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i'm looking at maybe buying a set of buds/canals for around AUD100. would this price point give a noticable improvement in sound quality over the stock buds?
i mainly play 192kpbs mp3's.
thanks.
The HD2 buds are crap, as with most prepackaged ones.
EDIT: However, the remote is useful. If you have a soldering iron you could solder the cables just over the remote to a pair of new ones that fit better (I did it with the extra iPhone cable that came with my Beats by Dr. Dre (Monster), great success!)
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The HD2 buds are crap, as with most prepackaged ones.
EDIT: However, the remote is useful. If you have a soldering iron you could solder the cables just over the remote to a pair of new ones that fit better (I did it with the extra iPhone cable that came with my Beats by Dr. Dre (Monster), great success!)
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Cool! I would LOVE to try these too with my Beats... but I would rather get an extra Beat's cable to do it... can't bear to cut the ones I got. The Beats cable remote will still answer calls and pause music... any idea where I can order an extra?
The 'earbuds' that come with the HD2 are even worse than the Apple whites. Which should tell you everything you need to know.
They are horrible. It's like sticking a fruit pastel in your ear.
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Cool! I would LOVE to try these too with my Beats... but I would rather get an extra Beat's cable to do it... can't bear to cut the ones I got. The Beats cable remote will still answer calls and pause music... any idea where I can order an extra?
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I don't know where to buy an extra in your case, but they do exist. Saw them at an Apple store where I live. I'd guess eBay is a good bet.
well i ended up buying some over-ear headphones. i mainly use them when the tv is being used by someone else and i want to listen to music/games, or for watching movies later at night.
i couldnt really hear alot wrong with the stockies though. they got a bit untrolled during mid-range heavy stuff, at loud volume, and not very strong bass, but i thought they sounded ok. horrible size and shape for my ears though.
i went with sennhieser hd25 sp2's. they seem pretty good overall and keep out backround noise at home.
Do other headphones work as antenna for the radio?
i have an issue with my HD2 that if i plug in a normal set of headphones (standard 3 pole 3.5mm jack) the phone starts randomly making calls
has anyone else had this ?
i would love new headphones as the standards are utter crap
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Do other headphones work as antenna for the radio?
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the ones i bought do. very well. id guess, like most fm radios, any piece of conductive metal would tranmit and receive a signal.
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no unless you can find another pair with a fm reciver that fits into a 3.5mm jack
so a normal set of headphones = no
The receiver is not in the headphone itself, so that should not make a difference at all.
i tested the stock earbuds today and i can't say that they are very bad in sound quality. but the music is not loud enough for me! will some other earbuds gain some level? sorry for my english...
the stock earbuds dont get loud enough for me sometimes, but they fit snugly for me and i like the design. i especially love the little remote on the wiring.
unfortunately, they dont really make the earbuds any better. i have had my hd2 for about three weeks now and my left bud is giving me sound issues. i gotta twist the jack a few times and wiggle it around to get sound back into it. its quite annoying.
do you guys know of any good earbuds with the remote on it?
the stock earbuds dont get loud enough for me sometimes, but they fit snugly for me and i like the design. i especially love the little remote on the wiring.
unfortunately, they dont really make the earbuds any better. i have had my hd2 for about three weeks now and my left bud is giving me sound issues. i gotta twist the jack a few times and wiggle it around to get sound back into it. its quite annoying.
do you guys know of any good earbuds with the remote on it?
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The receiver is not in the headphone itself, so that should not make a difference at all.
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I have some Etymotic HF2 haedphones and they work with the radio.... No problems with them. Sound quality is great and athough not bass heavy they are very open and natural with very clear seperation. They do work best with the foam ear tips over the silicone ones supplied and looking at getting some Comply foam tips as I want to use these on my bike and also keep out the road noise. The standard ones are OK and work very well.The sound is better for me using the foams so the better shaped Comply ones are my next purchase......
