Question about transferring phone to someone else. - Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am planning on selling my rooted HTC Hero to someone who already has Sprint service, but wants my phone. Will Sprint be able to change the phone over to his number with it being rooted? Or will I need to put it back to stock first? Also, can someone give me a link on how to unroot the Sprint CDMA hero and how to restore the factory firmware. thank you

Sprint to should be able to transfer the phone number without issues with the phone already rooted. As far as restoreing the factory firmware, here.

gu1dry said:
Sprint to should be able to transfer the phone number without issues with the phone already rooted. As far as restoreing the factory firmware, here.
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If you Run RUU on the phone, this does not make it so anyone can take the phone to sprint and have it changed. You may have to go with them to the store while they reprovision or whatever the phone to someone else.
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Didn't mean to qoute you gu1dry.

Flashing it to RUU, doesn't affect the transfer process. The buyer can still take it to Sprint & have them transfer the phone number without issues.

gu1dry said:
Flashing it to RUU, doesn't affect the transfer process. The buyer can still take it to Sprint & have them transfer the phone number without issues.
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I was really just refering to the fact of the ESN not being clean. I bought a phone that had an unpaid bill on it...I couldn't activate the phone in my name until the bill was paid....darn ebay.

Thanks for the help. This site is awesome. I had absolutely no experience with the hero and rooted it and put Fresh rom on it the 2nd day of owning it.
thanks again
Oh, I am only selling it b/c AT&T has better service in my area and they just announced an Exclusive HTC android phone just for AT&T. Unfortunately no one no what it's going to look like yet.

schultzy001 said:
Thanks for the help. This site is awesome. I had absolutely no experience with the hero and rooted it and put Fresh rom on it the 2nd day of owning it.
thanks again
Oh, I am only selling it b/c AT&T has better service in my area and they just announced an Exclusive HTC android phone just for AT&T. Unfortunately no one no what it's going to look like yet.
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I feel your pain I'm just waiting on either the dell mini, or Sony xperia to come out.

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[Q]Used phone activation on locale carrier, carrier requesting spc code.

