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Is it possible ? I really want to speed this baby up to decent speeds. Ive used the kaiser tweak and i still find it slow.
Worst of all my friends make fun of it for being so slow ;_;
please search before making another thread which has been asked before
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328543&highlight=overclock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363889&highlight=overclock
Hi,
Have you tried a custom ROM? i use dutty's lite 6.1 rom, and it flyus, 10 times faster than the HTC Rom's, even switching from landscape to portrait etc, takes less than a second. (with HTC roms, it usually takes 3ish)
Scrolling through the windows directory, and opening programs is alot faster too.
Worth a bit of testing before you cook your CPU.
Tilt_8925 said:
Is it possible ? I really want to speed this baby up to decent speeds. Ive used the kaiser tweak and i still find it slow.
Worst of all my friends make fun of it for being so slow ;_;
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jockyw is right now working to see if this can be done, search kaiser rom dev for this
flashy said:
Hi,
Have you tried a custom ROM? i use dutty's lite 6.1 rom, and it flyus, 10 times faster than the HTC Rom's, even switching from landscape to portrait etc, takes less than a second. (with HTC roms, it usually takes 3ish)
Scrolling through the windows directory, and opening programs is alot faster too.
Worth a bit of testing before you cook your CPU.
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Will i need windows 6.1 for it ...?
Can you also please link me to the tweak , and also to WM6.1 if needed?
I currently have 6.0 , Thanks
Doesn't exist yet. Read the sticky in ROM development for more information. This thread is closed, very redundant.
HELLO, every kind souls out there
I looking into changing my HTC Touch Enhanced to a Diamond.
I would like to get some infor regards to the performance of Diamond.
Anyone can give some feedback on this Diamond???
I had heard tat the 3D Flo interface is kind of lagging, the touch interface is lagging as well.....
Is these true?
No.
Especial with the enormous speed of new ROMS available, those little bugs from the beginning are less and less.
Thanks Riel,
I understand that the lagging problem can be reduce by change newer ROM.
but is there offical ROM from HTC??
I dun wan to void the warrenty from HTC, so i'm looking at offical ROM from HTC....
I am using the latest official ROM from HTC for my region (1.37.401.3 WWE) - seems pretty quick to me
adesonic said:
I am using the latest official ROM from HTC for my region (1.37.401.3 WWE) - seems pretty quick to me
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I have the same version but swedish... it infact IS lagging and bugs out alot, atleast for me and two of my friends, that is for 3 persons. For instance going to sms/email "tabs" takes ages and the animations arent really so smooth for anything. But i do agree that this is probably something thats going to be fixed very soon even officially from HTC roms and even with these problems it is still a great phone that i love to use.
I get no lag at all on SMS/ Messaging tabs on this ROM, animations are smooth.
The only time I experience lag is just after closing Opera - seems to take the device a couple of seconds to settle down after using that prog.
So is 1.37.401.3 WWE the latest version of ROM around for diamond?
I jus saw the diamond at the shop....
I"M GOING CRAZY....
i love the diamond phone...
I worry the software will be slow ... cos i'm using Touch Enhanced now... i feel the software is slow....
Especially when i urgently need to open my contact list to find phone number....
there are times when i feel like throw my Enhance on the floor while waiting for the contact list to appear....
Could anyone compare the speed between Touch Enhanced and Touch Diamond?
so many threads about this, so many...too many. over and over again....nobody bother to search, first post-first thread...damn!
now, i am calm, i am cool and nothing can make me use the politically incorrect words like noob and other not so flattering adjectives...
lagging is relative. depends what you expect. go and read reactions at the new ROMs (6-7 threads maybe), you'll see the improvements, stop believing what you "had heard"
and if you are so worried about loosing the warranty don't buy the diamond. personally i don't get it...what the rush when making a call, why use the contacts list when you have:
-smart dialing.
-favorite contacts (with pics) for the most used contacts.
btw, i bet you have over 1-200 contacts. i have 600 and over 1200 numbers i don't see any lag.
now, is that enough? can we stop this thread?
Hi everybody, I recently got a Diamond2 and found that the enormous amount of expertise and help available at xda-developers have really helped me enjoy this phone. The phone is not locally supported by any carriers or retailers in Canada so the availability of these forums have been a real help. I've run through most of the issues I've had with the phone (really like the Pro2 Interface better but was way to bulky) but have a few remaining that I haven't been able to find satisfactory answers for, hope you guys will be able to help.
