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I've seen discussions here about running a voip client on the tilt, but I've not yet found exactly what kind of service provider is needed for this.
I have packet8 voip service at home. Can I configure a tilt client to make/receive calls over that service? If so, what info do I need from packet 8 to do so?
Or, I have a gizmo account that my grandcentral forwards to. Gizmo only seems to have a java based client for the phone, which isn't working very well for me.
Basically what I'm wanting is calls from my grand central number to get to my tilt via wifi, since I work underground where cell signal isn't available, but we have solid wifi coverage. I'm not worried about being able to make calls.
What's the best way to accomplish this, and can I do it without having to pay for another provider?
VOIP, Voice Over I P, requires an internet connection. As far as I know you don't need a provider. You need an internet connection and a client. Skype is pretty popular but there are others. Check out the SEARCH link in my signature, below. Search for Skype, VOIP, and similar terms and you will get the answer to your question.
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VOIP, Voice Over I P, requires an internet connection. As far as I know you don't need a provider. You need an internet connection and a client. Skype is pretty popular but there are others. Check out the SEARCH link in my signature, below. Search for Skype, VOIP, and similar terms and you will get the answer to your question.
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How could you not have a provider? Something has to transfer calls from the POTS network where the call originates to VOIP. Last I knew, skype charged for 'skype-in' to have a phone number associated with your skype account for calls to come in to.
I have already searched for and read VOIP related posts, as I indicated in the OP. None that I found addressed configuration of packet8 service, which is what I'm ideally looking for. Hopefully someone else will be able to help answer the question, rather than suggesting something I've already tried without success already.
it bugz me nuts when someone who doesnt know what theyre talkin about replies w/nonsense assuming that youre just a little dumber than them..
obviously, these ppl just dont understand what the need is And that they arent qualified to reply...
many times this makes a thread grow beyond the point of management. the mods are hard pressed to clean up irrelevant posts--- such as this..
thankfully, this thread wont reach those numbers..
i aint hating, im just saying :: you all just spit out the words "search" and often a thread you spout off is hundreds of posts long and most are irrelevant--
impossible for someone who has a life to wade all the way thru..
thanx for the space-- feel freee to delete this post.
BTW, i would like to know how you solve it.. please post when you find it
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BTW, i would like to know how you solve it.. please post when you find it
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That I will!
gai-jin said:
I've seen discussions here about running a voip client on the tilt, but I've not yet found exactly what kind of service provider is needed for this.
I have packet8 voip service at home. Can I configure a tilt client to make/receive calls over that service? If so, what info do I need from packet 8 to do so?
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Packet8 is a non-standard VOIP provider. I believe you will need to download, install, and use their client. And that'll cost you over and above your existing service. Worse, I don't think it will get you what you want. Appears that you can make calls, but I'm not sure if you can receive them. I'm not a Packet8 user so I'm not certain of that. But since you are, I'd recommend contacting them to find out what's possible with their service using a mobile device.
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Or, I have a gizmo account that my grandcentral forwards to. Gizmo only seems to have a java based client for the phone, which isn't working very well for me.
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The Gizmo5 mobile client is Java based. It will run like crap if it all on your device. More bad news, it's primarily an IM app and it does not do pure VoIP.
gai-jin said:
Basically what I'm wanting is calls from my grand central number to get to my tilt via wifi, since I work underground where cell signal isn't available, but we have solid wifi coverage. I'm not worried about being able to make calls.
What's the best way to accomplish this, and can I do it without having to pay for another provider?
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I use Voipstunt, and I'm able to make and receive calls on my device. However you do have to pay for the service. And typically it will cost a little more if you want a dedicated number so you can receive POTS calls. In many (most) cases calls between SIP devices / VOIP software are free. Skype is probably the most common example of this.
I'm sure you're busy, as we all are, but as you have time you really should peruse this INCREDIBLY long but educational thread on VOIP. In a nutshell here's what's needed to do get what you're asking about. You will need a VOIP provider (probably NOT Packet8, I'm afraid), a soft phone application for Windows Mobile (I like SJPhone or X-Lite), and if you want to receive from a POTS line you will also need an incoming number from your VOIP provider (usually called a VOIP-In number). Hope this helps you a little. Good luck!