The Etymotic HF2's have been much better than any one's I have tried so far and comfortable if you are used to wearing ear plugs....
adam_r said:
i have an issue with my HD2 that if i plug in a normal set of headphones (standard 3 pole 3.5mm jack) the phone starts randomly making calls
has anyone else had this ?
i would love new headphones as the standards are utter crap
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637502&highlight=HD25
joshuaadude said:
the stock earbuds dont get loud enough for me sometimes, but they fit snugly for me and i like the design. i especially love the little remote on the wiring.
unfortunately, they dont really make the earbuds any better. i have had my hd2 for about three weeks now and my left bud is giving me sound issues. i gotta twist the jack a few times and wiggle it around to get sound back into it. its quite annoying.
do you guys know of any good earbuds with the remote on it?
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someone on page one said it will be possible to solder ur own buds to the remote. i am going to try that (will make some picture's) and report back, maybe ill even create my own topic if everything works out ok
I dont understand how you guys can listen to music on your HD2 - the headphone output is extremely noisy!!!
Whether I put in stock earbuds, Westone UM2s, or Audio-Technica CK100 trips it's just crap.
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I dont understand how you guys can listen to music on your HD2 - the headphone output is extremely noisy!!!
Whether I put in stock earbuds, Westone UM2s, or Audio-Technica CK100 trips it's just crap.
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its perfect with my philips in ear buds! i did used audio booster bass booster tho
Hi all
I have oddly shaped ears so in ear headphones, like the ones that come with the HTC 7 Mozart, are not particularly comfortable and the right one always falls out!
Does anybody know if there are any third party products that have the three pin 3.5mm jack connector with the in-line media controls included? I am thinking of over the ear headphones.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
andrew-in-woking said:
Hi all
I have oddly shaped ears so in ear headphones, like the ones that come with the HTC 7 Mozart, are not particularly comfortable and the right one always falls out!
Does anybody know if there are any third party products that have the three pin 3.5mm jack connector with the in-line media controls included? I am thinking of over the ear headphones.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
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if u dont mind shelling out some nice dough there are very good ones from Bose and Sennheiser (Were developed for iphone but works like a treat with Mozart)
Checked from a buddy of mine who has the bose one
Can I just get any of those "made for iPhone" headsets or will the mic and buttons not work with a HTC phone?
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Can I just get any of those "made for iPhone" headsets or will the mic and buttons not work with a HTC phone?
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The Mozart is quite obviously quite different to the iPhone, hardware and software-wise; thus, if the headphones are specifically made for iPhone, you can be pretty damn sure the buttons won't work for anything other than the iPhone.
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The Mozart is quite obviously quite different to the iPhone, hardware and software-wise; thus, if the headphones are specifically made for iPhone, you can be pretty damn sure the buttons won't work for anything other than the iPhone.
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Yeah. cauze the inbox Headphones of the mozart are really crappy i took the headphones of my womans Samsung wave. when i first connectet them it was horrible cuz u need to plug them out a litle bit. but after i figuered that out its like a charm. but still: buttons not working.
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HTC has wired heasets for the Mozart as well, including a (single) button for accepting/ending a call. You an plug in your own headphone as well for better sound so it only delivers the mic and the button if you want... About €15 on eBay...
I tried the iPhone headphones with Mozart. You can play, pause, answer, hang up, and launch voice control.
The volume buttons don't work however.
Does anyone know if there are high quality in-ear headsets from shure or sennheiser etc. with working volume buttons (+take/end call, play/pause music etc.) ?
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I just ordered the Etymotic hf2 (etymotic.com/ephp/hf2.html). These have support for WM7 and are supposed to have really good sound quality and isolation. I'll comment about their quality and functionality with my Mozart when I get them.
BTW, there's a nice $60 rebate on the ruby and cobalt versions of them... I ordered the ruby ones.
Flo
now-a-days all the earphones come with 3.5mm jack
i would recommend you to try over ear headphones instead of in-ear for more comfort!
you could do what I did:
take the original HTC headphones with the built-in microphone
take apart the controller and remove the wires to the speakers
replace the speakers wire with some good speakers - Creative in-ear
result: headphone with microphone, controller volume and answer acces with great speakers for music too
Try beats audio earphone and they are preety awesome plus have different earbuds suitable for your ears too...
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Try dr.dre beats headphones they are awesome dude, top quality for sound. Best ear product in the market.
