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Hey folks, I got my Wing a couple of weeks ago and I love it. I had a treo before, and this makes me much happier. I had gotten into modding the UI a bit and playing around with the best combos of third-party software on my old treo, so I started playing with my Wing. Well, I've gotten probably mid-level with my technical modding competency thus far. I'm comfortable with most progs and mods I've found below actually flashing the ROM, and I'd think about that too, but I've gathered that most of the TF roms out have trouble on the Wing. So far, I'm overclocked to 260, tweaked some stuff in the registry, installed the HTC Touch UI minus the cube and all that, but I'm not quite happy. So, I have some questions:
On the HTC Home 5 tab skin:
1. Is there any way to put custom icons in the launcher area? Not just style-wise(though that would be good), but that link to things that aren't on the list? I'd really love to but a button that would take me to "settings" in there, like the one that takes you to "programs". I have a few other ideas too.
2. On the weather tab, I know there is a way to add cities to the "select city" list by getting the city code off of accuweather.com and changing the registry, but I can't figure out how to get the code for my city when I look it up on the site...I search it, and it comes up, but where is the code?
3. I put the HTC black theme on here, but I wondered, are there any others available? I know I've seen a blue one, and I think I've seen pictures of an HTC Touch that had a red theme....
Other Stuff:
1. I tried to up my page pool to 6mb like it says in the "all you need to know" thread, but the preparation app wont work....I install it, but nothing happens after that....I can't find it to open or anything else...Is installing it enough?
2. Is there any way to keep wm6 from putting the recently used programs on the start menu?
3. Is there any way to change the two links on the bottom bar that the soft keys are mapped to? Not change what the keys are mapped to, but like, change "Calendar" to "Settings" or "Contacts" to "Messaging", for example?
4. Is there anything out there that would let me navigate my phone with my finger? I know certain programs have this capability, like Opera Mobile's latest beta and PocketCM(which I use), but I'd like it on all windows that require scrolling....
Apps:
1. Anyone know the best app to use to stream radio and/or tv on my phone?
2. What's the best way to watch youtube? I wouldn't ask, but I've found like three or four different threads/articles on ways to do it, and I don't know which I should use. I prefer to use Opera as my browser, but I can use PIE now and then, if the process actually lets me watch it in my browser....
3. Can ya suggest any good games?
Well, thanks in advance for any help you can give. I've been trolling here for a while, so I know there are some very smart people here and I have faith. Sorry for asking so much, and forgive me if I should have broken this up a bit into different threads, but I'm trying to perfect my phone, and this was basically what was left on my list....Any other tips on how to achieve my goal of making a nice, clean, finger-friendly UI and putting the picking the best apps would be appreciated too.
Peace.
Ok, I figured out the HTC weather thing, and the today softkey thing, so I'm good there. Any help on the rest?
I can cover a few for you but any more's gonna cost ya....
flash your phone with either of the touch roms out right now and you will be able to finger scroll in nearly all applications.
try avotmv, or search using google for similar programs for streaming videos(avotMv includes youtube as well as google).
Many streams to tv stations can be opened with WMP directly which makes it alot easier to connect to them by saving them as PIE favourites. You just need to find 'em first, I would suggest doing that from your computer first.
I've recommended Flux Challenge before, ill do it again...apart from that I don't run too many games from my pocket pc. Seal Volleyball is kinda fun too.
Maybe some others can assist you with the rest
cheers
Hello-
I'm new to Windows Mobile (I've been on Palm OS for at least 5 years) and I have AT&T Tilt (8925).
I've been playing around with it for a while, and there's still some things I have questions on-
1)How do I complete remove some programs that I do not want and don't appear under "Remove Programs"? I know they're located in the Windows folder, but I get a Error 5 whenever I try to delete them- I think they're read-only or something...
2) I'm also having problems with the GPS receiver. At times it will work great, acquiring a signal in seconds, and other times it won't work at all, searching for a long time to find nothing. I use Live Search and Google Maps and have the same problem with both.. Any ideas?
3) Coming from Palm OS, I'm used to text messages coming up in a view. Is there a way to change that?
4) I modified my PTT button to work as any program. Is there a specific registry key I can set it to so that it acts as a power button?
