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Hi all, I have had this bug in varying flavours with both the Wizard and now the Kaiser.
If I make a call via Bluetooth (certain devices only e.g. JVC in car stereo), after the call, all audio is lost on the device when using the speaker, e.g. no ringtones, no TomTom voice guidance. (Oddly the touchtone sounds on the phone dialler continue to work.)
Making another call via Bluetooth works fine and all audio is heard, but not if calling via the earpiece of the phone - all phone audio is still muted. A reboot is required. (Even after a reboot, sometimes all audio is muted, and 2 or 3 reboots are required.)
It is like Bluetooth is 'stealing' the audio from the phone's speaker (which is should), but not giving it back at the end, however turning off Bluetooth doesn't return it.
It happens with WM6.x on the TyTN II.
If you can fix it either via a workaround (reboot the audio service after every call?) or a direct fix (HTC are useless and have not emailed me back), I will pledge you $100 via PayPal. I am sure others will join me in pledging an amount also.
Yes. I've seen the same thing with the last stock Tilt ROM, too.
Same here. But is not happening very often.
The other issue for me is if I have A2DP enable and listening to music, then making a phone call will drop the A2DP connection and I have to reconnect A2DP again. It happens to both my JVC car unit and Sony HBH DS220.
I tried that w/ Dutty's WM6.0 and the latest 6.1 rom
I have the same issue, with bluetooth disconnects.
Just staying on-topic here (you can solve A2DP issues with A2DPToggle a great free app), has anyone found a solution to this Bluetooth loss of speaker audio issue, or a workaround to avoid it happening?
Rebooting the phone after every Bluetooth phone call is hardly what I consider a high-end smartphone to require.
Same here
What Radio's are you guys running? (Ignore my signature for the moment, been phoneless and away from here for a while and just getting back up to date )
Haz
My current radio is 1.64.08.21.
I have also tried 1.64.06.04.
Could we be closer to finding the problem? Does the Radio contain the Bluetooth stack?
Here are all available Radios:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
I'm going to try 1.58.26.20 now. I suggest others try the other 1.5x variants and report back if any of them solve the bug.
Update: I am now offering $100 to anyone who can fix this - see 1st thread.
I have used Windows Mobile since the first ever SPV phone. This one issue is making me look seriously at abandoning that loyalty and getting a Blackberry. If I can fix this for $100 I could be tempted to stay however.
Have you tried BT Audio Toggle ? (found at http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/sams...luetooth-headset.html?perpage=20&pagenumber=1)
Maybe if this helps with your problem then a mortscript could be written to automatically run the utility after a phone call.
What bluetooth headset do you have? Have you tried other headsets or just the one you have? What version of 6.1 are you using?
Thanks, I'll give the audio toggle a go. Might need some help with Mortscript though
I am using the JVC KD-BT1 car stereo with Bluetooth in-car kit. However I can also lose audio on a clean boot even when not in the car, although that is very rare. When using it with the car stereo, it happens after almost every call.
I am running Sleuth's WM6.1 but the other people in this thread are using a variety of BT devices, ROMs, and HTC models.
Can anyone help with how to create a MortScript to run BTAudioOff.exe after each phone call?
Flash a NIKI radio. I had a similar issue with my JVC in-dash CD player and I just got all the radios and tried them all. All the NIKI radios seem to work a lot of the time, while some work and others don't.
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Flash a NIKI radio. I had a similar issue with my JVC in-dash CD player and I just got all the radios and tried them all. All the NIKI radios seem to work a lot of the time, while some work and others don't.
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Thanks, I'll try that too.
Rumball said:
Have you tried BT Audio Toggle ? (found at http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/sams...luetooth-headset.html?perpage=20&pagenumber=1)
Maybe if this helps with your problem then a mortscript could be written to automatically run the utility after a phone call.
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Okay I tried this and before I even got in the car, chose to turn Bluetooth Audio off using the toggle. Since then I cannot recreate the issue! I am not having to toggle after every call, I only did it once and the problem won't come back!
Fingers crossed...
