Hi all firstly great forums, secondly i am a complete tard when it comes to technology so be gentle please..........
Ok i just recieved my Diamond 2 and i was wondering if you could help me with the basic upgrades i should get right away before i do anything with it ie 6.5, ROM stuff etc bear in mind i havent a clue about these phones as it is my first new phone for along time.
Also which memory card should i buy for about £20...£35 i want an 8-16gb, do i need to get a micro or normal size ? a class 2, 4, 6 make website i could get a decent trustworthy one from the uk.
The phone is from London and sim free if that helps.
So is there any upgrades that are a must or i should definately get before i start playing around with it.Would like a really nice looking OSrom if poss and not complicated as i will only really use the basics atm GPRS Sat Nav Tom Tom etc. Also a radio Rom ??
The upgrades on HTC site there is a big list do i need to DL and install all of these or ? http://www.htc.com/europe/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=249&act=sd&cat=all
Also i read and found http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Enhancements/Spb-Mobile-Shell-31386.shtml
Is there a place to get the full free is it a good OS (SPB-Mobile-Shell 3.5.1)
A small list of things i should DL would really help me.
As you can see im pretty clueless so any help would be really appriciated.
Thanks in advance for any replies and for your time.
Peter
First of all... welcome.
Start reading the stickys in section "Topaz ROM development". There you find threads for ROM and radioROM.
You need micro-SD cart. I'm sure it's in the manual... Speed of it isn't that important if you don't gonna transfer movies and so every day...
You don't need to install all the updates if you go directly for a new rom.
SPB is shareware, so no free ones. But I think you can try it for free some days.
One last thing... reading, reading, searching, searching and don't open several new threads with probs...
Happy flashing...
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I'm sure it's been covered in a thread but I'm not able to find it so would appreciate someone explaining the following......
Is it possible to flash my bog standard M700 with the latest HTC ROM from their website?
I've been given a copy but I couldn't download it because of the Orange IMEI number would not resolve. Presumably there are no issues due to this and it will work just fine?
Lastly, has anyone written a step by step idiot guide to doing this? If not could someone please reply and tell me? I'm not all that techy with ROMs but can am OK with PCs and registry stuff etc.
Many thanks in advance!!
You're right it has been covered ;-), HOWEVER.....
NO you cannt use the HTC version on the Orange M700, it's just for the HTC branded phones. SO now relax and get a cooked version... Either MUN-RUS OR LVSW's are good. I personally have the LVSW version......
Look for it in the Trinity WM6 forum.
In the first post is ALL the software you need, grab all 3 bits of software, apply them in order as listed in the instructions. And thats it, shiney new WM6 M700.... however remeber after you do this to remake all the MMS settings etc etc otherwise Photo Messaging etc etc wont work BUT on Oranges' web site there is a "me Proof" guide to putting it right ;-)
Thats it, go get'em fella
Thanks, Just out of interest, why won't the HTC ROM work, after all it's still an HTC device!
Being lazy... do you have the link to the post please?
So you found this site, BUT cannt within this site find the Trinity Mobile 6 Forum or read the very first 2 posts in there?
Get a grip ;-)
As for the HTC thing... guess it's to stop people taking thier software off them and using it elsewhere, and all the troubles that entails with licsencing etc, ALSO dont forget Orange "Value Add" to the phone (brand the day lights out of it ;-) )
Yes found the link!! Just didn't think it was that obvious so wasn't looking at the top! Dohh!
What's Value Add?
Can anyone point me toward instructions on how to extract or backup my exiting Orange M700 ROM in can the upgrade goes pear shapped?
Still a little confused as to why the HTC ROM will not work. Can someone explain properly please?
It is all explained on the forums if, as deech says you "get a grip"
Do a search.
The reason upgrading will not work is mentioned in this the upgrade forum if you look. If you can't even look for it I'm not sure you'll understand the information though as it would involve thinking.
The way to backup a rom is also mentioned in this forum. In fact if you could be bothered to search you could quite easily find one that's already been made by one of the members of this forum in this forum section. It's even on this first page of this upgrade forum.