I've downloaded and played around with what seem to be most of the prerequisite softwares: Advanced Config Tool, Klaxon, Changescreen etc. and have also made a couple of registry modifications to enable TF3D rotation and things like that. Here is where I'm getting into a bit of trouble. Although changescreen is a great app I just don't like to install a lot of things on my device and decided to try the regedit. After a soft reset it seemed to work great but was quite slow in switching over to landscape and back. At first I though this was a problem with the g-sensor so I opened up Opera to try it out and found that it was much faster. Obviously it's a lot less graphically intense but I was playing around with a Touch Pro2 before I bought the Diamond2 and it is also significantly faster, with the same processor and everything. I've tried to reduce the sampling time for the g-sensor down from 200ms to 100ms in ACT but that didn't really seem to help. Also I get some really weird lines across the tops of TF3D pages in landscape; in the All Contacts page for example the bar that contains "Search Contacts" will have at least three sets of distorted lines across it at regular intervals across the page. The wallpaper also seems to malfunction as instead of staying as it was, it will stretch across the width of the screen and as a result become extremely distorted. The dialer doesn't go into landscape but that seems to be a common issue. I've downloaded the Rhodium Phone Dialer although I haven't had a chance to install it yet, maybe that will fix the dialer issue.
I do have some app installed that changes the background of all tabs to be the same and this seems to have messed with the transparency of the tab bar and, occasionally the phone will fail to respond to screen swipes that would usually cycle through the tabs without using the tab bar. Maybe this app is also causing the other problems.
The help on these forums has already been a great asset and I was just hoping that I would be able to get some simple fixes for the issues with the landscape thing without having to install more software. Thanks in advance for any help, its all appreciated. Cheers.
PS, rom is 1.39.421.0 (47382) WWE
what you can do to improve things:
1. ditch stock rom and use tess rom
2. install flipit for rotation software - its better than the rest IMO
Thanks for the quick reply
Thanks for the quick reply, sorry I wasn't able to reply right away, got a bit busy at uni.
I was a bit apprehensive about installing a new rom but the one you recommended is amazing. The speed increase alone is unbelievable, doesn't even feel like the same device.
Everything is working great and the rotation is really fast now on everything except TF3D. It almost looks like it attempts to rotate and then fails. The title bars rotate around and then rotate back. I've added the regedit, manually removed and added it back into flip_it, but nothing seems to be working. Aside from that everything else seems perfect. Hope you'll be able to help, and once again, thanks.
oh yeah.. forgot to mention about manila in landscape
go to search and look for At0mAng & Danny_and_2 TF3D2 Tweak cab for topaz
install, and in the list of programs, there is option called Manila Rotate ON.
and thats it, you are all set...
hope this helps
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1. ditch stock rom and use tess rom
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Can I ask where to read and get this rom?
I am also new to Topaz.
Running on stock ROM
been reading around. reading on the various rom threads to decide which to use.
I am looking for something stable, fast (aren't we all?) and 6.1. Still got Manila and hopefully with Titanium built in. Also if possible with ringtones removed.
What would you recommend?
Thanks
Goondu said:
Can I ask where to read and get this rom?
I am also new to Topaz.
Running on stock ROM
been reading around. reading on the various rom threads to decide which to use.
I am looking for something stable, fast (aren't we all?) and 6.1. Still got Manila and hopefully with Titanium built in. Also if possible with ringtones removed.
What would you recommend?
Thanks
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tess = topaz essential
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529260
Almost there
Thanks for the tip about the tweak program, installed it and followed your directions, manila is now rotating. However, its still incredibly slow; in the range of 3-5 seconds for transition to landscape and then around 1-2 seconds back to portrait. Also, those distortive lines I described earlier are back.
I was hoping for the kind of speed seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPVgN5QuzO4 but I do realize that its a different rom. I've disabled and enabled TF3D and also done a soft reset, but no speed increase. I was thinking it may be a hardware issue but everything else works fine. One thing I have noticed though is that since installing this rom some programs get stuck half rotated and the other half of the screen will display the TF3D home page. Once again, thanks for all the help so far.
P.S. If I disable TF3D the blank today screen will rotate at the same speed as in that video if not faster. Also before when the menus rotated but not TF3D they were rotating at the same fast speed.
yes, I know what you mean.. at this stage, manila rotates pretty slow for me too...