5) I use gmail and I'm using their IMAP service. Some of my messages are appearing blank when downloaded. Was I supposed to change settings or something? Why does it only work for some and not others?
6) And last but not least, does anybody have any good mod/util programs to recommend?
Thanks for your help
Also,
7) Does anyone know how to disable the sound on the 3G launch screen when the device reboots?
I havent got too many answers to your questions, but this would be a sart at least.
KaiserTweak has many necessary customizations (but I dont think it addresses most of your questions.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333898
The apps you want to remove sounds like the Cingular built-in ones. In that case you can avoid installing them by doing a hard reset, and rebooting before it installs the carrier customizations.
This article gives a step by step howto.
http://tiltsite.com/2007/10/how-to-beat-the-bloat-on-your-att-tilt/
Also this page was useful in getting my GPS problems sorted out. The GPSTEST software seemed to cure the problem all by itself (and its freeware)
http://www.expansys.nl/ft.aspx?k=100176
Surur
Yeah, I've got KaiserTweak already, I love it.
In terms of the "bloatware", that is indeed what I want to remove, but there's also some that I want to keep... Is there a way to remove programs that arent in "Remove Programs"?
Not AFAIK, but the actual AT&T apps are available as a separate cab in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332438
Unfortunately they are still bundled together, but at leas they can be cleanly uninstalled.
Surur
PTK8ofBH said:
Yeah, I've got KaiserTweak already, I love it.
In terms of the "bloatware", that is indeed what I want to remove, but there's also some that I want to keep... Is there a way to remove programs that arent in "Remove Programs"?
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Even after bypassing the bloatware install, the CAB files should still be on the device for you to install them on your own. Might take a bit of digging to find the proper ones and you may need something like Resco Explorer, or Total Commander to "see" them. I think the built in file explorer hides some of the system files, but I couldn't tell you much more than that.
Thanks. The GPS Fix doesn't seem to do much- am I missing something?
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Thanks. The GPS Fix doesn't seem to do much- am I missing something?
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Are you able to run it. You should be able to use it to test the function of your GPS device, and find out what port it uses etc. Its a smartphone program, so you have to use it using the keys, not the touch screen.
Surur
It seems to help and it's definately a very useful app. I'll let you know if my problems persist.
Does anyone have any ideas on the other issues I'm having?
I know that I would donate $10 to someone who can take the time to figure this out. It has to be possible to add a Tasks tab to the TF3D interface.
I don't want to have to switch to second today or anything like that - fully integrated! A clean and simple list of tasks maybe with an "X" delete button on the right side of each task.
I know people say it's impossible, but with some time I'm sure it can be done.
If you would like this too and would be willing to donate some - just leave a post saying so - maybe someone will be enticed to collect such a prize enough to figure it out!
If you do figure it out and post a reply - you're my hero and please set up a thread for donations!
edit: By tasks I mean things you have to do in real life - NOT a list of running programs - linked in to the 'Tasks' program that's a part of outlook...
yeah, someone help!!! it a obviously new tab, everyone need that!
Manila Control?
I know it's not the answer you're looking for but have you taken a look at Manila Control?
It allows you to use your regular today screen (with plugins). It's somewhat like Second Today however I always had problems with it running. I've been using this since its release and haven't had any trouble whatsoever.
Manila Control
It's something for now until the XDA gurus can figure out a way to create a tasks tab.
count me in for a donation
I'll be willing to contribute to a tasks tab!
I'll donate too, 10-20 dollar if you can make something like alt-tab in windows for the touch pro, maybe use the capacitive touch(multitouch) for the alt tab, and when i slide my finger across that, i can select the program.
nextascy said:
I'll donate too, 10-20 dollar if you can make something like alt-tab in windows for the touch pro, maybe use the capacitive touch(multitouch) for the alt tab, and when i slide my finger across that, i can select the program.
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I'm not sure I understand but a programs tab is already out there (like when you go into the original programs tab and hit the all programs button)
I'll donate 10$ as well
12aon said:
I'm not sure I understand but a programs tab is already out there (like when you go into the original programs tab and hit the all programs button)
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What I want is the ability to quickly switch between all the program I have running. If i'm using opera and have say, media player running in the background, right now, I have to go to "Home", than use the HTC Task Manager to switch to media player.