I don't quite agree with Deech though. I say you should get off your lazy arse and actually look for the information you want rather than just expecting everyone to point out information that's right in front of your eyes if you just look.
Sorry to flame but it drives me nuts that people can be so lazy and expect everyone else to find the information for them.
Value Add..... all those shiney little things that Orange and Vodafone etc add to the basic software, Like the WAP portal, Today Pages, etc etc, a straight HTC ROM (or Nokia, or Motorloa) ROM is very plain and boring, but often works sooo much better than that provided by the Mobile Company after they have "tinkered" with it, hence Value Added.
I agree though you shouldnt be re-flashing your phone if you cannt work the search button and read and FULLY understand what the hell is happening, and how to make things right IF they go wrong ;-)
If you know ehere something is it take 10 seconds to actually be helpful and tell someone whos asks in a polite manner!!
For example you would have trouble finding the difference between a half inch Whitworth and a half in UNC bolt!! I, on the other hand could tell you in less then 10 seconds.
Thanks for all your help!
Excuse me all overe the place BUT... I've just trawled through here and can't find anywhere that says the M700 cannot be flashed with the latest Trinity ROM from HTC, and the reasons why.
Am I right?
Here's what you do. Download the official HTC ROM and try flashing your phone with it, then you might actually believe us when we tell you that you can't flash your phone with it. The official reason that you can't use it on your phone is because your phone isn't actually an HTC phone, it's an Orange SPV M700. Or so they'll have you believe.
I understand the difference between a half" Whitty and a half" UNC. One's a Whitty and one's a UNC, easy
Read the forums, then ask questions.
Peace,
BS...
MIZZO1628 said:
Excuse me all overe the place BUT... I've just trawled through here and can't find anywhere that says the M700 cannot be flashed with the latest Trinity ROM from HTC, and the reasons why.
Am I right?
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Hi m8, Looks like you're in need of a little friendly advice, so here goes!
Despite what they're all telling you in this thread, you *CAN* quite easily flash the latest HTC Trinity ROM to your M700... You will first need to unlock your phone OR use the SoftSPL method described in this thread:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
Unfortunately, you will need to educate yourself a little to achieve what you desire and this means READ and UNDESTAND the above thread before you attempt anything!
All the ROM's you could ever wish for are available through this site, here :-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Trinity_Upgrades
To be even more helpful, the HTC ROM you require is here :-
http://rapidshare.com/files/2296300...1_1_.23.405.2_103_6275_1.38.00.11_108_GPS.exe
(Looking at one of your other help question threads, it looks like you don't know how to download from Rapidshare, you need to go to the bottom of the above linked page and click the "FREE" button, then choose your download site from the page that follows... enter the security key as shown and dah dah.... a download!)
If you need any further help then PM me, rather than filling up this thread any further!
I hope this helps!
Moz.
MIZZO1628 said:
For example you would have trouble finding the difference between a half inch Whitworth and a half in UNC bolt!! I, on the other hand could tell you in less then 10 seconds.
Thanks for all your help!
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Happy to help, but you ask a question I answered it.
As for showing off about Whit / UNC threads..... dont judge books by thier covers, in real life I am a Marine Engineer serving on some of the largest container ships ever built in a very senior position
Now please please take the time to learn about your phone, read all the fora here, and sort out what it is you want to do. And happy flashing once you pop you cannt stop
LOL. is all I can say. You haven't got a hope in hell.
You CAN'T flash the HTC to an M700 because it's locked to Orange. (Similar to a sim lock... Need that explained? Or can you search now??)
Unlock it and you're laughing. (As Mozzer says)
When I posted last, less than 5 posts below yours asking about backing up the rom was the post containing the last link Mozzer has given you, as I said it was even on the first page of threads, not far to look. A forum search for M700 would have shown it immediately.
Backing up the ROM is much harder than flashing it so would have been out of the question for you.
As for UNC and Whitworth. All I can say is congratulations. You, like pretty much all of us (if not all of us) here, also have knowledge in other fields.
I won't bother trying to make myself look big by quizzing you.
I have to admit I have very little knowledge of these devices and am forever endebted to the members of this forum for the information that is shared here and the work put in by many. The difference between you and me is I don't demand it on a plate.
