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Ok first I have read many posts waded through many many long sentences and even googled for other answers. but lets just get straight to the questions...
first the rumor is May11 for 6.5 final. if true what will be the final build number? Others and myself included need to know for all the cooked roms that are out there. I personally love having a ton of roms to try, but I use my phone on a daily bases and I hate to flash and set everything up to to find a newer build of the OS just came out, and everyone cooked new roms.
now for this question, I do not want in any way shape fashion or form to be a better vrs better rom. I simply want a basic no frills latest 6.5 rom without touchflo without other programs, I will pick and choose what I want to put on my phone. QuickGPS and .net 3.5 is ok, but adding all the other stuff that I will never use just takes up space. so I looked and looked for just a basic 6.5 latest build with nothing added and I cannot find it, and no I cannot cook my own do to no experience. So can someone please shed any light on a light rom with the latest 6.5 build and or if the whole may 11th thing is true then should I wait till then for 6.5
thanks for any help, and I'm sure wrapping up some 6.5 questions in one spot will help others get answers to, or even show the fine cooks out there what some others want I love the roms I have tried, but I need my phone so I cannot try all of them and putting out there what I'm looking for may land me help on a rom I missed when perusing the forums.
That this next question can result in my death here on XDA, but I might as well ask it.
So I want to flash my rom, and so far I've read through all the steps and am almost ready, but I'm worried that if I do so, what will I lose on AT&T's network?
Do I have to get medianet back? And myisp? What do I have to do once I've flashed and everything?
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That this next question can result in my death here on XDA, but I might as well ask it.
So I want to flash my rom, and so far I've read through all the steps and am almost ready, but I'm worried that if I do so, what will I lose on AT&T's network?
Do I have to get medianet back? And myisp? What do I have to do once I've flashed and everything?
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The only thing you will lose is all the AT$T bloatware. Most of te custom roms all have auto config and will configure AT$T settings and Media net upon start up . I have a Tilt and never have to reset connection settings after flash, unless you are using some obscure rom from a chef in Siberia.
Josh, shifu,TPC ,Pheonix, Sakajati, Solace, b16b,abusalza ,Athine,ai6908,...etc, all have auto config.
Haha, alright man, thanks for the answer and not killing me.
Ok, new question. I've just literally spent the last 5 hours searching through XDA's forums looking for a mod with a few specifications, but have not found one.
I want Windows Mobile 6.1.
I DO NOT want Manilla 2D (I like landscape mode, and no Manilla 2D landscape hack works good).
I want Omnia/D3D Driver.
I want Opera (any version) w/ Flash lite 3.1.
I want it to be slightly modified with a black screen (a little more touch friendly).
Finally I want a good amount of RAM and Storage. Anything more than what AT&T's TyTN II give's me is fine.
So from any veterans out there, are there any suggestions? I'm not asking for the best ROM since I know that'll never be answered, but I need a ROM with all those specifications. There's no way I'm downgrading to AT&T's sad excuse for a ROM.
Seriously, I'm not tryin to be a lazy-ass, I've spent forever looking. Me being a newb/noob I can't tell if Lite versions or Naked versions are better.
Half the things you're looking for can be added by you. So that cuts it's down to finding a rom without manila. Mostly
...Mostly what?
Oh the suspense.
Alright then, just two specifications.
1. A finger-friendly WMO 6.1 ROM WITHOUT Manilla (I like my landscape).
2. Has the 3D hardware drivers.
There's probably many ROMs like that, but it seems all I can find are M2D or WMO 6.5. Not asking for the best, just what are some ROMs that you know of that has those two specs?
Quick message to the mods. All questions answered here (or in other threads). Thread can be closed/deleted.
Big thanks to denco.
i think you haven't used manila2d...
you should know:
1. ROMs that include manila2d don't FORCE you to use manila2d...you can just disable it and use any other today/home screen plugin that you like
2. the manila2d "landscape bug" affects manila2d ONLY. what i mean to say is that ALL OTHER APPLICATIONS will run perfectly fine in landscape mode with manila2d DISABLED. moreover, ALL OTHER APPLICATIONS will work perfectly fine in landscape mode with manila2d ENABLED, with the caveat that the device will switch to portrait the moment you return to the today/home screen where manila2d runs.
i recommend getting the APRIL 10th, 2009 Hyperdragon ROM by SAKAJATI (www.sakajati.com). it has the omnia d3d drivers, it is VERY stable, it is winmo6.1, it comes with manila2d (which you can simply disable), and it is a medium loaded ROM (i.e. not too many applications preinstalled and not very bare bones either). my signature says i am using it but actually i am not because i am exploring winmo6.5 these days but if i ever go back to winmo6.1, it would be the ROM i mentioned at the beginning of this paragraph.
