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newb quest whats the difference tween touch2d and 3d

so whats the difference animated weather?
what are the pros and cons of using either?
or are they really just the same?
let the flames begin
I searched touchflo2d vs 3d and couldnt find any info
so sorry in advanced if it was already covered else where.

hmmmmm.....lets see here
Pro's of TF3D:
Great Animation
Great Graphics
Accurate Weather(its fun too )
Fast
Cons:
Not the easiest thing to configure
Takes a while to get everything working properly and fast(Flashing a ROM and all of that)
Landscape
Pro's of M2D:
Works on any device
Is easy to config
Just as fast as TF3D
Weather is ok but not very animated
Cons:
2D Graphics are not the best
Landscape

More importantly right now, with M3d you can't put your phone into standby while it's running. And on my phone it ran like a dog!

guess you havent read my thread about TF3D on our kaisers

kaiserII101 said:
hmmmmm.....lets see here
Pro's of TF3D:
Great Animation
Great Graphics
Accurate Weather(its fun too )
Fast
Cons:
Not the easiest thing to configure
Takes a while to get everything working properly and fast(Flashing a ROM and all of that)
Landscape
Pro's of M2D:
Works on any device
Is easy to config
Just as fast as TF3D
Weather is ok but not very animated
Cons:
2D Graphics are not the best
Landscape
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ah
my 1st attempt at getting tf3d to install on my stock rom was a failer it just kept looping loading touch here to load and would freeze up and never load. I did a hardreset and I got 2d to load.
so with t3d it needs to be installed on top of a cooked rom it wont run on a stock 6.1 rom?
can you get both options to show up under home options or is it 1 or the other. I like play with my apps and switch back and forth till I decide which one works best for me being able install both would ber great less trouble hardrestting each time I wqant to compare.
thanks for replying

you cant have both M2D and TF3D both installed....in my signature there is a link covering a lot on TF3D and yes it has to be a cooked ROM.

I use L26 TF3D Rom V4 and even though it is a little annoying to have to kill (turn off) Manilla everytime you want to put your phone to sleep, it is a great rom. My question is this. What is the difference between Manilla and Throttle? I tried searching but perhaps I did not search correctly. Thanks everyone.

kaiserII101 said:
you cant have both M2D and TF3D both installed....in my signature there is a link covering a lot on TF3D and yes it has to be a cooked ROM.
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Ah thanks I thought I followed all the instructions in your t3d thread correctly.
I just got my tilt so will wait a few weeks (atleast till the 90 warranty runs out) before I start flashing cooked roms to it. Im using a ported blackstone m2d rom on my wizard and refuse to use the old htchome screen on my new phone
thanks for the help I would have spet the next few days trying to get t3d to work on my factory rom.

kaiserII101 said:
guess you havent read my thread about TF3D on our kaisers
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Ooh - no. That thread must have started about a week after I last tried TF3D and I missed it! I'll have to give it another try now.... (damn you )

rom FINDING

hI CAN ENYONE TELL WHERE TO SEARCH FOR FINGERFRENDLY COMPLEET rom LIKE 3D ROTATING CUBE, FOR MY P3600, ROM IS DIAMOND BY AKEO BUT SARTED SLOWING DOWN?

Haven't got a ROM, but i have installed iContact and ThumbCal along with TouchFlo to give me a finger friendlyish Trinity.

thanks
I allsow instaled icontacts but mj fheme is not hevinh no moovment so it is boring and mj sms kejebord is tiny eaven for a tylush, rotating the c\screen is very complycated when worcking something...etc.
so i thought that new ROM wih are all ine some complicated palaces of the forum, is going to be fine.
thanks again

For a keyboard i am using CooTek's TouchPal, it works just fine for fingers. i rarely rotate my Trinity so cant pass comment on landscape issues.

manila
I am downloading
OEM_MegaPack_Manilla2d_OEM_V2.15_w19_Themes.rar
do yow think it is going to halp?
thanks ill try the keypad

crack/
do I need a crack for this, it says "CooTek's Touchpal brings an arguably improved keypad design to Windows Mobile 5 and 6 devices for free -- at least, free until December 8th."?