I use a set of Jabra Sport corded earphones with my Mozart.
It only gives play/pause and voice control though (all in one button). It has it's own volume slider that is independent from the phone.
I'm very happy with the audio and build quality of them, but not quite all the features you want.
The fit is one of the best I've ever had, no ear fatigue and they actually stay on when running, or hanging upside down, they went for a swim and survived as well.
I occasionally use them with a Sony MW600 BT thingy, it gives the music change functions, but adds another independent volume control.
Picked up the HTC Vivid yesterday, came from the Galaxy SII(gave to fiance) has anyone else noticed a problem with the headphone jack in that you have the really PRESS the headphone jack in, then if you just slightly twist the connector it will tell the device you've disconnected the head phones and disables the music?
This has happened with multiple headphones and is a major downer for me as I am very active when I have my headphones in, mostly this will become a problem while riding my motorcycle to work.
How are your headphone jacks????
Mine works fine. I'd say get a replacement...
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Picked up the HTC Vivid yesterday, came from the Galaxy SII(gave to fiance) has anyone else noticed a problem with the headphone jack in that you have the really PRESS the headphone jack in, then if you just slightly twist the connector it will tell the device you've disconnected the head phones and disables the music?
This has happened with multiple headphones and is a major downer for me as I am very active when I have my headphones in, mostly this will become a problem while riding my motorcycle to work.
How are your headphone jacks????
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I've had my Vivid since launch and haven't noticed any issues with the headphone jack yet. You might take it back to the store, compare against the floor model, and if yours definitely has an issue then show the AT&T employee and they should swap you out for a new one.
I have a specific pair of headphones that goes in the jack very easily until the last bit, then I have to push pretty hard.
I have not experienced any disconnect when twisting the connector so far. That would seem to be a hardware problem worthy of a return.
ok, I'm slightly relieved by this, I will drop by a store on the way home to check it out. Thanks all!
yea.. mine also seems very tight when i was testing the FM radio.. luckily i never use headphones so i dont really care.
my headphone jack has problem, gonna see about a replacement
otherwise, its an awesome phone, very similar to evo3d/4g with the obvious differences.
My headphone jack is very tight. Love that factor. I use standard iPhone headsets. It seems to hold the headset in tight so as to not lose connect unless it is wanted.
Tightness with HTC earphones
I'm using the earphones that came with my HTC HD2. While testing the Vivid FM radio, I realized I was getting sound in only one earphone. I pushed on the plug and suddenly got sound in the other. I removed the earphones and re-inserted them. I could definitely tell an initial stop and then a second audible click when it went all the way in.
checked 4 different display models in 2 different stores, and had a guy go through a half dozen new phones in the box and all of them had headphone jack problems.
For what it's worth, I've discovered different headphones make the difference.
My Sennheiser canal earbuds disconnect easily if I'm not careful. My Phillips wrap-arounds are rock solid on the same phone.
Tested with my wife's Vivid and had the same results.
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For what it's worth, I've discovered different headphones make the difference.
My Sennheiser canal earbuds disconnect easily if I'm not careful. My Phillips wrap-arounds are rock solid on the same phone.
Tested with my wife's Vivid and had the same results.
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I have exactly the same result, have 3 headphones and one of them getting pulled out a bit easily, while other 2 works perfectly fine.
Gotta say, this is getting a little frustrating. Who's got a decent pair of canal earbuds that they like AND that don't disconnect and stop my music every time I put my phone back in my jacket pocket.
This is a little stupid really. I'm not using cheap headphones, and I don't have any problems with any other phone, my nook tablet, etc. A crap headphone jack on a phone like this is highly disappointing.
I have some house of Marley jammin buds and some Skullcandy FMJs that work fine. Only ones I have had trouble with are the blackberry ones.
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CEaton said:
Picked up the HTC Vivid yesterday, came from the Galaxy SII(gave to fiance) has anyone else noticed a problem with the headphone jack in that you have the really PRESS the headphone jack in, then if you just slightly twist the connector it will tell the device you've disconnected the head phones and disables the music?
