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Hey everyone,
I'm new to these boards but have been a long time PDA/phone user. Last night, I downloaded and installed the 2.25 ROM for my Cingular 8125 device and setup my Exchange account.
I have an MS Exchange 2003 SP2 mailbox and setup Direct Push, but the e-mails still take a minute or two to get to me when a Blackberry or GoodLink take about 15 seconds. It seems that the Exchange server just pushes out an IP packet to my phone to make it go through the [seemingly wasteful] process of performing an ActiveSync operation. So constantly my connection arrows are alternating between "connected" and "ActiveSyncing." To me, it's almost as slow as the old SMS push-pull method.
Furthermore, it seems that (a) my ability to sync my subfolders is gone. Previously, I could select folders to sync to my device from my device. Now, I can select all my folders, but they are all empty (except my Inbox). If I go to Menu -> Tools, the "Manage Folders" option is greyed out. I cannot tap and hold a folder to sync it. And (b), the option to manually "send/receive" is also greyed out. If I turn DirectPush off (which I do at night to prevent receiving my emails), I have to open the ActiveSync application to get my e-mail instead of previously being able to tap Menu -> Send/Receive from the Messaging program.
Is this normal? Are these the results that others are seeing from MSFP? Finally, are there any other noteworthy improvements in this ROM other than MSFP? If this is the case, and there are no other improvements, wouldn't it behoove me to revert back to the previous ROM?
Thank you in advance for you help and insight!
-M-
The messaging app can switch between SMS, Email and MMS. You can switch it by press Email button on top left corner or by changing accounts in menu. Sounds like all you issue is related to the fact that your messaging app is currently in other accounts like SMS or MMS.
foxbat121 said:
The messaging app can switch between SMS, Email and MMS. You can switch it by press Email button on top left corner or by changing accounts in menu. Sounds like all you issue is related to the fact that your messaging app is currently in other accounts like SMS or MMS.
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Foxbat,
Thank you, but I am in the Outlook E-mail account. I'm pretty savvy about these things to know at least that much!
I'm still not able to manage my folders or manually send and receive and I still feel like there's a longer lag time than Blackberry or GoodLink.
Are you using the MSFP ROM with an Exchange 2003 SP2 account? If so, what are your experiences?
Thanks again!
Yes, I'm using MSFP on 2.17 ROM right now. I have none of your issues.
i can just say that it doesn't sound like the MSFP is actually working in your case. Once i switched to directpush, my messages are on my phone within 5 seconds, no activesync whatsoever. same for calendar, tasks and contacts.
i have a tmo blackberry and a tmo mda - i tested sending messages to both at the same time, on average the mda receives the message about 1 second later than the blackberry - an extrememly nice improvement.
The send/receive option in Outlook account is always greyed out, you can only receive email there by syncing or push mail. there is a thread on this on this forum, called Pocket Outlook Account is worthless or something like that.
Koksie said:
The send/receive option in Outlook account is always greyed out, you can only receive email there by syncing or push mail. there is a thread on this on this forum, called Pocket Outlook Account is worthless or something like that.
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Wrong. It works just fine all the time for me in 2.17 ROM and 2.24 ROM (I skipped the worthless 2.25 Cingular ROM). I don't know what's wrong with OP's issue. Maybe he should re-examine the settings or do a hard reset.
I had a similar problem when I updated my ROM. Send/recieve and Manage Folders was greyed out. I fixed it by deleting the sync to my exchange and re-adding it through active sync on my PC. From active sync on the PC double click Exchange server. Click the "delete server" button. Wait for it to sync and remove all your emails from the phone. Then go Tools > Configure Server Source and add it back in. This worked for me.
If that doesn't work, you can select folders in active sync. That also worked for me before I deleted and re-added my exchange. Not as handy as being able to do it from the phone though.
edit: oops. old thread. Is it 2007 already? :O Oh well, the info may help someone...
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edit: oops. old thread. Is it 2007 already? :O Oh well, the info may help someone...
