Is flashing from a new rom to an older version bad? - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Sorry if this question has been asked before. I did a search but could not find anything so it may be a matter of how I worded my search. I am currently running Cyanogen 4.2.5. I upgraded to CM4.2.7, but decided to go back to CM4.2.5 so that I could continue to use a theme that I really liked. So my question is, is it bad to go backwards with roms? I have found a theme that I really want to try, but it was created for a much older Cyanogen rom. It was actually created for CM4.0.4. Is this considered a bad thing with the G1? Mods feel free to move this thread if the Q&A section is the wrong place.
My specs
G1/Dream
CM4.2.5
NabzHero theme
Haykuro's Danger SPL
DRC83 build

Moving backwards as far as ROM's go isn't harmful if that's what you mean by "is it bad".
If the theme hasn't been updated since 4.0.4 it will not be compatible. The build has changed from the ground up since then.

Thanks for the quick reply. Let me make sure I understand you correctly. If the theme I found was made for Cyanogen 4.0.4 and I flash the Cyanogen 4.0.4 Rom it still wont work because the build is different? By build do you mean the fact that I'm on DRC83 is the reason it wont work?
Thanks

Contact the maker of the theme and ask them to remake it as a Metamorph theme. Then it should be good forever.
I liked NabzHero too, but updates were kinda non existent. Enoch is similar, updates with in hours of the new CM version and is available via the CM updater.
Wish Enoch would change the tab for the drawer though...I don't like the way it looks.
Off to pm Enoch...

Simple answer: No, it's not harmful, bad, or wrong to go back and use an older version of a ROM. But, if you're using an old ROM, don't be surprised if something you find here that says it works on Cyanogen won't work--it may be intended only for the latest version.
The build is fundamentally different since 4.0.4, but you can still go back and use it. But, you may have to do a wipe from recovery before you flash it. Just try flashing 4.0.4 over 4.2.7.1, and if you get errors, reboot recovery, do a full wipe, and flash 4.0.4 again.

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...lol help here =)

ok so my cyanogenmod 4.0.4
fireware 1.5
o.0 how do i install themes and stuff looking for a different look and yeah ...
i cant get my iphone back so i guess im sticking to this for awhile siiii smh wth was i thinking....
this is probably the most useful thing.
to install a theme flash it on top of your rom. if you can flash a rom, then you can flash a them, just make sure that your theme is made for the correct version of your rom, i.e. themexxxxx4.0.4 would not work for cm4.1.11.1.