danilo01 said:
do I need a crack for this, it says "CooTek's Touchpal brings an arguably improved keypad design to Windows Mobile 5 and 6 devices for free -- at least, free until December 8th."?
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As for the Manilla stuff i can't answer as i have never tried it.
Not sure on CooTek, it wasn't free at any point wjen i installed it. Just looked and it seems as though all the features i use are now in the free version, pooh. . Well i sometimes use one of the other keyboard layouts so i guess not

thanks very mutch
I tried to flash a rom ,and it broked in botloader ,i tried many other ros and only RUU_Trinity_HTC_WWE_1.15.405.5_6275_1.20.00.11_12201_Ship instaled secsesfuly, and seems it do not have SMS at all.....so untill I solve rom problrm i do not need a keyeboard...

Manila 3D .cab...Help please !!

Hello Seniors,
I have a Tytn II with normal Rom version 3.29.707.0 WWE
Radio Version is 1.65.16.25
I am very new to this ROM cooking & flashing thing but it looks amazing & interesting to see how you make your devices look mesmerizing with all those features that you work upon. I read few instructions about how to install these cooked roms with RUU files..But due to lack of knowledge & experience, it doesn't seem to be working for me. I am looking forward to a Manila 3d or 2d rom's .cab file which comparatively is easier to install. Can someone please help me with a file or a link from where i can get a working Manila or any other Touch 3D rom's .cab file that i can use for my Kaiser..Your help will be highly appreciated.
I found one working .cab file for Manila 2d but it doesn't work in landscape mode.

here u go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465507 follow instructions after download and all should be fine, figured i do this b4 they hopped all over you telling you to search

looking for a quick fix will almost always get you nowhere. Try clicking on the link titled "For all the people that want a cool phone" in my Sig and read the post.

Thanks !!
Thank you all for your response as it really was helping. I appreciate your views about the journey. Not just getting the meal served on table rather also to know how it is being prepared in the kitchen & what's it all about ! Will definitely keep up my research & will try to make most of it. Please keep helping & suggesting as it really helps. I know it's not sumthing that you're here for. But again if u spare some time for queries that u feel r considerable it'd be great. And yes i've gone thru the link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465507 and tried to make it work on my Kaiser..But Touch-Flo 3d was not initiated even after flashing on screen again & again..I got the Second start up & Diamond Album work though..But didn't see Manila 3D working even i tried installing files in my device memory as specified serial order :
TF3D-QVGA
Opera
HTC AudioManager by Swtos
TF3D Standby
Touch Response
HTC-Diamond-Album
Manilla 3D landscape
Please help if anything needs to be done apart from these !!

Manila 2D does not work in Landscape. Also your ROM version is incorrect. You would know this if you read the whole post, and before flashing -G-'s ROM you need to flash Hard-SPL 3.29

It Worked
Hey I played with the files that were attached in the link mentioned in my previous rep..A little shuffle with them And i made Manila 3D work on my Kaiser..I installed HTC-CA-KAIS- 3D Drivers..Also instead of 3D Standby attached in the same link..I used Mortscript..QVGA Touch Power & TouchPower + TF3D Stanby cabs to get it working alongwith an advanced power menu thru the Power button..The only problem is that the phone has become really slow now. Also the Manila 3D's album feature is not detecting any albums neither looks like working properly. I will try to install Kaiser Tweaks as i read in a thread as my phone is freezing while a call comes !! Any suggestions are welcome..Cheers

vicky_crispy said:
Hey I played with the files that were attached in the link mentioned in my previous rep..A little shuffle with them And i made Manila 3D work on my Kaiser..I installed HTC-CA-KAIS- 3D Drivers..Also instead of 3D Standby attached in the same link..I used Mortscript..QVGA Touch Power & TouchPower + TF3D Stanby cabs to get it working alongwith an advanced power menu thru the Power button..The only problem is that the phone has become really slow now. Also the Manila 3D's album feature is not detecting any albums neither looks like working properly. I will try to install Kaiser Tweaks as i read in a thread as my phone is freezing while a call comes !! Any suggestions are welcome..Cheers
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Glad you got everything working, but obviously when you download a lot of crap that wasn't meant for your phone onto your phone,to make it look cool, it uses a lot of resources. While TF3D looks really cool and everyone here has done a great job porting it to our Kaisers, I still think that M2D gives you a lot more " bang for your buck " with fewer problems and fewer needed work a rounds.

