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What exactly is hardSPL? USPL vs hardSPL

I apologize in advance if my questions are trivial and I am just dense.
I am pretty sure I've read through all the threads for "n00bs" but I still can't get a grasp of what exactly hardSPL does or is. I ran the search function and found that I don't NEED it per say and has claimed that it actually is "safer" to use USPL.
I own a Tmobile Wing (IPL > 4.xxx)
1. What exactly is the difference between USPL and hardSPL?
2. What are the limitations of either one.. will flashing a cooked rom without hardSPL cause problems?
3. I currently have flashed the newest Open Touch 4.0 and haven't had any problems at all (USPL), but I noticed in the thread for Touch-IT, it says that hardSPL is required. What does that mean exactly? If I flashed it w/o hardSPL.. will my wing crash/brick?
4. At some point, I'd like to sell the phone, so I don't want to do anything that is irreversible. My understanding was USPL is reversible, hardSPL is not?
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks

Essentially what you are doing is changing the Bootloader so you can install a different ROM regardless if it's signed.
USPL and HardSPL is a matter of having it done temporarely or permenantly.
USPL (temporary), is the safe route. This will allow you to Install one USPL capable ROMs per USPL. So if you're not a big flasher, and thinking about selling your phone in the near future, then you might want to stick to this method.
HardSPL (permenant), is the only TRUE way of bricking your phone. You will flash the bootloader for good so that you can constantly flash new ROMs without having to worry about flashing your bootloader of making sure it's a signed ROM. For heavy flashers, like myself, this is the ideal route.
HardSPL is reversible, there are some threads on how to do that. If I remember correctly, you have to flash back to a Stock T-Mo ROM.
Some ROMs require HardSPL because sometimes the cooks use different methods to flash ROMs onto devices other than ActiveSync (which is needed for flashing via USPL).
For example, ttran001's Open Touch V4.0 Micro ROM flashes onto your device using your SDCard, the phone is never connected to you PC so no opertunity to USPL. If it was not HardSPL'd, the ROM would be rejected. If it was, the flash would continue flawlessly.
I hope this answers your questions, and please, if I got anything wrong, correct me.
Regards,

three4seven said:
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
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Oh and from what I understand, installing those cabs wont hurt your device if you dont HardSPL. I believe you can uninstall them from the "remove program" which can be found under Settings/System/Remove Programs.
Everyone's allowed a Noob question every now and then I only know all this info because I read, so im sure if you read u'll be just fine.

nKiwan, thanks for quick and throrough reply
I get a little lost with this:
nKiwan said:
This will allow you to Install one USPL capable ROMs per USPL.
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what does that mean exactly?
perhaps I should start by asking the USPL acronym stands for - I've googled it and I couldn't find the right acronym.
From my understanding.. the only real difference (besides one uspl rom per uspl vs infinite - i'm still a little hazy on that) is that hardSPL allows for flashing outside of activesync?
thanks again... I swear I tried my best using the search function and reading

Well, correct me if i'm wrong, if you do not HardSPL, then you must USPL your device everytime you wish to flash your device. This will temporarely change your bootloader so it will allow you to flash a non signed ROM, a.k.a. an "outside" ROM. USPL capable ROMs, are ROMs that you can flash using USPL, therefore, ActiveSync.
Well there are two differences I guess... HardSPL, basically, allows for flashing outside of ActiveSync; and will allow you to flash any ROM as many times as you would like, once HardSPL'd.
As far as the acronym goes, I have NO clue lol. Never bothered to find out, I guess it would be helpful to know .

nKiwan said:
Well, correct me if i'm wrong, if you do not HardSPL, then you must USPL your device everytime you wish to flash your device.
hardSPL.... will allow you to flash any ROM as many times as you would like, once HardSPL'd.
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Technically then.. I could also flash any rom as many times as I want using USPL as long as I run USPL.exe? I read the flashing guide several times. The only difference I found was that you run USPL.exe and it goes through a loader instead of just running the RUU flaser. Is that right?
i apologize once again if I am being incredibly dense.
thanks again for putting up with my n00bness

there ya go! you got it. As you become more experienced you'll start to understand the need of HardSPL.
I was once a noob myself, so i understand where u coming from . Just glad I can help.
Regards,

nkiwan - thank you so much for answering my barrage of n00b questions.
You have been a great help. I really appreciate it.

