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...so I am compelled to root. ALL I care about is unlocking that other 256 (himem, I think it's called) for use and apps2sd would be nice but not necessary. Any other practical enhancements would be welcome. I'm using build ERE27. So which ROM fits that description best and where are the easiest instructions with links to download? I have been all over this and other sites and there are so many tutorials and none seem identical. Try Youtube and you know what you get? The most popular root tutorial (by far) flat out tells you from the start "This is not for beginners". Well, where the **** is the one for the beginners? I've jailbroken Iphones and flashed ROM's on to WM devices but I've never seen a more convoluted method to implementing a ROM replacement for a phone. Step by step (with backup reminders at critical times during process) would be great.
For example (from CyanogenMod):
Before continuing, you should first copy all the necessary files to your SD Card. Doing so will make the entire process much easier and faster.
Files you will need:
Download the latest release of CyanogenMod for the Nexus One and the Google Addon from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623496
Download the latest release of Amon_Ra's Nexus One Recovery Image from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611829
Rename Amon_Ra's recovery file "Recovery.img", and copy all three files to the root of your SD Card
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I'm sorry, did you not just provide me with 2 files to download? Where does the third come from? And why does every "Link" lead to a full page with 3700 more links rather than just a freaking file to download??
Even Droiddog uses a Mac during the process because a PC would have been far too convenient for the masses (Plus I don't want the Desire ROM-too borky).
Preparing myself beforehand (going through the motions of the root without rooting) led to me opening 7 windows instead of direct file downloads. 7 Windows. 7. Does it really have to be this arduous?
I'm sorry for the frustration but deciding to root was suppose to be the hard part. Now I'm just overwhelmed with the unnecessary difficulty of it all. In truth, I'll probably be posting "thanks" from a rooted N1 by tomorrow and wondering what was so hard about all of that.......or I'll be crying over a $530 brick in my hands.
I believe Cyanogen mod (latest version in the link) includes the himem by default, just install that and you'll get the more available RAM (unless there is more steps to the process), I do not use Cyanogen.
Please note this is not the iphone OS we are dealing with here, things will not be as simple as a button press.. I honestly do not know what a "noob guide" is when it comes to Android, it all seems so straightforward to me... If I rooted my G1 and I'm only 13, not even being a nerd at that (wouldn't care if I was though..), I would imagine it not being hard for anyone..
At least the ram thing can be fixed with an ota. It looks like the multitouch problem is hardware. I feel like the ram, choppy scrolling, weird picture quality and image issue should really be solved by now by official update. I can see stringing us along for software upgrades like cupcake, new market, etc...but software fixes should be released asap. Any eta on the nexus 2?
DMaverick50 said:
At least the ram thing can be fixed with an ota. It looks like the multitouch problem is hardware. I feel like the ram, choppy scrolling, weird picture quality and image issue should really be solved by now by official update. I can see stringing us along for software upgrades like cupcake, new market, etc...but software fixes should be released asap. Any eta on the nexus 2?
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Choppy scrolling is just that launcher2, and has nothing to do with the actual phone hardware which is a good thing. I went back to an older 2.0 launcher that is MUCH MUCH faster with continuous scroll.
I will switch if continuous scroll is added to launcher2, but yeah that choppiness stinks
It's a bug the iPhone had its bugs too. One of the great things about rooting your phone is not having to wait for Google to fix bugs the devs here do it nice and quick. I waited a month then rooted my phone and I am happy I did.
Prod1702 said:
I waited a month then rooted my phone and I am happy I did.
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Does the extra 256 of ram make a noticeable difference in the overall speed and experience of the device (you should know having gone a month with stock on it)?
I didn't know CM rom unlocked the RAM you are talking about. I thought we were still waiting on an update from google for that.
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I didn't know CM rom unlocked the RAM you are talking about. I thought we were still waiting on an update from google for that.
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Is this true?
CM mode unlocks a good upgrade portion of the ram, for example with 10 apps Open I used to have 60 or less MBS left of ram, after CM upgrade with Kspec theme, i have 10 similar apps open and have 200+mbs of ram left, dont believe me? I actually made a video while still pretty shocked, check it, might as well rate and sub. I think I had 230+mbs while 10-12 apps running
www.youtube.com/user/exclusivegslick = my only video.
Ok to answer a few of your questions:
Does CyanMod include more ram? YES. This bump up in ram is included in the Kernel, and all of the newest roms have this including the undervolted/overclocked kernel's as well.
You get about 400mbs after the free up.
The Three Files:
Google had to go after Cyanogen so he HAD to seperate "google apps addon" from his mod. OTHER ROMS will include Google apps in most cases. So CYanogenmod = 2 files.
Ok here is a quick summary that will hopefully help the other guides make more sense. USE THE OTHER GUIDES STILL this is a conceptual map.
1) Install Android SDK to your COMPUTER which gives you ADB and the windows drivers. The drivers can also be downloaded via another thread. Search drivers/sdk drivers/adb drivers etc..
2) Download/install Fastboot to your COMPUTER
3) Download Amon Ra Recovery 1.6.3 to your Fastboot FOLDER on computer
4) Download CyanogenMOD 5.0.4.1 to the ROOT(VERY TOP LVL) directory of your SD CARD.
5) In same post, Download Google APPS 36ERE thing to ROOT of your SD CARD.
*This gives you all of the proper stuff. Make sure you get ADB SDK drivers loaded I stumbled here and wasted a couple of hours*
6) Unlock bootloader via fastboot. This is a command given from your Computer in DOS prompt in the folder you created with fastboot stuff. Your phone is connected and you are in the BOOTLoader. READ the guides for exact directions or the androidandme video, or countless other things.
7) Install Amon Ra's Recovery while still in FASTBOOT from a command via your computer. Follow guides or even first post on Amon Ra's Thread.
8) Now that you are unlocked. Go into RECOVERY which is done via the bootloader. Guide will give exact direction.
9) **** MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP **** just get in the habit. It is your FAIL SAFE. This in theory makes a nandroid backup of your "stock but unlocked" setup. I always "RE" nandroid backup before making changes or when I "Like" my setup. Command is in recovery.
10) WIPE data via recovery command.
11) FLASH from ZIP - pick Cyanogenmod5.0.4.1 (file you dl'ed to your sd card)
12) Flash from ZIP - GAPPS(googleapps) (file you dl'ed to your sd card)
REBOOT the phone. VOILA. Your done.
Important notes. If you decide, IFFFF, to update the radio. NEVER EVER EVER EVER pull the battery. MD5CheckSUM the radio download. and Repeat NEVER EVER EVER EVER pull the battery until the radio is entirely installed. It can take awhile. This is how you BRICK your phone.
Anyways. that is a real high lvl overview but maybe puts things in perspective easier.
btw you actually have less than half of the total RAM & ROM usable on a stock n1.
I would love to post a cyanogen guide...but haven't rooted yet. I believe he has a wiki with steps too.
britoso said:
btw you actually have less than half of the total RAM & ROM usable on a stock n1.
I would love to post a cyanogen guide...but haven't rooted yet. I believe he has a wiki with steps too.
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Same here. I'm temped every day to root and unlock the benefits, but I don't know if it's worth voiding my warranty :\
I know what you mean with the "this is not for beginners", it was annoying because, even cyanogen had to unlock his first android phone some time. I followed that guide anyway, after doing as much research as possible. It didnt work though, i could not go straight from unlocking the bootloader to installing amon_ra's recovery, i had to install superboot first. I was hoping for a 30 minute root job, but it ended up taking about 4 hours all up.
I think the stock android kernel is .29 Which only recognises 256mb ram, cyanogen's mod is on the .32 then the .33 kernel which is a highmem kernel, by flashing cyanogenmod you are automatically unlocking the extra ram, no other work is required.