Alright, one last quick question anybody. I just flashed, everything seems to be working OK. But I have a different radio. If I switch radios to the one the ROM tells me I need, will I still have AT&T's service (last noob question guys, I swear)?
I don't really understand what switching radios does besides making sure cameras/texting/phone calls all work (which is most definitely needed). But will I lose service with AT&T?
So now I've flashed and everything's worked. I guess taking a deepbreath and just going at it's the best way to approach flashing.
Any senior members mind linking me to the M2D Landscape thread? I know there was one with the two M2D Landscape projects, but I've lost it now.
And once again, for real for real this time mods, lock and end this thread.
Hi there... im pleased with myself for having dumped the stock ROM (4 Raws) and then going through the HSPL, which i checked is good!!
ive got my touch to use WiFi and not 3G when using the net at home even tho im on Orange Uk which is supposed to be set to 3g only etc
but i want to got WM 6.5 but am so unsure of which version to use... tbh i can seem to find out which release has what functions, no language stated as i read some where spanish or something lol!
i just see V12, V13 V14 to download etc no real explanations as to the content... Well not for a novice anyways..
so i know it may have been asked before but would someone (or many) please point me in the direction of something that is stable with no known major issues (such as wifi not working or something) and looks nice/fucntions smoothly...
if possible!
thank you so much to all that have helps via the modding topics and all those that reply here!
thanks!
Dave
A lot is down to personal preference
I have Jade Overloaded WM65 OS 5.21806 OEM 2.33.721.1 on my device, try it see how it goes if you don't like it try another.
go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524102
can i simply put a rom over the top of the other then??
i am a real novice but trying to learn been on here hours going through dumping and the hspl... slowly but surely!
there are a few areas still im still in the dark about...
1) i regedit all the time on pcs and lappys etc but how do you on the fone?
2) still a bit vague on how to actually install the roms...
i have jade customRUU, but i read that was for just updating the splash and something else without installing a whole rom? i could be well wrong but im sure i did read that!
just not sure what to do tbh! lol!
thank you so much for your rom suggestion and if you could shed any light on my other qu's i'd appriciate it so much!
thanks again!
Dave
Yes you just flash it over old rom, its like upgrading a pc it wipes all personal stuff etc
to edit registry you need prog like total commander
go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514406 you will find all you need to flash new roms on your phone
My advice for WM6.5 is to wait for the official Microsoft release, that is September 2009 (hopefully). All of WM6.5 ROMs on this site are beta, so they all have bugs. From all of them i'll recommend pdaviet's v14, but it's only my personal opinion.
If you still want to flash, just read this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514406
and knock yourself out!
Good luck!
thanks lex i went with flubs recommendation and while its great there are some things im not too keen on!
i love the wifi side of things and how thats a priority over using the 3g etc
still cant get the weather to function tho... as you say im sure things will improve once the official release comes
having same probs with weather myself.
like lex said all are beta and have some bugs, you just gotta find one your happy with for me personaly its Jade Overloaded WM65 OS 5.21806 OEM 2.33.721.1 the weather function is no prob I will sort it out hopefully but if not I can live with it I will just remove it from home screen LOL
yeah still working out how to do things... being my 1st wm system...
wanna change the order in start menu..
quick link/button to turn wifi on/off
change the homescreen both features and order...
change the background as that is a little disappointing lol
i was looking at the manila 2d is it? but seen so many people having issues with it im not sure i wanna install it!
lol lots of reading searching to do :-( haha!
If you flashed the overloaded rom I suggested then you have touch flo installed you need to go to settings / today items tab and select touchflo
if you wanna change order in start menu you can select and hold an item menu will opo up saying move to top
hi flub!
seems i was running with Windows Default... which i actually liked.. but if i select something else that deselects :-(
i just have touchflow selected and pressed ok... i like the layout gonna take some gettin used to! lol
i went to the weather options removed what was there and selcted add to be presented with a full list of towns etc...
selected the one closest to me.. it updated and is working!!!!
pitty the default wont work tho! will run with the touch system from now then!
thank you so much! your help/advice is very appriciated!