This has happened with multiple headphones and is a major downer for me as I am very active when I have my headphones in, mostly this will become a problem while riding my motorcycle to work.
How are your headphone jacks????
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Mine has the same issue. I do remember that my son's HTS came with headphones but they were the kind with the microphone and had 4 contacts on the connector instead of 3 that a regular set of headphones have. I will come home and will try my son's headphones to see if that is the reason.
Headphone jacks should be a known technology. I've used my Sennheiser headphones in a ton of devices, and never had an issue till my brand new phone.
That being said, yes, the phone has the ability to take an extended jack for microphone compatibility, so I ordered a well reviewed cheap pair of phones that happened to be on sale today for half off and include the in-line microphone. ($10 bucks, yes indeed!)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826735013
Just be sure to order today and use the promo code. I'll post once I have them how they stack up and if I still see the disconnect issue.
What I've noticed is that when you twist the headphone jack, it'll come out a little bit. The headphones with shorter jacks that are almost completely concealed in the phone will stay connected still, because it won't pop out far enough. The headphones with jacks that are slightly larger disconnect more easily, since more of it sticks out. Not really sure if that's just coincidence or not, but it's just what I've been seeing.
Have some problem here with my Shure headphones. The quick and easy fix that seem to work well for me is to use a different (short) extension cable that snaps in well to the jack...
...having said that, still sux to have paid $200 for a high-end phone and get such a crappy jack.
Count me in as someone with headset jack problems on their Vivid too...
My Sennheiser HD280's slip in and out of the jack, causing it to think it has a microphone connected (and pausing playback)
My car's aux-in cable just won't stay connected-- there's plenty of friction, but just rotating the cable alone causes it to think the headphones have vanished.
My cheapo headphones work, so long as I keep the cable perfectly still and allow no rotation/pull on the cable.
This is rather frustrating, I must admit.
I'm going to go to the ATT store tomorrow and see if their demo unit has this same issue also.
(Side note: MHL doesn't work on my phone either, but I'm not sure if that's a side effect of the way I rooted my phone)
i noticed this problem with my 3.5mm in my car. I was stumped because my sony canal earbuds were working perfectly and my gaming headset (turtle beach hpx) was working perfectly as well (the jack on this is pretty big). I went to radioshack and tried a different 3.5mm and it fit perfectly. Im guessing certain plug-ins dont work for some reason.
this might be the most rediculous question I have ever asked but is there something special about this phone's headphone input? I've tried 3 different 3.5mm sets on it and none of the plugs go in all the way. They stick out a little less than quarter of the way and sometimes have poor sound quality. Wondering if this is some kind of design flaw or if i have to take it back to the store? thx!
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its normal for the phone cuz of the curved edge
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its normal for the phone cuz of the curved edge
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Really? So this is a design flaw Moto overlooked and not just my phone?
Guess this isn't a deal breaker for me, but can anyone recommend some headphones that go all the way and fits snug?
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Really? So this is a design flaw Moto overlooked and not just my phone?
Guess this isn't a deal breaker for me, but can anyone recommend some headphones that go all the way and fits snug?
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It isn't a design flaw -- it is a styling thing, nothing more. That portion of the plug is not (technically) necessary.
Your issue is either with your particular set of headphones, or your telephone. Using my phone to listen to music right now. The end does stick out, but the sound quality is perfect.
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It isn't a design flaw -- it is a styling thing, nothing more. That portion of the plug is not (technically) necessary.
Your issue is either with your particular set of headphones, or your telephone. Using my phone to listen to music right now. The end does stick out, but the sound quality is perfect.
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Same here. Actually, I have been very impressed with the D4 sound quality.
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On a slightly related note, I've tried plugging my phone into the AUX input of my car stereo. I find that this is pretty terrible; there's all sorts of radio interference on top of the audio. Something is not properly shielded somewhere, and I think it's the phone. (Probably, now that you mention it, because the plug doesn't fit all the way into the jack...) Have no problems like this using other audio devices...
Was your phone plugged into a charger when you tried plugging it in in the car?
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Nope. Would that have helped or hurt?