Also, i would suggest sticking with the ERE27 radio, i personally have no problems with reception with it, also if you don't flash the radio, your chances of bricking your phone are very very very low. If you want to do the radio, you can flash it later, when you are more experienced.
seanowns said:
The Three Files:
Google had to go after Cyanogen so he HAD to seperate "google apps addon" from his mod. OTHER ROMS will include Google apps in most cases. So CYanogenmod = 2 files.
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I downloaded the Android SDK
2) Download/install Fastboot to your COMPUTER
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Where is fastboot?
Do I have to do this? : (from Cyanogen's Wiki)
Instructions from Android Developers and ADB, Fastboot, and Nandroid for Noob
Download the latest Android SDK.
Unzip to C:\AndroidSDK
Right-click on (My) Computer, and select Properties
Go to Advanced settings
XP: Click the Advanced tab
Vista/7: Click Advanced system settings on the left
Click the Environment Variables button
double-click on Path (under System Variables)
Add the full path to the tools/ directory:
C:\AndroidSDK\tools\
(make sure a semicolon ( separates this new path from all the others) Latest windows version appears to need: "C:\AndroidSDK\android-sdk-windows\tools", install location may have changed. (sorry I don't know how to format this correctly!)
Run C:\AndroidSDK\SDK Setup.exe
If it gives you an error go to settings and click on "Force http//....."
Unselect all options except for the USB driver
If you can't get the setup to work, download the USB-DRIVERS folder - HERE (Windows XP/Vista/Windows 7)
On your phone, click Settings > Applications > Development and make sure USB Debugging is on.
Plug your phone into your computer via USB cable (it needs to be on). It should say installing drivers if using Windows.
After it installs the drivers, goto the Start menu and type cmd into the search bar (Vista or higher) or click Run then type in cmd (XP) to open the command prompt.
Type the following into the command prompt window:adb devices
You should see a serial number pop up, it’s the serial number of your phone. This means you are all set. If you do NOT see a serial number, then we need to reinstall the drivers.
Download USBDeview
While the phone is still plugged in, open USBDeview and sort by manufacturer. Find all the HTC/Android drivers and uninstall them all. (Windows Vista requires program to be run as an administrator, otherwise files won't uninstall.)
Once all have been uninstalled, unplug the phone from the USB cable and plug it back in.
The correct drivers should reinstall automatically (check the drivers as they are installing, one should say ADB Device driver).
To check, go to Devices in your Start menu then click on the “Android Phone”. Click on the Hardware tab, and check the list of drivers for ADB Interface under Type.
Done! Now you can use ADB to alter your phone from your computer.
I have Amon RA Recovery Image.
4) Download CyanogenMOD 5.0.4.1 to the ROOT(VERY TOP LVL) directory of your SD CARD.
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Please go to the Cyanogen Page and tell me where that is. The only link that states CyanogenMOD 5.0.4.1 will lead to another tab opening with the exact same page as the one you just left. Check for yourself: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623496
5) In same post, Download Google APPS 36ERE thing to ROOT of your SD CARD.
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Is this the file underneath the CyanogenMOD that is named Google ION? It does the exact same thing that the CyanogenMOD file does when you click it. Re-opens that same page in another browser.
I have no problem following the instructions once there is a clear link to the files one actually needs to complete this process. I'm not trying to be difficult, the ability to root to Cyanogen on xda developers is, right now, broken.
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I downloaded the Android SDK
Where is fastboot?
Do I have to do this? : (from Cyanogen's Wiki)
Instructions from Android Developers and ADB, Fastboot, and Nandroid for Noob
Download the latest Android SDK.
Unzip to C:\AndroidSDK
Right-click on (My) Computer, and select Properties
Go to Advanced settings
XP: Click the Advanced tab
Vista/7: Click Advanced system settings on the left
Click the Environment Variables button
double-click on Path (under System Variables)
Add the full path to the tools/ directory:
C:\AndroidSDK\tools\
(make sure a semicolon ( separates this new path from all the others) Latest windows version appears to need: "C:\AndroidSDK\android-sdk-windows\tools", install location may have changed. (sorry I don't know how to format this correctly!)
Run C:\AndroidSDK\SDK Setup.exe
If it gives you an error go to settings and click on "Force http//....."
Unselect all options except for the USB driver
If you can't get the setup to work, download the USB-DRIVERS folder - HERE (Windows XP/Vista/Windows 7)
On your phone, click Settings > Applications > Development and make sure USB Debugging is on.
Plug your phone into your computer via USB cable (it needs to be on). It should say installing drivers if using Windows.
After it installs the drivers, goto the Start menu and type cmd into the search bar (Vista or higher) or click Run then type in cmd (XP) to open the command prompt.
Type the following into the command prompt window:adb devices
You should see a serial number pop up, it’s the serial number of your phone. This means you are all set. If you do NOT see a serial number, then we need to reinstall the drivers.
Download USBDeview
While the phone is still plugged in, open USBDeview and sort by manufacturer. Find all the HTC/Android drivers and uninstall them all. (Windows Vista requires program to be run as an administrator, otherwise files won't uninstall.)
Once all have been uninstalled, unplug the phone from the USB cable and plug it back in.
The correct drivers should reinstall automatically (check the drivers as they are installing, one should say ADB Device driver).
To check, go to Devices in your Start menu then click on the “Android Phone”. Click on the Hardware tab, and check the list of drivers for ADB Interface under Type.
Done! Now you can use ADB to alter your phone from your computer.
I have Amon RA Recovery Image.
Please go to the Cyanogen Page and tell me where that is. The only link that states CyanogenMOD 5.0.4.1 will lead to another tab opening with the exact same page as the one you just left. Check for yourself: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623496
Is this the file underneath the CyanogenMOD that is named Google ION? It does the exact same thing that the CyanogenMOD file does when you click it. Re-opens that same page in another browser.
I have no problem following the instructions once there is a clear link to the files one actually needs to complete this process. I'm not trying to be difficult, the ability to root to Cyanogen on xda developers is, right now, broken.
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Cyanogen has moved the download to the CyanogenMod web page.
If you have sdk, and fastboot, on you machine and you have already put on amon-ra recovery, then you should be set to go.
Go to Cyanogen Mod.com and click the link to download the latest stable release. If you are in the US. I recommend that you get the new ERE36B radio. You should flash it as well. Just read up on flashing radios and plug in your phone, dont pull the battery during the radio flash and always md5sum a radio image no matter what. The radio is the only area where flashing has the potential to be dangerous.
Good luck and welcome to the Cyanogen World, you will never go back!
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Cyanogen has moved the download to the CyanogenMod web page.
If you have sdk, and fastboot, on you machine and you have already put on amon-ra recovery, then you should be set to go.
Go to Cyanogen Mod.com and click the link to download the latest stable release. If you are in the US. I recommend that you get the new ERE36B radio. You should flash it as well. Just read up on flashing radios and plug in your phone, dont pull the battery during the radio flash and always md5sum a radio image no matter what. The radio is the only area where flashing has the potential to be dangerous.
Good luck and welcome to the Cyanogen World, you will never go back!
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What is the difference between the Cyanogen's N1 Addon which I am getting from this tutorial:
http://androidandme.com/2010/01/hacks/video-how-to-unlock-and-root-a-nexus-one/
and the ROMS available on this page (and which one do I download. There's a dozen!)
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/downloads/rom
Where do I download the radio and why is ERE36B better in the USA? A poster above said I should stay with the one I have (27).
addon - vs mod
whodatfever said:
What is the difference between the Cyanogen's N1 Addon which I am getting from this tutorial:
http://androidandme.com/2010/01/hacks/video-how-to-unlock-and-root-a-nexus-one/
and the ROMS available on this page (and which one do I download. There's a dozen!)
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/downloads/rom
Where do I download the radio and why is ERE36B better in the USA? A poster above said I should stay with the one I have (27).
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The add-on was what Cyanogen made before google released the source code for android 2.1. It is not a full custom rom.
The ROM's ie. 5.0.4.1 is all the Cyanogen tweaks, highmem etc. 360 degree rotation (left right and upside down if you enable it) and all sorts of stuff.