I guess at the moment, we have to live with it... the slow rotation only happens on tf3d2 rite? the rest is ok...
as with hardware issue, I am sure it is not, cause topaz is still relatively new...
btw, Manila 2.1 is around, and manila 2.5 is coming too... so, maybe they would give better performance .
btw, the youtube link is a rom made by Tom Condon, and as you probably know, he is very active in building rom for topaz too... why dont you give him a message, or try his rom...
Tha
sorry double post again..
Sounds good
Glad to know that it wasn't just a one off issue. I'll give his rom a shot, was kind of wary b/c of the comments that said WM 6.5 was slow. Would you be able to direct me to somewhere that I'd be able to download TF3D 2.1 alone without a rom upgrade or anything or maybe even cooked into the TESS rom. Thanks for the incredible quick reply and for all the help so far.
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Glad to know that it wasn't just a one off issue. I'll give his rom a shot, was kind of wary b/c of the comments that said WM 6.5 was slow. Would you be able to direct me to somewhere that I'd be able to download TF3D 2.1 alone without a rom upgrade or anything or maybe even cooked into the TESS rom. Thanks for the incredible quick reply and for all the help so far.
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if you follow tess forum, then the next release would have manila 2.1
Thanks
Ye, sorry about that didn't quite follow the forum all the way, I guess I'll be waiting. Thanks man.
Hey Everyone,
I really need you to answer this question.
Are all Leo Roms laggy?? especially when you enter the Sub-Menues or is my xperia just screwed up and not delivering the right performance. For some reason, All leo roms I have tried are not usable because they are
A. : to Unstable
B. : have extreme a good 2 second lag when switching from Tab to Tab in TF3D
C. : Get even slower after a few programs are launched and closed again
D. : Sometimes the call button reacts 10 seconds after I pressed it and the whole device goes into rage mode; executing all commands I tried to press in desperation at once.
Is that all normal? are all Leo Roms practically unuseable?
Please let me know
Thank you so much
The HTC Leo device has not even been released. The Leo Manilla is a work in progress... It's Beta quality. The Leo device uses a 1GHz CPU much faster than the 528MHz CPU in the X1. We should be thankful that the cooks make it usable even at all.
I'm sure as Leo Manilla matures, it will become faster and more responsive. Until then, you should not really use it if you cannot put up with the lags.
Many of the Leo Manilla features have been implimented in the latest 2.1 Manilla. Soooo, just use one of the cooked Roms with the latest 2.1.1919 Manilla.
If the Leo Manilla is too unusable for you, then jsut don't use it.
If you want to see how far Leo ROM development has come I recommend Agent_47's Valkyrie 3.8.53 Leo ROM. Fast, stable, decent battery usage. Some things have a little lag, but definitely usable and not enough to be irritating.
It is the first Leo ROM I have tried that I would consider using every day.
I would not call them unusable.
IT really depends what you do with your phone, how many applications you run simultaneously.
For me it is very frequent to connect via bluetooth to my car system, listen to muisc while using GPS sat nav, while keeping PUSH email active in background, RSS reader and weather update.
Leo ROMS tend to get extremely laggy in this kind scenario and if I Receive a call everything goes to hell.
However, if you are not a power user, Leo can be fine.
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Hey Everyone,
I really need you to answer this question.
Are all Leo Roms laggy?? especially when you enter the Sub-Menues or is my xperia just screwed up and not delivering the right performance. For some reason, All leo roms I have tried are not usable because they are
A. : to Unstable
B. : have extreme a good 2 second lag when switching from Tab to Tab in TF3D
C. : Get even slower after a few programs are launched and closed again
D. : Sometimes the call button reacts 10 seconds after I pressed it and the whole device goes into rage mode; executing all commands I tried to press in desperation at once.
Is that all normal? are all Leo Roms practically unuseable?
Please let me know
Thank you so much
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never say never
try by Agent Valkyrie_v3.9.60!
and be surprised
forget about the other LEO ROMs like Touch-IT / Rota / ...etc ..
when it comes to LEO, Valkyrie is your friend
it is very stable / usable / even fast !!
A ROM without Landscape is useless when using the Hardware-keyboard... That makes LEO useless!
I usually HATE the newer ones, as PCTech4U and Smaberg/mr rusch's TouchX roms are better BUT i must say Christian's Rom and X1Owner's X10 rom's are good.
I am currently using X10's rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564298
It's VERY fast, got all the eye candy you could want! Try that. I was just doing my weekly backup and flash a new rom to try, but i've stuck with X1Ov1.2 LEO WM6.5.1 23060 MANILA2.5.1919.2828 R3A ENG (WWE) [ONLINE] as i've been impressed.
