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Hello all,
I installed Manilla 2D on my Kaiser two weeks ago. I'm really happy with it, except that I experience a few freezes.
These freezes were happening often at the begining. I disabled the automatic update feature into the weather forecast widget. Then, the freezes quantity decreased a lot !
But they are still there. They appear randomly, whatever I do. They last about 5 seconds, and they appear about once every 10 minutes (but it does not happen when using IGO for hours, for exemple ...).
I'm using the original HTC 6.1 ROM with hard SPL 3.29.
I had no freezes with this ROM before installing Manilla 2D, so I'm sure my problem does not come from my ROM or hard SPL.
Does someone know where does my problem come from ?
Thanks a lot !
remeber everything about that is still a beta there wil be bugs in it.
OK, but does someone else experience these freezes ?
Because if I'm the only one, that means there must be something to do to avoid them.
I was getting freezes on one of the roms I tried (I can't remember which one) and I fixed it by changing my radio. It might be worth experimenting a bit with that.
I didn't change my ROM, I just installed Manilla 2D on my already in use ROM. Before installing Manilla, I had no freezes at all. So I don't think my problem comes from the radio. There must be something wrong with Manilla 2D somewhere (a parameter or something like that)...
Mine freezes all the time, but I have Sock ATT 6.1 ROM. Most of the freezes happen when scroll to the mail tab.
dancj said:
I was getting freezes on one of the roms I tried (I can't remember which one) and I fixed it by changing my radio. It might be worth experimenting a bit with that.
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Well, I just found that my freezes only happen when I leave the flight mode ... So finally it may be related to the radio ... I will try to change it but I still do not understand why this problem did not exist before installing Manilla 2D !
Thanks for your answer anyway !
OK, so here are the first results of my tests :
my original radio version was 1.65.17.56.
I did load the radio version 1.71.09.01.
For now about 15 minutes, my Kaiser did not freeze at all !
So thanks a lot for your help !!! Especially to DancJ
EDIT : well, in fact I still have some freezes, but a lot less, and when they appear they only last around 1 second. So it's a lot better, but not perfect ... I still would be glad to know where do these freezes come from ...
EDIT 2 : after now 24 hours of use, no more freezes at all ... So it looks like the radio version upgrade was the solution.
bennyj71 said:
Mine freezes all the time, but I have Sock ATT 6.1 ROM. Most of the freezes happen when scroll to the mail tab.
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I have that problem all the time. Did you ever figure it out.
(yes, I know this thread is old)
I recently ran into an odd problem. I updated my phone from 2.1 to 2.2 Froyo Test 4, then to RC1. I use overclocker app, launcher pro, and advance task killer mainly.
My problem is: When I use my phone, sometimes the screen will not allow me to touch icons, unlock it, ..etc. All it does it move the notification bar up and down like I am touching the top of the screen. If I keep trying to "turn screen off, back on, off, back on"...eventually, I will be able to use the phone for a couple of minutes before it happens again. I tried disabling/reducing overlock settings, uninstalling launcher pro, downgrading 2.2 to 2.1 (ICERoM 2.8). None of this helps.
Any ideas?
Note: Sorry if this was explained elsewhere. I tried searching my best.
Kernal Version: 2.6.29-Godmode-oc-bfs (toast)
Where do you live? I live in florida, and this happens to me when I'm outside for an extended period on a really humid day. Once I take it in to the ac for a few, it's all ok.
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Louisiana. Doesn't seem like that would be it though. My wife has the same phone and has never experienced this problem (she has OEM 1.6 version). I am leaning towards software issue.
mar122999 said:
I recently ran into an odd problem. I updated my phone from 2.1 to 2.2 Froyo Test 4, then to RC1. I use overclocker app, launcher pro, and advance task killer mainly.
My problem is: When I use my phone, sometimes the screen will not allow me to touch icons, unlock it, ..etc. All it does it move the notification bar up and down like I am touching the top of the screen. If I keep trying to "turn screen off, back on, off, back on"...eventually, I will be able to use the phone for a couple of minutes before it happens again. I tried disabling/reducing overlock settings, uninstalling launcher pro, downgrading 2.2 to 2.1 (ICERoM 2.8). None of this helps.
Any ideas?
Note: Sorry if this was explained elsewhere. I tried searching my best.
Kernal Version: 2.6.29-Godmode-oc-bfs (toast)
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You posted this in the wrong forum
Anyway, it could be a hardware problem, but it sounds more like a software issue. Sometimes this happens to me when the phone slows down. Are you low on RAM when this happens?