RESULTS
Well i agree Denko that this feature is not meant for Kaisers by default. But by using certain means & making them work is what "Development" is all about. I understand there's a price for everything that we do. And after all d research & experiments that i did with my Kaiser..Its not the "Kewl" thing neither the 3D effect that is making me go crazy but its simpy the efforts & the result that i finally derived through them which again has inspired me that i can go ahead & experiment and maybe create new things too. And I can understand on thing for sure, that for a technology freak, There's no end to modifications & development as it's an on-going process.You've yourself been a part of same thing for a long time now i guess, But for me its sumthing i've stepped upon, So i'l take my time & maybe react too. Though you might find it too small to react & childish too, But datz d way it is. Thanks once again for your wise help & suggestions. Now next thing i'd wanna do to my Tilt is Flash a ROM in it..Maybe by next week. And that's sumthing i'm li'l scared of because i dnt wana cause harm to my device at d same time. And even after reading tutorial, M nt getting it worked as my phone gets disconnected from USB mode as soon as i start burning a ROM. Also i dnt really know how to get a HARD SPL 3.56 on my device. I tried that but it didn't work too. Is there some video tutorial that gives a sneek-peek into the action. Anyways i think m going too fast for that, And there's no hurry. So what are you working upon these days ?? And what do you do ?

Clarify & help please ???
kaiserII101 said:
Manila 2D does not work in Landscape. Also your ROM version is incorrect. You would know this if you read the whole post, and before flashing -G-'s ROM you need to flash Hard-SPL 3.29
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Than'x for your reply. Though what do you mean my ROM version is incorrect ?? I bought this TyTN II GSM version from an HTC Store in august 2008. Still its ROM Version is not upto date ? Well if it isn't then what can i do to get it working. And please just dnt show me direction thru a finger, I might need a GPS as m really not fimiliar with your technical jargons, Be it while communicating with you all or in the thread that you refer people to go read to get their answers..I understand it to an extent..But not good enuff to get it working at one go. Plus i dnt wanna harm my device too

<~THANK YOU~>
fiyaburnz said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465507 follow instructions after download and all should be fine, figured i do this b4 they hopped all over you telling you to search
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Than'x buddy..It did work..Though made me work it out from noon till night..But after few shuffles in the files mentioned in your link + Some that i did research & found from other threads..Manilla 3D is finally working in my Kaiser with everything fixed though my device has become a li'l slow that the time when i was using Manila 2D..Anyways i'l use it for a few days & if feel its affecting the speed to an extent where its bothering me i'l remove it !! Anyways than'x for ur help though..Cheers

vicky_crispy said:
Than'x for your reply. Though what do you mean my ROM version is incorrect ?? I bought this TyTN II GSM version from an HTC Store in august 2008. Still its ROM Version is not upto date ? Well if it isn't then what can i do to get it working. And please just dnt show me direction thru a finger, I might need a GPS as m really not fimiliar with your technical jargons, Be it while communicating with you all or in the thread that you refer people to go read to get their answers..I understand it to an extent..But not good enuff to get it working at one go. Plus i dnt wanna harm my device too
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by your ROM version being incorrect i mean that you need -G-'s ROM. After you go through Hard-SPL just install TF3D. The HTC-CA drviers are cooked into his ROM and it makes TF3D a hell of a lot smoother and faster. So you don't need to install the drivers. Thats what was wrong in the first place is you didn't have the drivers which I see you installed in with a CAB but with them bring cooked in it makes it a lot better