IF only that came without Manilla 2.5 as I dont mind the default windows 6.5 style.
add a poll the results may surprise you
i tested a few 6.5 leo roms and i really hate most of them. as you said, they are not nearly as responsive or stable as 6.1
i dont think that we will ever get fast, stable and smooth leo based rom even after the final release of leo. its just made for a device that has much much better specs than our x1 (hd2 has 448MB memory with 1GHZ ).
I agree, X10 seems to be the best for now.
I know this has been going around for a while. The whole WinMo 6.1 with Manila 2.5 issue. And I know a lot of people have said it doesn't work. But it does. There have been some concept ROMs made, that use 6.1 with 2.5.
Would it be possible, for one of the more experienced chefs, to try and cook up a ROM that had these two together. While 6.5 is very good now, and it has grown on me a lot, WinMo 6.1 with Manila 2.5, is actually an excellent combination.
I tried outies ROM with this mix, and it was very fast. The only problems, were small bugs that needed someone experienced to fix.
We all know 6.5 is good now. Much better than it was before. But 6.1 is also still excellent. Combined with Manila 2.5, it could be an excellent mix. HTC Sense and 6.1. A great combination. Please think about it chefs. I bet you would be surprised by how many people want to use it.
*sign* i search also a 6.1 with 2.5 manila...
amen to that, I agree completely !
I second this from here to infinity.....but I doubt any chef will take the challenge
Outie's kitchen
Hi,
Outie actually posted the whole kitchen with his ROM, so I am trying to tweak it a bit, something like Mikedomain's ROM. I have got PC2USB popup and Smaberg's action screen working properly, but still struggling with some other issues. If I get it tweaked nicely I will post it and maybe the whole kitchen if people want to play with customising. I won't be able to offer support, however, although I will try. There's a good chance I can't improve it much, because I am completely new to cooking, but it's worth a try.
I won't post anything if I can't make it as good as mikedomain's.
For now I suggest trying his ROM and messing with outie's kitchen if you are brave.
-Oobly
I would only be curious to hear the answer of some serious chef....
Like y ?? .....they waste hours and hours of work on 6.5 roms that will never by any means be as good as 6.1 roms....and for what, a horrible start menu and some kinetic scrolling....if you ask me not worth it...best roms ever are pctech4u, jackx 3.x and touch x by mr.rusch if those had 2.5 on top....that would be....HOT !
darkhalf520 said:
I would only be curious to hear the answer of some serious chef....
Like y ?? .....they waste hours and hours of work on 6.5 roms that will never by any means be as good as 6.1 roms....and for what, a horrible start menu and some kinetic scrolling....if you ask me not worth it...best roms ever are pctech4u, jackx 3.x and touch x by mr.rusch if those had 2.5 on top....that would be....HOT !
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amen
i just cooked a wm6.1-rom with manila 2.5 (german) just to get the experience. I can't really understand why you guys want the old wm back...
the experience was horrible compared to all the wm6.5 roms out there. the only thing i really like in wm6.1 is the drop-down-startmenu. but.....
it is possible to modify the wm6.5 startmenu to show up in list-view (not exactly but nearly 6.1 experience).
What's the real reason you like 6.1 more than 6.5?????
I really can't get it.... ugly themes... scrolling in settings/programs without scrollbar-use etc.......
6.5 is the logical evolution of wm6.1... flashing back now from this horrible 6.1 experience to wm6.5......... never again turning back.......
second to that! there is nothing I like in 6.1, sorry ...wont ever look back
the only reason that i want 6.1 (and use it actually with manila 2.1) ist stability. i have tryed a lot of 6.5 roms and all make me crazy. freezes every day (especelly in standby and charging).
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the only reason that i want 6.1 (and use it actually with manila 2.1) ist stability. i have tryed a lot of 6.5 roms and all make me crazy. freezes every day (especelly in standby and charging).
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Like I said in that thread, I never experience standby freeze in 6.5. 6.1 is more responsive but 6.5 has better memory management IMHO.
Well, whatever the reason, people seem to want a 6.1 ROM with manila 2.5 cooked by someone with enough experience to iron out the kinks, me included. In fact I want it so badly I am trying to cook one myself (making some progress, too).
IMHO, 6.5 is slower, less responsive, and has retarded volume key and close app functionality. Some of the latest builds of 6.5 are closing the gap performance-wise and some features are better, but the app closing and volkey functionality are enough to keep me away.
