I have a couple of questions I am hoping to get help with. First if I have a custom ROM on my phone like MoDaCo and I wipe back to factory will it also add back the apps I removed like Nascar, footprints, ect. I am asking because after I wiped it through the recovery screen it did not add these back. The second question is when trying to do a Nandroid restore from when I first rooted the phone after I updated it, I get an error telling me it has to be done from the shell. Can I do this and if so how? Thanks
can anyone help with this?
Are you using RA-1.2.3??
My Nandroid backups have never asked me to restore through terminal.
Your back up maybe corrupt?? If so, I am not sure if people have had success loading a Nandroid from another phone, but you are welcome to one of my factory backups if it works. Can someone confirm a Nandroid from another phone will restore? I will Send if it does.
Also, the factory reset in RA1.2.3 should put back all apps. It is a "Factory reset" though I have never done one without immediately loading a rom. Who knows how its actually supposed to work.
Kcarpenter said:
Are you using RA-1.2.3??
My Nandroid backups have never asked me to restore through terminal.
Your back up maybe corrupt?? If so, I am not sure if people have had success loading a Nandroid from another phone, but you are welcome to one of my factory backups if it works. Can someone confirm a Nandroid from another phone will restore? I will Send if it does.
Also, the factory reset in RA1.2.3 should put back all apps. It is a "Factory reset" though I have never done one without immediately loading a rom. Who knows how its actually supposed to work.
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I am using RA-1.2.3. I guess it is possible the backup got corrupt when I moved it to my PC and then back to the phone. What is strange is none of the backups I had saved would take. I was able to do a backup and then right after that restore it so I know it works. I did about three factory resets and it would not add back the system apps I removed, but I think before the Sprint update when I first rooted the phone it did add back all the apps when I reset the phone. I could be wrong or it may be they came back when I put MoDaCo 1.1 on the phone since his ROM has everything with it. Thanks for responding.
last MoDaCo Rom I loaded (1.2c) all the stock apps came back, but I also loaded the Optimzation.zip so i wasn't sure who put them back.
Good to know it was the MoDaCo. It seems that even loading Rom's most things are fairly persistent and don't get wiped or over writen which is nice.
WinMoBo phones usually wipe everything out when you do this stuff.
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I have a couple of questions I am hoping to get help with. First if I have a custom ROM on my phone like MoDaCo and I wipe back to factory will it also add back the apps I removed like Nascar, footprints, ect. I am asking because after I wiped it through the recovery screen it did not add these back. The second question is when trying to do a Nandroid restore from when I first rooted the phone after I updated it, I get an error telling me it has to be done from the shell. Can I do this and if so how? Thanks
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doing a "factory reset" will not replace stock programs you deleted, it will just delete all your settings and apps you installed.
It's a misnomer in fact.... but when HTC made the option, they assumed that you hadn't rooted your phone. That's why all they really delete is the stuff in /data. Nothing in /system is added or modified.
If you really want to do a true factory reset, get the RUU from HTC and run it to reset your phone to exactly what it was when you got it.
As far as Nandroid not working, I've never had that problem either, but if your backup is corrupt then RUU will be your only option.
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I have a g1 that I rooted using universal androot, I decided to uninstall myfaves and was unaware that it somehow affected contacts. Afterward I performed a restore to my phone, thinking it was going to help but now I'm stuck in the google welcome screen and the welcome app crashes every time it gets to sync and I cannot get past the welcome screen. I know it was a stupid thing to do, if anyone can help me I would appreciate it.
Can you go into Recovery mode?
Yeah, I can get into recovery mode. I also used the hard reset (alt + w), the sign in still crashes once it starts synching.
Try to restore nandroid
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I have a g1 that I rooted using universal androot, I decided to uninstall myfaves and was unaware that it somehow affected contacts. Afterward I performed a restore to my phone, thinking it was going to help but now I'm stuck in the google welcome screen and the welcome app crashes every time it gets to sync and I cannot get past the welcome screen. I know it was a stupid thing to do, if anyone can help me I would appreciate it.
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lol if you have a custom rom in and you remove an important app, doing a hard reset wont restore a custom rom... you have to either restore a nandroid/BART backup file (which means you needed to make the backup before you messed up the custom rom) or you need to re-flash the rom completely... which there are many guides and methods here on xda you can follow to properly flash roms, basic method is boot recovery, wipe data, cache, sd ext, etc..... than repair sd ext!!! than flash new rom.