You really should try both radios and see which one works better for you. Some people have better results with one and some the other. I have the best continuous 3G/HSPDA signal with the ERE36B radio.
On Cyanogen mod forum, go to nexus one and there is a link to get the latest stable ROM 5.0.4.1 that is what you want. You have to also download the Google add-on.
Cyan used to include them but got a nice letter from google telling him he was not allowed to "optimize" their stuff. So he puts it in a separate package as is, and you have to flash it after you flash his rom to get the google apps.
Google apps will be called: gapps-passionERE36B(2) or something very similar.
I am willing to answer any questions you have just send me a pm.
andythefan said:
Same here. I'm temped every day to root and unlock the benefits, but I don't know if it's worth voiding my warranty :\
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there is a thread here about your warranty and as long as you have a problem that is a legit hardware defect HTC has been replacing them, dust under screen bad battery, and a few other things.
GR8Gorilla. Thank you for all of this. It was a convoluted mess trying to decipher some of the tutorials. I am very grateful and am starting the process in a few minutes. I'll let you know how it goes and thank you again.
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GR8Gorilla. Thank you for all of this. It was a convoluted mess trying to decipher some of the tutorials. I am very grateful and am starting the process in a few minutes. I'll let you know how it goes and thank you again.
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Remember if and when you flash the radio, plug in phone, and whatever you do, do not pull the battery while it is doing the radio. That is the biggest NO NO. It can make a nice nexus One paperweight. As long as you dont pull the battery you will be fine. I have flashed mine about 4 or 5 times....and I have flashed roms about 1000 times.
The phone is going to reboot a couple of times during a radio flash, be patient.
Okay I don't know if this will help anyone, but I figured out how to stop Windows from detecting the phone as two USB drives when the phone goes into Recovery mode, and to make it show up as Android Composite ADB device.
I do NOT have HTC installed, rather, I'm using the USB 3 drivers that come down through the SDK, so I'm not sure how to do this if you are using the HTC Sync drivers intead.
At any rate, start with the phone off and disconnected. Open the Device Manager. Boot with your prefered method into Recovery mode, then connect the phone. It should detect as USB Mass Storage Device under Universal Serial Bus Controllers. Right click on USB Mass Storage Device and click Uninstall and then OK. Once this is done, disconnect the phone (you can leave it running in Recovery).
Open My Computer and navigate to C:\Windows\inf. Copy the files usbstor.inf and usbstor.pnf to your desktop or wherever, it doesn't matter, just make sure you put them somewhere you can get them later. Then delete them from the C:\Windows\inf folder. These are the drivers that Windows automatically uses for USB storage devices.
Ok, now bring Device Manager back to the foreground and plug the phone back in in Recovery. It should show up as Android Phone with an exclamation mark. If Device Wizard pops up cancel out of it. Now right click on the Android Phone and click update driver. Click Browse my computer for driver software. Click Let me pick from a list... Click Android Phone and Next. Click Have Disk. Browse to your SDK folder into the USB Drivers folder and you should see android_winusb.inf, select that then click OK. You should now have a list of three items to select, this part I am not sure if there is a 'right' or a 'wrong' but I go with Android Composite ADB Interface.
Select that or whichever one you think and this is what it will install as. Bingo, now whenever you connect the phone into Recovery or boot into Recovery with it already connect it correctly detects as the Composite ADB Interface or whichever you selected, but does NOT show up as any USB drives.
Unfortunately... I still could not get ADB Shell to connect (I even went out and bought a 2GB PNY card).... so I don't know if this will help any of you but I figure it's one step closer to what we need to happen.
At any rate, to get everything back to normal as far as your computer being able to use USB storage devices just copy those two files back to the inf folder before you connect them and you should be fine.
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Unfortunately... I still could not get ADB Shell to connect (I even went out and bought a 2GB PNY card).... so I don't know if this will help any of you but I figure it's one step closer to what we need to happen.
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Format it LONG Fat32, 1024k allocation, name it TEST, put PB31IMG.zip (downgrade ROM) on it, power on into bootloader holding volume down until you get to volume up to start upgrade, run the downgrade from Bootloader, then immediately reboot with holding the track button switch into Fastboot menu, power to Bootloader, let the card check run, decline upgrade this time, run your loop.bat or loop.sh if you like linux, power the phone into recovery boot, and prepare yourself to be happy--I think that will work. The whole trick is get a card/format that forces recovery into an ADB-available mode.
Or you could try what I've done 7 times and achieved ADB Shell 7 times...
1. Turn the phone off.
2. Start running Loop.bat
3. Unplug USB cable.
4. Turn device on in Fastboot by holding in the optical joystick and power.
5. Plug USB in.
6. Hit power button once to get to HBOOT.
7. Wait two seconds for it to do it's thing.
8. Pull off the back of the phone.
9. Hit Vol - to Recovery then hit power.
10. Immediately after doing this continuously push the sd card in and out (about every .5 - .75 seconds)
11. ?????
12. Profit
@DigitalDementia--
How is what you said relevant in this thread?
bast525 said:
Unfortunately... I still could not get ADB Shell to connect (I even went out and bought a 2GB PNY card).... so I don't know if this will help any of you but I figure it's one step closer to what we need to happen.
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drtrmiller said:
@DigitalDementia--
How is what you said relevant in this thread?
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Pretty positive it had everything to do with that section of the first post, he said he still couldn't achieve root I attempted to help him. Why don't you explain to me exactly what it doesn't have to do with this thread?
rynosaur said:
Format it LONG Fat32, 1024k allocation, name it TEST, put PB31IMG.zip (downgrade ROM) on it, power on into bootloader holding volume down until you get to volume up to start upgrade, run the downgrade from Bootloader, then immediately reboot with holding the track button switch into Fastboot menu, power to Bootloader, let the card check run, decline upgrade this time, run your loop.bat or loop.sh if you like linux, power the phone into recovery boot, and prepare yourself to be happy--I think that will work. The whole trick is get a card/format that forces recovery into an ADB-available mode.
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The real bummer here - and I should have known better, really - is that this wipes your phone.
I suppose it should be obvious, but take it from someone who's pretty new to Android phones and just wiped their entire phone after following your steps: Please add a warning to your original post.
It's late, I'm tired and irritated, but I'm sort of bummed to know I went from hero to zero in trying to enter shell (again) during recovery all in an effort to get proper perm. root. Sort of ****ty to know that I just lost everything.
still no root
I'm sorry, I shouldn't have assumed people knew an IMG flash from bootloader wipes user data. Believe me, that's not the only time you'll wipe if you keep modding
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USB drives are ok in recovery
When I am in recovery with adb and working correctly it still shows the 2 USB drives so this is normal and ok, what you have done is fool yourself into thinking that your phone is in correct mode but it really is not, this is why it still does not work, sorry.
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I'm sorry, I shouldn't have assumed people knew an IMG flash from bootloader wipes user data. Believe me, that's not the only time you'll wipe if you keep modding
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Now that I've scorched the earth, I'm hitting this thing hard with every trick I can think of to get the shell in recovery again.
Thankfully, I at least have my app list on appbrain.
After researching around the different forums, I think this maybe my issue. I will have to make this attempt when I get home.
This is what I posted on a different forum. I am not sure if this is a similar experience you were having:
So, for a little a bit I was having issues with finding and modding the usb.inf file. I got that finally resolved... Now as I go to one of the first parts of the procedure, executing the adb shell command. Well at first it said the 2 lines, about the daemon and whatever the second line was. Anyways, the third line did not say "no device found" it went straight to a shell prompt "$" . The instructions made a point in the instructions for it to say " no device found" .
I went ahead with the rest of the instructions. No Luck. And I did both methods. A co-worker of mine told to run adb devices to see if my phone is recognized. I will also make that attempt tonight.
I wanted to know if any of you had some insight. I made sure I was in the right directory.
I will make another attempt on a different machine tonight.
Thanks. Oh yeah, I do have some UNIX experience if that makes a difference.