NP. 1 more thing. What do you mean all audio is lost? Do you mean that the auido goes through the bt device? Or just that there is no audio coming from either at all. If that's the case, then all you might have to do is go to Comm Manager>Settings>Bluetooth>JVC (or whatever you named it) and uncheck the Stereo sound and viola it should work unless you are not using A2DP >.> . I think it's either directing all sound to your bt device or trying to send sound to it but failing.
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NP. 1 more thing. What do you mean all audio is lost? Do you mean that the auido goes through the bt device? Or just that there is no audio coming from either at all. If that's the case, then all you might have to do is go to Comm Manager>Settings>Bluetooth>JVC (or whatever you named it) and uncheck the Stereo sound and viola it should work unless you are not using A2DP >.> . I think it's either directing all sound to your bt device or trying to send sound to it but failing.
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The issue is there is no audio coming from either the phone or the Bluetooth device. I hear the Bluetooth device disconnect, and its display shows that it has also.
I see no 'Stereo' option to untick for the JVC in its Bluetooth settings, only Hands-free and Wireless Stereo (already unticked).
No progress
Okay, this is seriously getting me down now It all sounded so promising. I have tried the following:
Flashed Niki Radio 1.58.21.23
Tried using Bluetooth Toggle - it seemed to work once when I turned BT off before connecting, but after a reboot the problem is back
Tried a HFP extension PM'd to me (thanks anyway - didn't help)
Made sure Bluetooth Stereo is unticked in the JVC's settings on the phone
I am not sure if the problem is worse when taking a call as TomTom is running.
Here is an interesting development which might help someone narrow down the cause:
I make a few calls, and as always audio is lost, even for phone calls sometimes.
Touchtones on the keypad are the only sound that the phone continues to emit itself. Everything else (TomTom, ringtones, etc.) is dead.
I then go into the JVC's A2DP mode and 'Connect'. The icon appears on the mobile's title bar, and I can hear phone audio through the car stereo.
I 'Disconnect' and the phone's audio is still lost.
What this tells us is that the phone is putting out sound, just not through the speaker.
If someone can write something that will reset the speaker driver after a call, my offer for $100 still stands.
Just to update this, the issue still exists with a clean install of HTC's new 2-May-08 WM6.1 ROM from their website. To***rs!
CJSnet,
Since we got the similar setup w/ exact the same issue (Att Tilt w/ JVC BT-1), I think the problem is basically Kaiser does not switch back to A2DP profile properly after headset profile from phone call. The same issue happens to my Sony HBH DS-220 stereo headset too.
I tried my Eten M600 w/ JVC BT-1 and does not see this problem
Hi there. I was wondering if anyone could help me with an issue I am having after my 1.5 update (non-rooted). After my update I played around with it for a bit and love it but I went to play with my bluetooth and I can't listen to music through the headset like it said it was suppose to do. I get a ringing noise when someone calls but no music thru it. Did I do something wrong with the manual update or something? If someone could help me I would truly appreciate it.
Also I was curious if its possible if I can root my phone after the update or is it not an option anymore? I been thinking bout it now and is loving the cool themes you can get.
Thank you so much for your time
i to have this problem from time to time
i manage to fix the problem temporary by going to the phone's settings > Wireless controls > Bluetooth settings > klick and hold the bluetooth device till a popup comes > Options > then toggle media off and on
then my headset works out fine
ps: i just repaired my headset as a test, witch i dint do after the update and it seems to work after turning off bluetooth and the device
ill give u an update if it works after a couple of times
Thanks for responding. I have tried for 2 days now to try to get it to work and I haven't gotten it to work yet. I kept my music running while trying to disconnect and reconnect the headset (motorola H690) and nothing and then earlier I got a phone call while I was listening to my music off my phone and I got a phone call and I answered it via bluetooth and when I got off the phone I could hear the music for a couple seconds and it shut off and started playing on the phone speaker. I don't know what the deal is.
i to still have that problem
i can start and stop the media from my bluetooth device but it will play on my phone
still when i toggle media off and on in the bluetooth device options it fixes it sometimes for 3 connects sometimes till the next session
what happens if u toggle media off and on with ure G1?