If there is an easier way, that'll be great, but I have been doing it that way all this time.
Hahahaha... I cancel my donation - I was thinking about "tasks" as "things to do", not "running programms"
Ok - let me clear things up since I started the thing
I want a task tab as in 'things to do'
Like linked to the 'Tasks' program
You kno - that program that's a part of outlook.
NOT something to show running programs!
To me that just sounds excessive...
nextascy said:
I'll donate too, 10-20 dollar if you can make something like alt-tab in windows for the touch pro, maybe use the capacitive touch(multitouch) for the alt tab, and when i slide my finger across that, i can select the program.
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try "task facade"
I have a fuze, so I set the ptt button, but you can set the long-send key as it, and it'll do a x1 style overview of windows
I have a question about the tad too, I've seen nice interfaces with a calendar tab, for whatever reason my ATT Fuze didn't come with a calendar tab, you can click calendar from the home page but it brings up the default calendar instead of the pretty calendar I've seen in other screen shots, is there maybe a cab out there to install but he calendar tab to my stock Fuze TF3D?
Thanks!!
Heres a screenshot of what I'm missing (note mines not a black theme its the default ATT Fuze gray theme)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=135839&d=1228808515
$10*
Put me down for $10 provided that it is a tab, not a SecondToday kind of thing, and that the task display is a la TodayAdenda not just the original MS today tasks plug in.
Weird that this hasn't been done already considering how many people want it as, though I am not a programmer, it doesn't seem like it is that complicated a modification given some of the other things XDA folk have produced.
bump...............
OK, since it's for the "things to do" tab, I'll pay 10 bucks for it eventually
This is my most awaited feature. Not having easy access to tasks is a huge inconvenience. I do not understand why this was not a default tab...
Has there been a solution to this problem yet?
no... Just wishful thinking I guess...
$100 anyone???? (sarcasm btw)
I am pretty sure you cant do this from xml editing alone. I think you would need the source code for tf3d. I could add the function in the source code and then edit xml. Does any one have tf3d reversed engineered or is the source code released?
I don't think these play well together. When I installed PIEPlus I got an error that said "can not get window handle from Browser interface", so I uninstalled it.
I reverted my PIE from IE6 back to the old version, reinstalled PIEPlus and it works.
I'm no expert, so it could have been a different issue, but my PIE+ is working and that makes me a happy girl.
I searched through the forums and never found anything to help me so I hope this helps someone. If everyone, except me, already knew this then there is egg on my face...I hear it's good for your skin anyway.
Possibly found something for you.
Here's something I posted a while back about the different classname that IE6 uses for the window it draws.
My post was to try and get the TouchPro's touch-sensative wheel (aka. Smartscrolling) to work in IE6 but it could be relevent to your question.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=59424
I found something that works. It was really bugging me, ever since people started cooking IEMobile6 into their awesome ROMs, that 4-wayNav/SmartScrolling were broken.
I think I found an improvement. I found this classname using the FDCsoft TaskManager: IEMobile instead of IExplorer
-It scrolls really slowly
-And it still doesn't jump to every single link, but it hits more than just d-pad.
NewKey:[HLKM\Software\HTC\SmartTouch\IEMobile]
"ClassName"="IEMobile"
Interesting! I'm using PIE+ on a stock Fuze (WM 6.1) with no problems.
not all that interesting
stock Fuze doesn't have PIE6 on it.
I was using PIEPlus on a stock Fuze just fine as well...then I flashed a custom ROM that includes PIE6
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I feel ignored, lol.
A little feedback would be appreciated, not necessary, of course, but in the spirit of conversation.
Did you understand what I meant about the "classname"??
If PIE+ uses a fair amount of registry keys for its program, you might just need to change a few registry values and be good to go.
Most of the applications don't know that there is a different windowclass because we're using stuff grabbed from WM6.5 ROMs. Which is Awesome, but some apps get confused.
scoobasteve, please don't feel ignored. I just didn't understand what you meant. I looked at your other post (ppcgeeks) again this afternoon to try to understand and I still don't entirely, but maybe a little.