How to get -G- Rom ???
kaiserII101 said:
by your ROM version being incorrect i mean that you need -G-'s ROM. After you go through Hard-SPL just install TF3D. The HTC-CA drviers are cooked into his ROM and it makes TF3D a hell of a lot smoother and faster. So you don't need to install the drivers. Thats what was wrong in the first place is you didn't have the drivers which I see you installed in with a CAB but with them bring cooked in it makes it a lot better
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Sir,
thank you for your suggestion. But as I've mentioned in my previous Replies, I am a rookie when it comes to Kaiser or ROM cooking & flashing. So i tried to flash some ROMS in my Kaiser but it failed. I mean my device is connected to my PC thru USB..And then i go thru those normal RUU file initiation screen too. But as it turns into 3 color screen & status shows "0%", It gets stuck right there & gets Disconnected from the USB connection !! And what about HARD SPL...How can i get it done to my Device..Specially with the configuration that i have on Kaiser. Because like i mentioned, I try to flash things through RUU..My phone gets disconnected frm USB ?? And wanted to resolve the query that DO our phones come with a HARD-SPL already ?? What is it actually & Hw can we check if its there on our device already or not ?? I tried by pressing both the "SOFTKEYS" at the same time..all that happened is that my phone screen got locked (Normal screen-lock)..I also tried pressing CAMERA & POWER buttons together for almost 30 seconds..Nothing happened Well these threads help me to an extent as i keep reading. But if there's some specific directions that i can get specific to my query. It might help..Or maybe if there's a Video-tutorial. Plus if you are getting what actually my problem is..I mean with the device..like if there are some specific files that i should use for it to get working..Please attach the links if you would. Because i did check the video of Touchflo 3D manila on Youtube & it was quick out there !! Also i installed some Kaiser tweaks (KaiserTweak-nikagl-20080613-1711) as i read in a thread installing tweaks make Kaiser speed up a lil bit when using Manila 3D..But the Touch-Incall-Screen-Tweal seems to give some trouble as the incoming call screen gets stuck..It did twice today morning. So i have un-installed those tweaks !! So if there's sumthing that you think might get my device a li'l boosted up along with Manila 3D..Please refer that too !! I'l try to flash a ROM once i receive your response about how & which version of HARD SPL will b fine for my Kaiser..And how can i get it on my device ??
Your reply will be awaited & appreciated.. Thanks in Advance

Flashing Your First Kaiser Rom (For Noobs)

click the link stylez posted, don't be embarrassed, I was there about 6 months ago

vicky_crispy said:
Than'x buddy..It did work..Though made me work it out from noon till night..But after few shuffles in the files mentioned in your link + Some that i did research & found from other threads..Manilla 3D is finally working in my Kaiser with everything fixed though my device has become a li'l slow that the time when i was using Manila 2D..Anyways i'l use it for a few days & if feel its affecting the speed to an extent where its bothering me i'l remove it !! Anyways than'x for ur help though..Cheers
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no prob i used it and it worked fine for me i just switched back to 2d about 2 days ago and im already thinking about going back to 3d

installing M3D really makes my Kaiser slow. i installed M2D instead and installed M3D skin i dont have any problem w/ it right now

yeah but buddy here is the thing. The skin pales compared to the actual thing . And you probably didn't flash -G-'s ROM I bet?

Flashed GK.10.Final Rom
kaiserII101 said:
yeah but buddy here is the thing. The skin pales compared to the actual thing . And you probably didn't flash -G-'s ROM I bet?
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Hey Senior..Than'x for all your support & guidance..I flashed Garmin's version 10 final rom on my Kaiser yesterday night..I had a li'l fear in my mind before i initiated HardSPL 3.29 & then Flashing GK.10.Final on my phone but all that happened very smooth & gave my device an all new look. Now what i am wondering is that how can i use Manila 3D or should i say 3D interface on my Kaiser. Or i must say you advice me what will look the best on my Kaiser. If you have any roms or suggestions upon what can i do post installing -G-'s rom on my kaiser..Or is it the complete package within itself..Please do advice me regarding this..I really would like to move on to the next level..Its really adventurous..Cheers to y'all !!
Regards,
Vicky

Everything you need for Manila3D should be in the ZIP file over at the TF3D thread. Be sure to read the Readme

