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Ok this may be a dumb question but I have been searching for the answer and can not find it any where. I want to unlock and have the screen come on( comeout of standby) by sliding the keyboard out.
Like when you flip out the screen on the side kick.
I have the 2.17 custom rom by xelencin if that helps.
Thanks
I really want that feature too!
To add a same thing to your question, can i unlock the machine with one hand?
I have smartkey installed but everytime i try to unlock the screen, it said I have to press Unlock, and there is no way to press it with a softbutton, i have to either do it with a stylus or the keyboard....
baraider said:
To add a same thing to your question, can i unlock the machine with one hand?
I have smartkey installed but everytime i try to unlock the screen, it said I have to press Unlock, and there is no way to press it with a softbutton, i have to either do it with a stylus or the keyboard....
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why not use your thumb?
huangyz said:
why not use your thumb?
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and leave fingerprint smurk on the screen you mean?
The only problem I could see with sliding to turn on / unlock etc is that the magnetic catch on the standard case would then activate the switch on etc... I'm sure it would be possible to intercept this trigger in some way even when the OS is in standby but I can see issues with the device turning on when used with the standard case...
The screen doesn't rotate when you open the keyboard until aftr the device is turned on, which suggests to me that the position of he keyboard isn't monitored by the device when it's switched off. If this is the case ten it would be impossiblt to have the keyboard switch turn the device on.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yep, pretty sure sliding the keyboard out does not create a wakeup event. It is possible that something like MortSaver could be used to mimic this function - that's a program that turns off the screen and locks the buttons when you press a hotkey - i.e. it doesn't put the device into standby, it just kinda puts it into low power mode. I'm pretty sure that could be rewritten to turn the screen back on when the keyboard slides out. Perhaps if you plead with the author...
Hey everyone
Has anyone else noticed that their TyTN II wakes from standby when switching between GPRS and 3G. At least I think this is why mine appears to wake up randomly! It will be sat on my desk in standby mode and then the screen will switch on and the signal strength bars will move.
I've checked to make sure nothing is running in the background and performed a soft reboot.
Any ideas?
Hi
The Kaiser does turn on at least once every hour (some house keeping tasks), and will turn on if the mobile signal is lost. However these on's are in unattended mode which means the device appears off to the owner so the screen will not come on.
If you have some software that likes to do work or updates the today page for example, that software may be detecting the device has turned on and in order to get your attention or just through bad programming, issues a power announcement to say turn on proper, hence the display lights up!
Regards
Phil
Thanks for the info, I'll have a look what I have on there and try and isolate what is causing the power ups.
Cheers for the help.
If you have sprite backup installed with the auto backup on low power option that causes occasional power ups to enable the power check.
I may have solved this issue. After uninstalling enAlarm the phone, no longer appears to be waking. I'm still monitoring it though
i have the same problem when im signed on to AIM. Once i sign off it stops waking up, but if its on it'll wake up every 5 minutes or so, and it is in fact annoying. Havent found out the solution for it yet so i just dont really use it that often
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i have the same problem when im signed on to AIM. Once i sign off it stops waking up, but if its on it'll wake up every 5 minutes or so, and it is in fact annoying. Havent found out the solution for it yet so i just dont really use it that often
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it's when a friend log's in or out of AIM.. it's a paint, rediculious and ATT refuses to get rid of OZ messanger and use a real one.
here's the kicker. it supposed to use TEXT , but when a friend logs in or out, the message is sent to your phone, and then DATA brings up the list..
STUPID and ignorant of ATT but,. big companies do what they want!
I have been having the same problem as well. I just installed this DeviceLock program:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305402
If you enable the "Lock on Wake" option, the device will be locked when it wakes up, so the backlight stays off and you won't call anyone by accidentally hitting buttons.
Also, I ran across this related thread you might want to check out (basically talking about the same thing, but for the Tilt):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335433
I use my GPS a lot and I want my GPS to be running in the background while it track logs. I am not the only person who needs the GPS to not go to sleep so there must be someone else who has found a good solution.