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It's helped me! Thank you so much peon!
Hi guys,
Im running wm6.1 on my kaiser. As we all know on the htc today screen, theres the 3 buttons below the clock... email, text, and missed calls.
i get a txt, the middle icon shows ive got 1 message. i click that, opens up my sms/mms inbox... read txt etc... close screen.
i then get an email, the left icon shows ive got 1 message. i click that, but for some unknown reason, it loads up the sms/mms inbox. I have to then switch to my email account using the drop down menu.
This never used to happen, but it does it all the time now...
Also, i created a "new account" using my gmail address, instead of using the "outlook E-mail" account... could this be causing the problem? i dont want to have to flash my ROM again, but id like to get this all working properly.
Finally, i just downloaded Slithers CUBE (SCLPC w/FTouchFLO)... and i cannot find where i need to link the email button to in the config. yes, i am a noob, but id still v much appreciate any kind of help with this matter.
thanks one and all
I believe that the Email Icon is linked to the outlook account specifically and not to a user created account (Like Gmail). If it does not find a valid outlook account then it may open up the last accessed account (E.g SMS/MMS).
Hopes this helps.
i've just created/edited the outlook account so that its got all the details etc from my gmail address... but for some reason, it comes up saying error syncronising...
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I have to then switch to my email account using the drop down menu.
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While you are inside the "Message" application (I do not know the correct English word as I'm using a Norwegian version of WM), you can use the left/right button to switch between SMS/MMS, Outlook and other additional e-mail accounts.
/Bjørn
olsenbjo said:
While you are inside the "Message" application (I do not know the correct English word as I'm using a Norwegian version of WM), you can use the left/right button to switch between SMS/MMS, Outlook and other additional e-mail accounts.
/Bjørn
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Hey Bjorn (sorry, i cant find the propper "o")
I can see what you mean, but my issue is more that it should simply load straight into the email account. And now that ive deleted the account i created, it does just that - loads straight into the outlook account.
However, i keep getting the "error syncing" message whenever i try to download my gmail email.
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Hey Bjorn (sorry, i cant find the propper "o")
I can see what you mean, but my issue is more that it should simply load straight into the email account. And now that ive deleted the account i created, it does just that - loads straight into the outlook account.
However, i keep getting the "error syncing" message whenever i try to download my gmail email.
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My intention was just to give you an easier method for switching between your accounts, as this method should be more user-friendly than using drop-down menus
/Bjørn
Try this:
1) Download and run KaiserTweak
2) Find the 'HTC Application' branch.
3) Change the 'HTC Home e-mail button' to 'Open default Mailbox (Advised)'
I've had this same problem in the past. Essentially when you push the e-mail button and it's not working correctly it will open up the messaging app wherever it already is. So if you have SMS open (but minimised/off screen), then pushing the e-mail button will simply open it there.
jonc
Im afraid i've been one step ahead... kaisertweak was one of the first things i downloaded... originally, i did have the problem with it loading up the "choose accounts" messaging thing, and i changed that using the kaisertweak settings...
but im afraid, one day on, that i still cant download my email using the outlook account i searched lots yesterday, and found that people either used activesync to jumpstart the emails, or that it just randomly worked the next day. But ive tried both, and both have failed
please, someone, help me get my mail...
billgatessucks
Have exactly the same problem. Did you find the solution?
nope, no solution...
i was fed up of not having emails, so ive remade a new email account and i just have to switch...
tho i am looking into ways of remapping the softkeys so that one is assigned directly to going into your email inbox, and the other to start a new sms... two vital functions that dont seem to exsist on the kaiser
On the TF3D sceen, is there any way to link the mail button to the outlook mail instead of the "internet" mail?
Thanks
Err... If you set up your Outlook mail.. it would work.
If you set up your Outlook Mail and KEEP the Internet Mail (as well), then you will have both of them being accessed from the TF3D mail button (two envelopes on the right, instead of one)
If you set up your Outlook Mail and DELETE the Internet Mail, then you will have one envelope on the right .. and THAT will be the one for Outlook Mail.