Be sure you have the proper requirements needed for Rom! ex:
Radio=1.2.xxxxxx/2.22.xxxxx (many different ones)
hboot=0.95.xxx/1.3.xxxx (many different ones)
sdext=2,3 or 4 (some require none)
I will try it out, thank you.
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I will try it out, thank you.
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another method to try (not garenteed) would be to unzip the rom on your pc, go to system/app folder and copy the fav5.apk file to root of sd card on your device. than go to market and download 'oi file manager' (or any type of file manager app) than flash the fav5.apk file that way.... make sure unknown sources is checked in settings/applications on device
Awesome thanks
Got it working!
I got it working. Just wanted to post the update, thank you guys for the help!!!
When should you do a full wipe when installing a custom rom and when is it ok to dirty flash? Can someone please explain?
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If you're changing bases it's always good to wipe. And if you're changing roms you should always wipe. But if you're just applying an update you might get away with a dirty flash. Save a backup first and you don't risk much with a dirty flash.
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If you're changing bases it's always good to wipe. And if you're changing roms you should always wipe. But if you're just applying an update you might get away with a dirty flash. Save a backup first and you don't risk much with a dirty flash.
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I apologize if this is a stupid question. When you say change base what exactly do you mean? Is this from one rom to another or a version change on the same rom like 5.0 to 6.0? Or is it a kernal change? If it is a version change would 5.1 to 5.6 be considered changing base?
Thank you very much. Again, I apologize if this is a dumb question. I have read around a little and did not quite get an answer I was comfortable with.
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I apologize if this is a stupid question. When you say change base what exactly do you mean? Is this from one rom to another or a version change on the same rom like 5.0 to 6.0? Or is it a kernal change? If it is a version change would 5.1 to 5.6 be considered changing base?
Thank you very much. Again, I apologize if this is a dumb question. I have read around a little and did not quite get an answer I was comfortable with.
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What rom are you using?
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What rom are you using?
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I am using VenomOne 5.7.0 but it is more of a general question. I am a bit new to this and want to have a good understanding of everything from the ground up.
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I am using VenomOne 5.7.0 but it is more of a general question. I am a bit new to this and want to have a good understanding of everything from the ground up.
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Sorry I meant ViperOne...
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I am using VenomOne 5.7.0 but it is more of a general question. I am a bit new to this and want to have a good understanding of everything from the ground up.
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Sorry I meant ViperOne...
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'4.19.401.8' that is the current base which is in use by viper. Sometimes it's okay to flash, it's trail and error.
Always make a Nand before you flash, incase anything goes wrong, you can go back to the previous version, like a windows restore point.
A fresh install is wiping data and cache in TWRP it's called a factory reset. This doesn't format the /sdcard/0 so all sd card data remains.
If you were to flash a older base with a newer one, it may work perfectly, it may not, what I do is: Create a Nandroid of system,data,boot. Wipe, then install, then I restore data only. This way the phone tends to be (fairly) just how you left it, with messages, apps etc still remaining.
Like I said, after making a Nand, just flash unless the OP says specifically not to. Then if you have issues, it's a simple case of rolling back by restoring Data, System. I hope this answers your question, I think you'll just get the hang of how it works just by actually giving it ago, not much can really go wrong unless you start flashing things not meant for your phone.
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'4.19.401.8' that is the current base which is in use by viper. Sometimes it's okay to flash, it's trail and error.
Always make a Nand before you flash, incase anything goes wrong, you can go back to the previous version, like a windows restore point.
A fresh install is wiping data and cache in TWRP it's called a factory reset. This doesn't format the /sdcard/0 so all sd card data remains.
If you were to flash a older base with a newer one, it may work perfectly, it may not, what I do is: Create a Nandroid of system,data,boot. Wipe, then install, then I restore data only. This way the phone tends to be (fairly) just how you left it, with messages, apps etc still remaining.
Like I said, after making a Nand, just flash unless the OP says specifically not to. Then if you have issues, it's a simple case of rolling back by restoring Data, System. I hope this answers your question, I think you'll just get the hang of how it works just by actually giving it ago, not much can really go wrong unless you start flashing things not meant for your phone.
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Thank you very much for the info. So now I understand what the base is. Aside from time or laziness I would think that doing a full wipe is the way to go. Maybe I am wrong but I would rather not take chances.