VOIP or not to VOIP
I use FRING http://www.fring.com/ It also handles other thinkgs such as Skype. I had a previous Skype account which is free obviously. Then all you do is load Fring and then you can put in your Skype account and it will upload all your Skype contacts. You can then select one of these and hit call. You are now making a VOIP call over your phones data stream to your friends computer. But if you are wanted to make VOIP calls to landlines actual home telephones or cell phones then that will cost you money and you will have to load skype credits an what not. But if you have an unlimited data plan (which most people do if you have a pocket pc) then you can just call people on your buddy list like if you were talking from your desktop. This way if your friend is online you can talk all you want and not use any of your regular minutes cuz its all working off your data plan. You must have a 3G connection though or it will not be fast enough.
FREE softphone/BYOD
Simply put, http://www.nch.com.au/talk/:)
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The Gizmo5 mobile client is Java based. It will run like crap if it all on your device. More bad news, it's primarily an IM app and it does not do pure VoIP.
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First of all, THANK YOU for your very detailed post. It is on point, and addresses my questions, and that's very much appreciated.
I did want to elaborate just a bit on the Gizmo option though. The only reason I specifically mention Gizmo is because that's the provider that grandcentral says it works with. Is it possible to use a good windows mobile voip client with gizmo service? If so, that would be ideal, since I could continue to receive calls to grand central, without having to pay for a seperate sip /voip-in service.
http://www.google.com/support/grandcentral/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=79951
I use Voipstunt, and I'm able to make and receive calls on my device. However you do have to pay for the service. And typically it will cost a little more if you want a dedicated number so you can receive POTS calls. In many (most) cases calls between SIP devices / VOIP software are free. Skype is probably the most common example of this.
I'm sure you're busy, as we all are, but as you have time you really should peruse this INCREDIBLY long but educational thread on VOIP. In a nutshell here's what's needed to do get what you're asking about. You will need a VOIP provider (probably NOT Packet8, I'm afraid), a soft phone application for Windows Mobile (I like SJPhone or X-Lite), and if you want to receive from a POTS line you will also need an incoming number from your VOIP provider (usually called a VOIP-In number). Hope this helps you a little. Good luck!
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Again, thanks for the info. I'll definitely check out that thread. I'm fine with using a different provider if need be, but somewhat hesitant just because calls would be going from pots to grandcentral to pots dialing the voip number, back to voip to get to my phone. (at least, I assume since GC only supports gizmo voip numbers, that they are actually forwarding to pots for any other calls outbound.) That just seems like a lot of transitions, which is why the gizmo would be my first choice if it can work with a better voip client.
Thanks again!
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I use FRING http://www.fring.com/ It also handles other thinkgs such as Skype. I had a previous Skype account which is free obviously. Then all you do is load Fring and then you can put in your Skype account and it will upload all your Skype contacts. You can then select one of these and hit call. You are now making a VOIP call over your phones data stream to your friends computer. But if you are wanted to make VOIP calls to landlines actual home telephones or cell phones then that will cost you money and you will have to load skype credits an what not. But if you have an unlimited data plan (which most people do if you have a pocket pc) then you can just call people on your buddy list like if you were talking from your desktop. This way if your friend is online you can talk all you want and not use any of your regular minutes cuz its all working off your data plan. You must have a 3G connection though or it will not be fast enough.
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Unfortunately, 3G isn't available around here, but as I said, I'm really looking for this to work over a wifi connection anyway, which should definitely be fast enough to handle the calls.
I'll check into fring, hopefully it can support the gizmo service as well!
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Packet8 is a non-standard VOIP provider. I believe you will need to download, install, and use their client. And that'll cost you over and above your existing service. Worse, I don't think it will get you what you want. Appears that you can make calls, but I'm not sure if you can receive them. I'm not a Packet8 user so I'm not certain of that. But since you are, I'd recommend contacting them to find out what's possible with their service using a mobile device.
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I've seen ads for the Mobiletalk service form packet8 before, but unless I'm mistaken it's intended for getting voip rates on international calls, not for everyday voip use for domestic calls. I'm downloading the app now to see if it can be used in that way, but if it does what I need I'll be surprised.
Whoops, looks like my initial understanding was correct:
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How does MobileTalk work?
MobileTalk is a small software application that monitors your international calls and redirects it to the Packet8 service. When an international prefix is dialed (starting with 011, + or 1), MobileTalk intelligently redirects the call to an access number in the same area code as your mobile phone number, and connects the call over the Packet8 VoIP phone service network. To sign up click here.