Hello,
I have a couple of questions, that I'm hoping can be fixed so I can finally retire my HTC Dinc.
Upon purchasing the Sprint variant of the HTC ONE I made sure my carrier uses the exact model, so I got a used black colored one.
Anyways, i brought the phone in for activation waited a few hours for the tech person to come into work and a few mintues later they informed me i need an spc code to unlock the phone so he can program it. Ive been reading lots of threads about spc codes/unlocking and stuff but t always mentions msl, is msl and spc the same thing in regards to unlocking something.
My carrier uses cdma for its devices, are these sim unlock tuts what im looking for in order to activate my phone?.
What ive done so far however has been a failure, ive tried calling sprint, no go. Ive also tried the no root, no calling sprint mother that failed also*I was a public PC and its running xp maybe it failed cause of that* .
Right now the device is with a shop that does unlocking phones and I've link him to the methods I've tried, but he says it won't work with the 4.3 ota. He also mentions he would ha e to downgrade to 4.2 in order to unlock.
To sum it all up in a nutshell, does obtaining the spc/msl code in fact enable my carrier to activate the phone?
Also do these methods mention above only work on 4.2 and below?
Its been about a week since I've received the phone and my dinc is really starting to show its age, and would like a breath of fresh air.
Thanks in advance!!
v1ral said:
Hello,
I have a couple of questions, that I'm hoping can be fixed so I can finally retire my HTC Dinc.
Upon purchasing the Sprint variant of the HTC ONE I made sure my carrier uses the exact model, so I got a used black colored one.
Anyways, i brought the phone in for activation waited a few hours for the tech person to come into work and a few mintues later they informed me i need an spc code to unlock the phone so he can program it. Ive been reading lots of threads about spc codes/unlocking and stuff but t always mentions msl, is msl and spc the same thing in regards to unlocking something.
My carrier uses cdma for its devices, are these sim unlock tuts what im looking for in order to activate my phone?.
What ive done so far however has been a failure, ive tried calling sprint, no go. Ive also tried the no root, no calling sprint mother that failed also*I was a public PC and its running xp maybe it failed cause of that* .
Right now the device is with a shop that does unlocking phones and I've link him to the methods I've tried, but he says it won't work with the 4.3 ota. He also mentions he would ha e to downgrade to 4.2 in order to unlock.
To sum it all up in a nutshell, does obtaining the spc/msl code in fact enable my carrier to activate the phone?
Also do these methods mention above only work on 4.2 and below?
Its been about a week since I've received the phone and my dinc is really starting to show its age, and would like a breath of fresh air.
Thanks in advance!!
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Yes the SPC is the MSL. They use it to input their carrier specific settings. Edit: Here is a link to getting the SPC/MSL http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2254578
There are methods to unlocking 4.3 in the forums here. I'll find a link in a min. Edit: Here is a link to unlocking a 4.3 based HTC ONE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48867255
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Yes the SPC is the MSL. They use it to input their carrier specific settings. Edit: Here is a link to getting the SPC/MSL http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2254578
There are methods to unlocking 4.3 in the forums here. I'll find a link in a min. Edit: Here is a link to unlocking a 4.3 based HTC ONE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48867255
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Thanks!!
But I'm still confused, are the links for sim unlock? It states it'll be using gsm/uxxx stuff.
My carrier will be using CDMA I believe so is sim sorta the same thing or?
I do not want to root now till I get the device activated though, but if root is required then so be it.
v1ral said:
Thanks!!
But I'm still confused, are the links for sim unlock? It states it'll be using gsm/uxxx stuff.
My carrier will be using CDMA I believe so is sim sorta the same thing or?
I do not want to root now till I get the device activated though, but if root is required then so be it.
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Well you dont need root to get the MSL. Yea that link was for SIM unlock. The person who is activating your phone shouldn't need that. I put it there just in case : P Cheers!
insuusvenerati said:
Well you dont need root to get the MSL. Yea that link was for SIM unlock. The person who is activating your phone shouldn't need that. I put it there just in case : P Cheers!
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In that case I wonder why hes saying about needing to downgrade cause the guide is for before 4.3 or something. I don't think hes doing it right IMO and I also think I can just do it myself.
The sim unlock link is a good read, it has steps to downgrading and all that which has got me wondering, if I do it, will I be able to use lte. I know this is an HTC one thread but this idea got me thinking, ATM there is only one phone on my carrier that does 4g lte which is the LG AS840 and I've checked the specs of it and the One and they match freqs for the lte side of things, what I'm saying is that will my carrier be able to make the lte function like with the LG AS840 device, if so then awesome if not oh well. What would make it NOT work with One, my carrier using phones from various stateside vendors, I wonder what they did to make the lte work on the LG AS840.
Anyways if the person has no luck then i will try and do it myself *save $50 in the process as well*.
Thanks again!!
v1ral said:
In that case I wonder why hes saying about needing to downgrade cause the guide is for before 4.3 or something. I don't think hes doing it right IMO and I also think I can just do it myself.