Right now Iam currently having some issues. I basically did a dirty flash of the same version I am on to clear the theme and it went wrong. It never came back up after an hour in the "starting applications" state. After that I got back in to recovery (TWRP) and did full wipes and installs. They seem to go OK but then the android setup crashes right after the "name your device" part and the launcher wont start (chose Nova). Everything just hangs. I reboot but then it just hangs. I just did my nandroid restore and I am back up and running but not sure what is going wrong. I tried the install a few times with different options but everytime the setup part crashes. So my simple question is now another full blown issue haha.
I love this board tho, everyone is so helpful. One day I hope to be the one giving the advice.
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'4.19.401.8' that is the current base which is in use by viper. Sometimes it's okay to flash, it's trail and error.
Always make a Nand before you flash, incase anything goes wrong, you can go back to the previous version, like a windows restore point.
A fresh install is wiping data and cache in TWRP it's called a factory reset. This doesn't format the /sdcard/0 so all sd card data remains.
If you were to flash a older base with a newer one, it may work perfectly, it may not, what I do is: Create a Nandroid of system,data,boot. Wipe, then install, then I restore data only. This way the phone tends to be (fairly) just how you left it, with messages, apps etc still remaining.
Like I said, after making a Nand, just flash unless the OP says specifically not to. Then if you have issues, it's a simple case of rolling back by restoring Data, System. I hope this answers your question, I think you'll just get the hang of how it works just by actually giving it ago, not much can really go wrong unless you start flashing things not meant for your phone.
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May I ask, is restoring the data folder similar to adb backup/restore or even titanium? With titanium I could just restore messages or whatever. Doing the whole data folder could put back something I dont want or something I want to get rid of. With my current situation I think this might solve my issue with setup but I really wanted to start from scratch and retweak everything.
Regarding the base, I cant seem to find where I can check that on the device. It is not in settings-about where I would expect to find it.
I am finally working my nerve up to try this again and figure out why the initial android setup is crashing. I am getting more comfortable now especially since I know my nandroid restore works. Good fun but scares the hell out of me at the same time when things go wrong haha....
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May I ask, is restoring the data folder similar to adb backup/restore or even titanium? With titanium I could just restore messages or whatever. Doing the whole data folder could put back something I dont want or something I want to get rid of. With my current situation I think this might solve my issue with setup but I really wanted to start from scratch and retweak everything.
Regarding the base, I cant seem to find where I can check that on the device. It is not in settings-about where I would expect to find it.
I am finally working my nerve up to try this again and figure out why the initial android setup is crashing. I am getting more comfortable now especially since I know my nandroid restore works. Good fun but scares the hell out of me at the same time when things go wrong haha....
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Ususally most issues regarding cross flashed bases are problems derived from the system partition, however i'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I've never really had many issues restoring data. Also, once you back up data , you can install a Nandroid manager app where you can restore certain things from nand backups. This is what I chose to use over things like titanium as it's just another thing to do
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Ususally most issues regarding cross flashed bases are problems derived from the system partition, however i'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I've never really had many issues restoring data. Also, once you back up data , you can install a Nandroid manager app where you can restore certain things from nand backups. This is what I chose to use over things like titanium as it's just another thing to do
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Thank you very much. I have heard back and forth on wiping the system but had never done it till now. I am still not sure what was happening. in my initial installs I allways removed sense and used Nova. The last time I left Sense and most off the apps. I also 're-downloaded the zip. it worked like a charm. soon I will start investigating kernals and updating firmwae and antennas. Will play with the basics for a while first tho. eventually I would like to try my own. However the bar is set high with venomone.
I am now dealing with sense which is ok bit for me Nova is as close to perfect a launcher for me. still investigating battery lifevetc but will probably do another flash removing sense. venomone fixed everything I didnt like about it for the most part but I love to be able to swipe up or down anywhere to get quickbar and app drawer... still testing tho, I have a full life but definitely want to contribute here... my new obsession.