For what it's worth, I thought I would change the registry to go back to PIE6 after PIEPlus was successfully working and now it's royally screwed up. I'm not sure what to do with registry keys within PIE+ to get it to look for the right stuff; I'm not that advanced.
I may uninstall/reinstall PIEPlus again to see if all of the correct keys are found again. Maybe I should have posted this in the ROM specific thread, but I know that PIEPlue didn't install correctly on a variety of new ROMs that I flashed last week.
sc00basteve said:
I feel ignored, lol.
A little feedback would be appreciated, not necessary, of course, but in the spirit of conversation.
Did you understand what I meant about the "classname"??
If PIE+ uses a fair amount of registry keys for its program, you might just need to change a few registry values and be good to go.
Most of the applications don't know that there is a different windowclass because we're using stuff grabbed from WM6.5 ROMs. Which is Awesome, but some apps get confused.
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It's OK. Just trying to help
CDnNC said:
scoobasteve, please don't feel ignored. I just didn't understand what you meant. I looked at your other post (ppcgeeks) again this afternoon to try to understand and I still don't entirely, but maybe a little.
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I was just kidding, btw. Some people don't even check the threads more than once or twice a week
I'd be happy to explain. Hopefully simply and not so off that I get chastized by one of the pros. hehe
The way programs create a window is by refering to a template of some kind. In many cases they are found in __.dll files. In WinMo6.5, I'm pretty sure the Search Widget, Weather Widget, and PIE6 all use the same type of window. Some of these Windows can be identified by a name, aka classname. This so that programmers can change different aspects of how the program reacts to our user input.
If you use HTCAlbum or HTCYouTube, those both have their own classnames as well. And as of right now, they are soooooo much easier to fingerscroll: Faster and smoother. The distance the window scrolls when you swipe the screen is one of the things someone can change in the registry. What you are really editing is how the program uses that window (windowclass/classname) when you swipe the screen with your finger.
So, the developers of 6.5 changed the classname that PIE6 uses. This is probably because it is so very different that few programs designed for 6.1 will work well with it. I tried using the PIE addon from Spb PocketPlus v4.1.0 and it got really confused. Pocket plus must have recognized certain elements but choked, big time, cause of the significant differences.
In Conclusion- I would not recommend using any PIE addons with PIE6 for right now. If you installed the old PIE, hopefully it will only be the widgets that won't work. I'm not really sure.
Had a little more time for this reply. Hope it helps a bit more.
Solution...
Change the registry key here
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Internet Explorer]
"MSHTML"=dword:0 ; 0 for old IE, 1 for IE Mobile 6
Install PIEPlus 2.2 and off you go...
I couldn't live without it eather...
Kind regards,
Axel
doesn't anyone actually read?
Freakydile:
not a solution...refer to op, that is what I did. That doesn't address the issue of PIE+ not working with PIE6 at all.
sc00basteve:
I have installed a 6.5 rom that I love so PIE+ will just have to go until it is updated to work with PIE6 or I can figure out a resolution.
Thanks, I understand a lot more about it now.
thanks
Freakydile said:
Change the registry key here
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Internet Explorer]
"MSHTML"=dword:0 ; 0 for old IE, 1 for IE Mobile 6
Install PIEPlus 2.2 and off you go...
I couldn't live without it eather...
Kind regards,
Axel
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it worked for me like a charm. made me happy
thanks a lot.
i had new pie with plus not working. so i changed the above mentioned dword to dword=0, and voila!
using this on Pajerm's RC2, wm 6.5, clock 201mhz, In htc opal????
I am a normal user with pretty ok hang on general computing, but I got in way above my head. I sincerely hope someone will give aid.
Originally I was just looking for a way to 1) get my "tasks" to show on the HTCs interface start screen together with calender appointments and a way to record my phonecalls.
During my search I found some tweak-pack that did lord knows what. Among other things it added the options to record phonecalls, but only in wav and on main memory though.
Unfortunately it also made manila work in landscape mode, which I dont like. It flips over everytime I tilt my phone the slightest and I see no use for it actually.
