2.1 vs 2.5 - Favorite People Folder, Softkey Shortcut - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development

I'll try not to digress too much but there seems to be some ongoing topic of Sense 2.1 vs 2.5. For many it is the "eye-candy" and challenge of and fun of flashing and trying new things (that hits me intermittently) but for others that use the phone a lot for business it is about usability, speed and stability.
For the most part it seems like the People Tab is one of the main usability issues for 2.5 vs 2.1.
I have partially answered this by making icons and using a program makecall.exe and adding links to my Programs Tab for another separate icon based Favorites page.
I think I can really hone this down if someone can help me come up with a way to have one of the Manila Home page softkey open up a Folder (that I have located in the Start Menu in a Folder called "Dial". I know how to change the softkey to point to a .lnk of program but I don't know a way to get the Softkey to open up a Folder in the Start Menu ...
if I can get help with this then I can (at least for me) greatly improve 2.1's usability while still getting its better performance

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No suggestions on how I can make a Softkey for Manilla Home Page or otherwise point to a Start Menu/Programs folder ????
This Folder has Icons associated with a Makecall.exe .lnk for various Favorites in a stacked format , like in Manila 2.5
???

In the registry hklm\software\htc\manila
You put the lnk or exe path for the file explorer in either either HomeLSKPath or HomeRSKPath then change the HomeLSKArguments (or HomeRSKArguments) to '\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Whichever folder you want'
pretty sure that should work.
I pretty much gave up on Sense 2.5 because of the lack of programs tab, ok you get quick links but you don't get many, and if you use one of the many mods to get more it just slows Sense down even more, I do miss HTC messaging in sense 2.5 though, I know it was slow but it just had some great features.

The problem with this is that it opens the folder in a different way than when I click on the Dial Folder I created in the Start Menu.
When I click on the Dial Folder in the Start Menu I get nice icons that I created for my Favorite People (or Programs , or whatever I wanted to put in there)
When I do it through the File Explorer I get a list of the links and not the nice Icons

The only thing I can think of is either somehow creating a program to automatically press start and navigate into the folder, or you could look at using a different file explorer, there might be one that sets it out like the start menu

I think if I could get this working I could make 2.1 almost perfect , at least for me!

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How to make changes to HTC homescreen...