Wow I think this is the coolest thread I have read ...it is just awesome what the WWW has done for all of us and thanks for the info

Glad I can help

I can understnad the use of USPL but I would recommend the use of hard SPL if you are planning to flash multiple roms. Either way I think it is just a matter of whether or not you actually want to run the USPL everytime you want to flash a rom... Don't quote me on that.

Just to doublecheck myself....
If I use USPL method and hard reset my phone - will I have the stock rom or the flashed one?
if I understand correctly USPL will bring back the stock one after hard reset and HSPL the new one.

very sorry to ask this now..from what i get is there are 3 ways of turning ur phone from phone to super phone:
1. install .cabs
2.soft flashing
3.hard flashing???
am i rite??

nKiwan said:
As far as the acronym goes, I have NO clue lol. Never bothered to find out, I guess it would be helpful to know .
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I found this thread that you might find useful for the acronyms:xdasite.com/showthread.php?t=1104

Same was with me.....
three4seven said:
I apologize in advance if my questions are trivial and I am just dense.
I am pretty sure I've read through all the threads for "n00bs" but I still can't get a grasp of what exactly hardSPL does or is. I ran the search function and found that I don't NEED it per say and has claimed that it actually is "safer" to use USPL.
I own a Tmobile Wing (IPL > 4.xxx)
1. What exactly is the difference between USPL and hardSPL?
2. What are the limitations of either one.. will flashing a cooked rom without hardSPL cause problems?
3. I currently have flashed the newest Open Touch 4.0 and haven't had any problems at all (USPL), but I noticed in the thread for Touch-IT, it says that hardSPL is required. What does that mean exactly? If I flashed it w/o hardSPL.. will my wing crash/brick?
4. At some point, I'd like to sell the phone, so I don't want to do anything that is irreversible. My understanding was USPL is reversible, hardSPL is not?
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
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Hi Brother,
Same problem with me i have also search every where but failed... no answer about Hard spl.Every body say do hard spl and search in fourm and so on. There was no proper guide what it is and how to do. i was really puzzel. Now i have come to know that axect what it is Hard Spl.
Hard Spl mean CID unlock. If you unlock CId of the phone its mean you have done Hard SPl. Without CID unlock you can not write ROM.
Thanks
Br Raja

I have a T-Mobile Wing. I hardSPL'd it, installed a custom ROM, then I used the RUU to flash the original ROM back to it. It doesn't show the CanonYang startup screen, but the SPL version is still 4.70.Yang. Is it still HardSPL'd?

Stargazer418 said:
I have a T-Mobile Wing. I hardSPL'd it, installed a custom ROM, then I used the RUU to flash the original ROM back to it. It doesn't show the CanonYang startup screen, but the SPL version is still 4.70.Yang. Is it still HardSPL'd?
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You can always check in the bootloader screen (the RGB screen).
Even if you have a 4.70.Yang you still need the IPL to be higher than 4 to flash custom ROMs. That is what is important.
If you ever see any of these number's change, Run the HardSPL folder again.

Please help

Please Help
I really am going crazy with this rom flashing stuff. I have read the wiki for 2 days.
I understand I need to CID unlock my phone before I can apply cooked roms. But after countless searches I cant find clear info on how to CID unlock my phone.
This really is a last resort, I have been rading for 2 days with no certainty of what to do next.
Thanks

futurama said:
Please Help
I really am going crazy with this rom flashing stuff. I have read the wiki for 2 days.
I understand I need to CID unlock my phone before I can apply cooked roms. But after countless searches I cant find clear info on how to CID unlock my phone.
This really is a last resort, I have been rading for 2 days with no certainty of what to do next.
Thanks
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USPL and HSPL do this for you so you are able to flash a rom or radio. Read this page from wiki. It'll help you understand
Follow cRaCKwHoRe's guide on how to flash (can be found in my signature). If you intend to do a lot of flashing I'd flash HSPL as its permanent whilst USPL is temporary and you'd need to re-use it before every flash to new rom or radio
Latest HSPL can also be found in my signature

Ah excellent thank you so much.
So can I flash straight to the newest 1.56 rom from my current version which is 1.19.61.1WWE on orange?
Or is there a stage in between I would have to do.
Thanks again.

futurama said:
Ah excellent thank you so much.
So can I flash straight to the newest 1.56 rom from my current version which is 1.19.61.1WWE on orange?
Or is there a stage in between I would have to do.
Thanks again.
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Flashing from one HTC stock rom to another you don't need to use USPL or HSPL. But going to a cooked rom you do.
Answer to your query is it depends on route you take. If you go down the USPL route you'll need to follow cRaCKwHoRe's guide. Would take to long to explain and he as already done a very good tutorial on the subject. If you go down HSPL route, all you need to do is flash latest HSPL then 1.56 rom