First I tried S2U with a option to not go into sleep mode selected. This work well but I have to have S2U launch of a hardware button and also had to slide after waking it up.
Then I started using AE button plus. Set on of my unused side buttons to turn off screen with single press. This was the best solution I found except it has made taking pictures very buggy.
So has anyone found a good solution to keep the GPS on while the screen is off keeping power consumption down ?
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I use my GPS a lot and I want my GPS to be running in the background while it track logs. I am not the only person who needs the GPS to not go to sleep so there must be someone else who has found a good solution.
First I tried S2U with a option to not go into sleep mode selected. This work well but I have to have S2U launch of a hardware button and also had to slide after waking it up.
Then I started using AE button plus. Set on of my unused side buttons to turn off screen with single press. This was the best solution I found except it has made taking pictures very buggy.
So has anyone found a good solution to keep the GPS on while the screen is off keeping power consumption down ?
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GPS on and Power down are contradictory... I measured that the GPS uses 120mA to run.
Anywho, PhoneAlarm will do it for me. I have a GPS Tracking profile (a day and a night one actually) and the phone never turns off when I have it set to those. Gotta be careful with it though, if you forget to disable it you'll find a hot phone with a low battery in your pocket later.
Have you tried to just set the settings to do it? It's not automated, but it's free. There was a thread on a program called BikeMobile which the author describes how to modify the registry to NOT allow the phone to go to sleep when a certain com port is active. I never quite grokked it, but perhaps you will. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387262
Thats going to be a nice and toastie phone all day.
Thanks khaytsus. I will try out PhoneAlarm and see how I go. I found the phone to be drawing only about 45ma when my screen was off. Just trying to find a rom to suit my needs at the moment. When I find one I will start to try to find a solution.
There are many programs like "trackme" which can log GPS and switch off screen for you. There are some standalone programs like "BlackMe" which can switch off just the screen and lock phone for you.
This one aspect of my phone has been really bugging me. We don't have the option to disable the automatic locking of our phones. You could enable an infinite screen timeout, but that doesn't really solve the problem as it introduces a new problem (increased drain on the battery due to the display being on the whole time).
It'd be nice if we could control those two settings independently. One is to be able to control screen timeout, the other would be to enable/disable autolocking our phones.
The reason this is useful for someone like me is that I usually leave my phone on the desk when I'm not using it. In my situation the auto-locking is just a huge pain because I'm not worried about accidentally hitting any buttons while the phone is on the desk nor am I worried about security/privacy issues.
Anyone see a need?
I think lockbot gives you an option of how long before the lock screen goes into affect if you'd be willing to use an app for a lock screen...
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This one aspect of my phone has been really bugging me. We don't have the option to disable the automatic locking of our phones. You could enable an infinite screen timeout, but that doesn't really solve the problem as it introduces a new problem (increased drain on the battery due to the display being on the whole time).
It'd be nice if we could control those two settings independently. One is to be able to control screen timeout, the other would be to enable/disable autolocking our phones.
The reason this is useful for someone like me is that I usually leave my phone on the desk when I'm not using it. In my situation the auto-locking is just a huge pain because I'm not worried about accidentally hitting any buttons while the phone is on the desk nor am I worried about security/privacy issues.
Anyone see a need?
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Well... I'll answer your question... But this won't be helpful (Just a warning )
A need? No.. I honestly don't find it troublesome to swipe my finger across the screen after pressing the trackball (or Power button if you're not rooted/haven't setup Trackball Wake)
So, I don't really see a need. But good luck finding someone to accomplish your request. Just seems like it'd be a fair amount of work, to remedy 1 seconds time... Just my $.02
Try ScreenModeWidget at market, free.
choose awake stay.
Try ScreenModeWidget at market, free.
choose awake stay.