To set up your Outlook mail, Tap on TF3D mail button
Then tap on Inbox
Then - Menu - Tools - Options
Now, tap on Outlook E-mail and enter the settings.
I actually tried to configure the Outlook Mail account (time pass) for gmail.
I couldn't get it to work.. (for some reason - sure I did something wrong).
Tried to sync Outlook Mail with my PC using Active Sync... some certificate validity issues came up..
Then, just decided to chuck it.
Had two envelopes appearing on the side.. just went ahead and cleared up everything from the registry - related to the mail set ups and set up my Gmail as the Internet Mail again.
I have set up my Outlook, and as you can see from screenshot, it's got mail in it, however, if I delete my POP3 email, the TF3D screen shows no accounts in the mail screen...
Anyone got any idead how to link the Outlook Inbox to the TF3D Mail screen??
Your email notification icon at the top looks quite suspicious... do you have another email client (such as BB Connect or Intellisync Mobile Suite) installed? I used Intellisync before and this is the icon I received and it also wasnt appearing in TF3D.
Let me know if you are using Intellisync- there is a work-around
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Your email notification icon at the top looks quite suspicious... do you have another email client (such as BB Connect or Intellisync Mobile Suite) installed? I used Intellisync before and this is the icon I received and it also wasnt appearing in TF3D.
Let me know if you are using Intellisync- there is a work-around
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Yes, I am using Intellisync Mobile Suite....
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Yes, I am using Intellisync Mobile Suite....
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It's much better than Outlook Mobile isn't it? Nice to have REAL push mail
The reason TF3D isnt working is because it only recognises Outlook Mobile and not IMS and you do not have an Outlook account setup. The workaround (I'm hoping to find a better way) is to create an Outlook account through Activesync/Mobile Device Center on your PC. I've done some tests and there is no conflict between the two.
The downside is that there is no real integration between TF3D/Outlook and IMS so IMS is essentially working in Parallel. What I am trying to figure out is how to map TF3D to IMS so that when you click the envelope it takes you to IMS and not Outlook. At least with this workaround, you will get the best of both worlds with TF3D showing you your emails and IMS giving you the real push mail functionality which Outlook lacks.
Let me know if it works for you
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It's much better than Outlook Mobile isn't it? Nice to have REAL push mail
The reason TF3D isnt working is because it only recognises Outlook Mobile and not IMS and you do not have an Outlook account setup. The workaround (I'm hoping to find a better way) is to create an Outlook account through Activesync/Mobile Device Center on your PC. I've done some tests and there is no conflict between the two.
The downside is that there is no real integration between TF3D/Outlook and IMS so IMS is essentially working in Parallel. What I am trying to figure out is how to map TF3D to IMS so that when you click the envelope it takes you to IMS and not Outlook. At least with this workaround, you will get the best of both worlds with TF3D showing you your emails and IMS giving you the real push mail functionality which Outlook lacks.
Let me know if it works for you
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Excellent. I'm now showing the envelope in the Mail TF3D screen. I presume that with this workaround, all I will ever get is the "Click to view message" message, and not the first few lines of the message that you get with a POP3 account or a proper outlook account. (see attached)
From reading your message I am also guessing you are using version 8 or 9 of IMS. I currently look after 3 servers all using varieties of version 6. I have just created a new server with version 9 which installs the "intellisync" suite of application on the device. I've tried it on an XDA Exec, XDA Orbit (and some nokia and Sony Ericsson devices). I haven't tried it on the Diamond yet. How is it on that?
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From reading your message I am also guessing you are using version 8 or 9 of IMS. I currently look after 3 servers all using varieties of version 6. I have just created a new server with version 9 which installs the "intellisync" suite of application on the device. I've tried it on an XDA Exec, XDA Orbit (and some nokia and Sony Ericsson devices). I haven't tried it on the Diamond yet. How is it on that?
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Correct.