Dave
hey flub...
do you know how to stop the sms's appearing as a conversation?
i want recieved messages in the inbox not conversation files including sent and recieved stuff...
quite rediculous...
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hey flub...
do you know how to stop the sms's appearing as a conversation?
i want recieved messages in the inbox not conversation files including sent and recieved stuff...
quite rediculous...
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you can use a registry editor then navigate to the following registry key:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM\
Under the registry key, create a new DWORD value with value name as SMSInboxThreadingDisabled and set it value data to 1.
or here is a cab file to disable sms conversation http://www.ziddu.com/download.php?uid=a6uanZema7OelOKnZqqhkZSrY6ybl5mo6
Well Flub you truely are a star!!
fully appriciate all the help you've given me!
will most prob go for the cab hehe!
thanks again!
Dave
hi
thanks i was looking for such a cab i used to use advanc configurator to disable my thread view this makes it easier thanks for the same
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you can use a registry editor then navigate to the following registry key:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM\
Under the registry key, create a new DWORD value with value name as SMSInboxThreadingDisabled and set it value data to 1.
or here is a cab file to disable sms conversation http://www.ziddu.com/download.php?uid=a6uanZema7OelOKnZqqhkZSrY6ybl5mo6
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Get yourself an xda-developers account so you can ask questions and become part of the community.
I know when I started looking into all this it just seemed like such a daunting task. There was so much information I just didn't know where to start. I looked and looked for a guide that would explain it all to me in one go but just couldn't find one. I had to read around for days trying to get all the information and tools needed to do it, then I had to experiment with lots of failures and swearing before I got the technique right.
It was only when a friend asked if I'd help him flash his M700 that I started to write a pretty detailed email for him. I then decided I'd post it here for you guys who are struggling because I know a few days ago I would have killed for something like this.
Right, we're gonna do the following:
1. Unlock the phone so you can use any SIM and any ROM even though it's locked to orange.
2. Upgrade the HARD SPL to OliPro 1.20
3. Upgrade the Radio version to 1.56.70.11
4. Upgrade the ROM to WinMo 6.5
5. Install a couple of little extras
First off make sure you have the latest ActiveSync 4.5 installed.
1. OK, first lets unlock it:
Go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293957 and download HTC_Trinity_SIM_CID_Unlock_v1.zip
You just have to plug the phone in so it connects and run the Auto_unlock_v1.bat and follow the prompts.
It'll put your phone into bootloader (the tri colour screen) then flash it with a new radio. It's a really early version of the radio (1.16...) but it doesn't matter cos we'll upgrade that later.
It'll turn itself off when it's done so you need to turn it back on but leave it plugged in.
Keep following the prompts and eventually, it'll ask you on the phone screen if you want to unlock it. Say yes to both.
There we go, now you have an unlocked phone. But the old radio has probably made it so your satnav won't work.
2. Next let's get a new Hard SLP on there so you can flash other ROMs and Radios. This is the bit that took me ages cos finding the right one isn't too easy. I tried a couple but they wouldn't flash the radio then I heard about Olipro 1.20. I could only get hold of the latest version Olipro 1.30 and it took a while to track down an earlier copy. The latest 1.30 version doesn't work when flashing the 1.56 Radio so you need to have the 1.20 version.
Download the Olipro Hard SPL 1.2 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=20 post #196
This is basically just another bit of software that will replace the SPL on your phone so you can flash Radio's and ROMs at your leisure.
Again, make sure the phone is plugged in and connected and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe. It'll stick your phone in bootloader and do a little update that won't take long at all.
3. Now we're ready to flash the Radio. This is basically the drivers and settings of the phone that are there regardless of the actual version of windows you have. So once you flashed this radio (which is the most up to date) you can stick any version of windows mobile on the top and this will still be here at version 1.56.
Download the 1.56.70.11 Radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=5 post #44
Don't worry that it's all in Chinese. It still does the business on the phone and it's all still in english afterwards. You just have to remember which buttons you clicked on and which boxes you ticked from when you used the ROMUpdateUtility before.
WARNING! This will hard reset your phone right back to factory defaults after it's done, You need to ensure you've backed up all your numbers and files etc. You have been warned.