Look in the market for "curvefish" he's a developer of widgets and has a lock screen on off widget that will let you turn it off then back on without having to reset the pattern. Hope that helps!
Keyguard disabler on the market. It works for me. I set it after a reboot and it works. It has a option to start on start but I just do it manually with the shortcut.
actually, i've been looking for the same solution as you are looking for! even i find it highly anoying when i keep the fone on my desk and have to sweep the screen each time i want to check it.
ideally, i'm looking for something likr what u get in the 5800.... the screen comes back on (after timning out) when you tap on the screen, unless u lock it explicitly via the hardware button...
neways, u kud try "no luck" which simply disables the lock screen. when the screen times out, pressing the hardware "home' or "lock/unlock" buttons brings the screen back on without having to go thru the unlock procedure...
Cheers,
I've been using touchscreen smartphones since the Omnia came out and never once have i needed a lock screen. I can't for the life of me work out why anyone would need anything more than a screen off/screen on button.
I'm using No Lock from the market now. It has a handy toggle widget/icon for enabling or disabling the lock function. As a bonus it allows screen wake on Trackball and volume buttons.
+1 for No Lock! It's the best way to get around that swipe pain.
Please help let me know if screen activating in pocket is a bug or if this is intended design (i.e., design flaw)?
Now that it's summer my leg can get a little sweaty. But my phone in pocket triggers off my leg due to the moisture! Then the phone will randomly edit various things as the phone bounces around in my pocket.
WTF, why won't the phone just detect the darkness and know it's in my F*ING pocket! My S9+ was really good about this, it knew when it was in the pocket and ignored my sweaty leg.
But with this retarded S21 Ultra, it doesn't seem to know when it's in your pocket. I've already lost several important appointments and tasks (my calendar and task lists widgets are on the main screen) because the dumb phone let my *LEG* edit/destroy/delete the important tasks and calendar entries.
I'm holding out hope that maybe this is not how the phone is designed to work, maybe I can fix it by doing a factory reset. But I recall other posts complaining about how the phone is too retarded to detect being in the pocket when it comes to the Always On Display (AOD) and just keeps the display on while in the pocket too. So maybe it's a fatal design flaw of the phone, where if it is hot outside and you have moisture on your leg, your phone will think your leg is typing and just randomly change things.
Please help me understand whether this is a fatal design flaw or just some bug or what!?
please disable the option to activate the phone/unlock phone via sensory detection
i believe you need to deactivate that first from the smart lock - on body detection
and then also go in advanced features, motions and gestures and deactivate lift to wake
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Used to happen to me too. Ofter i would only realise phone was awake and messing around by the beeping sounds of the dialer going off in the pocket, or the increasing temperature of the phone against my thigh - screen on for God knows how long.
Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
Turning off double-tap-to-wake screen helped me.
Now the phone only wakes up for calls and will show lockscreen only if I hit the power button (side key) - I have never used AOD, so screen stays off no matter how hard you tap away at the screen.
Unfortunaltely this puts a lot of mechanical wear on the side key (waking up the phone to unlock)
TO solve this, I have set my Fingerprint scanner "always on" enabled, so if i want to unlock phone without wearing out the side key, I just hit the screen with my thumb where i know the fingerprint scanner is, and it takes me to the home screen without showing the lock screen. I've developed muscle memory now and can hit the correct spot on the screen 90% of the time without the fingerprint icon displayed on screen. No perceptible differnence in battery life as opposed to keeping fingerprint scanner always on disabled.
This has worked for me. Maybe you can try it out and see if it solves your issue.
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Used to happen to me too. Ofter i would only realise phone was awake and messing around by the beeping sounds of the dialer going off in the pocket, or the increasing temperature of the phone against my thigh - screen on for God knows how long.
Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
Turning off double-tap-to-wake screen helped me.
Now the phone only wakes up for calls and will show lockscreen only if I hit the power button (side key) - I have never used AOD, so screen stays off no matter how hard you tap away at the screen.