I am using version 9 which works like a charm. I work for the local operator here in Dubai and am currently one of a few internal testers for IMS before we launch it as a service. I find it to be very functional and light on resources- highly highly recommended. Beats all competition including Blackberry (I've also set it up to get a personal POP3 account in much the same way as BB Internet does)
As for how much of the message appears in the TF3D, this depends on how much you tell Outlook to download of the message- all you need is a couple of KBs at the most to get the first few lines in the envelope.
Hey guys
I'm sorry but this will be probably an off-topic and stupid question but when you receive an email on your Diamond does it look like on your pc and can you view emails that have lots of graphics in them ??
I'm really sorry but this is my first WM device and i would like to know things like that
It depends on what kind of email account you are setting up on the device. If it's an Exchange account, the server has to be running Exchange 2007 for you to get HTML email on your device. Internet Email and IMAP display HTML without any problems.
well i've been using maill2web and it just emails didn't look like they should. Maybe you can tell me where can i find a good exchange server or something like that ??
gaabrysz said:
well i've been using maill2web and it just emails didn't look like they should. Maybe you can tell me where can i find a good exchange server or something like that ??
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Well... there's many to choose from depending on your needs and budget (not sure of any free ones but you'll probably find some out there- although possibly not because Exchange is not cheap to install or maintain). Anyway a simple Google will give you many results http://www.google.ae/search?hl=en&q=hosted+exchange&meta=
Anyone found the solution yet ?
Noticed the solution to sync to a phony account - But I would really prefer to sort this via a registry tweak or similar.
I need to roll this out to a large number of corporate users, so the phony tweak is kind of hard to roll out compared to a registry modification.
Anyone?...
Its kind of frustrating to see the number of new emails in the notification area of TF3D but not actually being able to use the TF3D envelope function.
Regards
M
Hello,
I tried to find a solution, too. But up to now without success.
Does anyone know, where TF3D gets it's information from?
Best
mawim
no link to intellisync/outlook
mawim said:
Hello,
I tried to find a solution, too. But up to now without success.
Does anyone know, where TF3D gets it's information from?
Best
mawim
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I also had an intense view at the registry, couldn't find any link to IMS/Outlook key...
I had a phonecall with nokias tac, telling me they will release a patch to solve this problem, not only to see unread mails at the TF3D - to have the original functionality of the tf3d mailicon workin. He could not tell me when the patch
will be released but it WILL come...
...but I'm very sure it could be solved with the correct Regkey...
regards, Marq
Marqus said:
I also had an intense view at the registry, couldn't find any link to IMS/Outlook key...
I had a phonecall with nokias tac, telling me they will release a patch to solve this problem, not only to see unread mails at the TF3D - to have the original functionality of the tf3d mailicon workin. He could not tell me when the patch
will be released but it WILL come...
...but I'm very sure it could be solved with the correct Regkey...
regards, Marq
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Sorry to drag up an old thread - I'm currently using Intellisync and would also like to use TF3D to view my emails ...
Did any kind of patch or regedit get released or worked out?
Meanwhile, I'll try the work-around above in this thread if I can work out what to do exactly.
Regards,
Gary.
Any news on this ?
Any sight of that Intellisync patch ?
On my Windows Mobile 5, I had my Hotmail account in my Outlook. It looked just like any other email account. Now with WM6 on my Touch Pro, when I try to set up my Hotmail account, it just opens the web browser and take me to the Hotmail website, so I must log in there to get my emails. Just like any other webmail.
Is there a way to get Hotmail in my Outlook on WM6?
