD SPL THAT THING! lol
If mine read
IPL 4.26.0002
SPL 4.26.0000
is that really bad?
Thanks for your help
EDIT:
Thanks God, it isn't. Was able to install TMobile's ROM from Bootloader.
IF others have bricked their Herald/Wing:
1. Download TMobile's ROM from here : http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Herald_Upgrades (Choose 4.26.531.4)
2. Enter Bootloader on your Wing (Hold in the camera button and then soft reset with your stylus)
3. Run the TMobile ROM.
It worked for me. Hope it does for you too.

Change SPL From SD Card?

A bunch of you guys know my kaiser is stuck in an infinite boot loop...
I have hardspl 3.56 on it currently. Worse mistake ever. It doesn't have most of the commands you use with mtty to recover...
From what I've seen, to replace the hardspl you have to run the softspl program from inside windows on the phone. And to get it back to factory spl you also have to run a program from windows on the phone. Is there no other way to do this? If we can install radios and stuff off of the SD card, is there anyway to embed an spl into that installer or another method? I think If I could get the spl replaced I could get my phone fixed using mtty.
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nomb
the thing is spl has to load outside of the boot,oader screen its like trying to install windows while using it..your using the bootloader when you flash from sd therefore you cant update spl (which is the bootloader) from within itself you must be in the OS and load a softspl emulating a bootloader mode
Thats weird I swear I was able to put my hermes spl back to factory with it bricked. So then basically I might as well through my kaiser away?
nomb
talk with the mods..alltheway might help or even jocky they can help you unbrick your device and if not just take it to a att device support center and say you dont know what happened and youl get a new device (if your with att)
pazookie said:
talk with the mods..alltheway might help or even jocky they can help you unbrick your device and if not just take it to a att device support center and say you dont know what happened and youl get a new device (if your with att)
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If you did the ATT warranty exchange since it is still under warranty, will they check to see if you changed the SPL on the device? And if they do what are the repercussions?
nomb
nomb said:
If you did the ATT warranty exchange since it is still under warranty, will they check to see if you changed the SPL on the device? And if they do what are the repercussions?
nomb
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They probably check, and if they do, they will bill you $400, their "cost" for the Tilt.
NotATreoFan said:
They probably check, and if they do, they will bill you $400, their "cost" for the Tilt.
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I read somewhere that the 3.56 spl was starting to be included with the official roms?
nomb
nomb said:
I read somewhere that the 3.56 spl was starting to be included with the official roms?
nomb
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That may be true. But it will say something like SPL 3.56.0000; not SPL 3.56.Hard.
Do you have any commendations? I really feel like I should be able to get my phone working again.
Basically I restarted my phone and now it is stuck. I turns on and shows the ATT splash screen and then when it should show you all the versioning information in the bottom right corner it restarts itself and starts all over. I keeps doing this. I can get into the bootloader and have been able to flash roms onto it using usb. I thought I could recover using mtty and then found out that hardspl3.56 doesn't have the commands needed in it.
Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
nomb
i sent in a device with hardspl and didnt get billed...ive heard they dont check spl..let alone the bootloader a long as it is a cingular rom then your good to go and if it cant boot then your set
Hmm, decisions, decisions...

what to do after you downgrade to RC29

I wannna know what is the right thing to do after you downgrade to Rc29 as in
Keeping your phone up to date to instal the latest cyanogenmod
Cuz it seems to me that everytime I do my mods there is always something wrong
Little but wrong ya know I want my phone to run as good as it can .
I'm currently running RC29 US (not rooted no mods at all)
Just waiting to see what's the best thing to do
Thx in advance
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563679
Follow this to the T.
What's the difference bewtween hard spl and haykuros special spl somehow I like hykuros better but I don't really know the difference and you think I can use haykuros spl instead of the hard spl while following that guide?
Haykuros SPL repartitions the phone so the System and Data partitions are both ~90mb
The bigger partition allows you to install bigger roms such as Hero
However, the HaykuroSPL has a high chance of bricking your phone permanently if you dont know what your doing....
The most important thing is to flash the 26I radio before the SPL
However, you can install the HardSPL now and install the HaykuroSPL when you feel your read
Zixx said:
What's the difference bewtween hard spl and haykuros special spl somehow I like hykuros better but I don't really know the difference and you think I can use haykuros spl instead of the hard spl while following that guide?
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The death spl is the saphires spl. People load it on the g1's to be able to load a hero rom because the hero roms are bigger needing more space. When you load it on the phone it resizes the partitions to make more space. Thats the reason why you have to flash a rom right after the spl because it overwrites the existing rom. If I were you I would load hard spl first to get the hang of everything then try the danger spl. Many people have bricked there phone due to that spl, but if you do try it don't take any shortcuts and read read read.
What to do,what to do?
Well...I would advise you follow a tutorial or go to youtube and follow a video or video's on how to root and all that happy horsecrap.That's how I did it my first time. I watched videos,watched how others did it and then copied what they did on my phone. I successfully came out of it rooted,with the updated radio,Haykuro's SPL, and a Hero ROM that I could depend on at that time.Since then I have flashed so many different ROM's I can't even count all of them anymore. I would definitely root the phone first though. Possibly call T-MO and ask them for an unlock code for the phone as well as that will let you travel overseas with the phone and use it on other carriers too. Rooting is the way to go with the G1 nowadays. A whole new world opens up to you once the phone is rooted! Anyways...good luck at your beginning and keep up the work. If you end up bricking your phone,call T-MO and tell em one of their updates bricked your phone and you want a new one. Take it slow and do things right though man!