Yeah it still hasn't worked for me and I've done the same things you havei don't know what the deal is.
im not sure if this is the same problem but my g1 is rooted & i have it paired with my bluetooth in my car & when the phone rings... it rings through the car speakers but when i answer the call all sound comes thru the phone... same when i make a calll.. instead of it working thru the car speakers & mic it only wrks thru the g1 itself..
Exactly the same issue as i3lazen
My phone is totally standard running 1.5, just about to go and sell the phone and go back to my HTC Kaiser as it works with no issue.
I can stream music to my BT car stereo no problem but if I can't send and recieve calls then I'm stuffed.
If anyone has any advice, it would be appreciated as I'd love to keep my G1
Hey guys,
try the fix here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4177831&postcount=329
Thanks for the link but is that not just for improving sound quality and not a BT fix?
i3lazen said:
im not sure if this is the same problem but my g1 is rooted & i have it paired with my bluetooth in my car & when the phone rings... it rings through the car speakers but when i answer the call all sound comes thru the phone... same when i make a calll.. instead of it working thru the car speakers & mic it only wrks thru the g1 itself..
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I had this issue with my rooted phone, and then I updated the radio to 2.22.19.26I and this fixed it. Not sure if this is related to the non root phones but it may be related to it if the radio wasn't updated in the upgrade to 1.5
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I updated the radio to 2.22.19.26I and this fixed it.
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I've got that radio on my non rooted phone but still have the BT issue
Hi Guys,
i have this problem for a long time and didn't find anything about it in web or in xda forums.
I have a HTC Dream + HBH-IS 800 Sony Ericsson Headset.
When i listen to music via A2DP the connection is not very stable...
the connection interrupts very often for about 2 or 3 seconds, then works for about 3 seconds.
This only happens when i am outside, not in buildings. I this the reason is because of interferences. The connection gets better when i move the G1 into a specific orientation (upper side up) and don't turn my head to the right
On my old Windows mobile phone i played around with bitpool (=ratio between quality and connection stability by constant bitrate) settings... is there a possibility to get the connection more stable, when playing around with this setting?!
How can this setting be changed on android?
Further information:
-ROM Cyanogen 4.2.5 but same problem on stock ROM
-HTC Dream has been replaced one by a new device -> same problem
-Headset was never exchanged, but worked perfectly on my old Touch Pro with WM 6.1
Thanks for your help
There is a known issue on the Bluetooth stack and is suppose to be fixed in the Elclair 2.0 fix, the temporary work around is to first pair and connect then disconnect and reconnect it again i'm having to do that several times a day when i use my RocketFish bluetooth stereo headset. Hope that helps
thanks for this workaround, will try it tomorrow and will post if it works for me too
hmm, didnt really work for me... no change after pairing disconnecting and connecting again.
i wonder why this only happens outside, not in buildings... another frequencys which interferences maybe?!
Be sure to disable wifi.
Not trying to hi-jack your thread. If you want me to open another i will. However this is a BT question as well.
my G1 is set to connect to my stereo in my car. Pioneer BT head unit. I find that i have to manually tell it to connect every time i get in the car. When i had a blackberry before it would just connect every time on its own without me doing anything once i made the initial connection.
Any ideas?
thanks.
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There is a known issue on the Bluetooth stack and is suppose to be fixed in the Elclair 2.0 fix, the temporary work around is to first pair and connect then disconnect and reconnect it again i'm having to do that several times a day when i use my RocketFish bluetooth stereo headset. Hope that helps
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Worked on Dell Streak A1.6
I have Dell BH200 headset as well, and I have the same exact problem its like the audio stutters but when I first connect it its more stutter than music so you can barely even understand the music until after 30secs when it starts to normal out.
ATM im runnning Stock 1.6 for G1, im going to try Cyanogenmod 6.0 tomorrow and see if anything changes.
but everyday I go back and forth with my laptop and phone since my headphones run for atleast 3-4 days.
wow, finally someone having the same problem.
and even the same description of the connection issues.
I recently bought a orange SanFran and, as the device is fairly cheap, a nokia bh-504 along with it.
The connection isnt stable even when I put it in my breast pocket.