I had the same problem, used this method here
addictivetips.com/windows-tips/how-to-disable-automatic-driver-installation-in-windows-vista/
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Seemed to help me with the dumb usb mass storage devices whilst in recovery
I don't know how I missed this thread earlier though, It had been a problem for me for days!
kentoe said:
I had the same problem, used this method here
Seemed to help me with the dumb usb mass storage devices whilst in recovery
I don't know how I missed this thread earlier though, It had been a problem for me for days!
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I rooted in Windows, rather than linux, simply because I like the look of MejDam's procedure better than the linux script posted here on XDA--and his windows procedure is accompanied by his YouTube video
Long story short: I had ADB Composite Device AND the two storage volumes mounted together, as I got shell, and did the other steps in recovery. NB: they were mounted as Generic Storage Volumes, not writeable partitions. The stock recovery on DI does not allow host to mount either partions, although I'd like to see if
Code:
mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1
worked for the SDcard on the sdcard, cuz then it would be a cinch to mount sdcard/emnc partition into host OS--windows, linux, Atari 2600, etc Worth a try.
Anyhow, my conclusion: a bad driver setup could be a barrier to catching adb shell, but it is certain not the prevailing problem for most, IMHO.
Was wondering if bast525(the creator of the thread) was ever able to adb shell while in recovery, and if so what did you do thanks.
Heh, I wish.... I've tried just about every method posted on these forums, and five different SD cards from Sandisk, PNY, and Kingston. The only thing I haven't tried is rolling back to the pre OTA update, because I don't want to wipe the phone at this point.
This is my attempt at a Bell FAQ, it is a work in progress.
Q. Why don't the instructions I found on how to do X not work?A. This is a development forum, sometimes things are written in shorthand assuming you know things you don't. At lot of things are specific to one carrier's phone or another. Sometimes things change and are now obsolete, something new was found, a better way of doing things, if you were not following it all along you are likely to be lost. Read between the lines, you are a human being with reasoning abilities, figure it out. Q. What should I do first?
A. Backup your phone. That means everything, especially your pds partition. Nandroid won't cut it and you have already modified your phone beyond the ability to get back if you can run it.
Ex. dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p3 of=/sdcard/backup/mmcblk0p3
Save your backup on your computer, create a zip of all the files, burn it off on cd/dvd, put it in a safety deposit box at your bank. Be prepared for bricking your phone. A lot of things mentioned in threads here are developed and tested for ATT phones, they may not work 100% on your phone.Q. What is ADB?A. It stands for Android Debug Bridge or something like that. It is a program that runs on your computer that lets you talk to your phone using special commands. Your phone has to have adb enabled, it's a setting under application/development.
Ex. adb shell
This opens a linux shell connected to your phone. Linux is an operating system for computers, it is also used as the base for android phones.
Ex. adb install file.apk
Ex. adb push file /tmp
Ex. adb pull /tmp/file .
Q. What is CWM recovery?A. Android phones come with a special boot configuration that allows for changes to the android system from a place outside the system. It is very corporate and does the job for official signed updates, but only Motorola and it's oems can sign the updates. Not much fun for us. CWM recovery is a replacement for the official recovery system that doesn't require signed updates.
You install CWM recovery using fastboot or moto-fastboot.Q. What is unlocking the bootloader all about?A. It is the means of putting CWM recovery on your phone so you can install roms and other packages. It allows you to flash a partition with mods and have the phone not soft brick when you reboot. When the unlocked versions of the atrix bootloader were found it started a new round of mods. A lot of the threads prior to that are now obsolete.Q. How do I unlock the bootloader?A. There is a huge thread already about this, see here.
WARNING: this is a permanent change to your phone.
Summary:
1. Download the archive
2. Extract the sbf inside, whatever it's called, that is the one to use.
3. Use linux sbf_flash or rsdlite from windows to install it.
3. fastboot oem unlock
4. Copy code fastboot spits out.
5. fastboot oem unlock code
6. fastboot reboot
You will see unlocked while booting and when you get into android you will have ~300MB of ram. This will need to be fixed. Also, you will lose all your data during the process, do a backup first.Q. What is fastboot/moto-fastboot?A. It's a program to access the phone and do stuff, write phone partition images mostly. The stock one can only handle tiny system images, pretty useless for the Atrix, xda member eval- compiled the motorola version for us that can handle larger system images, do a search for moto-fastboot.
Ex. moto-fastboot flash recovery recovery.img.Q. How do I fix the ram problem?A. I did up a CWM recovery zip to update the boot and recovery partitions to contain a kernel command line with the missing bit "[email protected]" added. See here.
There are other means of doing this, some boot images come prepackaged with the command line already embedded. There are ATT compiled kernels with a patch inside the kernel itself to do the same thing. You can search for those when you are ready to try things like custom ATT kernels on your phone.Q. How do I root the phone?A. If you are unlocked and you have fastboot flashed a version of CWM recovery, it is trivial. By that I mean almost impossible for newbies to figure out.
It would go something like this:
1. Boot into CWM recovery.
2. use adb shell
3. adb push a su binary to the phone.
4. mount system as read write as /system
5. copy su binary to /system/bin
6. make sure it has the right permissions, 06755 mode , user root, group root.
7. unmount -l /system
8. when in android look on the market for Superuser.apk, install.
Every rooting method out there is all about putting su into /system/bin with 06755 permissions, most don't work anymore since Gingerbread. If you are looking for a simple, no brain involved solution, you are likely to get something working and also something else you didn't want like a replaced preinstall partition or an installed busybox with different functionality for some important system commands. (Busybox may be more up to date even, but if it doesn't do what is expected of the older version, it's still not good.)
Another way would be to create a CWM zip that simply puts the linux su binary in system with the correct permissions. Some info about creating your own can be found here. Doing this is more involved that just doing it manually, but it would be a good practice for getting into creating CWM updates.
Here is a link to a exploit someone did up to root the phone when running GB. Haven't tested it, and with an unlocked phone it is totally redundant, but it's nice that some found yet another security hole in the OS, seems similar in result to psneuter, so be sure to reboot the phone to fix the exploited system.
Seriously, if you are going to be reading or posting in the development section of xda for an android phone, take the 5 minutes to become familiar with adb and a few linux shell commands, it will save you hours of confusion and aggravation. If you fly blind trying things on your phone without understanding what you are doing you are eventually going to get into a place you can't get out of and need a new phone or REALLY have to struggle to understand things. You were warned. Q. How do I get back to stock?
A. You can't unless you have a backup of all your phone partitions and can update your radio and bootloader to be stock. Once you unlock your phone, it is recorded that you did so by blowing a physical fuse on the phone. This cannot be restored, you will need a new phone.
What does stock mean to you? When I bought my phone it had a certain radio, the bootloader couldn't be unlocked, the android system files had certain versions, etc. Beyond the android system there are 18 partitions that I know of on the phone, most phones do with 5-6. Every ota update or sbf files take the normal files and change them to something else, non android partitions get modified or replaced.
I have some solutions for getting close to stock, do a search for Gobstopper. There is one for Bell 2.2.2 and Bell 2.3.4, use one or the other. These attempt a full back to stock operation, that means the radio and bootloader will be stock, recovery will be stock as well. (All the partitions that are on the phone are written over with the ones that were on my phone when I bought it, with the exception of partitions 3 (pds), 15 (cache), 16 (data), and 18 (userdata or internal memory), factory reset clears cache and data, you don't want pds touched or internal memory.) Unlocked will no longer be displayed when you boot and you will no longer have CWM recovery installed. You will need to install the unlocked bootloader again and fastboot flash recovery again if stock is not what you wanted. (Your pds partition is not involved in this operation, so if you made changes to it, either directly or indirectly via a sbf this will not restore it, your pds partition contains individual phone information.)
More about sbf format here.Q. What does the pds partition taste like?A. It's not really fit to eat. Now you know.