The sim unlock link is a good read, it has steps to downgrading and all that which has got me wondering, if I do it, will I be able to use lte. I know this is an HTC one thread but this idea got me thinking, ATM there is only one phone on my carrier that does 4g lte which is the LG AS840 and I've checked the specs of it and the One and they match freqs for the lte side of things, what I'm saying is that will my carrier be able to make the lte function like with the LG AS840 device, if so then awesome if not oh well. What would make it NOT work with One, my carrier using phones from various stateside vendors, I wonder what they did to make the lte work on the LG AS840.
Anyways if the person has no luck then i will try and do it myself *save $50 in the process as well*.
Thanks again!!
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If they are reprogramming your phone to work with another CDMA carrier then the SIM unlock will probably not help. Also you probably won't be able to do it yourself. I say probably because i've never seen it NOT done but I haven't seen anyone doing it either. It is a global phone so most people are sim unlocking to use it over seas. The thread I linked regarding SIM unlocking has an RUU that will bring you back down to 4.1 which is the initial software release when the phone first came out. That should be sufficient. Send him a direct link to that file and see if he can use it. It's just a simple program that does everything on it's own. Remember though the process will completely wipe your phone and internal sdcard.
v1ral said:
Hello,
I have a couple of questions, that I'm hoping can be fixed so I can finally retire my HTC Dinc.
Upon purchasing the Sprint variant of the HTC ONE I made sure my carrier uses the exact model, so I got a used black colored one.
Anyways, i brought the phone in for activation waited a few hours for the tech person to come into work and a few mintues later they informed me i need an spc code to unlock the phone so he can program it. Ive been reading lots of threads about spc codes/unlocking and stuff but t always mentions msl, is msl and spc the same thing in regards to unlocking something.
My carrier uses cdma for its devices, are these sim unlock tuts what im looking for in order to activate my phone?.
What ive done so far however has been a failure, ive tried calling sprint, no go. Ive also tried the no root, no calling sprint mother that failed also*I was a public PC and its running xp maybe it failed cause of that* .
Right now the device is with a shop that does unlocking phones and I've link him to the methods I've tried, but he says it won't work with the 4.3 ota. He also mentions he would ha e to downgrade to 4.2 in order to unlock.
To sum it all up in a nutshell, does obtaining the spc/msl code in fact enable my carrier to activate the phone?
Also do these methods mention above only work on 4.2 and below?
Its been about a week since I've received the phone and my dinc is really starting to show its age, and would like a breath of fresh air.
Thanks in advance!!
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your SPC is the same as MSL, It is a security code used by carriers to enable some settings to be changed in the phone, your SPC/MSL is easily obtainable using software, I use CDMA workshop for stuff like that because it is very easy, there is other software that will read it for you but I think root is required, whoever the carrier of the phone is will also be able to provide it to you.
insuusvenerati said:
If they are reprogramming your phone to work with another CDMA carrier then the SIM unlock will probably not help. Also you probably won't be able to do it yourself. I say probably because i've never seen it NOT done but I haven't seen anyone doing it either. It is a global phone so most people are sim unlocking to use it over seas. The thread I linked regarding SIM unlocking has an RUU that will bring you back down to 4.1 which is the initial software release when the phone first came out. That should be sufficient. Send him a direct link to that file and see if he can use it. It's just a simple program that does everything on it's own. Remember though the process will completely wipe your phone and internal sdcard.
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But does he HAVE to downgrade the device to obtain the no root, no calling sprint way to get the msl code? Cause what I'm seeing is that there is no need to downgrade or root to get the msl code*this is what i need to activate the device and possibly save $50* , money aside though if he does it great, but ive been waiting a bit since I received the phone.
Again thanks for your time.
v1ral said:
But does he HAVE to downgrade the device to obtain the no root, no calling sprint way to get the msl code? Cause what I'm seeing is that there is no need to downgrade or root to get the msl code*this is what i need to activate the device and possibly save $50* , money aside though if he does it great, but ive been waiting a bit since I received the phone.
Again thanks for your time.
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Yea you're right. He shouldn't need to downgrade to get the MSL. If all he needs is the MSL then no downgrade needed.
How about the use of 4g lte?
It baffles me that my carrier has it in the as840 device, will I be able to utilize it with the One or my mileage may vary?
So it turns out he was unable to downgrade, he says he tried every method he can. I don't think he has the right info on the table tbh, I will try tkmorrow when I have access to a PC. Makes me laugh a little inside, he's the GO TO guy for stuff, while I'm the GO TO guy at work for stuff like this*sorry for the ranting*.
Thanks again!!
Edit/update.
Through the msl thread someone posted a .apk file of msl utility.
Good news: the app installed and it DID show me the msl code.
Bad news*sorta*: I won't be able to check if the code works, if its even the right code. In other words I don't know the credibility of the app itself.
*crosses fingers* when I go to activate the phone.