As soon as I move my head to the right, the streaming stops. Completely.
I can easily stop the music when holding my hand in front of the right earpiece.
so i will try the disconnect / connect again "workaround", but I don't think that will help.
I paired the same headset with my gf's netbook and I could walk through the whole apartment and the signal was stable even through up to 4 walls.
so no one here knows how to tweak BT settings in android?
Okay, so lots of people have problems with their bluetooth. I am too. I have a JVC KW-XR810 car stereo and the bluetooth keeps shutting down on one or the other. My questions are:
Does anyone else have this stereo and problem? If so, whats the situation?
Is there a ROM that works flawlessly (or close to) with the bluetooth?
Its odd though, that my headset works perfectly and I didn't have many problems with another stereo I've used. Makes me wonder if its the stereo or the phone. Still, many others have bluetooth problems with this phone...
Thanks for any responses.
Stock Froyo
Rooted
One click lag fix
My last 3 phones (including this one) have all worked flawlessly with my Sony MEX-BT3700 head unit. Phone calls, BT dialing, streaming music, all work perfectly.
Yep, same here - AT&T replaced my Captivate under warranty about 2 or 3 weeks ago due to the random shut-down issue. Took the new one home, installed Froyo, and rooted it. Everything works well, except lately I've been getting frequent bluetooth disconnects from my car stereo (Pioneer AVIC-X920BT).
The usual pattern seems to be it's good for about one call, and then shortly after ending that call, I notice that they are no longer connected. I usually turn off BT on the phone (seems to take a while to terminate) and then turn it back on, but it will usually only be good for a single call. It's been frustrating, and I'm leaning toward the problem being on the phone side, since that's where there have been recent changes.
Must be a problem with Stock Froyo. Glad I'm not using it.
I've had this issue with certain roms I was running. I have a Kenwood KDC-X993. So far on CM7 it stayed connected.
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i have the same (or similar) problem with my OEM headunit on a VW Golf. BT randomly disconnects but my music (pandora) still plays through the BT stereo, unless I stop it. Then its completely disconnected and I'll have to reconnect the phone to the car.
annoying but I just deal with it.
I'm running Paragon 6 and have a Dual head unit. I haven't had any disconnect issues, my problem is the crappy Pandora app.
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Yep, same here - AT&T replaced my Captivate under warranty about 2 or 3 weeks ago due to the random shut-down issue. Took the new one home, installed Froyo, and rooted it. Everything works well, except lately I've been getting frequent bluetooth disconnects from my car stereo (Pioneer AVIC-X920BT).
The usual pattern seems to be it's good for about one call, and then shortly after ending that call, I notice that they are no longer connected. I usually turn off BT on the phone (seems to take a while to terminate) and then turn it back on, but it will usually only be good for a single call. It's been frustrating, and I'm leaning toward the problem being on the phone side, since that's where there have been recent changes.
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Same here, I have a Parrot mki system in my car, but I found a workaround that I hope works for you too:
Unpair with the device, and when you re-pair it, when it asks you to synchronize contacts, do not let it. It will bug you every time it connects, but just ignore the requests.
I haven't had a single disconnect since doing this weeks ago.
I've read about the contacts request from other users but it doesn't happen with mine. Another thing, when I lose the connection and I turn off bt one the phone out shuts off. Completely. Pushing the power button does nothing. Holding the volume up and power buttons together for a few seconds seems to restart it but theres no animation. Just the lock screen, media scanner, etc. Maybe its restarting on its own and the button pushing has nothing to do with it. Also, I listened to my bt headset for hours last night with no probs at alI. Idk. Is bt different for head units? I thought it all used the same protocals.
So it seems that its not my head unit, but the phone. Are there any good solutions for us?
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My head unit never asks to download contacts. Could it be that some do because they store that info in order to identify and announce incoming calls? That would mean there's more going on than just a simple BT connection.
Yeah. One post I read said something about it using a data connection the hu for contacts. I have no idea what he was talking about though.
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My head unit have the ability to sync contacts. When I first paired it, the phone asks me for permission and there's a check box to always allow.