Connect your phone again and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the 1.56 radio folder.
This will take a little bit longer, it took about 5 mins to do the update on mine.
Once it's complete you will need to turn your phone on again. It will first of all display the version of ROM then for a brief moment it will flash the Radio version on the screen, if it says 1.56.70.11 then you've got it right, if not then you'll have to try another HARDSPL tool. Don't worry if you miss it cos you can always check it on the 'Settings | System | Device Information' tab.
4. Ok now this is the bit where the choice is entirly up to you and you really do have to do what everyone says and experiment. There is no 'One ROM to rule them all...' Everyone wants different things from their operating system and you just have to play around until you get one you like. Some people want all the fancy bells and whistles of Manila2D (Touchflo) from 6.1 or the fancy honey cone start menu that comes with 6.5. I personally wanted a fast and stable operating system with has lots of free RAM and not too much rubbish that will slow the phone down. Remember our beloved Trinity's are getting a bit long in the tooth these days and even the most modern handsets (eg Touch HD) have trouble with WinMo 6.5 in some of it's forms. If you just want to get it upgraded then try this one out to start with, then when you realise how easy it is you can flash away til your hearts content.
Download Tomme45i's brilliant 6.5 ROM from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758 You'll struggle to find a faster ROM out there. This is the 27017v2 which is one of the latest releases of WinMo6.5 out htere.
Connect the phone and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the folder. Follow the prompts as usual and after about 5 mins it should have finished.
Turn your phone back on and hey presto! you're up and running with WinMo6.5.
All you have to do is re-sync you phone and all your numbers are back then you're away.
See that wasn't too bad was it. All it took was a few days researching on the XDA forums and endless head scratching when things didn't work. I think most of that time was just because I was unsure exactly what to do and in what order. if I'd just had a guide like this to at least get me through once I'd have found it a lot easier. You should still go away and do the research into any software or ROM/Radio you want to use because the threads contain a lot of useful information.
NEVER post a questions until you've read the whole thread cos chances are it's already been answered.
5. Just a couple of pointers about the ROM.
It was made by a Polish guy so there are a couple of things set to Polish. You will have to change the regional settings in 'Settings | System | Regional Settings' back to the country of your origin.
Also the finger keyboard is set to Polish and he hasn't included any other languages. You'll have to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 to post #30. Download the skin set and copy it to your Windows\Skins folder on your device. This will allow you to select other languages for the keyboard.
It is quite a bare ROM so for that added little bit of BLING I added the S2U2 screen locking application. It basically gives you that little unlocking slider thingy from the iPhone (spit). Go to somewhere like http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Enhancements/S2U2-52386.shtml to download the CAB and install it as normal.
I also hate IE6 on these tiny screens. For a much better browsing experience I recommend Opera from http://www.opera.com/mobile/ You can scroll around the page and double click to zoom in. The tool bars also disappear when your browsing to give you more screen to play with. It works for me, you may not like it.
So that about wraps it up for this guide. I hope some of you total newbies find it a bit less daunting this way and will not be too scared to give other ROMs a try in the future, It's all about what you like and what you want out of your phone at the end of the day.
Please don't forget to donate some money to the chefs (especially Tomme45i) for all thier hard work if you appreciate their product. It doesn't have to be loads even if its only a pound or two. If everyone does it it mounts up. A happy chef is a chef who gets paid and releases lots of fixes/upgrades.
Do I have to take out memory card during this proccess?
Others have said you have to. but I must admit, I forgot at least once when i was flashing a ROM and it didn't seem to make any difference.
Best to take it out I guess as one of the other steps might rely on it not being in there.
Let me know how it goes.
Fantastic!
Only question-do you have P3600 or P3600i?
I have VPA compact GPS (P3600) and it seems to be different ROMs for them?
As far as I know the P3600 is exactly the same as the M700 except it has different casing. I'm currently using a different WinMo6.5 ROM with Manila that was made for a P3600 with no problems.
The P3600i has twice as much RAM memory and does require different ROM's to run.
I did it all that you said and everything is working fine, thanks for great info.
But I dont like installed ROM that you suggested and I want to flash with other one. My question is what I should flash, only ROM or I have to flash radio, olipro...?
