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Just because its new im guessing? I sure hope its a passing fad, its hideous and now i cant hardly find a google themed custom rom anymore. whats the deal? Theres several roms id like to try but all of this custom theming crap is just ruining my rooted experience...big time bummer wish i knew how to take off a theme...
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Just because its new im guessing? I sure hope its a passing fad, its hideous and now i cant hardly find a google themed custom rom anymore. whats the deal? Theres several roms id like to try but all of this custom theming crap is just ruining my rooted experience...big time bummer wish i knew how to take off a theme...
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I think people like the pre theme because its very well done. Personally, its not my style... but I think its nice
What rom are you trying to flash? Most devs release their roms without a theme.... in any such case, most themes don't affect performance as long as they are themed correctly.
Don't like it either. actually have got sick of all the hero themes to.
Uhm, why do people like you have the audacity to try and criticize peoples efforts. I personally like the theme but have no interest in using a theme. You shouldn't have created this thread, you make this forum look bad. Instead you should try and create a theme you like yourself, see how hard it is. Then make a constructive reply that would benefit someones efforts.
have you seen the newest theme for cyans 3.9? i like it, it flows well. but please do not hate his work.
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Just because its new im guessing? I sure hope its a passing fad, its hideous and now i cant hardly find a google themed custom rom anymore. whats the deal? Theres several roms id like to try but all of this custom theming crap is just ruining my rooted experience...big time bummer wish i knew how to take off a theme...
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Wow the fact you had the nerve to post something like this is horrible. If you dont like their work just dont flash it. I use the pretheme because its nice, clean, works with cyan3.6.8.1 and is mostly clear so that my background sets most of the theme instead of some other themes that i dont prefer (although i appreciate their work) where the stuffs color is already set.
Most Roms come looking just like your g1 should have. Maybe a custom background or clock that are easy to change or remove. So try to wipe before you install something else!
whether its looks "good" or not is based up on ur opinion, but I think a lot of people like it cause its like a theming break-through. Its something different other than just changing the colors.
Themes just provide a visual enhancement. I like it if some people look at my phone and see an awesome theme, it makes the phone look like it's got bling.
Personally, I find themes softer on the eyes and some themes are relaxing eg. Cool Blue or another one.
..&& the palm pre is a slick phone && the OS is so freshh!! omg i wish i had the full OS compatiable with my g1! i love it so much lol!! i like the OS better than the iphone
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Just because its new im guessing? I sure hope its a passing fad, its hideous and now i cant hardly find a google themed custom rom anymore. whats the deal? Theres several roms id like to try but all of this custom theming crap is just ruining my rooted experience...big time bummer wish i knew how to take off a theme...
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What was the point of this? You just made a thread to bash hours of hard that someone put in just because you don't like it. Lots of people like it, I do, you don't, big deal. It was obvious that this was going to push some buttons with absolutely no gain for you or anyone else.
I dont know how or why anybody above the age of 13 would take what I typed personally. I wasnt "bashing" the hard work of anybody in particular. Sorry if thats how it came off. Believe me I know these devs spend more time on this stuff than any of us deserve.
All I was trying to say is that themes are completely gay. no hard feelings
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I dont know how or why anybody above the age of 13 would take what I typed personally. I wasnt "bashing" the hard work of anybody in particular. Sorry if thats how it came off. Believe me I know these devs spend more time on this stuff than any of us deserve.
All I was trying to say is that themes are completely gay. no hard feelings
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yes themes are happy. people design themes because they find enjoyment in it,and thus are made happy. people flash themes because they like the theme and are happy with the theme; therefore, making them happy. thank you for such an insightful view
fair enough you guys win. I now find themes acceptable...ill stop making fun of them
There is a great area of criticism where the person who feels the need to express their opinion does so in a constructive way.
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All I was trying to say is that themes are completely gay. no hard feelings
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Must. Refrain. From. ...Commenting!! *sigh*
trolling and flaming, hardly a constructive thread.