It is mmcblk0p3, a partition on your phone, it is mounted as /pds when android boots and contains a bunch of folders and files that nobody really understands fully but Motorola. Having a look at some of the files you will see things like your network physical address, bluetooth physical address. You will find threads where the display is all arsed up, cpu running at half speed, touch screen not working right, etc, all due to something going wrong with /pds. It is best to back it up and not mess with it. Restore it in an emergency. Maybe one day everything in there will be figured out, take a stab at it yourself.
See this thread by edgan for how to back up your pds partition.
See this thread by KeRmiT80 about attempting to fix your pds partition. Good motivation to see previous link.
Q. I lost network data access after flashing X.
A. Check your APN list, if it's not a Bell firmware you are using, it probably doesn't have Bell's APN list. Scratch that, you don't know what that is or how to check it.
It stands for Access Point Name and a big list of them is stored on your phone in one big file (/system/etc/apns-conf.xml), each firmware has it's own version of it. Your phone will get two numbers from your carrier's phone network to do a look up in this list to figure out what configuration to use. So say it gets mcc 302, mcn 610, it will check the phone and look up 302, 610 in the file and read what it says there and use that config to try to connect. Now, another thing is that the phone knows what the home network is by these two numbers, embedded somewhere in the system. A foreign, non Bell carrier won't have Bell's numbers in there so your phone will think it's roaming. If you have roaming disabled, guess what, no data connection. Your carrier should be smart enough not to charge you for roaming, never had a problem with that, but you never know.
Here are the apn settings you can enter manually for your phone, see Bell's support link.
Q. How do I get webtop over HDMI to work?
A. There are several threads on getting this to work on ATT phones and others, they are specific to the firmware being run on the phone. They involve copying two deodexed files to your system/app folder and replacing the ones already there. You will also need to clear your dalvik cache to get the new code recognized. They are DockService.apk and PortalApp.apk. If you are not deodexed then you also have to remove the .odex files for both.
Here is one thread for Gingerbread, in the zip there is one for ORFR that will get you to viewing the webtop on Bell GB, but applications don't load.
Here is another thread for Froyo that works, see the Bell specific bit in the OP. This does not work from Bell Gingerbread. To be continued...
Hoping the Mods sticky this
A link should be attached to the wiki as well. I will try to when I get home if it isn't done already.
shouldn't this be in general? or q&a?
Magnetox said:
shouldn't this be in general? or q&a?
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Probably both. Most things referenced are in development.
Cheers!
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Hoping the Mods sticky this
A link should be attached to the wiki as well. I will try to when I get home if it isn't done already.
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+1 this should be a sticky on either or both general or development...
cheers for this...this thread is going to help me with my youtube viewers BIG TIME!!
Very nice!
Keep it up NFHimself!
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This is my attempt at a Bell FAQ, it is a work in progress.
Q. How do I root the phone?A. If you are unlocked and you have fastboot flashed a version of CWM recovery, it is trivial. By that I mean almost impossible for newbies to figure out.
It would go something like this:
1. Boot into CWM recovery.
2. use adb shell
3. adb push a su binary to the phone.
4. mount system as read write as /system
5. copy su binary to /system/bin
6. make sure it has the right permissions, 06755 mode , user root, group root.
7. unmount -l /system
8. when in android look on the market for Superuser.apk, install.
Every rooting method out there is all about putting su into /system/bin with 06755 permissions, most don't work anymore since Gingerbread. If you are looking for a simple, no brain involved solution, you are likely to get something working and also something else you didn't want like a replaced preinstall partition or an installed busybox with different functionality for some important system commands. (Busybox may be more up to date even, but if it doesn't do what is expected of the older version, it's still not good.) To be continued...
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I used this method to root the stock Bell Gingerbread ROM. Works on an Atrix too. It's a quick download and easy for those people who may not be comfortable with the adb command line.
http://www.psouza4.com/Bionic/
thx
useful for newbies
but can you put some more details about returning to stock and explain the pds partition in details plz?
papakilo10 said:
I used this method to root the stock Bell Gingerbread ROM. Works on an Atrix too. It's a quick download and easy for those people who may not be comfortable with the adb command line.
http://www.psouza4.com/Bionic/
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Had a look at the script in that one, should be fine, doesn't install a busybox or anything like that. I don't care for Superuser.apk in /system/app myself, but it won't harm anything having it there.
Cheers!
ytwytw said:
thx
useful for newbies
but can you put some more details about returning to stock and explain the pds partition in details plz?
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I added a few things, anything in particular you wanted?
I am trying to avoid step by step tutorials or spoon feeding everything, so people who are lazy/careless will have to attempt to think for themselves. It just leads to more questions, more laziness, and bricked phones, and I don't have the time these days.
Cheers!
editi guess sdcard is incorrect/confusing for my situation, it's the entire system up to root folders is stuck in a read-only type state.
I didn't really see anything that fits my current problem (sorry if there is an answer somewhere buried in here)
So to start off with info, I installed Android on the TP back in February for my fiancée just for the basics of email, videoplayer, comic reader, internet browsing. Nothing too extravagant, just something with more to offer than webos.
I never did any updates on it because it worked perfectly fine for what it was being used on.
I've changed out the video selection many times as she watches through the shows with no problems.
Now I go to change the files and I delete them, add the new stuff, all seems fine. Then I unmount it and everything I deleted is back and everything I added is gone. I've uninstalled apps and they come back, I've done updates to apps and they revert back to before the update.
I've gone into CMW and done the wipes and even formatted sdcard, cache, etc. Nothing works. Even mounting USB in CWM to add files gives the same result of them disappearing right after it is unmounted.
I've tried ACMEUnistaller but it doesn't work. I saw something flash by the screen about something failing, but it goes too fast to even really see what it's about.
Sorry this is so long. I appreciate any insight!
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Build Number
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plasticsoldier said:
I didn't really see anything that fits my current problem (sorry if there is an answer somewhere buried in here)
So to start off with info, I installed Android on the TP back in February for my fiancée just for the basics of email, videoplayer, comic reader, internet browsing. Nothing too extravagant, just something with more to offer than webos.
I never did any updates on it because it worked perfectly fine for what it was being used on.
I've changed out the video selection many times as she watches through the shows with no problems.
Now I go to change the files and I delete them, add the new stuff, all seems fine. Then I unmount it and everything I deleted is back and everything I added is gone. I've uninstalled apps and they come back, I've done updates to apps and they revert back to before the update.
I've gone into CMW and done the wipes and even formatted sdcard, cache, etc. Nothing works. Even mounting USB in CWM to add files gives the same result of them disappearing right after it is unmounted.
I've tried ACMEUnistaller but it doesn't work. I saw something flash by the screen about something failing, but it goes too fast to even really see what it's about.
Sorry this is so long. I appreciate any insight!
Kernel
2.6.35-palm-tenderloin
[email protected] #12
CyanogenMod version:
9.0.0-RC0-Touchpad-alpha2
Build Date
Mon, Feb 20 13:59:21 CST 2012
Build Number
IML74K
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I've run across this 3 times with TPs I work on....
1st one had to be sent back to HP because somehow internal memory was damaged and got locked in some some of read only mode
2nd one I saw, I went into webOS, installed the internalz app, mounted the TP to the computer, then added and erased some files and from then on all was good in both webOS and Android
3rd and 4th (same customer) had to be sent in to HP
Now let me mention I live in Costa Rica so all these have been exposed to several scans at airport security checkpoints. I mention this because I haven't seen anything close to a read only problem with the TPs in the USA
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thank you so much for the info. Unfortunately Internalz didn't want to help the items stay deleted either. The stuck in read-only type mode is very weird.
I'm pretty sure I am 3 weeks out of the 1-year warranty on it, plus I am unable to remove android from it to even trick them that it just doesn't work.
I guess I'll try webos doctor and see if that can get it going.
edit: webos doctor not working, even with the closing it at 8-12% tricks and doing the lvm.static..... stuff... 'cause it of course doesn't see to actually delete anything... i'll have to double check tomorrow when i bought it, pretty sure it's over the year and since it turns on and has android kinda screwed
plasticsoldier said:
thank you so much for the info. Unfortunately Internalz didn't want to help the items stay deleted either. The stuck in read-only type mode is very weird.