Rogers Phones and Themes

Hey guys so ive got one of the Rogers dream phones,.I was wondering if it is possible to flash one of the themes (meteamorph)? The reason I ask is that these phones are EBI1 not EBI0 like the tmobile ones.
Being ebi1 makes it so that not everything is compatible, an example of this is the cyanogen rom, it is not compatible with out a special kernel for our phones.
Once again, are the metamorphosis themes compatible with our ebi1 phones?
I am in the exact same boat lol my provider is fido and I use the latest cyanogen on my rooted ebi1 rogers dream I jus thought that this was a funny coincidence oh and obviously I'm in canada ps . I reall would like it if brian the god who makes our cyanogen port files, ported the 10mb ram hack
Themes are all good. I've used the ones from the cm updater with no issues. I also tried some meteamorphs a while ago with no issues. I think there is an issue with meteamorph on the latest cyanogen thoe. not 100% sure
To the first poster, yeah that would be great because we can't get dwangs fast rom on ebi1. Do you know if anyone has asked him to port it?
Sleeepy2 said:
Themes are all good. I've used the ones from the cm updater with no issues. I also tried some meteamorphs a while ago with no issues. I think there is an issue with meteamorph on the latest cyanogen thoe. not 100% sure
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Where can I get cm updater from? I didn't find it on the market. And am I correct in thinking that the cm updater does more than just update cyanogen roms?
EDIT ive found it and see that it can update the cm aswell as use themes. I still need an answer to my post after this one.
I am wondering if it is safe to use cm updater to update our phones because we require the special kernal to use cm. Do we need to apply a kernal everytime, does it do it for us, or do we do it ourselves. (This is regarding updating the cm itself not the theme)
Hey guys, so I am still waiting for a response regarding my above post but in addition I would like to say that I now have a theme using cm updater. I downloased the first one in the recommened list. I was wondering what the difference between advance and regular launcher. There where two options for this theme one with regular other with advanced. I chose regular because I don't know what a lanucher is.
i have heard that people have asked him but he hasnet responded with a definitive answer
asb123 said:
I am wondering if it is safe to use cm updater to update our phones because we require the special kernal to use cm. Do we need to apply a kernal everytime, does it do it for us, or do we do it ourselves. (This is regarding updating the cm itself not the theme)
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You just need to add the bcrook Kernel as a theme. Follow the directions in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592377
To Update:
1. Themes > Menu > Check Now
2. Select the newest bc-ebi1 file from the theme section
3. Click on it and download it, choose Apply Later when finished.
4. Download the newest Cyanogen ROM from the ROM section. Choose Apply Now.
This will reboot to recovery and flash the newest cyanogenmod. Then apply the previously downloaded port file.
Enjoy!
Thanks for the link andanswer, that will come in handy.
Another question I have is what's the difference between advanced and regular launcher?
You can look at the thread for advanced laucher and see the differences. Folders, change the number of home screens and more.
hmm i have a rogers dream and ive never had problems with themes, cm updater or anything. also ive never had to install any "special" kernel for any rom ive put on my phone.
im pretty sure i used the "rogers one touch root" guide in the dev forum when i originally rooted my phone.
is there a difference between the old and new rogers dreams? or are all this ebi1??
I use the enoch theme and it works great and looks even better. I think that most roms don't touch the kernel so they should be fine.
digitaljeff said:
hmm i have a rogers dream and ive never had problems with themes, cm updater or anything. also ive never had to install any "special" kernel for any rom ive put on my phone.
im pretty sure i used the "rogers one touch root" guide in the dev forum when i originally rooted my phone.
is there a difference between the old and new rogers dreams? or are all this ebi1??
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There is a difference but it isn't with the radio (ebi1 vs ebi0) its with the spl. It just requires the one click root to get around. You must have used haykuro's method to root which switches your radio to EBI0 making it compatible with any rom for the G1.
beav_35 said:
I use the enoch theme and it works great and looks even better. I think that most roms don't touch the kernel so they should be fine.
There is a difference but it isn't with the radio (ebi1 vs ebi0) its with the spl. It just requires the one click root to get around. You must have used haykuro's method to root which switches your radio to EBI0 making it compatible with any rom for the G1.
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ahh makes sense, i used haykuro's method. thanks for the clarification.
hey i am using the binary something theme. When on the old Cyanogen rom it had the same theme but with the lockscreen, when updating to the latest CM rom i dont see the lock screen version anymore. (i am using CM updater)
Ok so I am now using the enoch theme, I like the blue accent and the transparent design to show more background. One thing that I miss is the lock screen, CM updater doesn't show any option for installing a enoch lockscreen. Is there any way to get a lockscreen? Also can I use any lockscreen even if it is not enoch? (Cm updater shows no lockscreens anyway)
Does the latest CM rom 12.2 not support any lockscreens yet? Or do I just need to add more sorces for themes in cm updater? If so could someone guide me into doing that.
could someone please answer as to can I use any lockscreen? and how can i get this done with cm updater?

Wiping back to a google ROM

Hello,
I'm running the latest stable version of cyanogen 5.0.7, which is the last, i think.
And i'm having trouble with my APN settings. I want to perform a clean wipe and revert to a google ROM to see if I can get the APN settings to work on my G1 with that. Is this possible without actually breaking the phone?
I don't think it'd be downgrading as the latest Google ROM is 2.2 and 5.0.7 comes up as 2.1 on my phone.
If it's safe, could someone tell me how?
from what i understand u basically wanna go back stock so if thats then heres a link
although its been a min since i did it this way but hope this helps
thanks for the reply.
according to this page, G1 only supports up to Android 1.6 in its official form?
Laserbeak43 said:
thanks for the reply.
according to this page, G1 only supports up to Android 1.6 in its official form?
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You know, there might have been an actual REASON why you installed a cyanogen rom.... and it was probably because of the fact that HTC DREAM only has official images to 1.6!
Unless you were just installing cyanogen rom to make life difficult....?
how could installing cyanogenmod make life difficult when it has so many cool features. I can't even remember if android was even past a 1.6 release when i started using cyanogen. what was the point of your reply?
either way, i can't remember the reason why i installed cyanogen. could have just been purely for the sake of modding.