Hello!
I would like to make som changes to the preinnstalled homecreen on my HTC s730, but i don't know how. I like it as it is now, but the weather service and the top ten person i would like to cut away. Somebody who know how I can do that? Is it possible to do other changes on it too?
Yeah, theres an XML file in the windows dir I believe of the phone that you can edit and make changes too, I added the most used programs under my calander while I try to find something for that contacts bit I never use.
There was another thread where people were posting pics of what they had done and had more tips, but essentially you just edit that xml. I dont recall the name for sure but it was something like HTChome.xml or something like that, not at home ATM or I would be of more use lol...
the files have the suffix .home.xml
http://forums.sbsh.net/index.php?showtopic=5203
yep
i lost my htc home screem
can you help me and send me yours?
thanks
10332007 said:
Yeah, theres an XML file in the windows dir I believe of the phone that you can edit and make changes too, I added the most used programs under my calander while I try to find something for that contacts bit I never use.
There was another thread where people were posting pics of what they had done and had more tips, but essentially you just edit that xml. I dont recall the name for sure but it was something like HTChome.xml or something like that, not at home ATM or I would be of more use lol...
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How did you do that? When I try to find the windows folder (via active sync) It won't show up on my pc screen, but when i use the HTC i fid the folder. How come is that? I can find the folder Home, with the preinnstalled windows homescreen bur not the HTC homescreen. It seems like it's not visible(?).
kjeg1 said:
How did you do that? When I try to find the windows folder (via active sync) It won't show up on my pc screen, but when i use the HTC i fid the folder. How come is that? I can find the folder Home, with the preinnstalled windows homescreen bur not the HTC homescreen. It seems like it's not visible(?).
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Oh yea... they're hidden files... you have to enable viewing hidden files in windows explorer to see them.
What ^he said I always enable hidden file viewing every time I format so I didnt think to post it
bigflavor said:
Oh yea... they're hidden files... you have to enable viewing hidden files in windows explorer to see them.
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Thanx
Now I've got another problem. Because the weather service and the top ten person is defined in the following file in reg. {B0C8Ac4B-CddC-4010-AAEB-076A2A6EB171}, but this file is just a path to another file HTCHome.dll. My problem here is that I can't find the file HTCHome.dll. I just find a bunch of HTCHome.dll files. All of them has an ending of *.mui. Like HTCHome.dll.0809.mui. and I can't open them eather. Somebody knows what to do?
And thanx for the help from everybody so far
Anybody please? I'm pretty green in this
Where are you seeing those? Are you sure your in the right section of the phones file system for the home screens?
Connect through active sync, then open "My window's based device" then go into application data, then Home and mine are all in there as .xml
10332007 said:
Where are you seeing those? Are you sure your in the right section of the phones file system for the home screens?
Connect through active sync, then open "My window's based device" then go into application data, then Home and mine are all in there as .xml
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I have found the file HTC.home.xls and opend it, inside the xml document I find this line of code:
<plugin clsid="{B0C8AC4B-CDDC-4010-AAEB-076A2A6EB171}" name="HTCHome" height="100" />
I have managed to fint out (at least I think so) that it is this plugin who shows the clock, the weaterservice and the top ten persons. When I found the B0C8AC4B-CDDC-4010-AAEB-076A2A6EB171} in regedit the value of this key is HTCHome.dll. When i search the whole phone for this dll file i can't find the spesific file, just a bunch of "lookalikes" like HTCHome.dll.0809.mui. This file is located in the windows directory with 5 dll files like this one, but with different numbers at the end. (ex. *.dll.041D.mui and so on). Or am I totally wrong here? Maybe it's a easier way to do this? (Make the weater service and top ten in the homescreen disappear).
kjeg1 said:
I have found the file HTC.home.xls and opend it, inside the xml document I find this line of code:
<plugin clsid="{B0C8AC4B-CDDC-4010-AAEB-076A2A6EB171}" name="HTCHome" height="100" />
I have managed to fint out (at least I think so) that it is this plugin who shows the clock, the weaterservice and the top ten persons. When I found the B0C8AC4B-CDDC-4010-AAEB-076A2A6EB171} in regedit the value of this key is HTCHome.dll. When i search the whole phone for this dll file i can't find the spesific file, just a bunch of "lookalikes" like HTCHome.dll.0809.mui. This file is located in the windows directory with 5 dll files like this one, but with different numbers at the end. (ex. *.dll.041D.mui and so on). Or am I totally wrong here? Maybe it's a easier way to do this? (Make the weater service and top ten in the homescreen disappear).
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Good work. Each CLSID is a different plugin. Each value nested within the CLSID is a modifier. If you want, say... the Most Recently Used items on your HTC home screen... take a look at the contents of one of the .home.xml files that has the MRU listed... and copy out the whole portion of the file that contains the information. They're even indented.
bigflavor said:
Good work. Each CLSID is a different plugin. Each value nested within the CLSID is a modifier. If you want, say... the Most Recently Used items on your HTC home screen... take a look at the contents of one of the .home.xml files that has the MRU listed... and copy out the whole portion of the file that contains the information. They're even indented.
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Aha, this is really good to know =)
But what to do when I want to remove something in a plug in, is that possible at all? In the plug in i talked about in my last post, there is three functions.
Number one shows the clock and makes it easier to acsess the alarm setting directly (without have to do so via configuration -> clock and alarm),
number two is the HTC Home weather service
and number three is favourite persons.
I wan't to remove the two last functions in this plug in.
kjeg1 said:
Aha, this is really good to know =)
But what to do when I want to remove something in a plug in, is that possible at all? In the plug in i talked about in my last post, there is three functions.
Number one shows the clock and makes it easier to acsess the alarm setting directly (without have to do so via configuration -> clock and alarm),
number two is the HTC Home weather service
and number three is favourite persons.
I wan't to remove the two last functions in this plug in.
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It's quite possible that there is no way to only display parts of the plugin... as this function would have to be programmed into the plugin itself.
Take a look at the other plugins... like the one that shows appointments... you will see that there are portions labeled "text" which is the place where the text would be... you could... in essence... remove this part and have it not display text, but the plugin would still be present.
I hate to say it... but without HTC having programmed a solution to handle your request... you're better off using Facade.
bigflavor said:
It's quite possible that there is no way to only display parts of the plugin... as this function would have to be programmed into the plugin itself.
Take a look at the other plugins... like the one that shows appointments... you will see that there are portions labeled "text" which is the place where the text would be... you could... in essence... remove this part and have it not display text, but the plugin would still be present.
I hate to say it... but without HTC having programmed a solution to handle your request... you're better off using Facade.
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Okai, I just have to live with it the hehe.
I have finally found out how to use fascade in i properly way. I actually don't need to use the default fascade homescreen (who by the way is quite terrible), but I can just use the plug ins. Is there by the way any clock plug in (maybe in fascade?) who makes it possible to set the alarm easy without going thru configuration? If there is, I can just remove the whole plug in in HTCHome and replace it with this.
Hi..nice to see some Homescreen-Interested guys here.
First;
The HTC-Live Homescreen-Plugin is limited to his Functions (Time,Weather,Favs) and not customizeable, there maybe a solution to edit some images like Weather-Icons or the Time-Font,thats all...not like his big Brother on HTC Touch(better to configure,two more Functions, MRU and MusicPlugin).
Sorry.
You can add and move any plugin on your Phone by editing the XML, but dont ask me for an HowTo,please...look into the other xxx.home.xml, it is really easy to customize the HomeScreen.
Some Infos:
The Plugin itself is in /Windows/HTCHome.dll, the .mui Files are LanguageFiles, you can modify and rename them to translate the plugin into your own Language, the HH_WEATHER_01-44.png and all the other HH_blabla...png files are the Images for the Clock,WeatherIcons...,
Happy editing...
kjeg1 said:
Aha, this is really good to know =)
But what to do when I want to remove something in a plug in, is that possible at all? In the plug in i talked about in my last post, there is three functions.
Number one shows the clock and makes it easier to acsess the alarm setting directly (without have to do so via configuration -> clock and alarm),
number two is the HTC Home weather service
and number three is favourite persons.
I wan't to remove the two last functions in this plug in.
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Me too, I wanted to remove those two services. I took some fiddling with the xml-file and several plugins, but I managed to make something that looks quite like the Htc Home screen but has just the functionality I want.
Big other advantage is that I now suffer a lot less of the famous memory leaks.
See the result below.
jvlerick said:
Me too, I wanted to remove those two services. I took some fiddling with the xml-file and several plugins, but I managed to make something that looks quite like the Htc Home screen but has just the functionality I want.
Big other advantage is that I now suffer a lot less of the famous memory leaks.
See the result below.
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Please post your .home.xml file!
yeah - can you post the .home.xml for your fake HTC theme? it looks real nice!
thanks