I'm pretty sure I am 3 weeks out of the 1-year warranty on it, plus I am unable to remove android from it to even trick them that it just doesn't work.
I guess I'll try webos doctor and see if that can get it going.
edit: webos doctor not working, even with the closing it at 8-12% tricks and doing the lvm.static..... stuff... 'cause it of course doesn't see to actually delete anything... i'll have to double check tomorrow when i bought it, pretty sure it's over the year and since it turns on and has android kinda screwed
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I would suggest trying to restore down to WebOS 3.0. In that procedure you literally wipe EVERYTHING on the internal partitions in novaterm and start from absolute scratch. Therefore, if it a software issue you could solve the problem. However, if it is a hardware issue, you'd be kinda screwed.
Yeah, none of the methods I've ended up finding about this problem or other bricked problems are working at all.
i checked at work when i bought it, which of course the 11th was the year mark... but I do have android installed so even if i can get any chance of them honouring it so close they'll probably be like "oh you have android, that'll be $$$ for us to do anything. thanks!"
So I guess I now I have a paperweight with some features.
cdzo72 said:
I've run across this 3 times with TPs I work on....
1st one had to be sent back to HP because somehow internal memory was damaged and got locked in some some of read only mode
2nd one I saw, I went into webOS, installed the internalz app, mounted the TP to the computer, then added and erased some files and from then on all was good in both webOS and Android
3rd and 4th (same customer) had to be sent in to HP
Now let me mention I live in Costa Rica so all these have been exposed to several scans at airport security checkpoints. I mention this because I haven't seen anything close to a read only problem with the TPs in the USA
Sent from my aokp_tenderloin using Tapatalk 2
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When you got the tablets back had they been fixed or were they refurbs ? Did HP say anything about Android still being on it?
There is a thread in the General forum about how to restore and downgrade. Have you tried that thread ? It is usually a great way to try and get that last restore before sending it back to HP.
73 de VE6AY
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how are you adding and deleting files when in android? which version of android do you have installed? have you tried different rom versions? have you tried moving and/or deleting files over adb? are you using windows or linux on your computer that youre connecting the touchpad to? it doesnt make sense that the sdcard would be set to read only. is it only certain folders that you cant modify the contents of, or is it the entire sdcard? are you able to modify contents of folders in the / directory of the device using root file explorer or es file explorer in android? have you run "fix permissions"? Also, running webosdoctor wont wipe the sdcard contents or format the sdcard in any way. its going to change the data in the webos partition and may change some data in the /boot directory.
sstar said:
When you got the tablets back had they been fixed or were they refurbs ? Did HP say anything about Android still being on it?
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They had been fixed but the owners sent them off and had to pay for the whole thing because they had Android on them. When I got my hands on them again I just reinstalled Android. HP charged a little over a hundred dollars for the fix
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cdzo72 said:
They had been fixed but the owners sent them off and had to pay for the whole thing because they had Android on them. When I got my hands on them again I just reinstalled Android. HP charged a little over a hundred dollars for the fix
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Thanks for the answer, this would tend to suggest that the problem is software based corrupted or otherwise. I am trying to find a program that will allow me to read/format the Android partition on my windows computer and will let you know if come up with anything.
Regards
i guess i should change the title slightly.. it's not sdcard, but basically the entire touchpad contents. go to root and delete whatever i want and it doesn't matter. connect it and format with windows and it doesn't actually matter.
haxin said:
how are you adding and deleting files when in android?
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i've added and deleted just by using mtp. i've also deleted the files on the android side with the video player (vplayer) i've installed es file explorer (which after restart is gone) and deleted with that. i've also gone into webos and installed internalz pro and deleted files that way, which it then seems to work until i of course do anything related to restarting.
some of the files i've put on, i've had it recognize briefly. so for the video file, start it, then it gets really choppy/glitchy playing it. so stop it, go back into the vplayer and it's back to the old stuff
which version of android do you have installed? have you tried different rom versions?
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android version 4.0.3. nothing else will install. if i add files while in android, when i boot into cwm they are gone. if i mount usb in cwm and add them they stay briefly but when i try to flash them they fail.
have you tried moving and/or deleting files over adb? are you using windows or linux on your computer that youre connecting the touchpad to?
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i have not tried adb yet, just not as familiar using it properly, i will give it a try though.
i am using windows 7 on my laptop currently. i do have a pc upstairs that i barely use that has vista, but i don't know how that would make a difference to the touchpad
it doesnt make sense that the sdcard would be set to read only. is it only certain folders that you cant modify the contents of, or is it the entire sdcard?
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yeah as i put above i guess saying sdcard was a bit confusing/misleading (my bad, sorry!), i didn't really know what else to call it at the time or how to explain myself properly at first.
are you able to modify contents of folders in the / directory of the device using root file explorer or es file explorer in android?
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i can move/delete/modify anything which has absolutely no effect to the device. i've used es file explorer and gone up to root and deleted everything and the system runs fine. says the system is empty with lots of free space (its the 32gb model) but restart or even go into recovery and everything is once again there.
have you run "fix permissions"?
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i've run it a few times. just acts likes it's working and then says done. i've even gone into the mounts and storage in cwm and formatted sdcard/cache/data/system. does nothing at all in the end of things
Also, running webosdoctor wont wipe the sdcard contents or format the sdcard in any way. its going to change the data in the webos partition and may change some data in the /boot directory.
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it was just something to try to get somewhere right. it never gets past 12%. always fails to reboot.
I am currently letting the battery drain and see if it dying and then being charged will do anything. probably not. but who knows. i talked to a "tech" on the chat support (i never mentioned android) who told me that having preware installed in webos causing it to become corrupt and they "don't knowledge of preware installed devices" exact words. no idea what that means haha don't have knowledge, don't acknowledge...
anyhow. i've not quite given up. i just don't really see it turning out any differently from the previous times. i do appreciate all the feedback and help very much though
ok so heres what I would try. First try flashing a new fresh rom. download one that you want to your computer like cm9 nightly or aokp or whatever you feel like. then boot into CWM recovery connect the touchpad to the computer via usb. then connect to the touchpad with adb. I'm not sure how to do this in windows because it's been so long since I've done it on a windows box, I always use linux.
adb has alot of options, you can move files to and from the device, you can uninstall or install app packages, and more. this way you can adb push the rom .zip to the touchpad's sdcard while youre in cwm recovery. this way you dont have to reboot the touchpad and risk having the file disappear, you can just go to 'install zip from sdcard' and then 'choose zip from sdcard' in cwm recovery after you adb push the rom, you should see it in the folder you pushed it to on the sdcard.
If you arent familiar with how to use adb from the command line or the terminal this might not make alot of sense and i dont know how better to explain it than that. Also yes windows 7 vs windows vista does make a difference there are issues with novacom installing properly, that's why you would have problems running acmeuninstaller or acmeinstaller2. if you look around you should find some videos or how to's that can probably explain it better. Hope this helps.
http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Novacom_with_Windows_7
http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/295881-webos-doctor-12-issue-fixed-5.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244 is the thread I was talking about - it allows you to access the hard root of the device, repartition it, and start again from scratch. It is what I was suggesting last night, from my tablet when I didn't have the link handy.
ve6ay said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244 is the thread I was talking about - it allows you to access the hard root of the device, repartition it, and start again from scratch. It is what I was suggesting last night, from my tablet when I didn't have the link handy.
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Probably the best suggestion yet given that everything else has been tried.
Good luck.
****EDIT****
Before you attempt the step above I have just noticed a difference between between cwm and. TWRP2.2 which I have installed on my Touchpad via goo manager. If I open recovery via goo manager and then select wipe it gives me 4 options cache, davlik, factory reset AND system which i think says will remove your rom . I don't see the forth option available with the regular cwm/clockwork. Just a thought.
All the best with whatever you try next.