The Radio and OliPro are now on your device until you decide to change them and overwrite them with something else. You only need to download a new ROM and install that on your phone as in the last stage of the tutorial.
This ROM by Tomme45i is very quick and very stable but it is quite simple too. Most people want something a bit more flashy. The problem with that is, with our old phones, the more bling you add the slower and more unstable they become.
I have recently put a good ROM on my phone. It is by Narshorn. It has the 23016 build of Windows 6.5 and a nice Manila2D front end (as well as the CHome front end where all the items are stacked top to bottom but I don't like that. I much prefer Manila2D). I think he is about to release a new version of it with some bug fixes in today (09/09/09) so it might be worth waiting for that.
Here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549146
It's well worth reading the thread to get a feel for the limitations the ROM has, but so far I've found it to be very fast and stable.
Don't forget to donate to Narshorn for all his hard work. You only have to give him a few pounds and it all adds up. He had over 200 people download his last build and only 2 donated.
The best thing to do at this point is to head over to the ROM development thread and just READ READ READ.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=359
Choosing a ROM is a very personal thing. Some will be perfect for someone and horrible for his friend. It just depends what you're looking for.
I only wrote this guide to get people started, the rest of the adventure is up to you to discover.
Good luck
I install tryniti 6.1. OS ultimate edition and for now I am satisfied.
Glad to hear it. Stick a link in to that ROM so others can try it out if they want.
Of course for me, I'd always try and find a 6.5 build because it has lots of finger friendly additions that mean you never have to get your stylus out to press any fiddly little menus.
Congrats ! Very GOOD Guide for new starters !
Hi chimpsinties,
I am reading since three days all the Trinity section here at the forum, each days three hours at least. I could say, this guide is quite actual, complete enough, and pointed very well, for one to start flashing an HTC P3600.
As myself.
Well, I am not a total newbie, I have flashed some months ago another device- FSCT830. But concerning Trinity- I have had no idea about until read here.
The device data up to the moment are:
ROM Version: 1.23.405.2
ROM date: 03/11/07
Radio Version: 1.38.00.11
Protocol Version: 32.71.7020.12H
ExtROM Version: 1.23.405.103
I assume the device is HTC P3600, but not HTC P3600i. Right ?
And before start asking details: is there any difference in your guide for G3 and G4 devices? How to determine what is it?
So I would to ask you some questions regarding the procedure and the availability of all original applications and devices in the new ROMs.
Please find below right inbetween your sentences, but IN CAPITAL LETTERS.
I am eager to test a new ROM !
Thank you in advance for reply.
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Get yourself an xda-developers account so you can ask questions and become part of the community.
Right, we're gonna do the following:
1. Unlock the phone so you can use any SIM and any ROM even though it's locked to orange.
2. Upgrade the HARD SPL to OliPro 1.20
3. Upgrade the Radio version to 1.56.70.11
4. Upgrade the ROM to WinMo 6.5
5. Install a couple of little extras
First off make sure you have the latest ActiveSync 4.5 installed.
1. OK, first lets unlock it:
SO, I HAVE THE DEVICE IN FRONT OF ME AND IT HAS BEEN NEVER LOCKED. I CAN USE ANY SIM CARD WITH. DOES THIS MEANS I CAN MISS THIS POINT ?
Go to..........................
There we go, now you have an unlocked phone. But the old radio has probably made it so your satnav won't work.
IF I STAY WITH THE CURRENT RADIO ROM- SHOULD I FLASH SUCCESSFULLY THE DEVICE WITH A WM6.1 ROM? (e.g. Tomme45i or other reccomended)
2. Next let's get a new Hard SLP on there so you can flash other ROMs and Radios. ..............................................
This is basically just another bit of software that will replace the SPL on your phone so you can flash Radio's and ROMs at your leisure.
I PLAN TO MAKE AN SSPL FROM HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632&page=7 . IN THIS CASE I SHOULD MISS THE HARD SPL, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY WITH TEH DEVICE'S ACTUAL FW. CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
3. Now we're ready to flash the Radio. This is basically the drivers and settings of the phone that are there regardless of the actual version of windows you have. So once you flashed this radio (which is the most up to date) you can stick any version of windows mobile on the top and this will still be here at version 1.56.
Download the 1.56.70.11 Radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=5 post #44
Don't worry that it's all in Chinese. It still does the business on the phone and it's all still in english afterwards. You just have to remember which buttons you clicked on and which boxes you ticked from when you used the ROMUpdateUtility before.