I can use the search engine and look at Stickies. They're stickied for a reason! That reason is either to warn you of forum regulations OR because they are important.
It's not that hard to look in the Trinity subforum and at the first topic which is a link to the Trinity Wiki. (U know what a wiki is? Or is that not of interest as it's not UNC?)
In the Trinity Upgrading sub forum:
5 posts below this (probably seven when I submit this) is a thread entitled:
Moz's RUU_Trinity_Orange_UK_1.23.61.5_1.38.00.11_GSM_NoI PL_NoSPL.exe
Hmmmmmmmmmm. Wonder what that is..... I admit it's a tad convoluted. But you know you have a trinity which is badged by orange.
Third sticky down is entitled:
SSPL (or flashing any ROM 4 free)
Can't think what that's about. I want to flash my M700 with HTC branded.. Could this help? Naah I'll just save time and get everyone to do it for me.
In the Trinity Mobile 6 forum:
First 2 Stickies.. Wonder what they do. Won't bother looking.
Can anyone tell me how to wipe my arse. I've lost the ability to see and use my hands.
In my last post if you look I gave you some clues as to where you could find what you wanted. I'm on alot of forums and people who can't be arsed to have a look for themselves piss me off. If you'd looked and said I've found this that and the other but I'm not sure about it could someone help explain please I'd have done what I could to explain. But you couldn't even do that!
Many Thanks MOZZER!
At least there is someone here who has taken the time to be helpful.
So Deech... what is the difference i between half inch Whit and UNC?
Hi Mozzerr!
As you were kind enough to help with sensible answers could you please advise on the following:
I feel that the Orange ROM on the M700 seems a bit shaky and the GPS take forever to make a cold start... just a gut feeling it's probably the ROM hence the view to flash it.
In your opinion are there any major advantager to WM6 over the HTC release. I don't use 3G stuff or other advance comms mail etc. just the Phone, Active synce stuff, MP3s, Camera and TomTom via the GPS?
What would you do?
Ah now a sensible question.
WM6 is considerably faster than WM5 when it comes to loading menus and programs (and as far as I've found is completely stable).
There currently appear to be a few people who have a battery drain issue, which I for one have not had and should be ironed out soon.
If you use tomtom there is a cab somewhere (I forget where) in the Windows Mobile 6 forum called ATIfix.cab which fixes the freeze issue (if you get it).
If you're going to go to WM6, which I personally would recommend, you can always flash back to the HTC flash if you don't like it.
TBH other than speed for what you've listed as items you use it'd be more about the look and feel of it, so try both and go with what you're happier with.
I hope that helps.
Just remember you loose all the Orange Branding when you flash, so "IF" you find any of it remotely useful it will disappear, including settings for MMS etc.
The Tom Tom Freeze thing seems pretty common, mine idi it big time, but everything else is nicer, faster and smoother.
WM6 is..... nice and well worth it
There is a cab on the forums with all the MMS setting on this forum. I think I linked relinked it somewhere in the Mobile 6 forum, plus some people have extracted several of the orange programs and posted them.
hey guys
i have searched through alot of forum and sites but i can't find the stuff i am looking for
seeing alot of kaiser lovers here i hoped you guys could help me
i have wm 6.0 wanted to update to 6.1y can't find how or with what (patch/rom?)or cab?
olso i cant play things with flash 7 is there a way to do that?
i olso want to use touchflo manilla 2d like in the sticky but if it goes bad will it bring my kaiser in problems?and so what kind of problems
and last after alot of searching i found some ppc apps sites but are there apps for kaiser which are must haves?
thanks to all who reads or helps
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hey guys
i have searched through alot of forum and sites but i can't find the stuff i am looking for
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Wow, man, Really what could you have read if you can't find these answers? They are all here. They are all listed in google. Hell I just did a google search for; tilt 6.1 update and came up 1st to this site..... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=tilt+6.1+update
That said;
1. If I was you, I would just install the ATT rom for your phone. No hassels, and since you have a hard time figuring stuff out on our own there ain't much to worry about. Get it here. http://www.htc.com/us/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=67&cat=all
You want the : AT&T Tilt Update - Version 3.57.502.2
This will run Manilla 2d without any issues that I have seen.