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hi guys, i am very much happy to see that there is so much of activity going on to strip down tattoo & install whatever ROM we want... but its also sad that its not successful....
to me, its very cluttered in this forum, there are so many threads about getting an entrance to tattoo from various sides so that we can cook its ROM.
just tell us how far you developers are from obtaining success for your hardwork ???? we all cant wait to install 2.1 on our cute little tatoo....
guys, give us the good news ASAP..... please....
getting the 2.1 on ur tattoo is no big deal, HTC most probably will release it sooner or later. the real challenge here is gaining root access to the tattoo in order to install some really useful applications. so far all paths that devs have tried have met roadblocks, hopefully some day an S-Off SPL will be made or acquired from somewhere which should help.
also i found this http://www.androlib.com/android.application.uk-co-neilandtheresa-instantroot2-qAmj.aspx i don't know how it works, nor do i know if it will work on the tattoo if some devs here could look into it and explain how it works and whether it will on the tattoo(considering that they haven't found a loophole in the current kernel yet) i guess it would be great.
is it so difficult to know how tattoo works & what all its loop holes are even after releasing source code ??? i must really appreciate the hard work of those guys who did bring out this tattoo... hats of to you guys... you have really made this little wizard a hard to crack one.... we all must appreciate...
does anyone here knows how to install 2.1 on my tattoo ??? i am more than happy if i know the steps to update to 2.1. i dont want to root this tattoo if it seems so difficult to do it... why crack our head for almost impossible thing ???
anyway, may be cyanogen has not developed any interest in developing custom ROMs for tatto... it looks strange to me either...
may be some high end hacker / tech freak who knows in & out of linux must lead us to the victory path. i dont know when that day comes.... waiting for that to happen ASAP with fingers crossed.....
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is it so difficult to know how tattoo works & what all its loop holes are even after releasing source code ???
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Simply yes. Having the sourcecode doesn't automaticaly mean it is easier to crack a system (that would be bad for Linux as a server operating system since it is opensource...)
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does anyone here knows how to install 2.1 on my tattoo ??? i am more than happy if i know the steps to update to 2.1. i dont want to root this tattoo if it seems so difficult to do it... why crack our head for almost impossible thing ???
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It actually looks like the tattoo has got a very clever security system that makes it impossible to flash roms on it that aren't officially signed by HTC. May be we will never be able to crack this wall. Beeing able to root the Tattoo might be the only option to flash custom roms on the tattoo in the future.
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anyway, may be cyanogen has not developed any interest in developing custom ROMs for tatto... it looks strange to me either...
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There is a big interest and I hope to see cyanogen on tattoo one day, but as you already read it looks like custom flashing depends on rooting. Might be that we will see 2.1 on tattoo in 2 weeks or never. An unsatisfying situation, I know!
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may be some high end hacker / tech freak who knows in & out of linux must lead us to the victory path. i dont know when that day comes.... waiting for that to happen ASAP with fingers crossed.....
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Some of them are even here but the combination of much work to be done and less time means all of you have to wait. And Linux was never ment to be a crackable system... ;-)
But crossing fingers is always a good idea.
Bastian
thanks for ur answers.... we are all in the same boat i guess....
but i got one question for you, how could the google nexus be rooted before its official launch ??? it is also android phone which means linux back bone suport it has got.... so we all know that tattoo got released much before the nexus. by rules, nexus should have tough security system & should have shown better resistance towards hacking, but its not the case anymore....
but why tattoo only is like that ... means so adamant to reverse engineering ??? i simply hate that... being free for all & open source, why in the hell you restrict the hardware/software options & make it difficult for all ?? anyway, we will pay for the applications which we like to use & moreover apss are not that expensive??? even then why do you do so ???
i am in the mood of selling my tattoo & getting either hero or nexus.... this is so rediculous.... definitely, may be because its cheap people are not putting enough hard work or not at all showing any interest in making this little nerd dance to our tunes.... this is so pathetic.... i hate this device..... i am selling it ASAP....
Heya.
The Nexus is open because Google decided so. It wasn't "hacked". All you have to do is use fastboot to unlock the device and then you can flash whatever you wish to it. The Tattoo doesn't have this option, like many devices before and after it, so we need to crack it, to root it and then we'll be able to flash whatever we wish to it. I'm 100% sure that the Tattoo will be rooted, maybe not today or tomorrow (and again, who knows) ?