Nope. Ram is ok. 70+ Mb. Seems like it all started when I upgraded to 2.2. At times, the phone is unusable. Right now, it has been working perfect for a couple of hours. I downgraded to 2.1 thinking that 2.2 was the problem, but 5 hours ago, I encountered the same problem with 2.1. So that can't be it. Screen protector maybe?
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Nope. Ram is ok. 70+ Mb. Seems like it all started when I upgraded to 2.2. At times, the phone is unusable. Right now, it has been working perfect for a couple of hours. I downgraded to 2.1 thinking that 2.2 was the problem, but 5 hours ago, I encountered the same problem with 2.1. So that can't be it. Screen protector maybe?
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Yeah, could definitely be the screen protector is changing roms doesn't help. Could also be a bad touchscreen, but most likely screen protector.
derekwilkinson said:
Yeah, could definitely be the screen protector is changing roms doesn't help. Could also be a bad touchscreen, but most likely screen protector.
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when i had one on my phone it would do this. i think its static tricking the touchscreen.
ok, here how i start, i counter lots of auto HARDRESET/dead.
when hardreset/dead this will happens ,:
-all contacts on PHONE MEMORY will gone,
-all Messages will gone,
-battery will be lost more then 30%,
-wasting time,
-need to align screen,
now what is the most worst part is, when i push the power button, stuck on SE logo and sometimes will go to "align screen" settings, about 3-5mins,i dont know what can i call it, SOD?FREEZE?ZOMBIE phone?
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ok, here how i start, i counter lots of auto HARDRESET/dead.
when hardreset/dead this will happens ,:
-all contacts on PHONE MEMORY will gone,
-all Messages will gone,
-battery will be lost more then 30%,
-wasting time,
-need to align screen,
now what is the most worst part is, when i push the power button, stuck on SE logo and sometimes will go to "align screen" settings, about 3-5mins,i dont know what can i call it, SOD?FREEZE?ZOMBIE phone?
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Hard Reset is by definition a full (=hard) reset to original (ROM or factory) settings - consequently most of the points you mentioned above are pretty normal. Only battery drain seems a bit too much, but that might depend on the ROM you use (or your battery's age)
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Hard Reset is by definition a full (=hard) reset to original (ROM or factory) settings - consequently most of the points you mentioned above are pretty normal. Only battery drain seems a bit too much, but that might depend on the ROM you use (or your battery's age)
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maybe, i m not sure, i m just wondering, why my phone always stuck and must do that thingy? i hate it, any suggestion?
Huns said:
ok, here how i start, i counter lots of auto HARDRESET/dead.
when hardreset/dead this will happens ,:
-all contacts on PHONE MEMORY will gone,
-all Messages will gone,
-battery will be lost more then 30%,
-wasting time,
-need to align screen,
now what is the most worst part is, when i push the power button, stuck on SE logo and sometimes will go to "align screen" settings, about 3-5mins,i dont know what can i call it, SOD?FREEZE?ZOMBIE phone?
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I'm not an advance member but if I were you, I will flash my X1 with other ROM. If it still occurs, hardware problem (but honestly) I have never heard such problem in PocketPC designed over WM5+.
Huns said:
maybe, i m not sure, i m just wondering, why my phone always stuck and must do that thingy? i hate it, any suggestion?
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AFAIK it has never been fully revealed how and why some ROMs create more or less frequent SODs - there are quite a few threads on that topic in the forum.
JeromeJaques19's suggestion is not bad, you should take that into consideration.
Another option would be to start off with a freshly hard-resetted ROM and adding your own applications one by one, checking carefully after each one if stability is affected or not - chances are you find a culprit. After all, it's only Windows
surely that's ROM problem.. just change your ROM.. 826x is the most stable sense ROM.. and for non-sense ROM, use Twinge ROM..
duke_dreadmoore said:
surely that's ROM problem.. just change your ROM.. 826x is the most stable sense ROM.. and for non-sense ROM, use Twinge ROM..
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at that time, i m using 826x rom. After about 2-3 days with that kind of problems, i change to the 826x old rom, and it seems have the same problems. now i m using ENERGY rom, no lagging at all, just freeze sometimes. thanks for reply.
run Task29 (search for it here), which is a "deep wipe" of the phone ROM, then install the ROM you choose.
I personally would use a 6.1 ROM, for example Mr Rusch's with Sense 2.5 - the best of both worlds. It looks good and is stable.
I would also recommend installing Advanced Config (again on this site) and going to the power management tab and setting the last 2 options to between 30-50 seconds. The "resume" issue at is at the heart of the SODs/freezes.
First of all, my google-fu is very weak. Furthermore, the forum search engine apparently hates me, so please don't say anything about research or searching. I've tried and failed spectacularly. Also, I'm something of a newbie, so please be merciful. Thank you.