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I noticed this too. Some 3 ring jacks (usually for microphone equipped devices) don't seem to sound right, but I haven't tested the mic at all. So far though, aux seems to work fine, and as has been said, it's just because the phone is curved. I agree, though, a bunch of the cable bit sticking out seems like it's asking for interference, but no issues for me yet.
For someone coming from an iPhone to the Note 2, one of the most distressing things is the lack of earphones with functioning volume buttons. I say this because everyone with an iPhone is used to having a big selection of working headsets that have these controls. Because of the wide variety of android phones and their conficting standards, manufacturers have evidently decided it not worthwhile trying to make android compatible earphones with volume controls since they have assumed they'd have to be device specific, and instead opted for a few single button ones. I found this amazing, incomprehensible and unacceptable. You see, I live with my earphones. Besides listening to music or streaming podcasts, I take all my calls with earphones so that I can keep my hands free, and reaching constantly into my pocket to change the volume won't do.
After a laborious search, I've found earphones that work with my Note 2 (ie 3 button ones with volume controls as well as the pause/play button), but they all have issues or problems from my point of view. Nevertheless, the simple answer starts with looking for ones made by HTC or Samsung. Unfortunately, the ones I found from HTC have really cheap speakers and place the mic/controls near your belly button! They also place the mic at the point where the speaker wires branch rather than the typical spot 6" from the right earpiece on its own wire, so winding up the extra wire is an awkward solution at best (I tried it, ughh!) The Samsung OEM ones that should have come with the phone (I'm on ATT and as everyone knows, they didn't include them in their packaging), are fine with respect to the placement of the mic, but the sound may be iffy for some and I find the volume controls too small and poorly placed - I'm often hitting the wrong button. For me though, there was also another worse problem. I know I'm in a minority here, but I can't stand in-ear sound isolating earbuds. (Note: by in-ear, I mean the type that have flexible plastic tips that snug down into the ear canal a bit.) I find them uncomfortable after a very short time, and when I take calls, I feel like I'm speaking under water, or like I have my fingers in my ears. I actually prefer hearing the environmental sound a bit rather than cutting it off. Stupid me, I just prefer the plain old iPhone earphones (not the new earpods). They're cheap, have ok sound with moderate bass, and do what I want. All you others who don't agree with me, don't despair since what I propose applies equally to you.
My final solution to this nasty impass was to clip off the HTC or Samsung earphones and solder on my old iPhone earpieces. I'm writing all this because I know there are a lot of people more or less in my situation, and I just want to encourage people that it really is not hard at all to do this if you're able to solder at all. And afaik, the same applies to people who prefer in-ear buds, or even hi quality ones. Most earpieces are pretty easy to disassemble - one might have to score/lever the joint a bit, but basically you just give a twist with a pliers to the piece nearest your ear that has the grill or holds the in-ear piece, and the speaker and its wired connections can be pulled out of the housing and have its connections exposed. I was confused at first by the iPhone earphones since when I clipped the wire and examined it, there seemed to be four wires going to each earpiece. I spoke to an audio engineer for advice (who designed circuits, cables etc for the audio industry for 40 years) and his basic take on it was the quality is all in the speakers not in the switch, so you really can just swap them, and the extra wires are just twisted around to support the functioning wires structurally - each speaker really has two wires.
Luckily for me, it cost me nothing extra to try this as I had already bought three different working sets off eBay at $5 - $8 each and I had my old iPhone ones (actually two broken sets - I just used the good speaker from each). Anyway, if anyone's interested below are pics of the three Note 2 compatible types I bought (use them to find ones to buy since links change). Remember, in the end I only needed them for the plug, working switch/mic, and wires - the speakers are thrown away. And also pics of a disassembled iphone earpiece as well as a finished hybrid. The one I did uses the white HTC earphones as a base. I of course shortened the wires going to the earpieces. I don't mind the Samsung one once in a while, so I plan to order another and when it arrives, alter it as a spare hybrid like the other - with iPhone earpieces.