Unfortunaltely this puts a lot of mechanical wear on the side key (waking up the phone to unlock)
TO solve this, I have set my Fingerprint scanner "always on" enabled, so if i want to unlock phone without wearing out the side key, I just hit the screen with my thumb where i know the fingerprint scanner is, and it takes me to the home screen without showing the lock screen. I've developed muscle memory now and can hit the correct spot on the screen 90% of the time without the fingerprint icon displayed on screen. No perceptible differnence in battery life as opposed to keeping fingerprint scanner always on disabled.
This has worked for me. Maybe you can try it out and see if it solves your issue.
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I dont think that would put any mechanical stress on the power key.
Phones are tested for upto millions of press of buttons which you woudnt be able to achieve in your lifetime .
I have my aod on always , and double tap to wake on always .
Best possible way to avoid accidental wakeup is to insert your phone with screen facing away from the body i.e towards the fabric of pants/jeans/lower
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please disable the option to activate the phone/unlock phone via sensory detection
i believe you need to deactivate that first from the smart lock - on body detection
and then also go in advanced features, motions and gestures and deactivate lift to wake
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Yes, lift to wake was already disabled while the problem happens. The phone still wakes from "taps" caused by the leg.
I want to clarify, the problem is not caused by the phone unlocking or locking.
The problem is because the phone is not ignoring screen taps when in the pocket. It thinks I'm double-tapping to wake the phone.
I'd like to keep enabled the smart lock on body detection, and keep enabled the double-tap to wake. I can see how keeping the phone locked would help, but the root problem is still there - the phone wakes up even though it is inside the pocket.
Keeping the phone locked would just transform this to a new problem - how do I prevent my phone from waking up in my pocket and wasting energy while my leg enters various unlock codes by itself.
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Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
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Yes, the S21 Ultra refers to this as "Accidental Touch Protection." The flavor text explains "Protect your phone from accidental touches when it's in a dark place, such as a pocket or bag."
Accidental Touch Protection has been turned on when I had the problems.
Does anyone know why Accidental Touch Protection is not working, even though it's turned on?
The setting is found under Settings - Display (scroll down, 4th from the bottom).
Keep the back of the phone towards your leg, problem solved.
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I dont think that would put any mechanical stress on the power key.
Phones are tested for upto millions of press of buttons which you woudnt be able to achieve in your lifetime .
I have my aod on always , and double tap to wake on always .
Best possible way to avoid accidental wakeup is to insert your phone with screen facing away from the body i.e towards the fabric of pants/jeans/lower
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Yup, you may be right. Ideally they should last a lifetime. But all mechanical parts are prone to failure. Same thing holds true with charging ports - they shouldn't fail, but often do. Doesn't happen to everyone, but it's something to keep in mind.
I've had my HTC power key fail on me due to constant use over 2 years, and ever since then I've stuck to using the screen for wake-up. Needn't happen to everyone, but once bitten, twice shy, right?
The screen facing outwards is a good idea and it was the first solution that came to mind when I was having accidental wake-up issues. Tried it for a few days but stopped using it because it's awkward for me (camera bump irritates thigh) and it was un-intuitive to take out the phone, then turn it around in the hand to start using it. I just wasn't comfortable using it that way.
Like I said, this set-up works best for me, everyone might have their own way of doing things
All I know is that with this set-up, I don't have any more accidental wake-ups while the phone is in the pocket. That was the main requirement.
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Yes, the S21 Ultra refers to this as "Accidental Touch Protection." The flavor text explains "Protect your phone from accidental touches when it's in a dark place, such as a pocket or bag."
Accidental Touch Protection has been turned on when I had the problems.
Does anyone know why Accidental Touch Protection is not working, even though it's turned on?
The setting is found under Settings - Display (scroll down, 4th from the bottom).
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Yes, that's the one I was talking about. Like you said, it doesn't work consistently. No idea why. I've always had it on.