shortcut icon for all control panel applets

I am sorry if it's a super N00b question... However, I searched high and low (in Google) but can not find any solution yet...
I am using UltimateLaunch and try to create a tab with all control panel applets. I know how to make a shortcut for each applet (instructions here: http://www.ppcsg.com/index.php?showtopic=51882)
, however, they all show up same default icons.
I tried also to add "?/windows/ctlpnl.exe,-5000" inside the .lnk file, however, this trick works only last century (WM2003) and WM6.0 seems use a complete different number/mechanism since I can never guess the number index right!
I tried to use tools mentioned here: http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=176117 but none works for Kaiser. Is there a better tool or way to extract the icon or assign a shortcut with icon? (I know all those icons are stored in ctlpnl.exe, however, how to get the index is the key question)
Or is there a easier way to get out the ctlpnl.exe and use Resource hacker to find the index? (the only way I know of is to download a Rom image and it's hell lot of works!)
Thank in advance!
Here's also a thread about shortcuts, maybe you'll find the answer to your questions there....
This is what I use.
I too have Ultimate Launch. I just create a link to the attached exe. It opens up the setting folder just as WM6 would. Unfortunately the link posted above doesn't have a way to open the settings root (at least not that I saw).
Also included in that zip file are some other useful exe's. I particulaly like wisSystem.exe for seeing quick system info.
Thanks for the link as well as those useful small utilities, I think I can add some more functionality to my Kaiser.
However, since I would like to directly link to the control applet in the UltimateLaunch with a valid icon on the Today screen, I still need a way to get the icon to make it more visual plesant. Right now I am using the "text icon" of UL to get by....
Thanks anyway!
lssong99 said:
Thanks for the link as well as those useful small utilities, I think I can add some more functionality to my Kaiser.
However, since I would like to directly link to the control applet in the UltimateLaunch with a valid icon on the Today screen, I still need a way to get the icon to make it more visual plesant. Right now I am using the "text icon" of UL to get by....
Thanks anyway!
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Wisbar Advance Desktop allows that.
http://lakeridgesoftware.com/products/pocketpc/WisBarAdvanceDesktop/
Not Free but both of Chirs McKay's programs are WELL worth the 10 bucks each. IMHO