I suggest you do what I did: enumerate why you need root or custom roms on this device. Is it really that important ? How long are you ready to wait for them ? If you need root and custom roms right now then my advice would be to sell your Tattoo and get a Nexus. If you can wait a little longer then let's see what's around the corner
Me, personally, I love the design of the Tattoo. Preety small and powerfull. My better half as a Hero but I still prefer the Tattoo. If I can get a custom rom on it, that would be interesting. If I can get root so I can mess with it, that would be very cool. If I can help other people to get root on it, that would make my day.
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mf3
I have only recently got my Tattoo and at the moment I am happy with it being debranded from Orange. I've not really played with it at all yet, so need to see what apps I need to put on it. Cooked roms would obviously be a bonus but happy so far.
People are working around the clock on rooting the HTC Tattoo. But, these hackers also have a real life too. Therefore, they can't spend 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year hacking full-time, they would need to eat, sleep, walk, run, swim and the like.
People need to understand this. No matter how hard it is, we'll succeed.
Personally, I love the HTC Tattoo. It's the best phone I ever had. Seeing a CyanogenMod port for the Tattoo once rooted would be epic. I'll be cooking ROMs when mine's rooted.
We need to be patient. Rome wasn't built in a day. Sit back from the computer. Read our hacking stories in other threads. Absorb the knowledge others are sharing. Test out our exploits. Give your two cents on the handset. Give feedback. Enjoy the community.
Without people like the ones that are now in the Tattoo scene, the Tattoo would be dead in the water. Unloved and unwanted. IMO, I brought this because I thought the Dream was bulky and the Magic was limited. I was thinking of getting a Hero, but now, Tattoo is where I'll stay.
I hope what I said will encourage others to wait before they ask "IS IT OVER?". It's not, unless we raise the white flag.
Yea, I quote everything. There are lot of people working for us... testing and testing spending time and money (some people bought the tattoo just to root it) just to give us the chance to see something new on our cute little but powerfull device.
They are diehard and they don't give up if they couldnt root the tattoo... they continue to work on it...
so.... I think the best way is to give em help and another important thing is to say....
...oh thank you guys.... your work is really appreciated...
I think its the best way to encourage them !
ok, i will wait.... sorry if i have hurted anyone here... i saw several threads with different loop holes getting discovered every other day... hence i asked so.
please dont mis-understand me... i am also here to help you guys..... let me know what help i can offer here to help this little bomb to root....
i would be more than happy the day when it gets rooted just like many others.... hail tattoo.... hail the people who are working on it.... keep up the good work bros.... good luck..
I got help here to root it so I could get a proggy on there that would allow me to get fonts in larger sizes and yes, I'm very happy. HOWEVER, my HOT SPOT feature is not working and I"m guessing that pimpin' it is what did it and NO, I'm too stupid to fix it and the guy that helped me rooting it had no idea what to do. I'm close to Charlotte, NC and I was wondering if there's anyone around here that could help me? Ie, rooting it AND getting my hot spot stuff to work which is one of the reasons I bought this one and paid a small fortune for it.
Thanks and yes, I would be glad to pay a lil' sumptin' for it, take you out to lunch or help YOU out in any way.
George
you may be a noob, but seriously you didn't really expect anyone to have sympathy did you?, we all started somewhere.. hint: start by reading the stickies
God forbid someone would have sympathy but NO, the crying icon was there to spruce the thread up.
I have gotten great help in forums and I've run into a lot of a$$holes if that answers your question?
As for reading the stickies, I have a reading comprehension problem so that doesn't work for me. Of course, you may want to say that this is bull$hit
and I'm just trying to make it easy on my self and yes, I am but no, the reading thing is not bull and reading instructions are useless.
Last time, I had someone talk me through it in a chat and it worked but took around TWO hours. This would not have happened if it had been
done through here or e mail. You'd be talking days or weeks just getting the thing rooted.
However, I"m not sure how helpful your reply is? Plenty of that around the web. Lots of replies in help forums but LITTLE help. Mostly people that
think their $hit don't stink and that they can say anything just 'cause they're anonymous. Sounds like my neighbor. She used to talk all kinds of
$hit about EVERYONE and tell me how she stood up to someone and told them this or that to their face but she never did. Just told ME how damn
cool she was but I never saw any proof of it.