Put Sim into N6, old phone cannot be activated by someone else (Verizon)

Took my sim out of an HTC One M8 and put it into my new Nexus 6. No problems on my end. Sold my M8 and the buyer is stating that they cannot activate the phone. Did I miss a step? The M8 was factory reset to wipe data and is running a custom rom w/ bootloader unlocked. I don't have any further information from the buyer yet but does this sound familiar to anyone? Thanks for any help.
Yazzinit said:
Took my sim out of an HTC One M8 and put it into my new Nexus 6. No problems on my end. Sold my M8 and the buyer is stating that they cannot activate the phone. Did I miss a step? The M8 was factory reset to wipe data and is running a custom rom w/ bootloader unlocked.
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How is it running a custom ROM if you did a factory reset?
Yazzinit said:
I don't have any further information from the buyer yet but does this sound familiar to anyone? Thanks for any help.
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I have never tried to have Verizon activate a new SIM card in a phone running a custom ROM. Tell the buyer to return it to stock and try again.
I used the wrong term then. I went into settings and wiped my user data and it rebooted into the custom ROM but at the set up stage w/ no saved accounts.
I'll pass along returning to stock and trying again.
Yazzinit said:
I used the wrong term then. I went into settings and wiped my user data and it rebooted into the custom ROM but at the set up stage w/ no saved accounts.
I'll pass along returning to stock and trying again.
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Also, obviously data has to be enabled but I find it is best to turn off WiFi when activating a new SIM card to make sure that the device connects to the LTE network.
Thanks for that as well!
Yazzinit said:
Took my sim out of an HTC One M8 and put it into my new Nexus 6. No problems on my end. Sold my M8 and the buyer is stating that they cannot activate the phone. Did I miss a step? The M8 was factory reset to wipe data and is running a custom rom w/ bootloader unlocked. I don't have any further information from the buyer yet but does this sound familiar to anyone? Thanks for any help.
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I would suggest that you check the IMEI, just to make sure it hasn't been black listed for some reason. There are a number of sites where you can do this, including swappa.com
I actually sold it on Swappa. Wouldn't see why the IMEI would be blacklisted. I was the only owner and there were never any issues with my bill. Phone worked through the day I got the Nexus 6.
Well the buyer have to get a Sim from Verizon or phone won't work. Sim is for LTE. I bought a g3 off craiglist without a Sim and it only could run on 3g until I got a new Sim. Tell the buyer to try there's if they have one . I Have sprint so Verizon might be completely different. They ordered me a new one for free

? about bringing a phone into ATT for activation, custom rom

Hello, just wanted to ask this and see what other people thought. I don't think it would be an issue, but just want to be sure.
So I am buying a Nexus 6 for my Dad for his b-day, and what I want to do is root/install the Chroma rom on it before I send it to him. Question being if I do this for him and then he brings the phone into ATT to get a nano sim for it, is ATT going to give him grief if they notice that the phone is rooted/custom rom'd?
mva5580 said:
Hello, just wanted to ask this and see what other people thought. I don't think it would be an issue, but just want to be sure.
So I am buying a Nexus 6 for my Dad for his b-day, and what I want to do is root/install the Chroma rom on it before I send it to him. Question being if I do this for him and then he brings the phone into ATT to get a nano sim for it, is ATT going to give him grief if they notice that the phone is rooted/custom rom'd?
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if you/he owns the phone, it doesnt matter what anybody who works for att thinks. you have that right.
My experience is that it makes no difference as to what rom you have on the phone.
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mva5580 said:
Hello, just wanted to ask this and see what other people thought. I don't think it would be an issue, but just want to be sure.
So I am buying a Nexus 6 for my Dad for his b-day, and what I want to do is root/install the Chroma rom on it before I send it to him. Question being if I do this for him and then he brings the phone into ATT to get a nano sim for it, is ATT going to give him grief if they notice that the phone is rooted/custom rom'd?
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U don't need to activate the phone on Att. You can tell them that you need a nano sim at a store and they will give it you. insert it and you should be good to go. U will need to activate the sim for your line.
When I activated my N6 i just asked for a new nano sim. I even declined them adding my imei on the account.
They activated the sim. I made a call and checked data and walked out. No issues.
qnc said:
I even declined them adding my imei on the account.
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Out of curiosity, why?
It came from an issue along time ago. So I just refuse to have it on the accounts.
qnc said:
It came from an issue along time ago. So I just refuse to have it on the accounts.
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Understood. It it is anything others could benefit from, would you mind sharing?
cam30era said:
Understood. It it is anything others could benefit from, would you mind sharing?
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Yeah no problem.
I had activated some phones through a third party seller. You know, the authorized agents. While activating my new phones I did not realize that he was writing down the imei from my old phone.
I'm a phone junky and switch phones on my account all the time. Hell on my 1 line today I have used Nexus 5, iPhone 4s and Nokia 1020.
Everything was fine for a while then the new phone stopped working.
Called Cust svs and they told me that my imei was bad I switched phones and then my old one did not work. It was reported stolen too. The guy I bought the phone from reported the imei as stolen, but he reported the wrong one from his list and gave another. So he said.
Now my old phone and new phone were not working. He said it was a mistake. He did not ask for any money or ransom for the imei, but that stopped me from buying on contract i always pay full price for unlocked phones and when ATT ask for IMEI I always decline since I don't carry insurance on my phones.
I admit it was probably a freak incident but I don't give it out anymore and decline when asked.
I'm sure that ATT has a way to get the info, I just don't provide it.
Now I sound like the crazy old guy with a tin foil hat.
@qnc,
Actually you don't sound crazy at all. It's an interesting story, and I think we all could take a lesson from it. Caveat emptor.
FWIW: I don't believe a carrier can get your IMEI directly from your device.