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Seriously?
Did you not read my post? It is a free pocket pc softphone that you can use with any SIP/VoIp service, as long as you can get their network settings. As with the post earlier in the thread, VoipStunt provides a very reasonable service, and they provide settings for BYOD(bring your own device). You will find it here http://www.voipstunt.com/en/sipp.html But mainly you need a windows mobile softphone, http://www.nch.com.au/talk/index.html From there you have many more options on what service you use. Also try http://www.broadvoice.com/ they have many flavours of service.;-)
I am not sure this will do the job for you but google wengophone. They have a soft phone that will work on your Tilt. I have used it to make outgoing calls and works good. I have not tried it for incoming as I think my ATA would pick the incoming up first. All you need is your login, PW, proxie and domain server name. If you have those for Gizmo it should work.
Let us know if it does.
FWIW, I'm 75 or so pages into the 'log educational thread' mentioned above. Anyone who's starting on that thread, feel free to read from the beginning, but don't start installing stuff or mucking with settings until you've read all the way through. There are multiple revisions of the cabs and files needed, and it seems that the original posts don't get updated with the new info.
So far, my voip is working, using the windows mobile 6 client, with gizmo, so yes, it can be done, but it's only working on speakerphone currently. Still reading for more info.
I've just summarized a bit of what I've gathered so far from that long 'educational' thread pointed out by hotmail, on page 135 of the same thread. Hope that helps others!
Ok Ive got the G1 1.5 UK update. Ive got sipdroid on my phone it launches and everything. Ive registered an account on pbxes.org. After that i have no idea. Can someone please help me out with a step by step on how to use this app and pbxes
You might not need to use pbxes.org at all, depending on who your SIP provider is. I use Gizmo5 and can connect directly to proxy01.sipphone.com just fine.
iptel did most of the development of Sipdroid, so it's understandable they would want to promote their service (like how Android on G1 is pretty Google-centric). However, it is afterall just a SIP client. Plug your SIP provider's info into sipdroid's configuration and see if it will connect.
Yeah how much do you pay for gizmo5 ?
It's like most other consumer SIP providers: free to make VOIP calls, but if you want to make a call to a PSTN number it will be billed per minute. You can see their call-out rates here and compare it with the rates of other SIP providers that offer a PSTN connection service.
Basic instructions on setting up Sipdroid posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=516861
Sipdroid suggestions for service
First let me say that I love this app! I have been waiting for something like this to come along and want to thank the developers!
I have been experimenting with Sipdroid for a couple of weeks and have a few suggstions for those that would like to try it. In my experience so far....Anything I have setup has to go through pbxes.org in order for it to function properly.
You can sign up for an account with a service like 12voip.com or voipbuster.com. They are the same company but each offers "Free" calls to different countries so look at their list of free calls/countries and decide which one works best for you. For about $10.00 you get 90 days of service (300 minutes a week of calling) through sip or regular phone (via a local access number). This was the least expensive way to go for testing. I'm sure someone can suggest other VOIP services but these have been the ones I have tested with so these are only suggestions.
pbxes.org also offers service so they are another alternative.
You will also need to configure these services through pbxes.org as they will not work directly through the sipdroid software. I tried and failed. I was able to make calls but could not hear the person on the other end. Once I set it up through pbxes.org it all worked fine. You can obtain the sip settings for them on their websites. You will need to enter that info into your pbxes.org account. Now remember, this will only be for outgoing calls. They do not suppy a real phone number for incoming calls. I think you can get a real number through pbxes.org but I'm not sure. You should be able to receive sip to sip calls which would be [email protected] or 12voip.com but I didn't bother even trying that.
For a SIP die hard another suggestion (this is what I have settled with and it is working perfectly) is to invest 39.95 and buy a Magic Jack. If you have one already and don't use it and it's still active use it for this!
You will be able to pick a US phone number with choice of state/city. With a little searching at magicjacksupport.com you can obtain your sip settings and have the magic without the jack! In other words, you can setup your magicjack sip settings through pbxes.org and make/receive calls over sip. Your magicjack does not have to be plugged into your computer! It has been working perfectly for me. This procedure IS NOT something that the makers of MagicJack support and I am sure they would not be to happy about it either! So if you decide to do this, you are doing it on your own and it is possible you may violate your MJ TOS! I have not had a problem and have been doing magicjack things for quite a while!