I then downloaded some registry editor and tampered with some "enable landscape" setting under local user/software/manila and changed the value to false". After rebooting my phone still tilts and I cant find the command anymore in the registry. What did I do wrong?
I even uninstalled the tweak pack, which just made the record option dissapear again but the landscape rotating persists.
I also realized that adding the command again is easier said than done. Appearntly it takes much more than just writing it as I need to insert strings, dwords and whatsnot, and I have absolutely no clue about what is what.
Now Im even worse out than before. I have no record option any more, and the manila interface is still tilting. I still havent found a tweak or app that can add tasks to the manila homescreen.
Can someone help me disable the landscape rotaing, point me to a crash course for "phone-tampering illeterals" or recommend some way to get the two sought for features? Especially the call-recording preferably to memcard and mp3 is highly needed. First priority is to stop the screen from tilting though.
Oh please.. Help me out /cry..
about the manila rottion u can disable it by using td2 tools 3 in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536410
sadly that is only what i can help
hard reset your phone and that's it
came99 said:
I am a normal user with pretty ok hang on general computing, but I got in way above my head. I sincerely hope someone will give aid.
Originally I was just looking for a way to 1) get my "tasks" to show on the HTCs interface start screen together with calender appointments and a way to record my phonecalls.
During my search I found some tweak-pack that did lord knows what. Among other things it added the options to record phonecalls, but only in wav and on main memory though.
Unfortunately it also made manila work in landscape mode, which I dont like. It flips over everytime I tilt my phone the slightest and I see no use for it actually.
I then downloaded some registry editor and tampered with some "enable landscape" setting under local user/software/manila and changed the value to false". After rebooting my phone still tilts and I cant find the command anymore in the registry. What did I do wrong?
I even uninstalled the tweak pack, which just made the record option dissapear again but the landscape rotating persists.
I also realized that adding the command again is easier said than done. Appearntly it takes much more than just writing it as I need to insert strings, dwords and whatsnot, and I have absolutely no clue about what is what.
Now Im even worse out than before. I have no record option any more, and the manila interface is still tilting. I still havent found a tweak or app that can add tasks to the manila homescreen.
Can someone help me disable the landscape rotaing, point me to a crash course for "phone-tampering illeterals" or recommend some way to get the two sought for features? Especially the call-recording preferably to memcard and mp3 is highly needed. First priority is to stop the screen from tilting though.
Oh please.. Help me out /cry..
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Unfortunately if you tampered with the registry and did not save a backup, you will need to hard reset to get it back.
As Mohamed stated, TD2Tools will fix your rotation issue.
As far as incall recorder, here's the cab but you'll have to search on how to configure it.
I have not used it, so I cannot verify its functionality.
**Also, please edit your title to remove profanity, as it can only be implied here.... **
Hi,
I can verify- it works.
I use it and Resco Audio Recorder (paid) to record it in format i want (MP3 too) and there i want (phone or memory card)
1. Hard Reset
2. Install a ROM which has option to record a call
Thanks for the help guys. I never tried installing roms. Is there a list somewhere and some instructions on how to do it? Is it reversable without loosing everything on your phone?
With the tools recommended earlier will fix the rotation, the worst problem is averted. I still hope for some way to get a todo-list on my main screen without the cost of uninstalling Manila. But maybe thats not possible?
came99 said:
Thanks for the help guys. I never tried installing roms. Is there a list somewhere and some instructions on how to do it? Is it reversable without loosing everything on your phone?
With the tools recommended earlier will fix the rotation, the worst problem is averted. I still hope for some way to get a todo-list on my main screen without the cost of uninstalling Manila. But maybe thats not possible?
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Read the wiki for flashing for newbies.
It is not reversable and you will loose all your data as well as your warranty if you screw it up.
Not many have been able to flash HardSPL lately which is the precursor to flashing a ROM so good luck with that, you'll probably end up having to pay for it, but it is well worth it.
All questions about flashing should be direct to that thread for maximum exposure and make sure to search and read first before you ask.
There are options on your current ROM to install a Second Today program and toggle between Manila and 2nd Today where you can add your todo list.
Note: not every registry hack is restorable by a hard reset.