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Is there an app or script could just scan the apps......

when switching back and forth between roms or just keeping up with Cyanogen's speedy update schedule, I always have problems with the market knowing which apps I have and which I don't, so I was wondering if an app or script could just scan the apps on the device internal & apps2sd them remake the marketdb to reflect what is truly on the phone??
I may be wrong but it seems as its the marketdb that keeps this info, not the market "server" so it sounds easy, but since I couldn't code my way out of a paperbag how would I know if its easy or not...
it's no big deal but it would be nice, im sure im not the only cat who has thought of this so there must be sumthing more complex than I can understand that keeps it from happening...
just an idea,
bhang

the marketdb sucks for that kind of thing. use atrackdog. it creates its own db and updates it every time you run it to show exactly what you have on the phone and scans the market for updates on request.

Backup for root users allows you to backup and restore your market database.

bengrulz said:
Backup for root users allows you to backup and restore your market database.
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That option has never worked for me...as with some of the other options in that program. The only ones that seem to work properly for me is backing up SMS and bookmarks. Sometimes backups of alarms work, sometimes not.

Su File Manager removed from phone? WTF?

I just looked at my phone, and saw 'Su File Manager has been removed from your phone. You will receive an email with details.' No email yet, and I'm wondering WTF is up. I bought this app several days ago, checked my bank account and the payment for it has cleared, so it's not an issue of payment bouncing or something. Anyone else have this happen, or know what's up?

heldc said:
I just looked at my phone, and saw 'Su File Manager has been removed from your phone. You will receive an email with details.' No email yet, and I'm wondering WTF is up. I bought this app several days ago, checked my bank account and the payment for it has cleared, so it's not an issue of payment bouncing or something. Anyone else have this happen, or know what's up?
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And this is why it is a good idea to keep a backup.
Seriously... huh?
Can you reinstall from the market?

lbcoder said:
And this is why it is a good idea to keep a backup.
Seriously... huh?
Can you reinstall from the market?
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Went to the market, reinstalled with no problem, which makes it seem even more weird, cos presumably if the app was malicious they'd pull it from the market as well as deleting it from phones. None of my backup programs seem to have the capability to backup paid apps (MyBackup, Backup for Root, or Astro).

heldc said:
Went to the market, reinstalled with no problem, which makes it seem even more weird, cos presumably if the app was malicious they'd pull it from the market as well as deleting it from phones. None of my backup programs seem to have the capability to backup paid apps (MyBackup, Backup for Root, or Astro).
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If you're rooted you can just use ADB pull to back it up over usb, and then use ADB install to re-install it over usb if anything happens.

bahnburner said:
If you're rooted you can just use ADB pull to back it up over usb, and then use ADB install to re-install it over usb if anything happens.
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My cats have chewed through every mini-usb cable I own. Was planning to go to microcenter this weekend to buy more, but in the meantime, no ADB for me. Anyway to backup app-private from in phone, using the terminal? I have root of course.

heldc said:
My cats have chewed through every mini-usb cable I own. Was planning to go to microcenter this weekend to buy more, but in the meantime, no ADB for me. Anyway to backup app-private from in phone, using the terminal? I have root of course.
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EDITED to protect the Devs.
to restore just install via astro.

bahnburner said:
mount -oremount,rw /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
mkdir /sdcard/backup
busybox cp /system/sd/app-private/NAMEOFAPP /sdcard/backup
to restore just install via astro.
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Ah, of course. Thanks!

do not abuse that command please. support the devs.

hiroots said:
do not abuse that command please. support the devs.
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There was no mention of warez anywhere in the above posts that i noticed. She purchased the applications.

hiroots said:
do not abuse that command please. support the devs.
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Warez-hunt and Witch-hunt start the same way. This is actual help, not theft.

sha.goyjo said:
Warez-hunt and Witch-hunt start the same way. This is actual help, not theft.
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Exactly. I had every intention of helping someone retain something they have already purchased. I do no steal applications, and refuse to help someone else do the same. I wouldn't want people doing it to me, so I don't want to see it happening to them.

bahnburner said:
mount -oremount,rw /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
mkdir /sdcard/backup
busybox cp /system/sd/app-private/NAMEOFAPP /sdcard/backup
to restore just install via astro.
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You do NOT need to remount the /system partition.
1) You are copying files OFF, not on,
2) Those files are NOT EVEN on the /system partition. They're on the SDCARD (in your example) which is mounted within the /system path (but is not actually part of it), but are more likely in the /data partition (for those not using apps2sd).
*** IN THE EVENT that the apps are installed to SDCARD, you can simply turn off the phone and move the card into your computer to copy them directly to your hard disk for permanent backup.

heldc said:
Went to the market, reinstalled with no problem, which makes it seem even more weird, cos presumably if the app was malicious they'd pull it from the market as well as deleting it from phones. None of my backup programs seem to have the capability to backup paid apps (MyBackup, Backup for Root, or Astro).
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The irony in this situation is that SU file browser will back up (copy protected apps) itself just fine.