SUCCESS !!!
kaiserII101 said:
Everything you need for Manila3D should be in the ZIP file over at the TF3D thread. Be sure to read the Readme
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Senior I used the TF3D files in the .rar file as you mentioned in the post yesterday night itself as the excitement was too high & it was too hard to stop..So i worked upon my Kaiser till the morning & uploaded TF3D Manila. To my wonder the Incall Tweak was not required this time as the phone didn't freeze on incoming call. Earlier it didn't use to display caller ID as it was left hidden begind Manila Interface..But not anymore. I also used some additional tabs like the Additional 3 tabs, Call Log, Calendar & Command manager tabs. I also installed S2U2 v 1.52 on my phone. And now TF3D Manila works on my Kaiser like the Nitrous in the car. Then i used Flash Format & formatted my 4Gig card as it got corrupted a li'l while back with the folders getting unaccessible with some strange signs & i was unable to format it using Pocket Mechanic. But finally everything is in place & working absolutely fine herre as i have installed some more programs using the other threads for Kaiser software..Will try & add some Pictures of Manila 3D running over Garmin's DK.10.Final ROM. Will cherish this ROM for sometime & then will try using something different & better on my Kaiser. You can advice what will be the next thing that i should do which will be fantastic for my Device !!
It would have never been possible without you guys who work hard on development part & bother to help rookies like us with queries too. Gr8 job

New to Diamond2, just required some basic help.

Hi everybody, I recently got a Diamond2 and found that the enormous amount of expertise and help available at xda-developers have really helped me enjoy this phone. The phone is not locally supported by any carriers or retailers in Canada so the availability of these forums have been a real help. I've run through most of the issues I've had with the phone (really like the Pro2 Interface better but was way to bulky) but have a few remaining that I haven't been able to find satisfactory answers for, hope you guys will be able to help.
I've downloaded and played around with what seem to be most of the prerequisite softwares: Advanced Config Tool, Klaxon, Changescreen etc. and have also made a couple of registry modifications to enable TF3D rotation and things like that. Here is where I'm getting into a bit of trouble. Although changescreen is a great app I just don't like to install a lot of things on my device and decided to try the regedit. After a soft reset it seemed to work great but was quite slow in switching over to landscape and back. At first I though this was a problem with the g-sensor so I opened up Opera to try it out and found that it was much faster. Obviously it's a lot less graphically intense but I was playing around with a Touch Pro2 before I bought the Diamond2 and it is also significantly faster, with the same processor and everything. I've tried to reduce the sampling time for the g-sensor down from 200ms to 100ms in ACT but that didn't really seem to help. Also I get some really weird lines across the tops of TF3D pages in landscape; in the All Contacts page for example the bar that contains "Search Contacts" will have at least three sets of distorted lines across it at regular intervals across the page. The wallpaper also seems to malfunction as instead of staying as it was, it will stretch across the width of the screen and as a result become extremely distorted. The dialer doesn't go into landscape but that seems to be a common issue. I've downloaded the Rhodium Phone Dialer although I haven't had a chance to install it yet, maybe that will fix the dialer issue.
I do have some app installed that changes the background of all tabs to be the same and this seems to have messed with the transparency of the tab bar and, occasionally the phone will fail to respond to screen swipes that would usually cycle through the tabs without using the tab bar. Maybe this app is also causing the other problems.
The help on these forums has already been a great asset and I was just hoping that I would be able to get some simple fixes for the issues with the landscape thing without having to install more software. Thanks in advance for any help, its all appreciated. Cheers.
PS, rom is 1.39.421.0 (47382) WWE

what you can do to improve things:
1. ditch stock rom and use tess rom
2. install flipit for rotation software - its better than the rest IMO

Thanks for the quick reply
Thanks for the quick reply, sorry I wasn't able to reply right away, got a bit busy at uni.
I was a bit apprehensive about installing a new rom but the one you recommended is amazing. The speed increase alone is unbelievable, doesn't even feel like the same device.
Everything is working great and the rotation is really fast now on everything except TF3D. It almost looks like it attempts to rotate and then fails. The title bars rotate around and then rotate back. I've added the regedit, manually removed and added it back into flip_it, but nothing seems to be working. Aside from that everything else seems perfect. Hope you'll be able to help, and once again, thanks.

oh yeah.. forgot to mention about manila in landscape
go to search and look for At0mAng & Danny_and_2 TF3D2 Tweak cab for topaz
install, and in the list of programs, there is option called Manila Rotate ON.
and thats it, you are all set...
hope this helps

joseph.sapri said:
1. ditch stock rom and use tess rom
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Can I ask where to read and get this rom?
I am also new to Topaz.
Running on stock ROM
been reading around. reading on the various rom threads to decide which to use.
I am looking for something stable, fast (aren't we all?) and 6.1. Still got Manila and hopefully with Titanium built in. Also if possible with ringtones removed.
What would you recommend?
Thanks