2. Other than that man you are on your own. What applications are must haves is a personal choice. What I must have and what you must have are really two different things.
3. As for flash 7 I just use skyfire. It plays everything. Google it and sign up. Its really just that easy.
4. I might have suggested a rom or two for ya, but you don't even list if your phone is unlocked which leads me to believe that it isn't, at least not by your hands, so I steared clear of the thought
Good Luck. Do alot more reading. Alot, and then read it all again.
thnx for the reply in the link of yours i cant find a cab or download file i have found one today but i need to connect it with my pc which crashed last week so i will do it somewhere today on work
skyfire is only for usa and i live in europe
i don't think its unlocked at least not by me
Hi all, I've been reading through this forum for the past week now, partially because of all the bad reviews for the Tilt, and partially because I like my devices to work better than they "should".
I've reached a problem though... During my readings, I began to get confused with why this ROM or that ROM was flashed on, and which version of WinCE was on at the time the ROM was flashed. As my brand new-still in the box Tilt (With Win6.1) will be here this Thursday, I find myself wondering "So what do I do to make my phone better?"
This is my first smart phone I've ever had, and the main reason I purchased it is so I can write while in transit to work or such, occasionally watch a movie or listen to some music, oh, and to use the internet. Unfortunately, this also means I seem to have missed the class on safely flashing ROMs, if I need to sit and write down phone information that may not be stored on the SIM, and even the most basic of all, "Do I need to do this to make it run smoothly?" I mean, most of the problems I seem to see deal with Win 5.x, or 6.0.
I reckon the best way to phrase it is, "While I would like to make it better, I want to know if (1) it's worth taking the time to do, and (2) what kind of boost are we looking at? 10%? 50? 100%?"
Any opinions, help, advice, directions or links, how-to's or whatever would greatly be appreciated.
~T.Miller
Trey_Miller said:
Hi all, I've been reading through this forum for the past week now, partially because of all the bad reviews for the Tilt, and partially because I like my devices to work better than they "should".
I've reached a problem though... During my readings, I began to get confused with why this ROM or that ROM was flashed on, and which version of WinCE was on at the time the ROM was flashed. As my brand new-still in the box Tilt (With Win6.1) will be here this Thursday, I find myself wondering "So what do I do to make my phone better?"
This is my first smart phone I've ever had, and the main reason I purchased it is so I can write while in transit to work or such, occasionally watch a movie or listen to some music, oh, and to use the internet. Unfortunately, this also means I seem to have missed the class on safely flashing ROMs, if I need to sit and write down phone information that may not be stored on the SIM, and even the most basic of all, "Do I need to do this to make it run smoothly?" I mean, most of the problems I seem to see deal with Win 5.x, or 6.0.
I reckon the best way to phrase it is, "While I would like to make it better, I want to know if (1) it's worth taking the time to do, and (2) what kind of boost are we looking at? 10%? 50? 100%?"
Any opinions, help, advice, directions or links, how-to's or whatever would greatly be appreciated.
~T.Miller
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First Trey, let me say, welcome to XDA! The biggest improvment you can do to your Tilt is going to be a ROM upgrade! The ROM is the OS of your phone and as you are getting a newer tilt you will most likely have Windows Mobile 6.1 on it but it will include a quote\unquote "custom ROM" from at&t which will be chock full of alot of at&t stuff(advertising in the way of logos and animation) that will slow your phone down, as well as a CID (security lock) to keep you for installing most of the good free apps that are available for the tilt! You will want to spend alot of time reading here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835 and getting to know your device and what some of the terms used here are! I am usualy on the forum quite a bit and if you have questions feel free to PM me and ask away! The key is to read and learn, I will be happy to help if you need it!
Thanks for that! Everything makes more sense now that I've got that AT&T OS piece understood. Looks like I've got more reading to do. ^_^
Hi
a friend recommended I look at this site. But to be honest, I am not too up with how these ROMs work!
All I want is some updates for my X1 and some applications that are more user friendly, particularly SMS, and basically to make my phone more fun to use.