If someone dials my magicjack number the calls forward to pbxes.org and in turn forwards the calls via sip and my phone rings (first it shows my MJ number and then it shows the caller ID of the person calling) and I answer, LOL. By showing my MJ number first, this lets me know that the call is coming in over SIP.
Pure SIP in and out. I picked a local number for my area and let my friends know to call me on it and they dont know the difference. My phone doesn't seem to care either! I have not experienced a single dropped call. I have been using this over wifi and 3g. I don't suggest edge as it is just way to choppy but you can if you want.
While I have to give iptel props for spearheading the whole sipdroid project, I really prefer to keep my SIP relationship between my sip ua and my sip provider. A middleman like pbxes is really not necessary from a personal user perspective and also potentially adds more lag to the call.
A lot of people seem to like the Betamax sip providers for their various free call schemes, but there are always caveats (max length of call being the primary one) and the account management ui sucks quite a lot. The worst part is the rather unsophisticated nature of the site and service give me the impression of being unreliable or unprofessional. If I could connect to callcentric with sipdroid, I would be using that, but until then I am sticking with Gizmo5/sipphone.
By the way, there are various other ways to get a free DID (inbound number). I'm using the popular ipkall service, but once Google Voice goes live it will be pretty much the king of all free DID services.
p.s. Please continue discussion on Sipdroid in my Sipdroid primer thread, to keep things in one organized place.
Hi briangnyc,
How did you forward your call from MJ to Pbxes.org? What number do you use for Pbxes?
Thanks,
-Gus
Can anyone give me a basic run down on the Google Voice interface. I have not been invited and am extremly curious if it is everything I have heard.A basic description would be great. Thanks in advance.
Whether it's "good" or not all depends on what you want from it.
GV gives you a new number, which can be in any area code, whether you live there or not. Changes to this number cost $10 later, but the first is free.
You have flexibility with GV to add your landline or even other cell phones to the account so that any or all receive the call when it comes in. You can set up a friend's landline as a temporary number, for example, if you have no cell signal at his place.
GV gives you voicemail with custom greetings for various contacts. I much prefer YouMail for this, but to each his own. In addition, you can set certain callers to go straight to voicemail or which phone rings when they dial your GV number.
GV allows you to screen calls *while* they're being recorded to voicemail. You can choose to "pick up" at any point.
You can also record calls in progress.
GV gives cheaper rates for international calls.
If you tell a bunch of people to call you at a certain time, you can add them to a conference call on the fly.
I'm sure there's something I've missed. It's a pretty flexible service. It allows your number to be tied to *you* rather than to any particular device or carrier.
Voicemails can be transcribed and sent as text in an e-mail.
http://www.google.com/googlevoice/about.html
I absolutely love it. I don't get reception in my office, so I use GV to route any calls to my cell during work hours to my desk phone and work cell. I use the GV number for situations where I don't want sales people calling my home or real cell and if I'm giving my number to someone I will most likely never see again
SMS free of charge was what brought me in - and the latest update to the app brings real-time syncing (previously the lowest possible refresh setting was 5 minutes). I already pay ATT for a data plan, why the hell should I have to pay an extra $15 for what amounts to a miniscule amount of data? Google Voice solved that problem.
I moved myself entirely over to GV, no one calls my actual cell number. I haven't had any significant issues so far, and I've been using it for half a year.
I only use it for the voicemail, which is more than enough reason to use it. You use your same phone number but get digital transcribed + audio voicemails with a very clean interface, also available on the web. You can set up sms and email notifications too.
The one drawback I can think of is this:
If you use GV completely, unless you have one of the unlimited plans from t-mobile (or your GV number set up under the old MyFaves plan) it uses minutes like any other call. No mobile-to-mobile anymore. Anybody care to back me up or refute this?
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The one drawback I can think of is this:
If you use GV completely, unless you have one of the unlimited plans from t-mobile (or your GV number set up under the old MyFaves plan) it uses minutes like any other call. No mobile-to-mobile anymore. Anybody care to back me up or refute this?
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Really? Damn no wonder they got rid of MyFaves. They realized this and made a fix by removing it completely maybe. hahaha.
Have to admit I am payng ALOT 95/month for unlimited everything while my girlfriend pays only 50/month for the same thing with Boost.
The only thing with Boost is that the phones are trash.
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Whether it's "good" or not all depends on what you want from it.