[Q] 2.2 Roms in a nutshell

Ok, i've been absent from the forums for some time and have been trying to play catch up... If someone who has been keeping up would just help me get a few things straight it would be awesome.
please just put the number and if its correct or the answer or w.e.
What I think I know:
1. CyanogenMod- Established dev who releases nightly updates (CM6?) to his tweaked build of rooted mostly ASOP 2.2, which recently (thanks to a new kernal?) began working on our CDMA Hero’s.
2. Most 2.2 ROMs are based off of one of the CM6 nightlies, then customized with themes and tweaks
3. “CyanogenMod-6 for Hero CDMA - V6.0.0 (09/18/2010)” is one of these, and has been tweaked minimally, and is considered a stable build as far as CM6 goes
4. “FroYo 2.2 – CM6- Vanilla” is basically same as above, just complied from a differently “nightly”, while “Extremely Blue” and “BlackMod” are the same, just themed
5. The main (only?) NON–CM6 based options for 2.2 are…
a. asopMod v.03m = which is a very ASOP build, includes OC
b. NFX-Hero 2.2.1.update1 = slimed down ASOP, includes OC and JIT option
Questions:
6. If I want the CM6 nightly updates, is there an updater app in any of these ROMS’s, like in Fresh Hero 2.4 (what I’m used to), or do I have to pull an update.zip from somewhere (or something)?
7. Do some phones work with JIT enabled, and others don’t? and if so is there a way to tell without just trying
8. If I'm set on 2.2 should I check out any other ROMs than those I mentioned
9. Is there a standout (stable) kernal right now?
Just want to say:
NFX-Hero 2.2.1 is just the version number. It is still based on HTC Sense 2.1.
There is currently no Sense 2.2 port for the Hero.
As for the stable kernel, I've heard good things about this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756774
specifically [email protected] 09/14/2010, people refer to it as "#14 kernel"
teddypepper52 said:
Ok, i've been absent from the forums for some time and have been trying to play catch up... If someone who has been keeping up would just help me get a few things straight it would be awesome.
please just put the number and if its correct or the answer or w.e.
What I think I know:
1. CyanogenMod- Established dev who releases nightly updates (CM6?) to his tweaked build of rooted mostly ASOP 2.2, which recently (thanks to a new kernal?) began working on our CDMA Hero’s.
Cyan is the almighty grand pubba of AOSP and was one of there first to release roms in the mainer we see them now. He does not do everything and all roms as he has allot of help from other devs, for us its Darch who maintains the Heroc version of cyanogen (sorry if I forgot some of you other devs)
2. Most 2.2 ROMs are based off of one of the CM6 nightlies, then customized with themes and tweaks
All of the roms you see for the heros here that are AOSP based com from darch's and then cyans repo period, nightlies are built roms while we theme built roms roms deving is done from source and can be taken from different time and snap shots so nightly means nothing then.
3. “CyanogenMod-6 for Hero CDMA - V6.0.0 (09/18/2010)” is one of these, and has been tweaked minimally, and is considered a stable build as far as CM6 goes
The stable build of cm6.0 is from the combined deving of cyan, darch and alot of other people to bring the best of wheat works and leave out what doesn't. Nightlies usually are adding what seems to work but is not always guarenteed
4. “FroYo 2.2 – CM6- Vanilla” is basically same as above, just complied from a differently “nightly”, while “Extremely Blue” and “BlackMod” are the same, just themed
Black mod is a theme, extreme blue is a themed rom compiled from cyan/drach's source vinilla is a terms used to describe a stock rom which is what cm6.00 stable and anyhting else that comes from the repo.
5. The main (only?) NON–CM6 based options for 2.2 are…
a. asopMod v.03m = which is a very ASOP build, includes OC
b. NFX-Hero 2.2.1.update1 = slimed down ASOP, includes OC and JIT option
I'll go ape **** on this but asopMod v.03m is from cyan's source ino at first he tried to make it seem like he compiled from AOSP source but the fact is he uses cyans like almost everone else and if you check his thread now he given the props the the cyan team as he should have at first.... NFX-her is a sense based rom from android 2.1
Questions:
6. If I want the CM6 nightly updates, is there an updater app in any of these ROMS’s, like in Fresh Hero 2.4 (what I’m used to), or do I have to pull an update.zip from somewhere (or something)?
Not yet but that would be nice nightlies are not considered stable and there for i dont think theyll be added to an updater like cm updater or fresh updater but when we start seeing more stable builds you'll see the updater used, cm updater is on cm6 right now just nothing to update