If anyone can point me to one download that will be effective I would be most grateful, as I'm not technically minded at all!
Thanks
Steve
ROMs are a complete replacement of the operating system on your device, and necessarily involves a complete reset of your data. Not for the faint of heart!
If you're just after apps, check out this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=498
Good luck! I'm sure you'll find some great stuff to transform your X1. You certainly want to get the SPB mobile shell from the SE Korea site, and read the tips to get it working (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541280).
You're in the right place!
All I can tell you is you're in the right place... I was just in your shoes just a few months ago..
1st) I just wanted more panels http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498934
Then I wanted more and wanted to experience the new look and feel of windows mobile 6.5. So I realized I had to back up my data first and any third party apps I had on my device -
2nd) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705
3rd) I had to hard-spl because it seems to be mandatory prior to using one of the custom roms (read carefully, take your time)-> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431218
4th) I tried a lot of the custom roms available and believe me there's about 4 to 6 that I toggle between everytime they release because they introduce some of the new apps , features,etc.. One I'm using now is here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542664
Read up as much as you can about ROM's and the like, I know you don't want to get too 'into' all this stuff - but really custom ROMs make the x1 much, much easier and nicer to use. You don't have to be all that tech savy either.
Also, welcome to XDA....its a ton of info, on here. but dont worry you will get the hang of it, and ask as many questions as you need to..the folks on here are very helpful, but with so many request, they get bogged down a bit
so research first, then ask questions, then research some more while you wait for an answer...
welcome to xda!
Here's just a few things to inform you about to break you in a bit to the modding for your x1.
1.This is the topic you read if you ever wanted to mod your ROM or restore to your original ROM
2. here's a topic that has some good applications to help your phone run more smoothly and also more fun. highly recommand xperiatweak2( very very useful program to help get rid of some annoying things in the x1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441439
3. Be nice to your battery and also about the number of times you do softresets (you can read up on what soft and hard resets are on the forum), because it could cause your phone to stop working. which something I experienced painful for myself!!! now I have to send my phone back to sony ericsson to get my phone fixed and also get a new battery beacuse it died on me.
4. In reply to carlonalls about hardspl on x1. it is mandatory in order to any type of ROM modification or repairs to be done
5. save all your important things in your memory card before you do any type of modifications to your phone.
6. I highly recommand you to get google maps if you want a free gps map to use when your out (although not totally safe to use unless you have a x1 car holder because it can get distracting). if you'd be willing to pay the extra money, then get either TOMTOM or Garmin Mobile XT (which both are quite good).
So, I hope you have a good time with your x1 and also on this forum. This forum do have a lot of nice people who are quite encouraging and willing to help. I for one have experience the goodness of certain members that are here.
Hi all firstly great forums, secondly i am a complete tard when it comes to technology so be gentle please..........
Ok i just recieved my Diamond 2 and i was wondering if you could help me with the basic upgrades i should get right away before i do anything with it and how to do those ie 6.5, ROM stuff etc bear in mind i havent a clue about these phones as it is my first new phone for along time.
Also which memory card should i buy for about £20...£35 i want an 8-16gb, do i need to get a micro or normal size ? a class 2, 4, 6 ?
The phone is from London and sim free if that helps.
So is there any upgrades that are a must or i should definately get before i start playing around with it.
Thanks in advance for any replies and for your time.
Peter
Peter, you better post this in the right forum, this is the Diamond (1) forum, and you have a Diamond 2, that's known here as Topaz.
btw...to upgrade your Topaz to WM6.5 i believe there is an official ROM released by HTC, i'm sure there's a link to that one in the Topaz ROM development forum; this ROM you can flash 'out of the box' cuz it's an official one.
However, if you want to upgrade to another, custom WM6.5. ROM you have to run HardSPL on the phone to be able to do that.
Start reading the Topaz ROM development forum (esp the stickies with very usefull info) and you'll figure it out i'm sure.
Good luck and congrats with your new phone...it's way faster then the Diamond 1, but not as beautiful
Thanks alot for pointing me in the right direction i was abit lost on the forums as to where to post.
Thanks again.