Moving anything onto a fat partition that is protected is a grey area. If a mod comes across this post it will be edited. I know its only help, but xda has to cover their ass. This topic should be helped through PM's instead of being public broadcasted. The poster that helped with the commands and the person who quoted them should edit their posts now that the OP fixed their issue, the mods already got their hands full, we should help when we can.

if the devil was on earth he would wear all white and work for unicef!
Too many people allow the information of copying protected apps, so therefore people abuse this info anyone with a simple curiosity could find the info on there phone without people having to teach them like myself, but once I found the information I shared it with nobody and assume they could figure it out themselves!!! So please do not PLEASE DO NOT! Inform people how to backup paid apps! I don't know how many people read the comments in the marketplace but its full of people who steal and trade these apps blatently without regard for repercutions, leaving there email addresses and everything! So believe me intelligent people will figure this out themselves this is not information that should be googled I am personly trying to pass this information around to all moderators to ban this information so please help me in stopping this, root is a gift for people who understand not thos who follow the bandwagon to just steal apps (most of which don't cost more then 5$), strangley the people who need the help only have one thing in mind.
So please treust me if we don't stop this the idiots will win and the marketplace will crumble only the honest people keep it afloat only the intelligent should be able to obtain this precious info and they won't have to ask for the process they are smarter then that! They will find they file and already know the commands to do what they see fit for the application. This should not be easy! It should be protected by devs and moderators for the sake of the community knowledge is power unless you give a simple walkthrough to a thief or idiot or power hungry moron with no respect for others or creative artists and they use it for there personal benefit not the furthering of progress infact just the opposite!

It's only fair (as described in fair use) that users have the ability to backup their own purchases and downloads. As far as what they do with them, that's up to their own conscience. It's not ours to judge.
If they decide to illegally share it, then report them and be done with it.

The discussion on piracy is taking this thread off topic; please cease immediately.
I'd like to know more about the circumstances in which this app was removed, specifically whether it was "kill-switched" by Android Market or something else entirely.

jashsu said:
The discussion on piracy is taking this thread off topic; please cease immediately.
I'd like to know more about the circumstances in which this app was removed, specifically whether it was "kill-switched" by Android Market or something else entirely.
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I doubt that it was kill-switched. If it was, then it would have coincided with the app being pulled from the market and it is unlikely that it would allow such simple reinstall. This is, of course, assuming that they even *can* kill-switch an app like that. I have heard discussion about it, but nobody has offered even a shred of proof, so I really doubt it.

jashsu said:
I'd like to know more about the circumstances in which this app was removed, specifically whether it was "kill-switched" by Android Market or something else entirely.
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It seems pretty clear it wasn't kill-switched, since I was able to re-download it right away, and it's still available. I wish I'd thought to screenshot the alert that it had been removed, but I was so surprised to see such a thing I just didn't think about a screenshot until after I'd tapped ok.
The only explanation I can imagine, and this is purely hypothetical I've got no evidence for it, I'm just guessing, is that there was a server hiccup someplace when google went to actually collect the payment for the app. (The pre-auth for buying apps always hits my account immediately, but the money doesn't actually get taken from my account for 2-5 days.) So, google got told 'no moniez for you', and told my phone 'no app for you!', but then the server hiccup resolved itself, google got the payment for the app and I was able to re-download the app.
Since there wasn't a rash of people posting saying this happened to them, it seems clear this issue was somehow specific to me and my phone, and since I had bought the app a few days prior (well over 24 hours before the incident tho), the only explanation I can think of is the above. I wish I had some way to know what it was, but since I never did get an email about it, I'm stuck guessing.

anybody else???
has anybody heard of an instance of this happening since this original post?? anybody? or does it seem she is the only person to experience this? just for my curiosity and interests...
"fair use" huh, i wonder if that has a 24hr return policy on it?

system apps questions

i have read in a few spots that system apps are actually on a separate partition than the market apps. is this correct? if so how could you tell how much space is actually left in the system apps partition?
ive been thinking i could push some of my apps that i have no intention at all of getting rid of into the system/apps/ folder and open more space for market apps that im not so sure im going to keep. apps such as tmobile my account, myspace, facebook, connect bot, dual mount sd, visual voicemail, handcent sms, estrongs file explorer...
also if i did so would the market still recognize they are there for updates? could i remove the default sms app and replace it with handcent?
tia for any help on this

to see how much space you have in the system partition you can (from terminal)
Code:
su
busybox df-h
My partition is over 90% used and it will be the same for majority of roms so yes, you can throw couple of apps in there but not too many. Not sure if they will work or if they will be recognized by market.
Good luck.