IN CASE I CONSIDER TO UPGRADE THE RADIO ROM, BUT I HAVE MISSED POINT NO.1 HOW SHOULD I GUESS WHICH ARE THE BUTTONS TO CLICK IN ROMUpdeteUtility.exe ? IS THERE ANY GUIDE ABOUT, BUT IN ENGLISH?
...................................................................................Connect your phone again and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the 1.56 radio folder.
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4. Ok now this is the bit where the choice is entirly up to you and you really do have to do what everyone says and experiment. ----------------------- I personally wanted a fast and stable operating system with has lots of free RAM and not too much rubbish that will slow the phone down. Remember our beloved Trinity's are getting a bit long in the tooth these days and even the most modern handsets (eg Touch HD) have trouble with WinMo 6.5 in some of it's forms. I AGREE TOTALLY WITH YOU HERE. I PREFER WM6.1 AS IT IS MORE ADAPTED TO THE HARDWARE OF P3600. BTW, ISN'T TOMME45i'S ROM FOR THE NEXT MODEL (3600i) ONLY? MY DEVICE HAS 128MB RAM, SO I ASSUME IS THE MODEL WITHOUT "i" .
Download Tomme45i's brilliant 6.5 ROM from here --------------------------.
AS PER THE METHOD OF FLASHING: YOU RECCOMEND THE ACTIVESYNC ONE.
BUT I HAVE READ A LOT OF COMPLAINTS SAYING THE DEVICE LOOSE THE CONNECTIONS WITH THE PC DURING IT. THEREFORE I AM THINKING OVER THE SDCARD METHOD OF FLASHING. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ABOUT IT?
5. Just a couple of pointers about the ROM.
I also hate IE6 on these tiny screens. For a much better browsing experience I recommend Opera from http://www.opera.com/mobile/ You can scroll around the page and double click to zoom in. The tool bars also disappear when your browsing to give you more screen to play with. It works for me, you may not like it.
ISN'T OPERA CONSUMES MORE RAM THAN IE6 ?
AND LAST QUESTION: WITH ALL THE ROMS YOU HAVE TESTED, CAN YOU SAY WHICH OF THE ORIGINAL APPS AND FUNCTIONS ON THE DEVICE ARE NOT WORKING DEFINITELY WITH MOST OF THEM? E.G. WHAT WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE MAKING A NEW ROM FLASH?
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Wow, that's a big post. I'll try and answer it all as best I can.
To start with, it's very important to know if you have a P3600 or P3600i. The P3600 has 64MB RAM and 128MB Flash, the P3600i has 128MB RAM and 256MB Flash. The upgrade ROMS are designed to work specifically with each version of the phone.
Tomme45i's ROM I link to in the tutorial is definitely for the P3600 (SPV M700) because I had it on my handset for weeks and it worked perfectly.
I don't know what a G3 or G4 device is? Sorry
Your radio version looks very old. I would get that upgraded to the 1.56.70.11
Regarding unlocking. It is probably worth doing the 1st step anyway. Even though you're phone might be SIM unlocked to use any provider, it might still be CID locked, which means it can only use the stock ROM that came with the device. You might need to CID unlock it to allow you to change your ROM.
That way, if you do the first step, you will get used to the ROM Update Utility screens and it won't matter that they are in Chinese for the 3rd step.
I would recommend OliPro's v1.20 of HardSPL. It is virtually impossible to brick you're phone using this and you will really struggle to get the 1.56.70.11 Radio on there if you use anything else. It's the only one I found that would allow me to upgrade the Radio.
As mentioned above, I've tried lots of combinations of software and the steps in the guide were the best way to get it all to work perfectly for me.
Windows Mobile 6.5 is much better for finger friendly use. Windows 6.1 still uses a lot of the old menu styles which you usually need a stylus for. I hate Windows Mobile 6.1 now and would always look for a 6.5 ROM. When I say that these devices are not made for 6.5, I only refer to all the extra really fancy bits of the software like TouchFlo3D, CHome etc etc
Some of the 6.5 ROMs are very fast and very clean (no extra fancy bits) especially Tomme45i's. I would strongly recommend you go for a 6.5 ROM and not a 6.1. Even the 6.5 by Nashorn I recommend in a later post is very fast and looks great with the Manila2D. I use it now instead of the more plain Tomme45i ROM. You also get the gestures support so you can sweep your finger across the screen to move menus (like the iPhone) which is very cool.