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My head unit have the ability to sync contacts. When I first paired it, the phone asks me for permission and there's a check box to always allow.
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The only purpose I can see for this is if the head unit has an integrated nav system. That would allow you to bring up a contact as a nav target independent of the phone.
Okay, gettinging back to my original questions. So far we've established that this is endemic to the captivate, mostly. There have been two replies saying that cm7 and paragon 6 have stable bt connections with head units. I read in another post that axura works as well. This is so frustrating that I'm just about willng to learn how to flash this thing.
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Okay, gettinging back to my original questions. So far we've established that this is endemic to the captivate, mostly.
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We have? My first post says I have zero issues with this on my head unit with my phone on Eclair, Froyo and now Andromeda. If it is a phone issue mine is not suffering from it. Sounds more like it has something to do with head units that store contact data. Mine apparently doesn't.
Hmmm.
Yet in your second post you posited that it must be a Froyo issue.
Regardless of whether it is the phone or OS, a lot of Captivate owners seem to have bt issues of one kind or another with various devices. Maybe this is just a bt issue in general that everyone deals with (not just Captivate owners) and I'm just being sensitive because I haven't had much bt exposure.
Any help is appreciated here. I'm just looking for suggestions on what to do short of buying a new phone or head unit. It would be great if other users experiencing this problem would benefit from the discussion as well.
So far it appears that flashing a different ROM may be a solution but which one? Is there any way to change only the bt stack?
Sorry if that sounded short, but I'm REALLY frustrated with this.
My hu will store contacts as most do these days, but it doesn't ask for them. I don't think the problem is related to the contacts. I guess its just a random incompatibility thing.
I said it "might" be a problem with stock Froyo. I didn't see it the 3 days I was running it and my current ROM is Froyo-based and working without issue. The only other variable I can see is that others posting problems have reported having to deny access to contacts, something my head unit never asks for, in order to get it to work. That would appear to indicate the difference is in the head units and not the phones, but unless I could connect to one of these other head units to verify, I'm only guessing. Sorry.
i notice that if I toggle the bluetooth on my phone right before connecting it to my car, it works flawlessly
Installed a Kenwood X994 and had all kinds of issues with BT. Worked for awhile but would never auto connect. Only vehicle and area where I had BT issues. I realized it was due to the downloading of contacts at every connect. sometimes it would download than immediately disconnect. frustrating. Was on serendipity, Tried a native Cappy ROM, Cognition and now Phoenix..
The unit has the Parrot system in it so it should be ok. Finally decided to update the Firmware on the HU. So far so good. I like the contact download so I don't need to use the phone at all to make a call. Receiving calls is no problem.
Will test further tomorrow.
BTW I have a BT Garmin mounted in the truck and used it before getting the head unit. no problems connecting. The only issue with that was a delay between pressing the call button and the call being made. Hanging up was an issue as well.
Hi,
I've bought a "Jabra Stealth" headset and I'm unable to launch Google Now on my Nexus 6 (Android stock 5.0.1, FrancoKernel r8) with the dedicated button although it's a built-in feature of the headset. I assume that this is an issue of compatibility with Android 5.0. Jabra has answered me that I didn't configure vocal commands well but that's false. Has someone encountered the same problem and has a solution for it?
Thanks
xof9999 said:
Hi,
I've bought a "Jabra Stealth" headset and I'm unable to launch Google Now on my Nexus 6 (Android stock 5.0.1, FrancoKernel r8) with the dedicated button although it's a built-in feature of the headset. I assume that this is an issue of compatibility with Android 5.0. Jabra has answered me that I didn't configure vocal commands well but that's false. Has someone encountered the same problem and has a solution for it?
Thanks
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I have a similar issue. I use a Plantronics Voyager Legend. A couple of issues:
1) press and hold of the action button will bring up "voice dialer" instead of "google now". I dont know if you've ever tried to use voice dialer, but i think its more or less deprecated since the nexus 1 was the new kid on the block.
There is an app for bluetooth on the app store that lets you choose what to launch with that button. however, it didnt work that well for me. lots of lag and it blended together with other bluetooth related issues.