GV gives you a new number, which can be in any area code, whether you live there or not. Changes to this number cost $10 later, but the first is free.
You have flexibility with GV to add your landline or even other cell phones to the account so that any or all receive the call when it comes in. You can set up a friend's landline as a temporary number, for example, if you have no cell signal at his place.
GV gives you voicemail with custom greetings for various contacts. I much prefer YouMail for this, but to each his own. In addition, you can set certain callers to go straight to voicemail or which phone rings when they dial your GV number.
GV allows you to screen calls *while* they're being recorded to voicemail. You can choose to "pick up" at any point.
You can also record calls in progress.
GV gives cheaper rates for international calls.
If you tell a bunch of people to call you at a certain time, you can add them to a conference call on the fly.
I'm sure there's something I've missed. It's a pretty flexible service. It allows your number to be tied to *you* rather than to any particular device or carrier.
Voicemails can be transcribed and sent as text in an e-mail.
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Can you confirm that if you receive a phonecall out of state but receive or make a call through your Google Voice # it is still considered local??
I've had it for a while, but only just started using it on my phone, although my wife uses it to call back to england (nothing cheaper).
To get around it using minutes just figure out what local access number it is dialing, and add that to your fave fives (I'm on the original day one g1 contract still, so I still have fave fives)
For me the sms and vm management are the best things about it, but it's also nice to know I won't ever have to port a number over if I switch carriers
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Can you confirm that if you receive a phonecall out of state but receive or make a call through your Google Voice # it is still considered local??
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I'm not sure I understand the question. I live in Florida and have a GV number in Atlanta. Calls from Atlantans to my GV number are considered local for them.
And about MyFaves, I believe GV was the main reason tmo got rid of the plan. If you use GV for everything and have your GV number as one of your fave five, you'd use zero minutes from your bucket as far as tmo is concerned.
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The one drawback I can think of is this:
If you use GV completely, unless you have one of the unlimited plans from t-mobile (or your GV number set up under the old MyFaves plan) it uses minutes like any other call. No mobile-to-mobile anymore. Anybody care to back me up or refute this?
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Mobile-to-mobile still applies for incoming calls (at least on ATT). I would imagine Tmobile (or any carrier) would work the same way.
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I'm not sure I understand the question. I live in Florida and have a GV number in Atlanta. Calls from Atlantans to my GV number are considered local for them.
And about MyFaves, I believe GV was the main reason tmo got rid of the plan. If you use GV for everything and have your GV number as one of your fave five, you'd use zero minutes from your bucket as far as tmo is concerned.
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Got it, you answered my question even though it wasn't well put. Thanks for confirming!
Damn!! I got suckered into the "Loyalty Plan" now everyone and anyone can use the plan. I should of stuck with my MyFaves plan, worst mistake of my life taking this service off.
According to an APP i downloaded called GV dialer. apparently it will route your call through internet and not use your minutes when you dial.
now i dunno if thats true, but im testing it at the moment. but it makes my own google voice call me and then it calls the person i'd like to call.
and btw i love google voice ^^ great if you need a business number.
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According to an APP i downloaded called GV dialer. apparently it will route your call through internet and not use your minutes when you dial.
now i dunno if thats true, but im testing it at the moment. but it makes my own google voice call me and then it calls the person i'd like to call.
and btw i love google voice ^^ great if you need a business number.
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I tried GV dialer on my old mytouch with no sim, it didn't go through, said i wasn't registered on a network. =( So i'm guessing it doesn't use wifi. Not sure about 3g/edge on network.
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According to an APP i downloaded called GV dialer. apparently it will route your call through internet and not use your minutes when you dial.
now i dunno if thats true, but im testing it at the moment. but it makes my own google voice call me and then it calls the person i'd like to call.
and btw i love google voice ^^ great if you need a business number.
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The only difference when calling between GVDialer and the official GV app is that GVDialer will count as an incoming call and Google's GV app will count as an outgoing call. So if you have free incoming it would be benificial to use GVDialer to make your phone calls.
Been using it for quite some time now.. mainly for the SMS feature.. too bad I can't send SMS to European numbers tried to SMS the in-laws using GV but no go..
I am now using GV as my work voicemail. Took a while to get our stubborn carrier to set up the No Answer/Busy forwarding, and I had to set my work number in GV as "mobile" to enable the forwarding options. The end result is that when I don't pick up my work number, the callers get forwarded to my GV voicemail.