My old ROM is starting to act up, so I'm looking for a fast and stable Windows Mobile 6.5.x ROM with TouchFlo3D. Other things I can't live without are the long-press End and Call keys and the long-press Power key drop-down menu (like in the Touch X ROMs by smaberg), but if those can be installed afterwards without messing the ROM up, they're not required in the ROM itself.
Also, I never use the Xperia Panels (always delete all the Panel stuff and re-bind the X-Panel key to Nitrogen ), so not having the Panel Manager would be a plus.
I have previously used mainly the Touch X ROMs (I'm a huge fan), but they're not available in 6.5, so I'm willing to experiment with some 6.5 in order to (hopefully) find a new favorite. My current ROM is the Touch X 10.9.1 Nuts, that's the kind of speed and reliability I'm used to.
What I mainly use my Xperia for:
Calling and texting, naturally (VITO SMS-Chat)
Getting up in the morning (ageye G-Alarm)
Music (Nitrogen)
Internet (Opera Mobile 10)
GPS (Google Maps)
Notes (OneNote Mobile)
Movies (Media Player)
I'm going to install all of those by myself, so don't worry about them.
Thanks in advance for any help, guys!
Dynamics 2.0 should satisfy your needs. It's the most stable rom on this forum, at least in my testing.
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Dynamics 2.0 should satisfy your needs. It's the most stable rom on this forum, at least in my testing.
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totally agree, so far Dynamics 2.0 is the best choice.
Dynamics 2.0 seems to have TF3D all right and I can do the long-press keys by myself. I'll surely try Dynamics out.
EDIT: Found the drop-down menu thingy, it's smaberg's Actionscreen.
try one of energy's roms. they are very fast and stable, with a host of customizations.
Whoa, the Energy ROMs seem real nice, thanks for pointing them out! They might take a bit of getting used to, but in the end I think they might be worth it.
Also, while Dynamics 2.0 is probably the stablest of the two (having less modification done and all), which one is the faster one? Anyone have any experience or insight?
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Whoa, the Energy ROMs seem real nice, thanks for pointing them out! They might take a bit of getting used to, but in the end I think they might be worth it.
Also, while Dynamics 2.0 is probably the stablest of the two (having less modification done and all), which one is the faster one? Anyone have any experience or insight?
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frankly speaking Dynamics seems like a rather new ROM (post Jan 2011) and since i 'decommissioned my X1 in Dec as a secondary phone to my Milestone 2, i havent gotten around trying it. however, from my experience of using many other ROMs, i personally found energy's ROMs to be really FAST and STABLE. it shouldnt take much getting used to as its based on the HTC HD2 (with the latest HTC sense).
if you are looking for raw speed, then go for the most basic version with the least applications. i think it should be labeled as sense 2018. however if you wanna save yourself the time from installing programs from nitrogen to opera, go for his sense 2019. and since he has skinned many variants, you can choose the design you like best.
hope it helps. if u really do want, i can try find some time over the weekend to flash the Dynamics ROM and let you know how it is. do let me know anyway.
cheers
BEFORE I FORGET
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886371
you can also check this out. ROMs which do not have TouchFlo or HTC Sense tend to be comparatively faster. though i havent personally tried pure, i heard some pretty good remarks on it.
my advice, if u can, try them both out. Pure and Energy, with and without Sense, and see which suits your personal needs the best.
hope i am helping instead of confusing you. if you need any clarification, do ask.
cheers
hope i am helping instead of confusing you. if you need any clarification, do ask.
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You're not a least bit confusing, I may be a bit green but not a total newbie.
EDIT: I'm flashing Energy as we speak. Ran into a bad case of Error 262, but got over it.
Tych0n said:
You're not a least bit confusing, I may be a bit green but not a total newbie.
EDIT: I'm flashing Energy as we speak. Ran into a bad case of Error 262, but got over it.
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so sorry for the late reply. just got up from my nightly slumber...lol. anyways, glad to hear im not confusing. i tend to mix up my words sometimes.
oh ryt, i have never gotten any errors while flashing any ROMs but its good u got over it. anyhow, i do hope it is fast enough and stable enough for ur liking. as i said in my opinion of flashing many ROMs i found this the best, and hence the reason why i recommended it to u
do keep me posted on how ur finding it
EDIT: im sorry but i think i might have given you the wrong link for the PURE ROM. its actually Russel's Eclair I was on about. there arent many screenshots on it, but if you do read on you'll know that it is a very minimalistic ROM, which runs on WM6.1/6.5 without sense. and its been skinned like a stock ROM. the beta version i flashed in november was superb. you could give it a try as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=776946
Well, I'm having slight problems with how complicated the Energy ROM UI is, as well as numerous dead shortcuts and programs failing to start. Also, HTC Sense 2.5 is noticeably slower than TouchFlo3D (which my previous ROM used), so everything doesn't glide as smooth. So I'm not a huge fan, at least not yet. If I can't get this to work like I want, I'll try flashing a different Energy ROM. If that doesn't work, Dynamics 2.0. If that doesn't work... I don't know... Touch X 10.10?