2) Bluetooth never seems to "turn off". I have a smart sensor enabled headset. IE the phone should know if i have the headset on or not, and pipe phone calls and notifications and ringtones to the speaker if i dont have it on and to the headset if i do. instead, the phone constantly pipes EVERYTHING to the bluetooth headset. no fix yet.
3) phone connection to my car's bluetooth makes my audiobook start playing. I have no idea why. it is not a setting in the audiobook app. Seems that the fix is to disable streaming media over bluetooth (contacts/messages only)
From what ive witnessed with issues regarding audio, screen brightness, bluetooth, this is yet another half-baked google product with little to no attempt at a proper follow through. just a crap device rushed to market with tons of potential and a complete crap OS and barely any thought or usability effort put into anything except the home screen.
I also have the N6 with the P Legend. I am having issues where the caller can barely hear me. Do you know if you have this issue at all?
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I have a similar issue. I use a Plantronics Voyager Legend. A couple of issues:
1) press and hold of the action button will bring up "voice dialer" instead of "google now". I dont know if you've ever tried to use voice dialer, but i think its more or less deprecated since the nexus 1 was the new kid on the block.
There is an app for bluetooth on the app store that lets you choose what to launch with that button. however, it didnt work that well for me. lots of lag and it blended together with other bluetooth related issues.
2) Bluetooth never seems to "turn off". I have a smart sensor enabled headset. IE the phone should know if i have the headset on or not, and pipe phone calls and notifications and ringtones to the speaker if i dont have it on and to the headset if i do. instead, the phone constantly pipes EVERYTHING to the bluetooth headset. no fix yet.
3) phone connection to my car's bluetooth makes my audiobook start playing. I have no idea why. it is not a setting in the audiobook app. Seems that the fix is to disable streaming media over bluetooth (contacts/messages only)
From what ive witnessed with issues regarding audio, screen brightness, bluetooth, this is yet another half-baked google product with little to no attempt at a proper follow through. just a crap device rushed to market with tons of potential and a complete crap OS and barely any thought or usability effort put into anything except the home screen.
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When the caller can barely hear you, check your phone. Sometimes, even though my headset is on, the phone doesn't care and attempts to use the phones speaker or mic.
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When the caller can barely hear you, check your phone. Sometimes, even though my headset is on, the phone doesn't care and attempts to use the phones speaker or mic.
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That's my current issue...
I can answer the calls with either my truck or ear piece, but both will randomly not have audio. The phone says it's connected BT, but I have to switch the source to speaker or handset and then click back over to BT. The whole time while I'm begging the person on the other end not to hang up and to hold on a second. Not bad when I'm at my desk with earpiece....let's just say it's a bit more nerve-racking on the highway.
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That's my current issue...
I can answer the calls with either my truck or ear piece, but both will randomly not have audio. The phone says it's connected BT, but I have to switch the source to speaker or handset and then click back over to BT. The whole time while I'm begging the person on the other end not to hang up and to hold on a second. Not bad when I'm at my desk with earpiece....let's just say it's a bit more nerve-racking on the highway.
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Same here. Also have a problem where, when on a call, an incoming call will kill bluetooth. This makes it unusable in my car as it becomes a real safety issue. I have to turn off BT and use the speakerphone which luckily is good enough for the job. Even switching the source and switching back doesn't always work for me.
I regret not sending the phone back for this problem. I'm waiting on v5.1 this month as rumored, hoping that will solve the problem. May just go back to my Lumina 925.
Has anyone tried going into Google settings app -> Search & Now -> Voice and turn on Bluetooth Headset (records audion through bluetooth headset if available).
I have Nexus 5 and Jabra Stealth and I had the same problem. I could solve it thanks to these indications: hackerspace.kinja.com/reassign-your-bluetooth-phone-button-to-open-google-n-1507391132
Same issue with calls not having audio through the car Bluetooth unless I switch to speaker/handset then back. I guess Marshmellow really messed up Bluetooth on a lot of people's phones not just us. Tried different rooms(AOSP, CM, stock) no help even tried updating the radio which helped Bluetooth crashing completely and requiring a restart but the phone issues remain.