The only drawback is that in Google Voice the greeting can only be set based on caller ID, so you can assign it to contacts and groups. This means that you cannot set a greeting based on which one of your numbers was called, i.e. you can't set a separate "work" greeting and assign it to your work number.
That reminds me...one thing I despise about GV is the inability to *upload* custom greetings. Their system of recording-from-the-handset-while-calling-in really blows.
That's why I prefer YouMail for voicemail. Its standard greeting greets your callers by name (if you have them in your contact list saved on YouMail's site).
heh, I was just looking for a way to upload greetings yesterday and found this out...
very disappointed, I was going to give each of my contacts their own private greeting - which would have really screwed with a couple of my friends
Situation: The place I go skydiving at is really rural. My service goes in and out, but is more out than in. Is there any way possible to force a connection to the AT&T network that's out there? When I try, I get the message "Your SIM card does not allow this" or whatever it says. I don't wanna drop my T Mobile service, as I've had them since '02 and they've been great to me. But I'm at wit's end with this no service thing every weekend when I jump =/
Thanks in advance
~Lania
lol.... no not unless you can somehow get ATT to allow T-Mo sims.... and hell has a better chance of freezing over..... only option i can think of is grab an ATT ppd sim.... either do the hack to install 2 sims (requires pretty severe physical modification to the phone) or simply remove your T-mo Sim and insert your ATT sim....
you ARE using google voice arent you? in that case you can have all incoming calls ring both numbers, seeing as you should only have one registered on a network at a time....
welcome to the only reason i ever even think of dropping my T-Mo service.... and ive had them since before they were called T-Mobile... (powertel, i think.....)
No, I don't use Google voice. Don't you have to have an invite for that?
Anyway, it's not that big a deal I guess...My service has been gettin a lil better the more I go out there. Last weekend if I put my butt up against the hanger door, I got signal lol My contract is up next August. Prob switch to Verizon then unless T Mobile gets somethin done with the quickness about their service coverage.
you can have an invite sent to you by someone who has it, or you can request an invite off the google voice page it's self, it just takes about a week to get the invite if you request thru GV site... id HIGHLY reccomend getting one, all kinds of cool stuff can be done, including (but not limited too) Cheap international rates (.02 per min to landlines almost anywhere), totally unlimited calling over SIP (this ones pretty tricky to setup), visual and transcribed voice mails, caller screening, call routing (inbound).
if WiFi is available where your having signal issues then a SIP solution through GV, a SIP provider, SIPSorcery, and PBXes.org could give you access to phone calls (inbound and outbound, to/from you GV number)
its a rough setup (took me several tries, a couple days, and a couple shots to finally get right, and im nowhere near a novice) but if thats what would solve your problem grab a copy of SIPDroid (off the google code page, not the market), a GV invite, a PBXes account, a SIPSorcery account (all of the preceding are free services). A SIP provider will also be nessicary (some are free and some arent, i use SIPGate, which is free the way i use it/ have it set up).
look around on google for some tutorials (id link to one, but none were complete, or were old, i had to piece the info together from several tutorials, the SIPDroid page, PBXes help pages, and some common sense)
I'll look into it
worst case it'll allow you to still use your G1 for calls on Wifi over SIP after you change service providers (and phones) if you dont grab another android (or even if you do for that matter, with the proper setup ofcourse)...
I'm re-visiting the idea of sip and/or some voip option. Google voice is great, but uses airtime. What's everyone doing for free data/3G/Wifi calling with voip? The phone companies are charging ridiculous prices for basic service and would like to mostly make outbound calls that don't require airtime or use minutes.
Thanks!
Sipdroid will tie in your Google Voice number and set up a pbxes account to route calls through VoIP. It works pretty good.
Or get the app mentioned in one of the 7 threads about this exact same topic already. I can't remember what its called, but its an all-in-one tool. No csipsimple and/or pbxes necessary.
edit: ya know, the thread thats on the first page of this forum titled, "[Guide] Unlimited Wifi/3G VoIP Calling"... I don't expect you to search, so here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16129412#post16129412
I use grooveip
teh_lorax said:
Or get the app mentioned in one of the 7 threads about this exact same topic already. I can't remember what its called, but its an all-in-one tool. No csipsimple and/or pbxes necessary.
edit: ya know, the thread thats on the first page of this forum titled, "[Guide] Unlimited Wifi/3G VoIP Calling"... I don't expect you to search, so here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16129412#post16129412
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good thing i didnt ask the same damn question, lol
autosearch on new posts was a brilliant idea =)
Imperial.mack said:
I use grooveip
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Same here, GrooveIP work great over 3g or wifi and does NOT use minutes.