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Well, I'm having slight problems with how complicated the Energy ROM UI is, as well as numerous dead shortcuts and programs failing to start. Also, HTC Sense 2.5 is noticeably slower than TouchFlo3D (which my previous ROM used), so everything doesn't glide as smooth. So I'm not a huge fan, at least not yet. If I can't get this to work like I want, I'll try flashing a different Energy ROM. If that doesn't work, Dynamics 2.0. If that doesn't work... I don't know... Touch X 10.10?
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u see how he has skinned different variants? what i have tried was the glass version. its actually very smooth on my phone.
and yes, it might be a little complicated initially, but the more u mess around with your phone, the more you'll learn. as for dead shortcuts and non start ups, check through the thread to see if anybody has the same problems as you. if they do it might be a bug (and the cook might either be working on a fix, or there might already be one).
as i said earlier i havent tried dynamics as its a relatively new ROM. but touch X is considerably slower than energy in opinion, with very regular crashes. in my opinion, using everything from rotastrains to energy, this is by far the best ROM with Sense out there when i tested.
EDIT: if others have not reported the same problem as you, try a hard reset. if that doesnt solve it, ask the cook for advice by posting on the thread. you are sure to get a solution within 24 hours. im sure its just something simple to tweak around
I'm using the Dinik's Anastasia. Some things are infinitely faster than in Touch X, such as opening menus and starting/closing most programs, but others are a crawl, such as switching between the pages of the home screen and opening the start menu. So it's good, but not perfect. So Energy is about as good as Touch X was, although better looking, which the ease-of-use of the Touch X-series compensates for. Although to be honest I'm yet to fully get the hold on Energy, so it might be this grows to be my favorite ROM later on.
I resolved the dead shortcuts. They were actually links to HTC Sense tabs which I had disabled, so the shortcuts just pointed me to the Sense home screen. I'm probably going to hunt down and delete all those shortcuts, because the whole concept of them appears pretty stupid to me. Why have links in the start menu for things that are already displayed as tabs in the normal UI? It's infinitely slower to get to them via start menu...
Anyhow, I'll continue playing around with the ROM. I'm starting to like it...
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I'm using the Dinik's Anastasia. Some things are infinitely faster than in Touch X, such as opening menus and starting/closing most programs, but others are a crawl, such as switching between the pages of the home screen and opening the start menu. So it's good, but not perfect. So Energy is about as good as Touch X was, although better looking, which the ease-of-use of the Touch X-series compensates for. Although to be honest I'm yet to fully get the hold on Energy, so it might be this grows to be my favorite ROM later on.
I resolved the dead shortcuts. They were actually links to HTC Sense tabs which I had disabled, so the shortcuts just pointed me to the Sense home screen. I'm probably going to hunt down and delete all those shortcuts, because the whole concept of them appears pretty stupid to me. Why have links in the start menu for things that are already displayed as tabs in the normal UI? It's infinitely slower to get to them via start menu...
Anyhow, I'll continue playing around with the ROM. I'm starting to like it...
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well there is no such thing as a perfect custom ROM. all ROMs are plagued with bugs. the reason i recommended Energy in the first place, was because it crashes the least. u wouldnt need to soft reset your phone very much. also it starts up fast, and has amazingly good battery life for what it offers.
im glad to hear u managed to resolve the dead shortcuts. to be frank they didnt really bother me, as on the whole the user experience was what that mattered. and since most functions are accessible via the touch flo interface, you hardly ever need to use the start panel (if the speed bothers you)
Well, I've now set it up almost just like I want, some minor tweaks left, but good enough for now. I'm starting to notice that it is, in fact, faster than Touch X almost in every regard. The stability is slightly worse, but it's not like Energy is prone to crashes. It's still slightly more stable than the ROM the phone came with!
I deleted the whole HTC folder from the start menu and all the useless shortcuts are now gone!
I've still got some games and rarely used programs to install, but they're not important, so I'll do them when I have some extra time.
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Well, I've now set it up almost just like I want, some minor tweaks left, but good enough for now. I'm starting to notice that it is, in fact, faster than Touch X almost in every regard. The stability is slightly worse, but it's not like Energy is prone to crashes. It's still slightly more stable than the ROM the phone came with!