Carrier Locked? Sim Locked? UICC Locked? What state is my phone in?

I bought an SM-N960U used off of letgo about a month ago now and I have been trying to get it to work for me but I am still having a few issues.
The guy I bought it from, who himself bought it used, was using it on T-Mobile and I am able to make and receive calls okay and get internet okay with Verizon. The phone was originally a Sprint phone. It continuously gave me "Activation was Unsuccessful" fullscreen messages repeatedly until I used adb to disable com.sec.omadmspr and com.sprint.ms.smf.services.
When swapping SIMS from different carriers the phone DOES NOT ask for an UNLOCK code.
When I first got the phone I tried to call Sprint and ask if the phone was Carrier locked thinking that if there was a small amount owed or something perhaps I could pay it and UN-Carrier Lock the phone... Well, that didn't go well. Since I wasn't on the account and couldn't provide the name or phone number of the old owner they wouldn't tell me if there was OR wasn't a carrier lock on the phone. Eventually I got them to take the IMEI but they still told me nothing.
So, I've been using the phone daily for about a month now, but because of it's problems (the app that won't run) I still have to carry my old phone as well. This phone is always on Roam. One time when trying to fix it I dialed the *228 PRL update number. That was a mistake. It broke my internet to the point where NO ONE was able to fix it. I went to a Verizon stone. No help. I called customer service. No help. They transferred me to Tech Support.... finally they had me swap in one of my older SIM cards and they programmed that one to work.
TLDR; The phone works with VZW voice and data, but is always on roaming, some apps refuse to work properly, under UICC Unlock the phone says it is locked to Sprint Sims and sometimes the data connection drops and it says it doesn't work because of "Data Roaming" being disabled.
What version of locked is my phone? Is it safe to start flashing it?
ref: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...h-firmware-t3958791/post80093967#post80093967
you probably has nothing to do with your problem but it may be of some help if you contact the guy mentioned in this thread for the LG V20, it's a guy that works for sprint and you can contact him on the Sprint Users forums ..
He may be able to help you with the sim unlocking of your phone, there's nothing to lose I think!
give it a shot ... look at this thread and then register for an account on the Sprint Forums and look for the guy..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/lg-v20-ls997-successfully-unlocked-oreo-t3835061
You need to contact the person who sold you the device and ask them for assistance. As they may need to contact Sprint to activate the device and unlock it for you.
kbrn said:
you probably has nothing to do with your problem but it may be of some help if you contact the guy mentioned in this thread for the LG V20, it's a guy that works for sprint and you can contact him on the Sprint Users forums ..
He may be able to help you with the sim unlocking of your phone, there's nothing to lose I think!
give it a shot ... look at this thread and then register for an account on the Sprint Forums and look for the guy..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/lg-v20-ls997-successfully-unlocked-oreo-t3835061
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Hey thanks! I looked at this link and think maybe this guy can help. I sent him a message!
Hoping for the best!
iceepyon said:
You need to contact the person who sold you the device and ask them for assistance. As they may need to contact Sprint to activate the device and unlock it for you.
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Thanks, but the guy I bought it from bought it used, so he wont have any Sprint account info, so then I'd have to try to track down the person he bought it from... and on and on and I dont know how long or fruitful the search would be... and again... I'm on the phone right now, on Verizon with a Verizon SIM. I dont think its carrier locked... but then I dont know what's going on.
towdy said:
Thanks, but the guy I bought it from bought it used, so he wont have any Sprint account info, so then I'd have to try to track down the person he bought it from... and on and on and I dont know how long or fruitful the search would be... and again... I'm on the phone right now, on Verizon with a Verizon SIM. I dont think its carrier locked... but then I dont know what's going on.
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They don't want to make it easy for people to re-purpose stolen phones. There are things a legitimate owner can do in order to make a phone ready for re-sale, and it sounds like these things didn't happen for the phone you bought. It all sounds a bit fishy, doesn't it?
gruuvin said:
They don't want to make it easy for people to re-purpose stolen phones. There are things a legitimate owner can do in order to make a phone ready for re-sale, and it sounds like these things didn't happen for the phone you bought. It all sounds a bit fishy, doesn't it?
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Thanks, but if I thought "it sounds a bit fishy" I probably wouldn't have bought the used phone in the first place... and I certainly wouldn't have called Sprint and given them the IMEI and asked them; the people that could render my phone a useless brick, with one tiny bit of information, for help. Each smart phone I've bought in the last few years has been used because frankly to me it seems to be the best way to buy them financially. $1000 the day they come out or $200 - $300 6 - 12 months later used.
towdy said:
Thanks, but if I thought "it sounds a bit fishy" I probably wouldn't have bought the used phone in the first place... and I certainly wouldn't have called Sprint and given them the IMEI and asked them; the people that could render my phone a useless brick, with one tiny bit of information, for help. Each smart phone I've bought in the last few years has been used because frankly to me it seems to be the best way to buy them financially. $1000 the day they come out or $200 - $300 6 - 12 months later used.
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Point is, when someone is about to buy a used phone from a stranger, make sure it is factory reset and then immediately call the carrier and confirm the IMEI is clean and that it has been carrier unlocked, else, don't buy it. Obviously it's not advice for you, since you already did it the wrong way. This is a good lesson for posterity.