Yeah, it's easy to have an opinion online and make comments about any damn thing...
guiri_too,
Post in your local listings (Craigslist, for example). I'm sure there's probably someone in your area that can help you out.
An online forum isn't really the best setting for what you need. You need someone that knows what they're doing (no offense) to look at your phone and do what needs to be done. Otherwise... read through the threads, find rooting/modding instructions, get a custom recovery image on, make a backup, and flash a new ROM.
If you didn't know what you were getting yourself into, you shouldn't have done it. I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, either.
If I ONLY stuck to buying things I completely understood, I would NOT have a damn thing today and no worries, I wasn't insulted.
As for craigslist, haven't found much there but morons but I can give it a try.
However, I KNOW there's plenty of knowledge here, the trick is to find it. LIke I said, I got great help rooting it but now I see there's some problem which I ASSUME is from the rooting.
Note, NOTHING against the guy that helped me out, he did a great job and was very patient so I have no complaints, it's just that now that I found this out, I'd like to get it fixed.
Georg
well man, what you can do is give us some details too.. are you on a custom rom, or stock w/only root, also do you have stock recovery or kosh(sp) or Amon Ra's
If you know how to check you can simply go to about phone and check in there if you are on custom, usually in kernal it will have the devs name.. to find you bout recovery you get the app quickboot(in app market) and hit recovery if you have list of options and i mean a list then you have a custom recovery, if you only have 3 options then its stock..
If you got custom rom& recovery, then you can flash a different rom, this could have broken wifi or something along the way.. so what you do is find a custom rom you like( i say go with enomther) that one is close to stock as possible but with all perks taht are really needed
im new to the n1 communtiy as i barely got my n1 rooted, but i had my g1 for over a year or so and had bout 3 of those, and not much has change except the way to root it
Okie dokie Spanky, I'll see if I can figure it out and post back. I was hopin' someone local that's got more brains than I could pimp it but that's what I get for livin' in the boonies I guess
Okay, so thanks to some members for helping me find this homescreen replacement. However, I have searched for hours looking for some kind of mod for this thing, and I haven't found a one. Is it not possible to manually tweak settings like color, for instance? I can't believe this UI isn't as hyped as I find it to be.
So, can we get some devs on this to give us some tweaks and start a thread?
I know what you mean. I just d.l.'d it and really like the design/idea of it all. Right now it is very limited to what you can tweak. If you go to thier website and check out the forum over there, alot of people are giving thier ideas of what they would like to see done to this app. Hopefully the dev's are listening....
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I know what you mean. I just d.l.'d it and really like the design/idea of it all. Right now it is very limited to what you can tweak. If you go to thier website and check out the forum over there, alot of people are giving thier ideas of what they would like to see done to this app. Hopefully the dev's are listening....
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Yeah, but I think the requests are falling on deaf ears. Multiple people are saying over in their forums are saying they are simply doing compatibility updates now. I thought some Devs here at XDA could take matters into their own hands. But I just don't think there are enough people interested in it, you know? At the time of this post, 395 views of this thread and only one reply. Supply and demand, we need more people to speak up!
Very true. I'm gonna hang on to the free version for a while and see what happens. Time will tell.
I stick using this for a long time. a bit sad I couldn't "beautify" my home like others do. but in my opinion the standards color scheme are the best there is. and don't you think modding it (like adding a shortcut to one page of widget screen or a dash of power control which I really want as an upgrade) is the same as altering the whole program? is that against licencing problem? I'm quite a noob in this area...
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I stick using this for a long time. a bit sad I couldn't "beautify" my home like others do. but in my opinion the standards color scheme are the best there is. and don't you think modding it (like adding a shortcut to one page of widget screen or a dash of power control which I really want as an upgrade) is the same as altering the whole program? is that against licencing problem? I'm quite a noob in this area...
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I have no idea. It seem's that it would be, but then again, people are porting SENSE over to non-HTC devices as well, so who knows? I don't know if the free version is open source or not.
Let me know what you guys think???
A place for rookies and anvance hackers - testing ROMS and stuff!