borodin1 said:
to see how much space you have in the system partition you can (from terminal)
Code:
su
busybox df-h
My partition is over 90% used and it will be the same for majority of roms so yes, you can throw couple of apps in there but not too many. Not sure if they will work or if they will be recognized by market.
Good luck.
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df-h: applet not found
but thanks for the help

You should try to use your brain before complaining.
df -h
There is a SPACE between the command and the parameter.
This is totally standard, and absolutely OBVIOUS to ANYONE who actually thinks about it for a second!

thanks for the rude ass reply, though it worked. not everyones a linux whiz kid like you, im still learning. linux is not someones going to master in 2 months, especially when its got a gui, like android. oh but again thanks, that worked
system: 61.6m used of 67.5m
data: 61.6m used of 74.8m
kinda strange i have the same used on each partition.. and not much left on either

SmokeyJBluntz said:
thanks for the rude ass reply, though it worked. not everyones a linux whiz kid like you, im still learning. linux is not someones going to master in 2 months, especially when its got a gui, like android. oh but again thanks, that worked
system: 61.6m used of 67.5m
data: 61.6m used of 74.8m
kinda strange i have the same used on each partition.. and not much left on either
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Pay no attention. It is only common sense if you know linux syntax. Keep on learning and do not let rude responses get to you, that is what they are hoping for.

yeah i know, i read enough on here to know that theres a few senior members that get most of their post from flaming people. but i still thanked the guy lol
i must also add, every time im stuck and need help quick, the people over at cyanogens irc are very helpful and dont flame people trying to learn. dont just tell people to google, to get an iphone... they will point you to a good wiki or link or help you figure out a problem. i had big problems trying to flash RAs recovery on my newly rooted g1 with the latest ota update installed. they helped me figure out the problem, which stumped some of them, and then helped me work around it. it seems the ota update did away with the flash command i think it was.

Removing an app...
How can I remove an app that came with a ROM (ie. facebook)?
There is not an option to uninstall it from Market.
mount -o,rw /system...etc
Then just delete it from /system/apps?
Thanks

[Q] Preserving apps on a 'clean' install.

OK, so my mom insisted that she needs a Nexus One, and that I need to root it for her and put a custom ROM on. She lives in a country where Android phones are not very available. Anyway.
I know what you're thinking - I'd be stuck doing tech support for my mom. Well there was a week of that, and then she ran around bragging about her phone to all her friends, and now THEY ALL WANT ONE.
So I agreed (read: got guilted) into setting another one up for a Close Friend of the Family. Now when I did my mom's she pretty much gave me her google account info and I just set it up for her. What I'd prefer to do is install a bunch of apps and then wipe all the userinfo so they have to put in their own google account info. But when I go into recovery and do a wipe, of course, all the apps go, too.
Is there any simple way of doing this?

jethro1138 said:
OK, so my mom insisted that she needs a Nexus One, and that I need to root it for her and put a custom ROM on. She lives in a country where Android phones are not very available. Anyway.
I know what you're thinking - I'd be stuck doing tech support for my mom. Well there was a week of that, and then she ran around bragging about her phone to all her friends, and now THEY ALL WANT ONE.
So I agreed (read: got guilted) into setting another one up for a Close Friend of the Family. Now when I did my mom's she pretty much gave me her google account info and I just set it up for her. What I'd prefer to do is install a bunch of apps and then wipe all the userinfo so they have to put in their own google account info. But when I go into recovery and do a wipe, of course, all the apps go, too.
Is there any simple way of doing this?
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If the apps you're installing are free and non-protected, you can back them up with AppMonster, copy those .apks over onto the new phone, and install there. No need to set up an account for most of those.

codesplice said:
If the apps you're installing are free and non-protected, you can back them up with AppMonster, copy those .apks over onto the new phone, and install there. No need to set up an account for most of those.
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They're all free apps, so that's not a problem. I figured I could adb install, or something like what you're describing, but my concern is whether or not they'll be auto-upgraded through Market (or rather whether they'll get notifications saying updates are available).

Yes, they will be. If you use Titanium for backup, for example, you'll be able to restore the apps before logging in to Market. That's what I do when I change ROMs.