Rooted on Verizon

I'm thinking about switching from T-Mobile to Verizon, but have zero experience with Verizon and would like to confirm that there won't be any problem using their network if the phone is rooted, modded, running a custom rom/kernal, etc. I can't get a straight answer from them.
Thanks
PhilipTD said:
I'm thinking about switching from T-Mobile to Verizon, but have zero experience with Verizon and would like to confirm that there won't be any problem using their network if the phone is rooted, modded, running a custom rom/kernal, etc. I can't get a straight answer from them.
Thanks
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Should be fine but think they lock the bootloader I'm from UK so may be wrong lol
jaythenut said:
Should be fine but think they lock the bootloader I'm from UK so may be wrong lol
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Thanks for your reply. Yes, I've always heard it's impossible to unlock the bootloader on Verizon's own branded phones. I won't be buying from them, however, but directly from Google. Being able to unlock the bootloader is imperative for me. I have rooted and modded every one of the phones I've owned, starting in 2010 with my Nexus One
HTC GOOGLE NEXUS ONE PB99100
HBOOT: BLACKROSE 7.35.5017
ROM: CM10.1-20130403-VJ-6.0
KERNEL: 2.6.38.8-MSKU-KERNEL-JB
BASEBAND: 32.50.00.32U_5.1.2.00.08
RECOVERY: 4EXT-1.0.0.5 RC9
(that's how we made our signatures back then) and I'm not going to stop now. I can't even imagine using a phone that I can't root, mod, tweak, and run custom roms and kernels on.
Because I've been on T-Mobile since before it was even called T-Mobile (when there were only dumb phones), the only knowledge I have about Verizon is based on what I've read here over the years, mainly complaints that if you buy a phone from Verizon, it will be locked down, completely and forever, even once it's been paid off, and even if you buy it outright. Buying a Verizon-branded phone, therefore, is out of the question. But I do, unfortunately, need to switch to Verizon's network because T-Mobile's coverage is unacceptably spotty outside of urban areas. Yes, they are always building out their infrastructure and buying spectrum, and now they have acquired Sprint's, but I need reliable service, right now, in the suburbs of New York, where I visit my parents regularly now that they are getting on in years.
So, to make a long story short I am buying an unlocked Pixel 5 from Google and would like to make sure that it will work on Verizon's network once it's been rooted, modded, etc. If anyone recently has used an unlocked, rooted phone on Verizon, I'd greatly appreciate your advice.
Thanks
PhilipTD said:
So, to make a long story short I am buying an unlocked Pixel 5 from Google and would like to make sure that it will work on Verizon's network once it's been rooted, modded, etc. If anyone recently has used an unlocked, rooted phone on Verizon, I'd greatly appreciate your advice.
Thanks
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There are a bunch of rooted phones on VZW network with the P4 line so I can't see why the P5 would be any different. Personally, I'd unlock it and leave it not rooted, then test it out. Then root it and test it. If any test fail then you still have a window to return it. And if it doesn't work (which I highly doubt) then it's a matter of priorities, coverage vs rooting. Dollars to doughnuts it will work rooted. G Pay might be another story but I presume you don't really care about that.