Have you tried logging into Messenger on the device? It should take you to the Windows Live setup screen, then select sync email (I disabled the sync contacts thing since it messed up my contacts). Hotmail should appear in your mail accounts then
Great! Thanks a lot, it worked
heya, I'm a first time wimo user and i tried to do the stuff you mentioned above, but it didn't work. I got into messenger, but it takes me straight to my contacts list. apart from that i couldn't find the option to sync the contact list. I accessed the messenger software through messages/messenger
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Have you tried logging into Messenger on the device? It should take you to the Windows Live setup screen, then select sync email (I disabled the sync contacts thing since it messed up my contacts). Hotmail should appear in your mail accounts then
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thanks for this, ur a star... this should be a sticky~!!! most annoying thing ever.
mputtr said:
heya, I'm a first time wimo user and i tried to do the stuff you mentioned above, but it didn't work. I got into messenger, but it takes me straight to my contacts list. apart from that i couldn't find the option to sync the contact list. I accessed the messenger software through messages/messenger
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While you were setting up your Messenger account there should be a screen that asks if you want to syncronise your Hotmail contacts and emails to your device. If you missed that you might need to re-do the signup process again.
actually, this does work but if u log out of messenger, the mailbox also disappears... hummm...... so its not a perm solution.
I encounter a similiar as you do. I have dl another version Windows Live from http://wl.windowsmobile.com, but you have to remove the HTC PRO existing version which have IM function, this one dl does not. [I use Ebuddy to connect my MSN instead.]
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I encounter a similiar as you do. I have dl another version Windows Live from http://wl.windowsmobile.com, but you have to remove the HTC PRO existing version which have IM function, this one dl does not. [I use Ebuddy to connect my MSN instead.]
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Thank You, this worked for me
Hotmail location
I checked through my installed programs and the only messaging client i can find is the one with msn aol and yahoo bundled together. is it possible i need to instal a cab to get the messenger w/ hotmail working, or iam i not looing in the correct directory on the fuze?
Try Windows Live Hotmail for Windows Mobile
http://www.gowindowslive.com/Mobile/Landing/HMforWM/Default.aspx?Locale=en-US
the link should take you to the download of the program. Once you install you can set up your hotmail account in you phone and it should go through a process of accepting terms and conditions, etc and then it should appear normally in your phone.
Hope this works.
only 50 e-mails ?
although i got my hotmail in my messages inbox i can only see the last 50 e-mail messages, when i synchronise my hotmail on my Pro it stops at 50, but if i remove 1 mail from my device and sync again then the device only downloads 1 more email to top up to 50..
all i want is ALL my emails downloaded at the same time, not max 50.
please help..
Email TF3D Tab> Inbox> Menu> Tools> Manage Folders> Inbox> Folder Options> Inbox Options.
More explanation on the bottom -Hope this helps-
Scroll to the "Email" TF3D tab. Once there, click "Inbox" (on the bottom to the left).
> Once inside your "Inbox", click "Menu" (on the bottom to the right).
> In the "Menu" box Highlight and select "Tools.
> The "Tools" box will bring another box, in it Highlight and select "Manage Folders".
> Once inside "Manage Folders" Tap and hold the "Inbox" folder.
> This brings a small box, Highlight and select "Folder Options" which will take ya to another screen Called "Inbox" options.
> Once there you can choose how many days to download or and whether the entire message or only its header.
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Have you tried logging into Messenger on the device? It should take you to the Windows Live setup screen, then select sync email (I disabled the sync contacts thing since it messed up my contacts). Hotmail should appear in your mail accounts then
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Does this work if you want to add more than one Hotmail accounts?
You can also use the beta @ http://www.seven.com which will let you have several hotmail accounts. I use it, and it works pretty well.
been trying it from last night but everytime I try to set up the email it keeps saying
Server busy...The server is busy now. Please try again. (108)
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tried it about 5 times since morning too
I've been trying to find a way to fix this...
Is there a way or a setting somewhere that stops the Tilt from downloading messages I send/reply or is that a setting a gmail. It is annoying when I reply to an email using the gmail web interface or with outlook on my PC, then my phone will download my mail as a new message. I don't really want to set up some sort of filter, since some times when I send an email, I will CC myself, but I am just annoyed by it downloading every single reply.
Uuuuuhhhhhhh o.k.
stop CC'ing yourself, just check your sent box... too simple or not complex enough a solution?
jiannichan said:
I've been trying to find a way to fix this...