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Probably the best suggestion yet given that everything else has been tried.
Good luck.
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this would work, however you have to fix you novacom/novaterm issues on your windows machine before you'll be able to do any of this. the reason acmeuninstaller, acmeinstaller2 arent working is likely because youre on a windows7 64bit box and Palm-sdk, the novacomd.exe, noverm.exe, and javaruntime apps and drivers arent setup right. just make sure you have the proper javaupdates on your computer then you can install preware in webos, preware has some nice tools that will delete the entire android install partitions, one is called 'remove android' and the other is called 'tailor' you run them from within webos. after you do that then in webos you should do a full device reset. you'll find it in the "info" tab under settings in webos. this will delete and reformat the whole /media ,(aka sdcard) partition. so you will lose all the files you have stored on both webos and android. that format will take a long time probably like 30 min or more. after thats done. reboot the hp and run webosdoctor. now i know for sure this will work because ive done it on mine. remember to put the touchpad in developer mode in webos first to install preware. you can do that by typing webos20090606 into the webos search bar and hitting enter. I'll put links from my box.com accou t to everything you need.
https://www.box.com/s/479acdb6ef9c99fc7b92
https://www.box.com/s/1aed4722990aad251570
edit: also I'm not sure if youre on the 16gig 32gig or 64gig pad, the webosdoctor that i linked is for 32gig wifi only US version. if thats not what you have then youll need to get the doctor for for specific touchpad. or you could create a webosmetadoctor but thats a whole nother project.
i have the 32gb version. i assume US and Canadian aren't gonna make a difference
i've tried all those threads. any novacom/novaterm stuff doesn't work, the files won't delete so when trying to recreate they just error saying it already exists.
if the devices is on in androind the adb can find the device although the "Serial" has a bunch of ???? at the end of it. when i go to cwm adb cannot find the device.
in cwm i can mount and add files that way and go back to install zip sdcard but get:
Code:
--Installing /sdcard/aokp_tenderloin_milestone-4.zip
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
E: Can't open /sdcard/aokp_tenderloin_milestone-4.zip
(bad)
Installation aborted
used "remove android" in webos, but then nothing is different after the fact as usual. 'tailor' doesn't seem to exist anymore in preware at least that i can find
not sure if there is anything else I can do at this point
plasticsoldier said:
i have the 32gb version. i assume US and Canadian aren't gonna make a difference
i've tried all those threads. any novacom/novaterm stuff doesn't work, the files won't delete so when trying to recreate they just error saying it already exists.
if the devices is on in androind the adb can find the device although the "Serial" has a bunch of ???? at the end of it. when i go to cwm adb cannot find the device.
in cwm i can mount and add files that way and go back to install zip sdcard but get:
Code:
--Installing /sdcard/aokp_tenderloin_milestone-4.zip
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
E: Can't open /sdcard/aokp_tenderloin_milestone-4.zip
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used "remove android" in webos, but then nothing is different after the fact as usual. 'tailor' doesn't seem to exist anymore in preware at least that i can find
not sure if there is anything else I can do at this point
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ok no one will be able to help you fix this issue unless you give complete details of the problems. when you say " novacom/novaterm stuff doesn't work" we cant really help specific error details is what i need. I dont mind helping you fix this but you have to be a little more specific on exactly what,where, and how youre installing and running and mounting apps and directories.
your problem IS fixable but you need to slow down and really do things exactly step by step.
Ok so back to ./adb. now when you boot in to CWM recovery on he touchpad DONT do anything in CWM just plug it into the computer. do not mount it as a usb storage and dont mount or unmount the sd partition LEAVE IT.
you can then use ./adb from the command line or terminal on the computer to move the files to the touchpad' or install apk's uninstall apk's you name it. This will require that you know some linux terminal commands. for example to move a new rom zip to the internal sd card or into any other folder you can use ./adb push command to run a root shell on the android device itself you can use ./adb shell and then change folder and file properties from readonly to rw. this can all be done while the touchpad is patiently waitng in CWM recovery. this way when youre done installing or uninstalling apps from the device and moving flash zips to it, you can disconnect the .adb connection with ./adb disconnect or just type exit from the terminal till it closes. unplug it then you will be able to pick up the touchpad and install zip from the sdcard, keep in mind you dont want to choose 'apply u[date from sdcard' you want to use the 'install zip from sdcard option' you can read up more on how adb works. it is probally the most important part of hacking android.
with that being said. novaterm is the palm webos version of .adb. this is why when you boot into webos recovery to do things like acmeinstaller and acmeuninstaller2 the novaterm novacom and novacomd apps have to be installed correctly on the computer or else you wont be going anywhere fast. some screenshot examples of how it should appear below.
https://www.box.com/s/432e63a83215f00eea6a
https://www.box.com/s/970bc29542a05f98f036
https://www.box.com/s/63c0f656e8354f7f2d6a
https://www.box.com/s/cbe3266467ae8e3ebabe
https://www.box.com/s/005e56a61a178dd17fa4 some better resolution images.
Plasticsoldier said
used "remove android" in webos, but then nothing is different after the fact as usual. 'tailor' doesn't seem to exist anymore in preware at least that i can find
not sure if there is anything else I can do at this point
Yes there is
Firstly tailor does exist, it is a beta and the facility to dl must be enabled.
Read this and scroll down to Enabling beta test feeds and follow the instructions , when you get as far as using the Linux command you CAN copy and paste thank God.
http://en.m.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds?wasRedirected=true . After that reboot into Webos and launch preware. Go into managed feeds as per the instructions in the link above and install Tailor. Reboot again and the app will work. It looks very good actually.
But before attempting to actually use Tailor please read the article I have posted below it is only 7 pages long but will explain how to use Taylor properly as it is a powerful tool.
http://forums.webosnation.com/webos...partition-filesystem-editor-beta-testing.html
I have done all of this , this morning so if you have any problems pm me or ask in this thread.
I sincerely hope that this helps, it should be the answer to your problems.
@haxin: sorry, wasn't trying to be unhelpful when everyone is being helpful to me. I shall be more detailed in future responses. I think i was getting frustrated and had had a busy exhausting day so it didn't help me come across clearly/properly.
OK, so I had preware installed already, so I removed it, went into developer mode, used the linux commands, reinstalled preware, added Tailor.
(i've done this a few times, because I didn't remove the cable after doing the linux commands for preware, then i accidentally hit the wrong buttons and it connected to 'usb drive' mode and wouldn't connect on the pc side and got stuck on the "ow disconnected me properly next time" screen).
So it gives me the following options
USB (media)
Android (system)
Android (cache)
Android (data)
Unused Space
the 'usb media' starts mounted and will mount again if unmounted. If I use 'check filesystem' it'll pass. So then I try 'delete partition' which pretends to delete, then it takes me to the unused partition which is still at 16mb. so i try to use "check filesystem' again and it fails. try repair and it fails as well
I've tried mounting the android parts just to see, they just sit there processing that they are trying to mount. trying to delete or anything else fails as well.
and now after trying things, any of the 'cards' will try to open and just sit there grey. and with my usb cable not plugged in it still is giving me the option to enter usb drive mode. and with this i have to restart and go through the steps again of adding Tailor which is getting tedious.
I restarted, went through the motions to get back to Tailor. trying out resizing just to see how that goes. So far 15%. not sure what will happen when done, but we will see.
This is getting long, so i'll end this part and update on anything and also try to familiarize myself with adb a tad more
I have a Verizon Galaxy Tab 7 (SCH-I800) and I can not link up to it in ADB.
I have installed the Android Development Kit, Samsung drivers, and downloaded CM10.1.
I was able to contact the tablet in command prompt through heimdall and push clockworkmod recovery.
I'm following this guide:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/33743-ext...rd-only-guide/
I've removed the internal memory card.
I've modified the update.sh file and rezipped everything.
I just need to know WHY adb cannot find my device. When I type "adb devices" in the command line NOTHING shows up. I've tried reinstalling the samsung driver, reinstalling the driver that came with heimdall, and updating the samsung driver via windows update.