7. Do some phones work with JIT enabled, and others don’t? and if so is there a way to tell without just trying
All phones should work with JIT (Just in Time) dalvik compiler, whether they run betters is a different story but I have never had issues
8. If I'm set on 2.2 should I check out any other ROMs than those I mentioned
For sense I like fresh as he seems to be the best sense dev (imo) around here for AOSP you go with the grand master Cyan and his cm6 (for the hero) there are some other devs out there that make roms for other phones but most of them still use Cyan's repo.
9. Is there a standout (stable) kernal right now?
Yes Decadence
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if anyones see's an error in what i posted please correct me.
Any froyo rom is going to be based off of CM6. The nightlies are built every night from any changes made that day. They are considered beta, however most will find no issues at all. If you flash CM6 the Jit setting is a quick change and will not screw up the phone. You just go into setting>cyanogenmod setttings>performance settings and check or uncheck jit and reboot. There is a ROM Manager app in CM6, but you have to install clockwork recovery so I am not sure what will show up in the ROMs option or what else it does because I do not want to install clockworks. As mentioned a lot are using #14.
unCoRrUpTeD said:
Any froyo rom is going to be based off of CM6. The nightlies are built every night from any changes made that day. They are considered beta, however most will find no issues at all. If you flash CM6 the Jit setting is a quick change and will not screw up the phone. You just go into setting>cyanogenmod setttings>performance settings and check or uncheck jit and reboot. There is a ROM Manager app in CM6, but you have to install clockwork recovery so I am not sure what will show up in the ROMs option or what else it does because I do not want to install clockworks. As mentioned a lot are using #14.
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not a lot shows up in the downloads section for rom manager on the hero. there's 4 selections, and none of them include cm6. it's mostly useless in my experience.
hopefully they update the downloads list soon.
Brandito said:
not a lot shows up in the downloads section for rom manager on the hero. there's 4 selections, and none of them include cm6. it's mostly useless in my experience.
hopefully they update the downloads list soon.
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Actually i was referring to cm updater which is similar to the fresh updater... when we see more stables from cm6 and up it'll start showing some it that. I personally don't care for rom manager.
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ASimmons said:
Actually i was referring to cm updater which is similar to the fresh updater... when we see more stables from cm6 and up it'll start showing some it that. I personally don't care for rom manager.
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rom manager could use some work to make it a bit more useful. i like it for queuing up roms to flash and making things a bit more automated, however i'm not sure it clears the dalvik cache when it does its thing so i generally have to do it myself anyways.
i'll have to check out fresh updater. i have cm updater, installed from the market, does it actually come with cm6 now? i never saw it when i flashed the 9/18 and already had it installed when i clean flashed the latest nightlies.
Brandito said:
rom manager could use some work to make it a bit more useful. i like it for queuing up roms to flash and making things a bit more automated, however i'm not sure it clears the dalvik cache when it does its thing so i generally have to do it myself anyways.
i'll have to check out fresh updater. i have cm updater, installed from the market, does it actually come with cm6 now? i never saw it when i flashed the 9/18 and already had it installed when i clean flashed the latest nightlies.
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Well fresh updater is pretty much the same as cm updater but its only for fresh roms. cm updater might not be part of cm6 I can't, it probably isnt. I actually would like it to be as with cm5 and below it also had themes in it. hopefully itll come back when theres more cm6 stables.
Thanks all. Didn't want to jump into 2.2 without knowing what I was getting into. I decided to start with CM6.0.0, and so far its been great. As mush as I love all things Freshh, I'm mad I waited this long. I DO miss the Senses dialer (minus the ungodly lag) and I havent made up my mind on the keyboard, but the overall speediness is killer.
Hell yea froyo/ CM.