PhilipTD said:
Thanks for your reply. Yes, I've always heard it's impossible to unlock the bootloader on Verizon's own branded phones. I won't be buying from them, however, but directly from Google. Being able to unlock the bootloader is imperative for me. I have rooted and modded every one of the phones I've owned, starting in 2010 with my Nexus One
HTC GOOGLE NEXUS ONE PB99100
HBOOT: BLACKROSE 7.35.5017
ROM: CM10.1-20130403-VJ-6.0
KERNEL: 2.6.38.8-MSKU-KERNEL-JB
BASEBAND: 32.50.00.32U_5.1.2.00.08
RECOVERY: 4EXT-1.0.0.5 RC9
(that's how we made our signatures back then) and I'm not going to stop now. I can't even imagine using a phone that I can't root, mod, tweak, and run custom roms and kernels on.
Because I've been on T-Mobile since before it was even called T-Mobile (when there were only dumb phones), the only knowledge I have about Verizon is based on what I've read here over the years, mainly complaints that if you buy a phone from Verizon, it will be locked down, completely and forever, even once it's been paid off, and even if you buy it outright. Buying a Verizon-branded phone, therefore, is out of the question. But I do, unfortunately, need to switch to Verizon's network because T-Mobile's coverage is unacceptably spotty outside of urban areas. Yes, they are always building out their infrastructure and buying spectrum, and now they have acquired Sprint's, but I need reliable service, right now, in the suburbs of New York, where I visit my parents regularly now that they are getting on in years.
So, to make a long story short I am buying an unlocked Pixel 5 from Google and would like to make sure that it will work on Verizon's network once it's been rooted, modded, etc. If anyone recently has used an unlocked, rooted phone on Verizon, I'd greatly appreciate your advice.
Thanks
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Root will not make any difference at all only gpay maybe but like you I've rooted all my phone's on lots of networks in UK and all been fine so will be fine for you I'm sure
bobby janow said:
There are a bunch of rooted phones on VZW network with the P4 line so I can't see why the P5 would be any different. Personally, I'd unlock it and leave it not rooted, then test it out. Then root it and test it. If any test fail then you still have a window to return it. And if it doesn't work (which I highly doubt) then it's a matter of priorities, coverage vs rooting. Dollars to doughnuts it will work rooted. G Pay might be another story but I presume you don't really care about that.
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Thanks for the encouraging info and the great idea of testing it out, which made me realize that I can get a prepaid sim from verizon and see if they can activate the Pixel 5 after I unlock and root it. Thanks
jaythenut said:
Root will not make any difference at all only gpay maybe but like you I've rooted all my phone's on lots of networks in UK and all been fine so will be fine for you I'm sure
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Awesome, I really hope that's the case

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