There are several other ones out there that would probably do as well as the ones I bought, but they all have in-ear type earpieces so I didn't order them, and I can't vouch for their volume controls working. I'd guess several will. Sometimes android earphones apparently use the outer buttons to advance or rewind (next track/previous track) so watch out for those. I don't see the point of them since double click/triple click does that for me with all the audio players I've tried (Walkman, PowerAmp, Player Pro) and the volume controls are more important to me anyway. It's also difficult to tell from the eBay pictures if the mic/controls are near the belly button or not, and after buying two that had this design, I didn't feel like trying more at random. If anyone has ordered other ones and found the buttons work (FOR VOLUME CONTROLS!) and especially if they have the better, single wire mic layout, I'd be interested if you'd post the name and pics of what you've tried and found works.
Soldering tips: dip the wire ends in a tiny bit of alcohol and briefly burn off the nylon support strands and coating with a cigarette lighter before tinning the ends and then soldering. If you are timid, cut the wire near the speaker (1") rather than desoldering it. You can then test the whole thing out by twisting wires together rather than straight away soldering your new wires to the speakers. The joint can still be coiled up and hidden in the earpiece housing. It will also keep clear what color wire goes where and if you aren't good with soldering (like me) that also has the advantage of not risking making a total mess of the contacts on the speakers straight away! The "standard" earphone color code is Red pair on Right channel, Blue or Green on Left.
On a related issue on audio on the Note 2, I'd like to mention that I had to use the volume mod (I edited my own default_gain.conf - root required) so that the phone call volume, as well as streaming audio such you get with news apps, was high enough for me - though I also increased the volume for music as well. Also, I recommend using the Equalizer app from the Play store rather than Beats Audio to add some extra bass etc to the earphones since unlike Beats, it is a system wide EQ, so you can improve the sound of podcasts and phone calls as well as your music! Using it necessitates disabling all other EQs.
Love the Note 2 and this forum! Good Luck and I hope this helps someone!
Sorry, I only made it half way to the 2nd paragraph. That's a long post.
Didn't read you long post but from the title I use some MEE i9p's the mic works fine but since they don't have a volume button cant answer that part.
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I say this because everyone with an iPhone is used to having a big selection of working headsets that have these controls. Because of the wide variety of android phones and their conficting standards, manufacturers have evidently decided it not worthwhile trying to make android compatible earphones with volume controls since they have assumed they'd have to be device specific, and instead opted for a few single button ones.
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Isn't Apple the odd one out here? Their inline remotes don't work in other devices, but an inline remote that works for android also works for blackberry devices. The inline remotes made for android devices all work for each android device.. what the buttons actually do is a different story. Oddly, for samsung, the ff and rw buttons control the volume in their devices instead.. but I think this is a more ideal usage of it. Since if you get a rom that has hold volume for ff or rw, you'll have double usage of the buttons. On HTC devices, they work as intended (ff and rw actually ff and rw).
I use these scull candys and they function properly...
Ok. So out of the replies so far most stated they didnt read it all since its rather lengthy. Props for honesty guys. I did read all of the post. The OP has done his or her homework and confirmed a few suspicions and answered a few questions I had about earbud controls. Along with a very educated way of asking us to give feedback on successful full volume controls and what breand or models we found worked.
I have been useing the Samsung buds that came with my wifes S3. So yea full control on every rom I have used thus far. Hybrid and Jedi.
Great post OP. Everyone else read the entire post before replying.
I just got the Motorola S11 Flex HD (Bluetooth headphones). They are sweat proof and designed for running and working out. They have a power button, multi-function button, a volume up and down button. I enjoy the freedom of being wireless, especially when running/working out.
Audio quality is ok, probably no worse than the standard headset the come with most devices. They don't compare to my quality headphones (Shure SE530, Klipsch X10). I'm sure you lose some audio quality when making the device sweat proof.
What I wasn't expecting was the built in mic to work as well as they did. I've made three phone calls and they all said I sounded fine and in fact better than my previous BT headset. Now this wasn't in windy or noisy conditions, but still better than I expected.
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Oddly, for samsung, the ff and rw buttons control the volume in their devices instead.. but I think this is a more ideal usage of it. Since if you get a rom that has hold volume for ff or rw, you'll have double usage of the buttons. On HTC devices, they work as intended (ff and rw actually ff and rw).