Goondu said:
Can I ask where to read and get this rom?
I am also new to Topaz.
Running on stock ROM
been reading around. reading on the various rom threads to decide which to use.
I am looking for something stable, fast (aren't we all?) and 6.1. Still got Manila and hopefully with Titanium built in. Also if possible with ringtones removed.
What would you recommend?
Thanks
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tess = topaz essential
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529260

Almost there
Thanks for the tip about the tweak program, installed it and followed your directions, manila is now rotating. However, its still incredibly slow; in the range of 3-5 seconds for transition to landscape and then around 1-2 seconds back to portrait. Also, those distortive lines I described earlier are back.
I was hoping for the kind of speed seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPVgN5QuzO4 but I do realize that its a different rom. I've disabled and enabled TF3D and also done a soft reset, but no speed increase. I was thinking it may be a hardware issue but everything else works fine. One thing I have noticed though is that since installing this rom some programs get stuck half rotated and the other half of the screen will display the TF3D home page. Once again, thanks for all the help so far.
P.S. If I disable TF3D the blank today screen will rotate at the same speed as in that video if not faster. Also before when the menus rotated but not TF3D they were rotating at the same fast speed.

yes, I know what you mean.. at this stage, manila rotates pretty slow for me too...
I guess at the moment, we have to live with it... the slow rotation only happens on tf3d2 rite? the rest is ok...
as with hardware issue, I am sure it is not, cause topaz is still relatively new...
btw, Manila 2.1 is around, and manila 2.5 is coming too... so, maybe they would give better performance .
btw, the youtube link is a rom made by Tom Condon, and as you probably know, he is very active in building rom for topaz too... why dont you give him a message, or try his rom...
Tha

sorry double post again..

Sounds good
Glad to know that it wasn't just a one off issue. I'll give his rom a shot, was kind of wary b/c of the comments that said WM 6.5 was slow. Would you be able to direct me to somewhere that I'd be able to download TF3D 2.1 alone without a rom upgrade or anything or maybe even cooked into the TESS rom. Thanks for the incredible quick reply and for all the help so far.

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Glad to know that it wasn't just a one off issue. I'll give his rom a shot, was kind of wary b/c of the comments that said WM 6.5 was slow. Would you be able to direct me to somewhere that I'd be able to download TF3D 2.1 alone without a rom upgrade or anything or maybe even cooked into the TESS rom. Thanks for the incredible quick reply and for all the help so far.
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if you follow tess forum, then the next release would have manila 2.1

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Ye, sorry about that didn't quite follow the forum all the way, I guess I'll be waiting. Thanks man.

[Re-Opened] Touch Flo 3D And 2D QVGA- Apps and Updates

I started up this thread for any Kaiser user who uses, develops or does anything with Touch flo 3d Qvga (I Know there are other threads about these programs, this is to bring it into one place).
Posts on Applications, themes or anything for tf3d-qvga-3 and Touchflo 2d v 2.0 build 1919 is welcome!
Here is the kaiser D3D Driver.
If any Concerns Contact me at: [email protected]
I found a Standby App that shuts down TF3D when you power down:
Youtube App Also:

I thought Touch flo 3d doesn't work on Kaiser? Did someone get it working?

Dukenukemx said:
I thought Touch flo 3d doesn't work on Kaiser? Did someone get it working?
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It works, it just doesn't work very well. TF3D needs the HTC-Class Action drivers, which are incompatible with all ROMS running the 101MB RAM hack. In addition, even if it does work on your ROM, a bug with the drivers prevents the device from entering standby while TF3D was enabled. A mortscript was made to disable it when the device was suspended or going to suspend, but it still took awhile and sometimes didn't work at all. Then, it would resume TF3D after waking the device, which also took awhile and intermittently worked.
There was a thread awhile back here, which put all the information in one place, so check it out if you're interested. But the way I see it, until fully working ATI Imageon/MSM7200 drivers are released for our devices, TF3D is unusable. If you want something that works well though, try the newest Manila 2d from the HTC Mega, which has the flipping clock and some of the looks of TF3D without the problems, and with this installed, it looks pretty similar.