ok, so i was trying to root my sprint htc one, and everything was going, ok. i unlocked the bootloader simple enough. then i wanted to back up the data, before i tried putting roms on it. well twrp kept saying i only had about 34 mb of space which made no sense since i had formatted it, and only brought back things like contacts and texts. when i checked my phone it said that i had 24gbs. so i couldnt find an answer to this anywhere so while looking through twrp i saw the wipe function. not having seen anything about it, i said, maybe if i reformat it again, itl clear up. so i hit wipe all. well after it was done it only said i had 1.2 gbs, so still confused i went to load my normal os, well i cant. because wiping everything meant the system data the os is on. i spend hours trying to find a fix, as im only able to go between the bootloader and twrp, and i see a sideload option, and after following the steps, i attempt to sideload. everything is going well. Viper looks like its about to install, until at the last second it says install fail. but now i cant even access the recovery menu. literally stuck in the boot loader option. all my contacts and pictures and stuff are backed up, so i have no problem formatting my phone to scratch if it means fixing this, but can anyone point me in the right direction???? i cant find anything on this, ive been searching through this site, and some people with similar issues solve it by sheer luck, but i have no rom back up(since i was trying to do that when i got into this problem) please please help!!!
**edit** i was able to get into twrp by using the recovery steps, though im just back to square 1. is there a guarenteed reliable sideloader that can work?
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Try the latest RUU first if it does not work follow the guide from the beginning it will get you fixed up.
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ok, so i was trying to root my sprint htc one, and everything was going, ok. i unlocked the bootloader simple enough. then i wanted to back up the data, before i tried putting roms on it. well twrp kept saying i only had about 34 mb of space which made no sense since i had formatted it, and only brought back things like contacts and texts. when i checked my phone it said that i had 24gbs. so i couldnt find an answer to this anywhere so while looking through twrp i saw the wipe function. not having seen anything about it, i said, maybe if i reformat it again, itl clear up. so i hit wipe all. well after it was done it only said i had 1.2 gbs, so still confused i went to load my normal os, well i cant. because wiping everything meant the system data the os is on. i spend hours trying to find a fix, as im only able to go between the bootloader and twrp, and i see a sideload option, and after following the steps, i attempt to sideload. everything is going well. Viper looks like its about to install, until at the last second it says install fail. but now i cant even access the recovery menu. literally stuck in the boot loader option. all my contacts and pictures and stuff are backed up, so i have no problem formatting my phone to scratch if it means fixing this, but can anyone point me in the right direction???? i cant find anything on this, ive been searching through this site, and some people with similar issues solve it by sheer luck, but i have no rom back up(since i was trying to do that when i got into this problem) please please help!!!
**edit** i was able to get into twrp by using the recovery steps, though im just back to square 1. is there a guarenteed reliable sideloader that can work?
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Do you still have the memory issue? If so, try running a RUU, and see if that fixes your problem.
If not, just use adb sideload to sideload a ROM. Then wipe everything except internal storage and install the ROM normally.
EDIT: Looks like @BD619 ninja'd me XD
BTW sideload very rarely works when you wipe your sdcard.
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Try the latest RUU first if it does not work follow the guide from the beginning it will get you fixed up.
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hey thanks for the reply. i followed the guide and after some effort, everything seemed good, but when i was trying to load 5.03 sense 6 rom, i got to the htc start up, then it defaulted back to the bootloader..i went with the deodex version of the download, should i try the odex? or a different version all together?
and now it doesnt want to boot into recovery mode either! going to try redoing the steps, but i just cant figure out what the problem is
**edit* i cant fix twrp. the title loads, but thats it. endless loop
ok i got it to seemingly work. restoring content now. sat in fron of my pc for 15 hours...not even sure where imat or if i got any closer to rooting..smh..thank you everyone who helped. if anyone comes across this
to get out of the endless cycle of recover/loading screen.. delete your twrp, or whatevs your using. even if you have the latest, just redownload it. worked for me. i guess there is a huge difference between the odex and the deodex.i had figured deodex was a more refined version, but maybe it had more complicated software. in any case, if you are at a point where you dont have a base os, and you make it this far, go with odex, it worked for me. htc is big on back up, so i was more worried about having to scrap my phone then i was regaining data, especially with most of my stuff backed up to google drive. hopefully you guys are careful.
now...about this backup issue i had in the first place. how can i fix the storage issue? i have a 32 gb phone minus partition leaves me with over 24gb..why is it going based off the separate phonememory slot? why cant i change it?
I have a rooted phone with twrp installed. I've never made a firmware backup before, and I am not sure what is the best way to do it.
Ideally I would want an exact copy of the .img file, So if anything happens I could restore my phone to the previous original factory image. But I am not sure if it is possible to make a complete backup like that.
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Altho I don't use TWRP but use CTR/CWM.....they are similar in that these custom recoveries (and others) offer backup of "current" firmware.