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That's why I use a 3-button Samsung headphone set and a music player that uses long-press (or multi-press) of the answer/end button to skip tracks.
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Isn't Apple the odd one out here? Their inline remotes don't work in other devices, but an inline remote that works for android also works for blackberry devices. The inline remotes made for android devices all work for each android device.. what the buttons actually do is a different story. Oddly, for samsung, the ff and rw buttons control the volume in their devices instead.. but I think this is a more ideal usage of it. Since if you get a rom that has hold volume for ff or rw, you'll have double usage of the buttons. On HTC devices, they work as intended (ff and rw actually ff and rw).
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Its because Apple made the 3rd pin on the headphone jack just a little lower so you can't use their headphones anywhere else except on an Apple device. It forces all the other OEM's to follow suit hence the "lack" of support for Android. Another silly game of having proprietary devices. Haven't you noticed that with there new "lightning" connector? The world is using microUSB Apple for goodness sake!
Because of that, I decided to drop the inline button management and went back to the old school way of doing things (manually), Klipsch Image X10's baby.
If I ever do decide to manage my music, I'll use a stereo bluetooth device with built-in audio controls.
Guys, I just bought these for $6.99, voila volume controls. Compared to the OEM ones that came with my friend's Sprint Note 2 and they are identical. Wish I could use my Klipsch over-ears but hey, these sound decent for the price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AW0FR3561
Sorry to all if my message got lost by making my post too long. The really short version of it is you can have your cake and eat it too. Afaik, the volume controls/mic on Apple or Samsung or Htc earphones all do the same thing but in slightly different ways and don't influence the sound quality of the speakers. It is pretty easy to clip off the cheap earphones from a Note 2 compatible set and replace them with the higher quality earpieces of your choice. The hybrid earphones I made are identical as far as my ears can tell to the unaltered Apple ones. I am really happy with them. If I found another set with much better quality (not inear ones), I wouldn't hesitate to do the same again.
So, themyst, you could simply cut off the Klipsch earpieces and solder them on to a Samsung set of wires if you wanted to, though I would be cautious and try carefully opening an earpiece assembly first to verify that there are only two wires going to the speaker before cutting anything!
@[-]awkeye, I could be wrong here, but I really don't think the incompatibility of iPhone headphones with Android has anything to do with the 3rd pin of the plug. I attach below a photo of the Samsung earphone jack (left) right next to the Apple one (right) for you to look for yourself. I think they are both standard 4 pin plugs.
My audio engineer friend believed that the problem is a proprietary IC on the tiny circuit board that controls the switch and mic. The two different switches I guess send different amounts or types of current (have a different impedance?) back to the phone. My guess is that it should be possible to interpret the Apple signals within Android via a software fix of some kind, though it might have to be low level, ie part of the OS.
In any case, I have also read that Android earphones themselves don't follow any standard and that causes a further problem for third part manufacturers. The first and fourth pins for example have their wires swapped in some Android models. So the wires that lead to the pins can be different, the switches can be different, but the wires that lead to the speakers should all be the same, or at least that was the case for all the earphones I cut up. It's part of the reason I made this post -- to try to get more definitive answers on this whole subject. If anyone comes across a different speaker wiring design, I would be interested to know.
If you want true 'hands free', then go bluetooth style.
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Yes I agree, a bluetooth headset with volume controls would be great, even ideal, though personally I don't like the wrap around designs. I suppose they are made that way to work with jogging. Perhaps I could get used to it as long as it didn't cut off the outside sound like your typical in-ear buds. Ideal for me would just be unobtrusive speakers that fit in your ears without any wires, but then how would you control the volume etc?
There are bluetooth ear buds with noise cancellation as well as volume control.
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Sorry to all if my message got lost by making my post too long. The really short version of it is you can have your cake and eat it too. Afaik, the volume controls/mic on Apple or Samsung or Htc earphones all do the same thing but in slightly different ways and don't influence the sound quality of the speakers. It is pretty easy to clip off the cheap earphones from a Note 2 compatible set and replace them with the higher quality earpieces of your choice. The hybrid earphones I made are identical as far as my ears can tell to the unaltered Apple ones. I am really happy with them. If I found another set with much better quality (not inear ones), I wouldn't hesitate to do the same again.