Regarding the technique used to flash the ROM, I can't comment. I've never used the SD card technique. I have flashed my phone over 20 times using the USB cable and never had a problem. What could be easier than plugging it in to the PC and double clicking a program.
I like the way with Opera you can scroll around a bigger page by dragging you finger and zoom by double clicking, however I found that Opera does not support online streaming video. I now use IE8 which is included in the Nashorn ROM. It's very nice. You can even choose to browse as a desktop device (so you get all the pages rendered normally) or a mobile device ( so you get the reduced size pages) which is a very nice feature. As you experiment with the software, you find what you like and what you don't like. It's all personal choice, what is good for me won't be good for everyone. It's just a guide after all
Of all the ROMs I've tested I've never found any of the basic things that come with Windows Mobile missing. They all usually have Office, Windows messenger, Media player etc etc. I've never found myself having to sacrifice anything to run a new ROM, you usually just find extra things you didn't know you needed
I would say, a finger keyboard is very important, the combination of a 6.5 ROM and finger keyboard means you never have to get your stylus out any more. Both the ROM's I recommend come with a Finger Keyboard included.
It's just a case of finding Cabs for the things you want extra, S2U2, GAlarm, TomTom etc.
I hope I've been able to answer all your questions. Most of what you're asking is just a question of what you like. This is why they always say, 'Just try things until you find what you like'. I wrote this guide so that people who didn't really know what they were doing could get a feel for it and then experiment on their own.
Best of luck, and don't forget to donate to a chef if you like his cooking. That way they will continue to cook for us on this old hardware.
Nice thread - very informative. When I think of the fun and games I had when I first found XDA Developers and downloaded what I needed to unlock my Orange SPV M700 (had several screens open and several downloads on the go)
I have the Narshorn WM6.5 build with Manilla 2D and it has given my phone a whole new lease of life (I was getting bored of WM6 and was looking to buy a new WM6.5 device)
Stuck in Tri-Color screen
Hi,
Thanks for composing all the steps here in an easy to follow manner.
My phone is in super CID mode.
I'm running Vista ultimate.
Whenever I try any of the steps you've specified, they phone goes to the boot loader and remains in tri-color mode. The connection with vista mobile device center is cut off, but the phone itself is not stuck. If you disconnect the USB it says "serial" and if you connect it, it goes back to "usb".
Nothing more happens.
I tried SD flashing as well (renamed the file as specified), but it doesn't do anything. I can start the boot loader, but it doesn't do anything.
I've searched the forums for the error 260, but found nothing useful for flashing with vista.
I also tried unchecking the "allow USB connections" in the mobile device center, but then the device just doesn't connect.
What step am I missing?
Thanks.
Hmmmm
Unfortunately I don't use Vista so I haven't researched any problems associated with it. I know people suggest downgrading the USB drivers or if possible using an XP machine to do the flashing. There is no reason why the SD card technique shouldn't work although I haven't tried it myself.
It might be worth posting on the main board with your problems. I wrote this guide with nothing more than my own experiences in mind and unfortunately haven't had a vast amount of experience at this myself. Maybe I was just lucky to have got it right first time.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help and I hope you get it sorted soon. It's well worth persisting because getting WM6.5 on the old Trinity will transform it and give your years (or at least months) more life out of it. Unitl you get bored and want more power to play with all the cool new features like Touchflo 3D etc
Thanks
Thanks anyway. I'll start my quest for an XP machine.
Great ! It works !
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Wow, that's a big post. I'll try and answer it all as best I can.
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Great ! It works !
I decided to follow exactly all your advices. And now I have a pretty good WM6.5 on this HTC 3600.
I am missing now the Video call and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
I can also report the following navi progs are working just with clicking on the respective .exe on the memory card available with the old, original WM5.0:
Garmin XT5.020, TT7.915, MN7.4.3; iGo8.32, Navitel 3.2.6.
AxxlPPC said:
and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
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The FingerKeyboard is actually cooked into the ROM, but is missing the extra languages to save on space. You need to add the ones you want separately.