+1 on the groove ip
i spent the last day downloadin every friggin app they have and groove ip was the only one that just worked without needin a PhD, and it didnt mess with everything else on my phone either.
the one thing i haven't figured out is how to get incoming calls to my google voice number to ring on my phone. i can do outgoing calls just fine, and i get incoming text messages. but incoming calls to my google voice go straight to voicemail.
im hopin i just have a setting wrong somewhere that eventually i will find and correct, but free outgoing calls is good enough for now i guess
death2verizon said:
im hopin i just have a setting wrong somewhere that eventually i will find and correct, but free outgoing calls is good enough for now i guess
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Try this, go into the Google Voice settings (on PC) and make sure that the Do Not Disturb is off and also turn off Screen Callers.
baseballfanz said:
Try this, go into the Google Voice settings (on PC) and make sure that the Do Not Disturb is off and also turn off Screen Callers.
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yeah, i found the "call screening" setting previously and was hoping that was why but it had no effect. i did verify that the do not disturb is unchecked as well
i did find one thing i had overlooked, under the "fowarding phones - foward calls to:" i unchecked the actual number of my cell phone (the one provided by at&t, as in my "real" cell phone number).
i was thinking that having calls fowarded to my actual cell number would defeat the whole purpose, essentially just fowarding the free google voice calls to my cell as a normal incoming call and therefore using my minutes.
knowing more now then i did then about how google works by "intercepting" the calls, i'm guessing this is probably what i did wrong...
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death2verizon said:
knowing more now then i did
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than, not "then"
sorry, just my OCD rearing its ugly head, lol...
death2verizon said:
yeah, i found the "call screening" setting previously and was hoping that was why but it had no effect. i did verify that the do not disturb is unchecked as well
i did find one thing i had overlooked, under the "fowarding phones - foward calls to:" i unchecked the actual number of my cell phone (the one provided by at&t, as in my "real" cell phone number).
i was thinking that having calls fowarded to my actual cell number would defeat the whole purpose, essentially just fowarding the free google voice calls to my cell as a normal incoming call and therefore using my minutes.
knowing more now then i did then about how google works by "intercepting" the calls, i'm guessing this is probably what i did wrong...
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than, not "then"
sorry, just my OCD rearing its ugly head, lol...
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Actually, if you are using groove ip, you have to have incoming calls set to ring Google chat in your Google voice settings. And then anytime you're signed onto groove ip, calls will come to you.
Sent from my Nexus One using xda premium
free PSTN calls? no such legit thing.
@google voice fanbois
Have you no [privacy] issue with how google bridges calls? Ever GV call has THREE parties: you, the other guy, AND google.
your "free" calls seem to have a high price tag, much as adware apps do.
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how long would you spend trying to find a free mobile phone WITH a free provider?
I'm in a slightly larger sip/pbx pond.. I pay an internets pbx host and configure asterisk to my liking.
My privacy is not a commodity
VerizonKoolaid said:
Have you no [privacy] issue with how google bridges calls? Ever GV call has THREE parties: you, the other guy, AND google.
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I am always amazed at how freaked out people get over privacy issues. Do you really think that google is going to take the time to listen in on my calls? Or read my emails? Or look at my calendar? What about what your bank does with all your transaction details? Or your ISP with all the sites you visit? Or your telephone company with all your phone records and the possibility of them illegally recording your phone calls, or at the very least, tracking where you are calling?
There are countless entities that keep "private" information. Apparantly, we have total faith in the other ones I mentioned, but somehow think that Google is out to get all of us and wants our first-born child? I really don't think Google cares about all the text messages I send my brother about geeking out with random tech bits, or when I call my mom using GrooVeIP from Germany, or all emails I get from youtube people asking me to subscribe to them, or knowing that I have a weekly thing called Institute that happens Wednesday nights at 7:30PM because it is on my calendar. What are they going to do with this information? Are they going to try and create a robot clone of me to take over my life?
The point is that there is a ton of information about YOU out there and a ton of different companies have it. And they have had it long before google ever came around. If you are really concerned about your information being held by 3rd party companies, you better figure out a way to live completely self-sustained.