need help fellas... i made a mistake n cant fix it?

i was rooting a friends g1, i missed a step n tried flashing a rom without having the danger spl installed first, i cant get into my spl menu by holding camera and power nor can i get into my recovery nor can i get into adb... my phone turns on and stays at the g1 logo... any advice?
bricked.. look in the development section for un-bricking guides... although it'll cost some money i think.. i'll look for one myself and post back with a link
edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=576628&highlight=brick
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591048
maybe those could help... Good luck!
madunix said:
i was rooting a friends g1, i missed a step n tried flashing a rom without having the danger spl installed first, i cant get into my spl menu by holding camera and power nor can i get into my recovery nor can i get into adb... my phone turns on and stays at the g1 logo... any advice?
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that is why i dont screw around with other peoples phones LOL
i just checked my sdcard that was in the phone, the update.zip file is the danger spl. im guessing i flashed that? but i dont get why that would brick anything.. the phone was rooted... but i had the factory recovery where u see that pic in the middle, i hit alt w? or alt s i forget what the instructions were i was following. soo its a brick huh? no way of getting through this one?
madunix said:
i just checked my sdcard that was in the phone, the update.zip file is the danger spl. im guessing i flashed that? but i dont get why that would brick anything.. the phone was rooted... but i had the factory recovery where u see that pic in the middle, i hit alt w? or alt s i forget what the instructions were i was following. soo its a brick huh? no way of getting through this one?
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Just because the phone is rooted doesn't mean it is magical and can't be bricked. You have to have the latest radio before you can flash the danger SPL. Depending on which method you used(likely RC29 method) that radio would not be anywhere close to what is needed. And, yes, once you flash the danger SPL without the newest radio, you have a brick and no way getting back from it.
Hopefully your friend is understanding and it isn't a major disaster getting a replacement G1 for him.
Flash Danger SPL without Latest Radio = Bricked.
I hope that your friend can get a replacement without much complications, because that one is screwed.
You could give him your phone...
the phone already had the newest radio installed... it was a brand new G1.. =X did i still have to flash it with the radio on this forums?
madunix said:
the phone already had the newest radio installed... it was a brand new G1.. =X did i still have to flash it with the radio on this forums?
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Most likely yes usually when something is brand new it was manufactured months ago. Its unlikely that it included the proper radio. try blaming your friend lol good luck!
madunix said:
the phone already had the newest radio installed... it was a brand new G1.. =X did i still have to flash it with the radio on this forums?
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Brand new or not, most every root method has you downgrade to RC29, which takes you back to a radio that is about a year old now.

Uhh, It's late...I messed up.

I just got a new phone because my old one's touchscreen broke, I tried to root it and it wasn't working...so i installed the danger spl cause i figured it'd let me install fasttest3.0. Now...I'm stuck at the g1 screen and I can't get to recovery by home and power nor fastboot from power and camera...This phone is bricked and there's nothing I can do right?
JeffGale said:
I just got a new phone because my old one's touchscreen broke, I tried to root it and it wasn't working...so i installed the danger spl cause i figured it'd let me install fasttest3.0. Now...I'm stuck at the g1 screen and I can't get to recovery by home and power nor fastboot from power and camera...This phone is bricked and there's nothing I can do right?
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Look on the bright side, with 2 bricks you have the beginnings of a nice wall.
Presumably, the one with the broken touchscreen has a good mainboard, right?
I think you can guess where I'm going with this, right?
If you didn't turn the old one in, that is. Swap boards and you should be good.
Ha, I raped t-mobile for a free replacement. Hoooooly that was a joke. Too bad I have to wait 4 days for a new one.
Do you know what board is your phone? PVT or DVT?
What radio were you on when you flashed the Danger SPL?
What steps did you take when you flashed the Danger SPL?
You said you tried to root your phone and it didn't work. What exactly did you do to root your phone?
lbcoder and I were having a discussion in another thread whether the Danger SPL is safe to flash and you could possibly be our answer.
cg87 said:
Do you know what board is your phone? PVT or DVT?
What radio were you on when you flashed the Danger SPL?
What steps did you take when you flashed the Danger SPL?
You said you tried to root your phone and it didn't work. What exactly did you do to root your phone?
lbcoder and I were having a discussion in another thread whether the Danger SPL is safe to flash and you could possibly be our answer.
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I'm thinking since he got the phone from T-Mo that it was a refurb and I'm assuming when they refurb phones they set them back to stock and when you boot it you receive the latest updates. Im going to guess that he did not update the radio before flashing but how could he even flash the SPL with out having root in the first place? Hopefully he answers your question.
JeffGale said:
Ha, I raped t-mobile for a free replacement. Hoooooly that was a joke. Too bad I have to wait 4 days for a new one.
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Yeah, I did the same last weekend and got my replacement on like Wed. Or, i should say my wife did. i was 30+ days past my warranty. Got lucky!!!

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