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I'd like to keep enabled the smart lock on body detection, and keep enabled the double-tap to wake. I can see how keeping the phone locked would help, but the root problem is still there - the phone wakes up even though it is inside the pocket.
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If you'd like to keep the tap to wake feature on, then the best solution for now appears to be what @aj7400 and @blackhawk have suggested - Keep the phone screen facing away from the thigh.
The screen of my phone frequently turns on when it is in my pocket and the phone starts performing some tasks like playing music.
Does anyone of you experience the same problem ? Is there any method to prevent accidental touches when the phone is locked ?
Edit: sorry I didn't notice this thread, so I created another one for the same problem. I'll try some of the solutions you proposed guys, hopefully it will fix the problem.
Was there any pattern to when Samsung's "accidental touch protection" failed to keep the phone screen inactive?
I'm trying to find out if there is anything going on that might affect the accidental touch protection. Normally, accidental touch protection keeps the phone screen off when the phone is in your pocket, to protect against unwanted touches or "butt dialing."
But in my case, my leg was a little sweaty and the phone screen activated and deleted some of my important info.
Has anyone else seen anything in terms of a pattern when your accidental touch protection fails to protect against accidental touches?
Maybe you had see-through pants with white pockets with direct sunlight glistening off your sweaty thighs?
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Was there any pattern to when Samsung's "accidental touch protection" failed to keep the phone screen inactive?
I'm trying to find out if there is anything going on that might affect the accidental touch protection. Normally, accidental touch protection keeps the phone screen off when the phone is in your pocket, to protect against unwanted touches or "butt dialing."
But in my case, my leg was a little sweaty and the phone screen activated and deleted some of my important info.
Has anyone else seen anything in terms of a pattern when your accidental touch protection fails to protect against accidental touches?
Maybe you had see-through pants with white pockets with direct sunlight glistening off your sweaty thighs?
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Nope. Happened to me in Dark blue denims as well as black trousers.
It's not consistent. Works most of the time but fails every once in a while.
For me, usually I become aware of it when i hear the dialer beeps (somehow the screen taps end up on the emergency call dialer screen) go to town.
Funnily enough, I turned the feature off and was roaming around the city for more than 2 hours. No accidental wake-ups at all. This is even after I have temporarily restored double tap to wake screen. Need to watch this for a few more days and if i don't get any more ghost wake-ups, i'm keeping it turned off.
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Funnily enough, I turned the feature off and was roaming around the city for more than 2 hours. No accidental wake-ups at all. This is even after I have temporarily restored double tap to wake screen. Need to watch this for a few more days and if i don't get any more ghost wake-ups, i'm keeping it turned off.
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What did you do, i didnt understand ?
ELp2 said:
What did you do, i didnt understand ?
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Turned off Accidental Touch Protection
Have you also tried just initiating LOCKDOWN MODE via the power button before a run?
I'm guessing that your leg and the sweat and the fabric combine to give the electric feel of a skin's surface that activates the phone?
You could also use a Bixby Routine to disable double-tap to wake?
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Turned off Accidental Touch Protection
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Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
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Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
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The Huawei mate 20 has much more major issues than our SK allies flagship phones do in more ways than one
I don't have these issues on the 10+ unless a put the phone facing my leg on the display side.
You should have a good case that has side protectors slightly higher than the display plus end display protection in the case ie Zizo Bolt case. Otherwise a face plant can easily destroy the display. These phones need case protection... before they kiss the concrete.
This also help stop accidental touches both when on and off. It makes the phone easier to hold and use as well.
Face the display away from your body. That should be more than enough...
If it's really still a problem limit display timeout to 1 minute.
Use only the power button or volume control buttons to activate the phone.
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Use a case clip holster.
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Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
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Well, in conclusion I can only say that the setup is working... Haven't changed anything since then and no accidental pocket mishaps yet. ATP and Double tap to wake are still off.
BTW, your idea of a Bixby routine trigger to disable double tap when heading out to walk is quite neat