I deleted the whole HTC folder from the start menu and all the useless shortcuts are now gone!
I've still got some games and rarely used programs to install, but they're not important, so I'll do them when I have some extra time.
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thats good to hear, though i wouldnt entirely agree on you on the stability front. but its a subjective topic. anyway, enjoy the new ROM, and if u do need any help or advice there's a whole dedicated community here at ur disposal.
cheers
I tried to answer you four times, but each time I got the maintenance/overcapacity "Thank you for your understanding." -message when clicking Post and the forum ate my message.
For me Touch X often crashed when under strain (buffer overflow?) and not otherwise, but Energy crashes at random (when not in use, when opening the virtual keyboard) while not having the same issues Touch X has. So they're equally stabile, just in different ways.
EDIT: Just after posting this, the phone froze when it was charging and the screen was off... -.-
Sorry for double-posting, but this is an update, so I hope it's okay.
I'ma whine a bit. While the Energy ROM initially looked awesome, I'm starting to get sick of all the SODs and freezes it has at least three times a day! Touch X froze or crashed on me that many times a week and never had a single SOD.
Tomorrow or the day after I'll try flashing other versions. If that doesn't work, I'll try Dynamics 2.0.
Also, keep suggesting ROMs!
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Sorry for double-posting, but this is an update, so I hope it's okay.
I'ma whine a bit. While the Energy ROM initially looked awesome, I'm starting to get sick of all the SODs and freezes it has at least three times a day! Touch X froze or crashed on me that many times a week and never had a single SOD.
Tomorrow or the day after I'll try flashing other versions. If that doesn't work, I'll try Dynamics 2.0.
Also, keep suggesting ROMs!
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its quite odd that you have so many crash issues with Energy's ROM. I never had any of those issues u mentioned. Perhaps cuz mine is an older, more stable build. anyways, there is an older ROM by Rotastrain. its called blaze & devilution. brilliant eye candy. however the developer no longer develops for the device anymore, so dont expect any updates or bug fixes. give it a try. its not as fast as Energy's but i do hope it will sort out the crashing issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565055&highlight=blaze
I'm really fond of my current Energy ROM, but it keeps me on my toes all the time because I'm neurotically checking my phone every 15 minutes in case it has another SOD and I don't want to miss any calls because of that. Also, I'm now using another alarm clock besides the phone, because Energy has already SOD'd on me twice during the morning hours before the alarm and I don't want to be late for work.
So, I'll try every single Energy version, variation (well, all the good-looking ones... ) and build until I find one that doesn't have all the SODs and freezes. If all of them have, it's Dynamics 2.0 or Blaze or another ROM up next.
I have been ROM-hopping for 3-4 months and I have tried many ROMs for my i8190.
I found some I really enjoyed, some did not work well for me.
Without meaning to "compare" the ROMs or find "the best ROM ever" I am just looking for some suggestions on ROMs that I can try.
My requirements are very simple:
-OTG support
-No clock freezing
-No battery drain
What ROMs would you suggest?
Please note, I have no intention of comparing the ROMs with one another, I am just looking for suggesstions in case there is something good that I have not tested yet.
Thanks!
Novafusion CM10.2
sent from Hell with my GT I9100
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Novafusion CM10.2
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Thank you for your time. This was the ROM I installed last and seems to be a good option.
I have been using it for almost a week, I really like the stability, looks like a solid ROM.
I only have one issue with it (all cyanogenmod ROMs basically).
Even though I have turned the backlight of the hardware buttons off, they keep lighting at random times, I have not found what is causing that or how to fix it, can you suggest something or do I just get used to it?
anpel said:
Thank you for your time. This was the ROM I installed last and seems to be a good option.
I have been using it for almost a week, I really like the stability, looks like a solid ROM.
I only have one issue with it (all cyanogenmod ROMs basically).
Even though I have turned the backlight of the hardware buttons off, they keep lighting at random times, I have not found what is causing that or how to fix it, can you suggest something or do I just get used to it?
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Download this app, then open it, uncheck "activate bln" then go to system settings-buttons-backlight & uncheck illuminate buttons
mauam said:
Download this app, then open it, uncheck "activate bln" then go to system settings-buttons-backlight & uncheck illuminate buttons
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I managed to break my phone's screen so I haven't been using it for the past couple of months but I'm back here to say this solution worked 100% for me, just in case anyone is reading. Thank you!
P.S. Sorry I had to remove the url to the app, but I'm a new user and I am not allowed to post external links, obviously even when quoting more experienced users.