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Yes, they will be. If you use Titanium for backup, for example, you'll be able to restore the apps before logging in to Market. That's what I do when I change ROMs.
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That's pretty cool... except I realise I still need to do the initial login to the phone to run titanium backup. I want to send this to people so when they turn it on they get the "Welcome to Android!" screen, so they get the little tutorial and get to set up their account directly over there without me having to tell them "Ok click menu, then settings..." etc.
Also, I'd like to setup some applications for them - set up browser homepage/bookmarks, some ADWLauncher settings, and preferably which icons/widgets are on the desktops. I know Titanium can do that (though I'm not sure which setting is the desktop) but again, I'd have to login.
Is there maybe something I can wipe to make it rerun the intro screen?

jethro1138 said:
Is there maybe something I can wipe to make it rerun the intro screen?
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not sure if this will work but...
could you install everything you wanted then go into settings, accounts & sync click on your old account and select "remove account"
let me know if this helps

jonesy420 said:
not sure if this will work but...
could you install everything you wanted then go into settings, accounts & sync click on your old account and select "remove account"
let me know if this helps
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I think if you do that it just starts with no account, like if you start it and skip entering n account.

Just build your own gapps-style package with everything you want included, then flash it without even logging in.
Alternatively, using your own phone, backup the apps and settings, and use App Monster out similar to backup Titanium as an apk. Then you can install everything without ever having to sign in...
You can skip the initial sign in by touching the four corners of the screen when the android appears, starting top left and working clockwise...
So if you have already signed in, just follow these steps:
Wipe all data
Boot up and skip sign in
Install apps (Titanium if rooted, App Monster if not)
Make whatever settings you want
Power off
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Automate copying/back up all video and pictures taken

I have a Moto X with Republic Wireless 4.2.2 and am wondering how I automate the following...
Anytime I shoot a video or take a picture on the phone I would like to have the phone automatically make a copy of the file to a different (specific) directory on the phone for backup purposes. I would also like to know if I can do this without rooting. I'm pretty sure I can make a script or something to do it, I just don't know how I would have it act upon seeing a new file created. Also I would prefer it operate in the background without any notifications.
Thanks

EntityPacket said:
I have a Moto X with Republic Wireless 4.2.2 and am wondering how I automate the following...
Anytime I shoot a video or take a picture on the phone I would like to have the phone automatically make a copy of the file to a different (specific) directory on the phone for backup purposes. I would also like to know if I can do this without rooting. I'm pretty sure I can make a script or something to do it, I just don't know how I would have it act upon seeing a new file created. Also I would prefer it operate in the background without any notifications.
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I'm not sure how to do that but you can always backup to google +. It won't share the images unless you ask it to. I've found it quite useful for a phone that only has 16gb of storage.

brian Marshall said:
I'm not sure how to do that but you can always backup to google +. It won't share the images unless you ask it to. I've found it quite useful for a phone that only has 16gb of storage.
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This. I'm not sure having two copies of an image or video on the same device gives you any real redundancy. However letting them sync with G+ gives you a reliable backup.

Why would you backup the same image or video onto the same device? All you're doing is using more storage, of which is limited.

Thanks guys but I want to do what I said specifically. Nothing more, nothing less. The automated part is optional. I would be fine with having to hit an icon to kick off the process.

EntityPacket said:
Thanks guys but I want to do what I said specifically. Nothing more, nothing less. The automated part is optional. I would be fine with having to hit an icon to kick off the process.
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you can use rsync to do this. Android doesn't come with it, but you can install it by following instructions here: http://linux.wxs.ro/2011/08/05/rsync-your-android/. There's probably also apps in the play store that provide rsync.
'rsync -a --delete /src/ /dest/' will keep the directory /dest/ in sync with /src/
create a shell script with that in it, and you should be able to schedule it using tasker, or there are apps out there to create icons for shell scripts.

Thanks that's more what I'm looking for. Would that require rooting the phone?

Yeah....I don't get it. 2 sets of the same pics on the same drive is no fail safe at all. If you have a problem where you can't access the regular gallery stored pics, I doubt you'll be accessing the other folder either. Seems pointless?
Are you sure what you want to do is really what your trying to do?
Flashing roms or whatever won't wipe your pics by accident. And if for some strange reason your pics get wiped, chances are your backup pics will get wiped at the same time, since they are both on sd card.
Plus you'll have 2 sets in your gallery. Unless they are put in a backup apps file....which again...will be wiped along with your pics if something happens to your sd card folder.
Makes no sense.
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EntityPacket said:
Thanks that's more what I'm looking for. Would that require rooting the phone?
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The instructions indicate that you should copy it to /system/xbin/ and set the permissions to allow execute access. In order to be able to write to that directory you will need root.
In order to execute the command, you will not need root access. Assuming you're copying to someplace you have write access to.
I haven't tried this, but there's a "busybox non-root app" in the play store that contains rsync. You should be able to install that, and then you'll have access to rsync.

Look at bittorrent sync. You set it up to back up a specific folder or folders on your phone and using torrent technology, you can have it back up to your PC. I use it for exactly this purpose. All my photos of my kids and videos are automatically backed up to an external hard drive.