By the way, this device would bootloop at the verizon loading screen, could not be updated, and could not load its original android OS, therefore I cannot turn on debugging or anything like that. Alls I can do is access the "PC connection" yellow screen and the CWM bootloader I pushed with Heimdall.
By "Internal" Memory ya meant "External" Memory right? as the Internal Memory is the 16GB Flash ROM.
In any case all pedantry aside. Did you remember to check the USB Debug Setting?
I think you can find this under the Wi-Fi Settings (On the Samsung Stock ROMs), IIRC it should be near the "Samsung Kies / Media Player / USB Storage" Settings. On CM10 Builds you'll find it in the "Developer Settings" near the bottom of the List.
Pretty sure you have to check this "Flag" before you can use ADB on your Device...
In that case consider yourself bricked!
In this case I'd recommend you find the Overcome Recovery Package: HERE
Install such Driver that you may need, then fire up Odin3 v1.7
Then set your Device into Download Mode (e.g. Hold Volume Rocker down + Power till you enter the Download Mode Screen)
Pit -> gt-p1000_mr.pit
PDA -> GB_Stock_Safe_v5.tar
Phone -> modem.bin**
Most People would just use the XXJPZ (GSM modem.bin), here but, since you have a CDMA Phablet, you'll have to find and pick the correct modem.bin File that is the best match for your CDMA Device. This is also likely why your now soft-bricked.
Hopefully after all this rigamarole you'll land up on a Stock, non-branded Samsung Gingerbread 2.3.3 ROM.
To which I would just download This, and that should give you Root.
Without all that tedious mucking about with ADB.
The internal chip has failed. I cannot boot the device whatsoever. I removed it as the link states. Therefore i cannot check off debug mode on the tablet. I will try your suggested method and report back
Don't look at Overcome method if you have a CDMA tab.
It will only brick your tab if it ever worked at all.
Regarding bad internal memory, there are two chips. The OneNand 512MB and the MoviNAND 16GB.
If your OneNAND is the one broken, removing the MoviNAND achieved nothing.
The bootloader, modem, (and is it /system too of stock rom?) sits on OneNAND.
If you look at the link I posted, my tablet was doing the same exact thing as pictured in the link. Saying it could not mount any files or anything. No matter what I did, it would just get to the verizon loading screen and keep flashing "verizon".
I haven't tried the "overcome" method as it didn't really seem like it'd work.
I want to ADB my device to push the new ROM to it. I've already formatted the SDcard as suggested in the guide. Since clearly no one is clicking the link and reading the guide, I'll post it:
Summary:
- Open up the device and take internal SD Card out.
- Re-assemble the device.
- Partition the external SD Card (3 partitions, two small ext4 and one big FAT32)
- Modify ICS or later ROM's update.sh to use partition 3 as external SD Card.
- Flash modded ROM via CWM (and Google Apps optional).
- Enjoy
Taking it appart:
Don't panic!, if you can use a screwdriver and build with Legos you are qualified to do this!
iFixit does a wonderful job of showcasing how to open the device up that I rather link to them than try to out-do them.
Follow their guide until step 13 then refer back to this guide. http://www.ifixit.co...Teardown/4103/1
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To actually remove the Internal SD Card (that is not soldered to the board but in-fact glued to it), I recommend you take an exacto knife (or other small blade or thin screwdriver) and slide it around the edges gently; once the edges are loose, take your screwdriver under the chip and just pop it up.
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There will be adhesive residue on the board, I recommend using some gentle solvent to remove it (I used a cloth with a little paint thinner).
Put everything back together (just follow the iFixit guide on reverse) and feel proud that you are done with the hardware mod.
Partition your external SD Card
I used three partitions (all primary, not logical) , two 500 MB ext4 and a FAT32 with the rest of the space.
Linux users will probably not require much help on deciding what software to use, but for Windows users MiniTool Partition Wizard does a good enough job.
Do note that your device will perform according to your external SD Card, so it's not a bad idea to invest in a category 10 SD Card.
Modifing the ROM:
Download your ICS / JB ROM of choice, unzip it and open update.sh
Edit both line 31 and 35 to be as bellow
SD_PART='/dev/block/mmcblk0p3'Save and zip back.
Loading the Modded ROM to the SD:
Because we messed with the SD Cards, CWM will have a bit of trouble finding the external SD Card (until we flash our ROM).
Go ahead and connect your device to your computer and ADB the following command:
adb shell "echo /dev/block/mmcblk0p3 > /sys/devices/platform/usb_mass_storage/lun0/file"
That will allow you to access your SD Card from your PC, just copy your modded ROM to it.
Now, issude the following command:
adb shell mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p3 /sdcard
This will allow you to install the .zip file from CWM, go ahead and do that.
After checking partition types, your device will reboot and appear on a countdown to find the external SD Card, go ahead and reboot it manually before it does automatically (reboot to recovery with volume up).
Flash the .zip again, this time the installation will go successfully and you will have a working device.
Optionally, flash your desired Google Apps.
Now if we could get back to my original question, does anyone know why this device will not allow me to ADB it even when it's in download mode (a.k.a volume down/power button)
I actually got my tablet to boot up this morning for about 1 minute, then it shut off for no reason and did the "verizon" flash again when restarted.
priyana said:
Don't look at Overcome method if you have a CDMA tab.
It will only brick your tab if it ever worked at all.
Regarding bad internal memory, there are two chips. The OneNand 512MB and the MoviNAND 16GB.
If your OneNAND is the one broken, removing the MoviNAND achieved nothing.
The bootloader, modem, (and is it /system too of stock rom?) sits on OneNAND.
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Please correct my but, what other then the modem.bin File could brick such a CDMA Device?
AFAIK as long as he picks the correct CDMA modem.bin it should work alright?
In the case that I am in error, then how does One recover such a CDMA Device then?
I can easily recover this device if I can get the ADB commands to start working. I feel like no one is reading the instructions. If you look at the link where the instructions are, there is a screenshot of his device. All of that "unable to mount" etc is what was happening to my device, hence why I removed the failed chip.
If I could get my device to show up in ADB, I wouldn't be asking this question!
By the way, I'm on an HP DV6. I tried all this in windows 8 and got nothing, so I installed a backup hard drive and put windows 7 on (this is what I'm on now) to see if that'd make a difference. Still nothing. I also tried on my old Gateway desktop but in download mode my old PC (still USB 1.1 1GHz celeron 512mb ram) the PC has no clue what the tablet is.
So I finally got this thing to boot into 2.2. Now the touch screen is unresponsive and the battery goes to 0 as soon as it's unplugged. Going to take it apart in the morning and make sure everythings connected. Might try a new battery but if this thing doesn't show more promising results soon I'm going to just say screw it and get rid of it.
Edit: Touch screen works but is flipped. If I slide my finger side to side nothing happens. If I slide it up and down i can awkwardly unlock the device. I'm guessing reload the factory image?!
the CDMA device is of different hardware. Not just the modem.
I am not technical enough to explain the difference. But I know Overcome method will brick it.
EliteEmerz: can you at least share how you get the PC to detect your device again?
priyana said:
the CDMA device is of different hardware. Not just the modem.
I am not technical enough to explain the difference. But I know Overcome method will brick it.
EliteEmerz: can you at least share how you get the PC to detect your device again?
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If you put it into download mode it shows right up in my device list, drivers for "samsung USB device" load up. I can contact the tablet through heimdall to load bootloaders, images, etc.
For some reason I got it working pretty good last night except the touch screen issue. I reloaded the stock rom again and am playing with the SD card partitions since that's how I got it to boot up the last 2 times. I dont even care if I can load Jellybean on, I just want a working tablet.
By the way, this is SOLVED.
It will now boot up using a Stock ROM plus the zImage + recovery from clockworkmod
My touch screen is flipped (so I have to slide up and down to get it to swipe side to side) but at least it's on now. Made a new thread to address the flipped touch screen issue!!