You would need to find the Official ROM for your device and flash it......except for the recovery which I assume you want to keep TWRP
Then you can reboot into TWRP and make a backup.
The backup is now a TWRP version of the original firmware.
Does that make it clearer?
2) IMHO because of upgrades, you will be better off just making TWRP backups of your current phone setup.
If you restore a made TWRP official images.....it will take you some time to do all the updates, assuming you use playstore.
good luck
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You would need to find the Official ROM for your device and flash it......
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problem is, i can't get it. even contacting the company was no help. thats why I was hoping to somehow pull it off my phone first... but seems like that isnt possible?
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I can't see what your phone is, maybe you can add it to your signature or reply.
OK now I understand why you posted....thanks for that.
Lets pretend the only thing you did to this phone was to root it and add apps
then go into either bootloader menu then factory reset......CTR offers factory reset as well .....so hopefully TWRP will as well
otherwise
or direct into factory reset
-----some phones can only do one way.....normally vol down plus power or vol down plus camera button plus power gets some devices into factory reset mode
reset for most devices won't delete all data and root.....you should do this thru your recovery option.
Howerver........please don't do this until you have done a full TWRP backup and made a change and then confirmed you can do a full restore.
Once done.....check "installed" playstore apps and uninstall any still showing......they can be installed later from the "all apps" tab
This is about the closest you will get to official firmware without the official rom......YMMV and try at own risk.
Note that some devices can be a bit touchy in factory reset mode so you may need to redo a wipe function.
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I think I might have found my factory firmware.
According to my phone, my original firmware is 139.4.6.ghost_row.ACG.en.US and one of those files that I got it from here http://motofirmware.com/files/category/9-ghost/ is ACG_XT1050_4.4.2-KXA20.16-1.31_CFC_1FF.xml.zip
But I don't know how to tell for sure if they'll be a match, but its the closes I've been able to find so far.
my model is moto x, xt1050
http://motofirmware.com/files/file/128-acg-xt1050-442-kxa2016-131-cfc-1ffxmlzip/
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=5957&c=motorola_moto_x_xt1050_cdma_motorola_ghost
it looks like 442 refers to your android vesion and matches the spec page
KXA20.16-1.31 could be your build string?
see this post pls
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/index-welcome-to-motorola-moto-x-t2558785
as that user has a lot of info you may wish to post to it?
I am sure OP can offer better advice than me. good luck
Well if you just want a twrp back up of your factory firmware...make a back up of your current configuration of your device (really do this!).
Then factory reset your phone. There are many ways to do this...but it is up to you. Then go back into TWRP and make a back up of the newly reset
device. Once it is done, save that back up on your device and somewhere else...just in case. To get back to your original configuration, just use twrp
to restore the back up you made at the beginning.
I'm gonna sell this phone as rooted, so yes I DO KNOW the factory resets keeps the root and recovery and all that. But can I SAFELY do a factory reset from the Settings, just to remove my personal info. The phone has stock rom, but is rooted and has TWRP installed. Thanks.
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I'm gonna sell this phone as rooted, so yes I DO KNOW the factory resets keeps the root and recovery and all that. But can I SAFELY do a factory reset from the Settings, just to remove my personal info. The phone has stock rom, but is rooted and has TWRP installed. Thanks.
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I'd use a Rom Update Utility (RUU) on it before selling it... You can always just flash the recovery after, the same way you did it before. Because that will definitely get rid of anything you have on it, and I would put a different SD card in it to!
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I'd use a Rom Update Utility (RUU) on it before selling it... You can always just flash the recovery after, the same way you did it before. Because that will definitely get rid of anything you have on it, and I would put a different SD card in it to!
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Ah gotcha! Thanks
Just out of interest, if I just did a plain reset in settings, would it like, screw up my phone? I assume not, since the rooting/recovery is stored in different partitions, and factory resets only /data (user data)?
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Ah gotcha! Thanks
Just out of interest, if I just did a plain reset in settings, would it like, screw up my phone? I assume not, since the rooting/recovery is stored in different partitions, and factory resets only /data (user data)?
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No it won't screw up the phone but the thing is your personal information could still be on there just overwritten and someone who's smart enough could still get the information restored and do whatever with it so if you've done banking and stuff on it I'd advise you to use the RUU and completely wipe the SD card or put another one in there because you can still restore overwritten information..