Each to their own, but if all the cooks are cooking 6.5, people who want 6.1 ROMs are left unsatisfied. On that note, there are some chefs cooking 6.1 ROMs, but they all seem to be using manila 2.1. Touch X is a good example of a 6.1 ROM. Fast, stable, looks nice. And it is very popular..... If only Smaberg would come back and cook us a Leo ROM... (sigh).
Exactly as Oobly said !!
How come you guys can't see a reason why we wish for 6.1 with 2.5 manila guys ..... Seems like responsiveness and stability and SPEED are pretty neglected these days....bfff makes me angry
Hello to you all, it can be done, but the time it takes to modify some files to get it to work as it should ain't worth it. And after using 6.1 with 2.5 after a day makes memory go heywire... therefor 6.5 is better, the original ROM for touch pro 2 is the most stable sys build for the x1 but with 2.5 its somewhat slow, but the leo sys build on x1 works better, but with more bugs, so combination is hard, but i recomend the TP2 sys build, with latest LEO xip.
And back to 6.1, as i wrote it can be done quite easy, but you'll need anyone with experience to edit dll files cause it referes to some files that aint in 6.1, all this info came from a source in HTC, so i can't confirm it myself though.
wish you all the luck on this one, i would be glad to help, but without a X1 it would be to hard.
Smaberg its a pity u can't do this.....could you put a nice word for us with MrRusch ??
Oobly said:
IMHO, 6.5 is slower, less responsive, and has retarded volume key and close app functionality.
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What you are describing is 6.5.1 (not 6.5)
HTC volume and close button work the same as 6.1 on 6.5 (just take a look to the official 6.5 rom on Rhodium, or Topaz.
Thanks for your input, Smaberg and Jack!
I know at least HTCScroll_2 isn't compatible with 6.1 and this causes problems in the album and I am sure I will find more. In this case we can use an older version of album, but then you can't save pictures as footprints. It's a long road, but worth a try. I am certainly gaining respect for the experienced chefs!
Maybe official 6.5 is good enough, but I have already started down this road and I believe the performance will be better on 6.1 still. Will have to see.
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ROM seems to be usable now.. some small issues, but nothing huge so far (no hangs / manila restarts, etc.) Maybe I will post what I have done so far this evening or tomorrow if I can get it uploaded somewhere. I need to do some tweaks still....
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Oobly said:
Thanks for your input, Smaberg and Jack!
I know at least HTCScroll_2 isn't compatible with 6.1 and this causes problems in the album and I am sure I will find more. In this case we can use an older version of album, but then you can't save pictures as footprints. It's a long road, but worth a try. I am certainly gaining respect for the experienced chefs!
Maybe official 6.5 is good enough, but I have already started down this road and I believe the performance will be better on 6.1 still. Will have to see.
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ROM seems to be usable now.. some small issues, but nothing huge so far (no hangs / manila restarts, etc.) Maybe I will post what I have done so far this evening or tomorrow if I can get it uploaded somewhere. I need to do some tweaks still....
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keep us updated.....ur our hero !!
I just dont get it really guys ...even you can make wm6.1 working with the latest goodies (can't imagine how hard that would be), but in the end where do you guys go from there? wm6.1 is ended, and is no longer developed.
wm6.5 is still under development, but there are choices coming from certain branches that did prove stability and speed (build 21874 is the latest i tested of this kind). And yet it is still developing and sometimes newer build just failed.
wm6.5.1 is new gui with start button at the bottom part of the screen so this is another challenge. Kinetic scrolling is gone for whatever reason, but you can slide left and right at status bar at the top part of the screen.
I'm not a cooker and yet about to dig in some into more depth. Read a lot, pick the rom you want to flash and pm the chef what official rom he started before the work. You can always predict the result by doing the same routines - flash official rom, hard reset, flash custom rom, hard reset and always follow direction given by the chef carefully, and follow what other flasher find and tweaking bugs. This is how we develop i believe.
but still i do appreciate that some ppl still opted wm6.1, it is just the way it is i guess
Phoenix ROM
Hi all,
My 6.1Leo ROM is now up! Get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4956394#post4956394
And please read all of the first 4 posts.
-Oobly
P.S. @deepthroat, I have yet to see a 6.5 ROM that gives the same benchmark scores for graphics as a good WM6.1 ROM. Usually at least 20% less speed. I don't think our X1 devices can handle 6.5 AND manila 2.5 nicely..... yet. Maybe 6.5 will improve to the same point soon.