VerizonTBolt
www.verizontbolt.webuda.com
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Let me know what you guys think???
A place for rookies and anvance hackers - testing ROMS and stuff!
VerizonTBolt
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Don't take this the wrong way, but creating a website for the Thunderbolt right now is like showing up late to a party with a 12 pack of Bud Light. Everyone will be happy you came, but you didn't bring anything that wasn't already there. Now, if you show up with a bottle of Single Barrel Jack Daniel's, you will be the shiznit at the party. So, if you can, please try to bring something different to your website. With that said, I'll be sure to keep checking on your site, it's always nice to have more people at the party.
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Thanks for the input guys!
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Don't take this the wrong way, but creating a website for the Thunderbolt right now is like showing up late to a party with a 12 pack of Bud Light. Everyone will be happy you came, but you didn't bring anything that wasn't already there. Now, if you show up with a bottle of Single Barrel Jack Daniel's, you will be the shiznit at the party. So, if you can, please try to bring something different to your website. With that said, I'll be sure to keep checking on your site, it's always nice to have more people at the party.
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To be honest, I love this idea. It's kind of hard to find updated roms and mods for any phone, not to mention the Thunderbolt. BeardedMan... Why is making a website like this, which will (hopefully) be a good hub for Thunderbolt mods and roms, getting "late to the party?" Is there another website out there like this, besides the android forms or Rom Manager? If there is, I'd like to know.
frankzua77, I would like to say thank you. If this website becomes what I think it will, it will make modding the Thunderbolt so much easier. If you need any help, just let me know.
I think the problem beardedman is referencing is the fact that there are a lot of android websites/forums already (even thunderbolt specific) and that there are a lot of much newer phones getting the attention. I have yet to not find anything I'm looking for without a 10 second search on Google. And the Thunderbolt is real close to being yesterday's superphone, if it's not already.
Plus, the problem with any of these sites is someone has to maintain it...which means sifting through posts, updating daily, etc. Unless it's a wiki that anyone can update, it's the same reason that the stickies all get outdated. Heck, it's the same reason I've started threads on many forums for many topics trying to compile information and eventually given up.
Now that I've rained on the parade and come off as a prick, I do applaud the effort...even if it doesn't stay updated or become the hub you imagine, at least you have an idea and a passion and are trying to do something about it. Don't lose that. And who knows...maybe it's just what the community needs
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/htc-thunderbolt-forum/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=940
http://www.teambamf.net/index.php/forum/15-htc-thunderbolt/
http://themikmik.com/forumdisplay.php?1004-HTC-Thunderbolt-ROM-Development
http://androidforums.com/htc-thunderbolt/
I have a "Thunderbolt" folder in my Bookmarks (just like I used to with my Incredible) that I have the five links in. I can open all the links and catch up with all the newest Thunderbolt news, for the most part. And the Thunderbolt is old news actually, just being honest.
TUDrewser understood what I meant, I wasn't being rude. ThunderNet, trying checking the above sites, I bet you'll find answers to whatever questions you have.
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To be honest, I love this idea. It's kind of hard to find updated roms and mods for any phone, not to mention the Thunderbolt. BeardedMan... Why is making a website like this, which will (hopefully) be a good hub for Thunderbolt mods and roms, getting "late to the party?" Is there another website out there like this, besides the android forms or Rom Manager? If there is, I'd like to know.
frankzua77, I would like to say thank you. If this website becomes what I think it will, it will make modding the Thunderbolt so much easier. If you need any help, just let me know.
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Please see my sig..
Users can submit a MOD, Downlad mods or whatever right from the web.
Still a WIP, but just needs attention.
Not knocking this idea at all, but should really consider opening it up to a wiki format and not center only on the thunderbolt.
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I really appreciate everyone that makes their point, I am currently working on the page. One of my goals is to have videos that can show you a ROM even before you consider downloading it. I know we are focusing on the tbolt, who knows maybe later on this expands to having other phones and stuff...
I need your help on deciding on a domain name! Right now im using a free domain service but I would like to purchase a domain, any ideas???
Also please click on the ads on the bottom as this is how the site will be funded for right now.
www.verizontbolt.webuda.com
Interesting
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