So, themyst, you could simply cut off the Klipsch earpieces and solder them on to a Samsung set of wires if you wanted to, though I would be cautious and try carefully opening an earpiece assembly first to verify that there are only two wires going to the speaker before cutting anything!
@[-]awkeye, I could be wrong here, but I really don't think the incompatibility of iPhone headphones with Android has anything to do with the 3rd pin of the plug. I attach below a photo of the Samsung earphone jack (left) right next to the Apple one (right) for you to look for yourself. I think they are both standard 4 pin plugs.
My audio engineer friend believed that the problem is a proprietary IC on the tiny circuit board that controls the switch and mic. The two different switches I guess send different amounts or types of current (have a different impedance?) back to the phone. My guess is that it should be possible to interpret the Apple signals within Android via a software fix of some kind, though it might have to be low level, ie part of the OS.
In any case, I have also read that Android earphones themselves don't follow any standard and that causes a further problem for third part manufacturers. The first and fourth pins for example have their wires swapped in some Android models. So the wires that lead to the pins can be different, the switches can be different, but the wires that lead to the speakers should all be the same, or at least that was the case for all the earphones I cut up. It's part of the reason I made this post -- to try to get more definitive answers on this whole subject. If anyone comes across a different speaker wiring design, I would be interested to know.
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Interesting, but I don't have any plans cutting up my 100 headphones. I can't believe some manufacturer in China hasn't made Samsung / Android compatible control adapters yet!
I have the zagg buds and they seem to work granted no forward / back but the button will play/pause and mute when in calls.
themyst said:
Guys, I just bought these for $6.99, voila volume controls. Compared to the OEM ones that came with my friend's Sprint Note 2 and they are identical. Wish I could use my Klipsch over-ears but hey, these sound decent for the price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AW0FR3561
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Well, if you like Klipsch, there is an Android-friendly solution, the S4a which even has a companion app for controlling what the buttons do and various other things.
If you want to use your own conventional headphones, there are options that don't require any re-wiring. My N2 works very nicely with my Jabra Clipper, a Bluetooth device that comes with a mike and a 3.5mm socket. It allows you to use any earphones as both a media device and a phone headset. Just the opposite of having to re-wire the headset to your N2, this allows you to go wireless and keep your phone in a pants pocket or bag. Its battery recharges with the same microUSB connector as the N2's.
In fact, the earphones that come with the Clipper aren't too bad themselves. But I use the Clipper with pre-Android Klipsch S4 earphones and I'm very happy with the result.
Both the Clipper and the Klipsch S4a are widely available, including on eBay.
Neither the Jabra nor S4a have volume controls...
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Neither the Jabra nor S4a have volume controls...
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I have a Jabra Clipper and I use its volume controls all the time. Yours must be broken.
Actually, they're generic +/- controls (which the S4a has as well, as does the Sony MW600 which I have also owned). You can determine in software whether the buttons are used for volume or for previous/next. I use mine for volume.
el56, no, I don't have either - I was just wrong! Thanks for the clarification. This is the kind of info I was hoping to hear about. If we get some more, I'll add a list to the thread (Volume enabled earphones). I've looked at the Klipsch (S4a) in the stores several times but never saw it out of the package and was under the impression it had no volume controls. It looked like it had one button to me, and actually I wasn't all that interested in them anyway. I'd bought a pair (S4i?) for my iPhone a year or so ago and wasn't impressed with the sound - they sounded tinny to me. I wondered in fact if they were defective but I didn't take it further. But more importantly they were the in-ear type which I can't use for long stretches or for phone calls.
I guess I didn't understand what the Jabra was, and I never even heard of the Sony, so thanks for pointing them out also. If I get it now, they are really a different category device - not earphones, but sending units that they plug into. I particularly like the idea of having an FM radio (which I guess comes with the Sony). How does the mic work though? If it's part of the unit and not on the wires, isn't it awkward to hold that up to your mouth. Nevertheless it looks worth trying out. So far, yours is the best response I've gotten to this post! Thanks again.