Last nite i managed to experiment and install TF3D! on my htc tytn II, i used Unholy's Gaming Rom which doesnt have 101 ram and has D3D Drivers built in, i have to say for stuff thats experimental it does work quite well, its responsive and looks fantastic, it does take a bit to initialise once u come out of standby/sleep, but other than that i had a total ram usage of 50% used, 50% free which wasnt too bad, i think a fully working TF3D for our Kaisers is not too far away, as long as development continues, big up to da guys who have made this possible!

The problem seems to be that the drivers are in terrible shape. Doesn't work with roms using 101MB ram hack, and it won't allow the phone to go into standby.
How different is the MSM7200 vs MSM7201A? If devices using the MSM7201A chipset can run Touch Flo 3D just fine, then why can't we just take the drivers from those devices?
If someone has some experience with hacking drivers, I bet you can get those drivers working. I bet someone from Beyond3D could do it.

Some Screenshots Of Manila 2D:

hi bj... thx for the threads...it work just nice on my kaiser...but still have problems with bat power n backlight....seems it auto manage them when bat almost out...

nommy76 said:
hi bj... thx for the threads...it work just nice on my kaiser...but still have problems with bat power n backlight....seems it auto manage them when bat almost out...
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Is This the standby program? if it is, the program doesnt like the backlight settings in. try turning them off. another way around this is to program one of the hardware keys to <none> then when the backlight turns off, push the button. it should turn the backlight back on.
it took me ages to find how to fix this problem. its painful but its worth it
Hope this Helps

Makes sense
here is a video of the new sense ui for htc touch 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDhnhrdYP0I

Background to all pages
Background for all tabs
I havent tested this yet...but here is the download

BG all pages
thx but after installed it, it doesn't work its ok i'll satisfied with my TF3D v3 now...the stand_by also work very well so now my bat last longer...hope i could post all the cab files n some images of my Kaiser...

TF3D on htc tyTn 11 Kaiser+S2U2+S2P
i take no credit just wanna share...

more images...
a few more images...

and the files...
still i'll take no credit for all these...really wanna share it...
take note these cabs/files are use on my kaiser and i don't know if it runs on others...used at your own risk...pls read the instructions first...cheers..
the files...
1. TF3D-QVGA_v3
2. NFSFAN Opera 9.5
3. htc audio manager by Swtos
4. htc Diamond album
5. TouchResponce v02_2
6. htc CA_Kaiser_Drivers
7. TouchPower & tf3dStandBy
8. M3D Lanscape
9. YoutubeQVGA
10. MortScript
11. Uzeb QVGA tf3d font patch (makes ur font a bit clearer)
12. No Curtains and Transparent bottom bar
13. Pamas Transparent Slider
14. MobileMatt CrystalClockWhite
15. S2U2-2.04QVGA
16. S2P-0.73betaQVGA
17. S2V-0.42QVGA (actually not working on my Kaiser, my bad to include this)
18. tPRO for S2P QVGA (theme that goes with TF3D)
Download the zip files at RapidShare from here..
and attached is standby in mortscript. (just extract all the files to your storage card)
...added fire charging phase; extract batteryg.png copy/paste and overwrites the png files to s2us folder in device/programfiles/S2U2

Screenshots!
Mate! love the screenshots it looks great! thanks for the links some there i didnt have.

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doesn't work on my device..

One thing i know about Manilla... be it 2D or 3D... is that it's never the same instaling it, or having it cooked in a rom.
You'll never have the same stabillity... functionality even.
We could, of course, have a cook try and give us one very simple 6.1 rom with manilla3D cooked in.... it would be nice... just as a proof of concept.
Laurentius26...think that was is nick, once attempted it...
Now... that developments which i'm NOT aware now, like KaiserGL, VG and such...

stability...
i guess its how you choose the right files to flash and how you flash it because i did noticed different owner with same device, manilas and ROM but getting different results...

Hi.
Which Rom are using??

i'm using stock ROM 3.29