folders in start menu

How do i make folders in start menu so it makes life easier to view. any help. thanks
Go in through active sync and navigate to the start menu section and create a new folder.
My only issue with this is that some programs do not want to relocate their icon no matter how many times I move it heh. Seems as though if they were not installed into that folder they dont really want to move.
I am sure one could fix this by changing the path of the shortcut but I dont care enough now that the recent program list on my home screen containes everything I really use lol.

application sorting? Help!

I've installed 50+ applications on my new HTC kaiser (which runs WM6.1 OS), its getting a little bit embarrassed because its very hard to pick a program up from the sea of icons.
Is there any way could possibly sort applications into different folders? (e.g. all gps applications go to a "gps" folder, all instant msg applications into a "IM" folder?)
btw, Is it possible to create a shortcut for the "green" application in the "programs" page(no installation needed, just run it in the file explorer) ?
thanks in advance!
jldiablo said:
I've installed 50+ applications on my new HTC kaiser (which runs WM6.1 OS), its getting a little bit embarrassed because its very hard to pick a program up from the sea of icons.
Is there any way could possibly sort applications into different folders? (e.g. all gps applications go to a "gps" folder, all instant msg applications into a "IM" folder?)
btw, Is it possible to create a shortcut for the "green" application in the "programs" page(no installation needed, just run it in the file explorer) ?
thanks in advance!
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You can add as many folders as you want. Just use a decent file explore & create as many new folders as you want in \windows\start menu\programs
Then cut & paste the shortcuts located in \windows\start menu\programs into the new folders...
I have many programs & my programs page has about 7 folders. You can even add custom folders & Icons by adding a resource file & a ?xxxxxx location direction command to the end of links....
For instance I have in my start menu a Phone & Messaging folder with all my phone & mressaging apps. Another for Multimedia.
got it!!!!!
Big thanks to *legendary* GSLEON3!
Legendary??? Well, ok, I guess in my own mind at least...
I'm nobody, Just a guy that can read & has been around long enough to know that you will learn more reading old Blue Angel & Hermes threads than you will anywhere else. Sure, most of the stuff won't work on Kaiser, but all of our tools & methods are adopted from there. The theory behind everything lies in those old threads.

Palm Application replacement

I switched from Palm to the Sprint TP with WM 6.1 (I love the change). When I had my Treo, there was a program called Sharklinks http://www.ludustech.com/sharklinks/ . It was great. It would create a palm launcher icon (shortcut), that was related to a browser url.
You would click on the shortcut, it would launch your browser, and bring you to the site.
Is there any such program that will work on the sprint TP.
TIA
You have a few options. If you want to access the icon from the today screen, you can add the URL shortcut file as a document to Today plug-ins like Resco Explorer.
You could also drop the URL shortcut into your /Windows/Start Menu directory or /Windows/Start Menu/Programs to get to it other ways.
I made the switch from Palm OS several years ago and am never going back.
use touchflo
as i recall, touchflo 3d displays your favorites from opera on the internet tab under the youtube link!
I guess I am trying to figure out how to create the url shortcut.
I want to set up a folder under the start menu for streaming radio stations.
I then want to setup shortcuts in the folder so that when I click on them the Station starts to play.
Do I just copy the URL, and past in the folder to create the shortcut for that url.
I am a windows maniac, but I am just learning WM 6.1
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Is there a way to create folders in the Start menu in WM6.1 Pro? And, to this guy's point, is there a way to make an item in the Start menu be a URL?
I figured my problem out. I was able to click on the radio station links, and they created ASF files in the music folder. I then used Shortcut Creator to create shortcuts to the ASF files in a folder in the programs section of start up.
And to answer JonDeutsch's question: the easiest way is to access your mobile device re: activesync, go to the directory windows/startup/programs, and right click, and new folder.
Hope that helps.
P.S. I still have not figured out how to actually create a URL Short cut that I can put into any folder I want. This community is a great group of developers. This would be a great program to develop.

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