As I said in the first post:
Chimpsinties said:
You'll have to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=545758&page=3 to post #30. Download the skin set and copy it to your Windows\Skins folder on your device. This will allow you to select other languages for the keyboard.
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This means you will have access to all the other languages for the finger keyboard. The FingerKeyboard is actually cooked into the ROM, but is missing the extra languages to save on space. You need to add the ones you want separately.
AxxlPPC said:
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
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Don't you have to enable the video calling in advanced options? or maybe download a small fix .cab file that will enable it? I can't remember right now. I've only ever used video calling once and that was just to see what it was like.
I'm glad yo got it to work anyway
Now you can try other ROMs and see which one you like most. I'm still loving nashorns rom with Manila2D but I think he's been having problems with it recently.
It can be tempting to stick with one ROM just because you have got it working. Soon you'll be so good at reflashing it'll only take you about an hour to do it and get all your programs and settings back exactly how they were.
How?
AxxlPPC said:
Great ! It works !
I decided to follow exactly all your advices. And now I have a pretty good WM6.5 on this HTC 3600.
I am missing now the Video call and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
I can also report the following navi progs are working just with clicking on the respective .exe on the memory card available with the old, original WM5.0:
Garmin XT5.020, TT7.915, MN7.4.3; iGo8.32, Navitel 3.2.6.
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Question, did you do this in Vista?
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orenroot said:
Question, did you do this in Vista?
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No, on an XP netbook (LenovoS10e).
there were several reports in the thread Vista has to be updated with some drivers before being capable to do the flash on Trinity.
I want to correct myself in a point:
MN7.43 starts, but crashes under WM6.5 I am still trying to find a workaround about that.
I've made all the changes to my Orange Spv M700 according to Your great guide!
It looks great!
Can anyone tell me which IGO8 runs on this ROM?
How can I change the default ringtone please? It gives me three choices without being able to browse to other ringtones....
I've got about 600 contacts I don't want to change them one by one....
Thank You!
Hi.,
I've Recently Bought The HTC Pure And I Have A Couple Of General Questions., The Pure Being My Firts WM Device. Sorry If The Questions Are More Than Simple.
1; How Do I Perform A Back-Up? (*So I Can Go Back To All Settings That Came From Att.,I Dnt Wanna Mess It Up)
2;What Are The Differences In ROMs?
3; I Know My ROM Version; But How Can I Tell If Its Stock?
4;I've Seen Many Forums, That Talk About Manila Versions; How Do I Know Which One I Have?
5; I'd Like To Customize My Phone; But I've Seen There Are A Lot Of Programs To Be Downloaded & I Wanted To Know If There Was Any Risk Involved In Doing So.
I Think That's It For Now; Im Sorry If These Questions Have Been Asked Before., Thanks In Advance.
→FYI;; Im Not Using The TouchFlo2D Interface; Im Using Windows Default; The ROM Version Is: 2.31.502.4.,
WM 6.5 Proffessional.
Anything Else I Need To Know About The Specs Of My Pure Just Let Me Know, Thanks.
I'm gonna point you to the link in my sig, "Inman's Start to Finish" which is a different forum, but it breaks things down to a pretty basic level.
To briefly respond to your questions;
1. You can back up PIM Data (Contacts, Calendar, E-mails and Texts) with M$ MyPhone. For full system backups you need a backup program such as SPB Backup or Sprite.
2. ROMs vary by build#, WM Version and chef, 21XXX ROMS have the start menu button on the top left, 23XXX ROMs have the bottom left start menu button. To ask which ROM is best is like going to the bar and asking what beer is the best, so don't ask.
3. Go to bootlaoder mode (tri-colored screen) by soft restting your phone with your stylus while holding the Volume Down button. Do another SR to get back to Windows. If your SPL version has "Olinex" as a suffix, you're probably on a custom ROM.
If you have all of the AT$T bloatware, you're on stock ROM, also looking at your device info\software in settings should tell you.
4. Manila is TF3D, if you have a programs tab - you're on 2.1, if you have programs icons on your home screen - you're on 2.5. the build number can also be found in device info.
5. Generally, if its a theme or something that interfaces with your home screen, you install to device, games and other apps can be installed to SD Card. If you backup your data, there is no risk, however you have to read about HSPL and flashing ROMs before attempting that, or you could potentially brick your phone.
Again, take some time to read the my guides in the link in my sig and you'll understand alot more.
Peace!