Is there a point to upload to CyanogenMod-6.1 now or wait for gingerbread?

I'm still with the stock froyo and about to upgrade.
But if i upgrade to CyanogenMod-6.1
1. How i can make sure that i keep all my applications and settings
2. how to understand if i need to update the radio as well
3. is there a point to upgrade now when gingerbread is just behind the corner and how long usually takes Cyanogen to incorporate the new build in his mod?
No body knows when Gingerbread will really be available for N1.
Just nandroid backup what you have now and flash back when GB is here.
Do a Nandroid backup & Titanium backup.
You can see your radio build at "settings-about phone-baseband version". The current radio is 5.08.00.04 or korean. Look at the android developement section.
Imo, you better try cm 6.1 first. Because, as i know of, there are no major change in gingerbread. But, who knows?
Hope it helps
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william tanaya said:
Do a Nandroid backup & Titanium backup.
You can see your radio build at "settings-about phone-baseband version". The current radio is 5.08.00.04 or korean. Look at the android developement section.
Imo, you better try cm 6.1 first. Because, as i know of, there are no major change in gingerbread. But, who knows?
Hope it helps
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there are huge underlying changes in gingerbread....
also latest stock radio is 4.06. the next official radio update is not out yet. 4.06 is fine with cyan. personally, seeing as gingerbread is probably gonna be hitting in the next few days (hopefully) i would wait
Thank you all!
What's the difference between Nandroid backup & Titanium backup?
How long took Cyanogen to implement 2.2 froyo in his rom?
If it's not too much i guess i flash now and then just re-flash with the gingerbread based cyanogen rom?
Fking1 said:
Thank you all!
What's the difference between Nandroid backup & Titanium backup?
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A nandroid backup is a complete backup of your rom. if you were to restore a nandroid, your phone will be exactly as it was when you did the backup, as if you took a snapshot in time. This allows you to try out different roms, or flash changes to your rom with low risk, as you can always revert.
A titanium backup backs your apps and data to your SD card, it allows you to move between roms and take your apps, the data in your apps, and your settings with you.
How long took Cyanogen to implement 2.2 froyo in his rom?
If it's not too much i guess i flash now and then just re-flash with the gingerbread based cyanogen rom?
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If it is anything like last time, google will push the OTA update, then drop the source code a few weeks later, give the Cyanogenmod team a few weeks to put out a release candidate. I'd expect you should be able to just flash the upgrade directly.
Btw, the Titanium back-up doesn't really seem to back up everything
For example i have to re-configure all my settings, desktops, re-set my accounts and it also has missed few applications.
Is that normal or i'm missing something?
other than that, i'm now happy with cyanogenmod 6.1, it's pretty cool
Are you backing up apps only or apps + user's data ect...
I heard it's better to just restore apps and re-enter data as
that work better. I don't know I've always had good luck restoring
users data.
there are a ton of awesome things in cyanogen 6.1 like HD video recording and FM radio. definitley worth the upgrade now, especially since it will be at least a month after gingerbread is released before cyan team gets something out. maybe longer cause the source isnt necessarily released the same day as the ROM. with froyo i think it was 1-2 months after release till cyan came out.
sorry i guess i didnt understand what you were saying about gingerbread, but if you want a stock gingerbread rom then it should be out within a few days (hopefully)
however, the source and cm gingerbread probably wont be out for a month till then.
basically, if you want root, you should go ahead and go for it now just in case 2.3 makes it harder to root without unlocking the bootloader. a cm based gingerbread wont be out for a while. you can always upgrade to a gingerbread cm later anyway.
if you want to stay stock and see if you like gingerbread then just wait lol
I'm with cyanogen now and happier than ever.
It's soo good that i can gladly wait till they implement rom with gingerbread as well.
p.s.
Gingerbread seems to be kinda ugly anyway
Fking1 said:
I'm with cyanogen now and happier than ever.
It's soo good that i can gladly wait till they implement rom with gingerbread as well.
p.s.
Gingerbread seems to be kinda ugly anyway
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At least with root, when you do get gingerbread you can change the colour scheme and theme it anyway
flybyme said:
there are huge underlying changes in gingerbread....
also latest stock radio is 4.06. the next official radio update is not out yet. 4.06 is fine with cyan. personally, seeing as gingerbread is probably gonna be hitting in the next few days (hopefully) i would wait
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True, there are quite a lot of changes 'under the hood'.
4.06 is only still the latest official radio in the US. The ones sold in the rest of the world get 5.x-radios in their updates and have so since FRF91. They are also hardware-identical. As you say though, any radio from 4.06 and onwards is CM6-compatible.
Even though I hope Gingerbread will be released in a couple of days, perhaps when the Nexus S is released, but it could just as well take more time than that. CM 6.1 is a good way to enjoy the time until that happens.

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