Is there a way or a setting somewhere that stops the Tilt from downloading messages I send/reply or is that a setting a gmail. It is annoying when I reply to an email using the gmail web interface or with outlook on my PC, then my phone will download my mail as a new message. I don't really want to set up some sort of filter, since some times when I send an email, I will CC myself, but I am just annoyed by it downloading every single reply.
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Did you read the problem or not understand it? The problem is when I reply to emails, the Tilt will download it as a new message. Where did I state that I CC myself all the time? What does checking my sent messages have anything to do with what the Tilt is downloading?
little snippy...
Pretty sure you not only said it, but now you've highlighted the fact that you sometimes CC yourself on emails sent, so yes, you would receive a copy. You would check your sent box to view messages that you have sent rather than CC'ing yourself. Mighty snippy for someone asking for help. Are you using a threaded version of Gmail? that's the only reason I could think you would receive a copy of the conversation, aside from CC'ing yourself.
If you read it, it says SOMETIMES. My problem is EVERY email reply gets downloaded. The CCs aren't a problem and not something I am complaining about. I am complaining about all replies done by me being downloaded as a new email. My response to you would have been different if you actually replied like you read it what the problem was.
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Trying again, are you using a threaded style of Gmail or the true Gmail website?
Not really sure. I rarely ever use the gmail website unless I am at a different computer. Most of my email comes to my phone and PC, which I remote into during work and just use Outlook to respond if I can. I'll try to explain the problem better. I apologize, just having a hectic day at work.
When someone emails me, the Tilt will download the email.
I will reply back using the tilt, or Outlook on my PC, and every once in a while, the gmail web interface. NOT CCing myself.
Tilt then downloads again, my reply and puts it in my inbox.
The only time I CC myself, is when I send out a new email that I feel is important. I do this because I like to have a copy for myself, and I empty my sent box on a weekly basis.
Also, I just did a web search on this threaded gmail thing you were talking about. It appears that is a 'feature' in gmail and it can't be disabled. It puts my replys in a 'conversation' style so it thinks that my replies are new messages and just downloads them. I guess I just have to deal with it.
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Does ONLY the tilt capture all replies or do they also show up on your box at home and is this independant of from where you reply (home box or tilt)? Gmail uses a conversation view that shows reply messages as a long conversation would appear in MMS/SMS. I can't imagine that this would cause the problem but may be another piece to this puzzle.
Don't worry about my comments, I'm a smart-ass. Pretty much everyone is here to help and there are many more smart-assier (and just plain smarter) than me. Just roll with the punches and enjoy the website.
I must type slowly
I use Gmail and reply from my tilt as well, but have not had a problem. But i don't use a web app, I have gmail as a separate account that I access just like standard push-mail. What way do you use gmail?
Same problem
When I used my tilt I was having the same problem. I would send an email from my tilt (from a push account I had set up on the phone) and would receive a copy of the sent mail as a new message. I had that phone for 2 years and used various roms and could never stop it from doing so. It was very annoying to say the least. Some light on this matter would be awesome.
If I can, I just use email from the phone, or outlook on my PC if there is a large attachment. It only does it on the Tilt. My outlook on the PC is only showing up the emails from other people, and not myself. I can see on the web interface my replies though if I log on.
I have it set up on the Tilt as an account as well, so I am not using the gmail interface thru the phone. Not sure how I have it setup or if it is a seperate email software. I just click on messages and added the email account. It doesn't matter where I reply from. I also have a Yahoo account set up and it doesn't do this.
Also, the phone info:
Duttys WM6.1 build 19700
radio 1.65.14.06
I had this problem once and I was because I forget to change the "[email protected]" that I used during the initial setup back to my actual e-mail address.
I just fixed the issue. I deleted the account from the phone and recreated a new one and set it up as IMAP. I think the issue at first was because I had it set up and let the phone download the settings for me and it configured it as POP. This time, I set up everything manually and tested it out and it appears to be fine now.