That clears everything up. one last thing, which rom would you reccomend? I like the look of the enwer roms with WM6.
Thanks again much appreciated.

futurama said:
That clears everything up. one last thing, which rom would you reccomend? I like the look of the enwer roms with WM6.
Thanks again much appreciated.
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I'm currently testing Dutty's V3.4. His V3.3 is already released but I'd wait for the new release hopefully in a few days. Both are based on WM6.1. Alternatively their is so many good roms out there. I'd also recommend Davideuck, EnergyROM & L26_THDV2.2 (Laurentius26). All very good roms by very good cooks. Best thing would be to try each of them and make your own opinion

thanks again mate, you are a legend, Ill post tonight to let you know how it went.

futurama said:
Please Help
I really am going crazy with this rom flashing stuff. I have read the wiki for 2 days.
I understand I need to CID unlock my phone before I can apply cooked roms. But after countless searches I cant find clear info on how to CID unlock my phone.
This really is a last resort, I have been rading for 2 days with no certainty of what to do next.
Thanks
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Does the phone really have to be unlocked before flashing a new ROM?

futurama said:
Please Help
I really am going crazy with this rom flashing stuff. I have read the wiki for 2 days.
I understand I need to CID unlock my phone before I can apply cooked roms. But after countless searches I cant find clear info on how to CID unlock my phone.
This really is a last resort, I have been rading for 2 days with no certainty of what to do next.
Thanks
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Does the phone really have to be unlocked before flashing a new ROM? I didn`t know that

yeeehooo got it all sorted and working!
Thanks everyone involved with XDA developers.

davemazo said:
Does the phone really have to be unlocked before flashing a new ROM? I didn`t know that
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There are a few forms of unlocking but the bottom line is that you need to bypass the checking which is done in the flash process.
One way is permanat as done once no issues anymore - HSPL
Another is as and when you need - USPL.
Wiki has a walk through that needs to be upated but I thought still was useable.
Flash the new 1.56 shipped rom and then move on to cooked roms. (will help you by pass the greenscreen issue)

futurama said:
Please Help
I really am going crazy with this rom flashing stuff. I have read the wiki for 2 days.
I understand I need to CID unlock my phone before I can apply cooked roms. But after countless searches I cant find clear info on how to CID unlock my phone.
This really is a last resort, I have been rading for 2 days with no certainty of what to do next.
Thanks
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Can you tell me were you got lost in wiki so that I can correct it in a more user frinedly version.

futurama said:
yeeehooo got it all sorted and working!
Thanks everyone involved with XDA developers.
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Sorry to hijack your thread futurama but I am having the same problem. Could you let me know how you did it

Thanks HDuser. Not sure if you know where I`m up to but originally I flashed my Orange 1.19.61.1 ROM with USPL and then flashed Duttys 2.7 1.56 based ROM which has given me the green screen problem. An earlier poster suggested I flash Olinex HSPL 1.54 to cure the problem. The problem I am having now is the phone refuses to sync with the PC. I have tried Vista and XP, the PC does not hibernate or sleep or anything, the phone is set to not switch off. It will usually sync on first connection but after a few seconds it will disconnect and therefore HSPL is reporting as being disconnected.
I have tried the earlier HSPL and HSPL 1.56 (as the ROM in bootloader screen is reported as being 1.56 and SPL is 1.14). I feel I`m going round in circles and its only a matter of time before I brick the phone.
I have read and re-read the wikis but I am now just getting more and more confused.

davemazo
Look the best way to approach any problem is to go back to the roots.
Flash a stock rom, find your own stock rom and refalsh it, then take it from there.
Your post is missleading and I have no idea were to sart. One issue is your PC ist does not Hibanate, not or go into sleep mode, at the saem time you are saying that you can't sync. Sounds like you have other problems and those other problems are making you have problems with your device.

Thanks HDuser. Sorry for confusing you, but I am now totally confused myself, Basically though the phone does not sync with the PC, I have tried 2 PC`s, with Vista and XP.
But back to your point about flashing stock ROM, I have tried a link in the wiki to download the one I need which is Orange 1.19.61.1 but the link seems to be broken and I don`t know where else I can get it. It doesn`t seem to be on the Orange website or HTC.

HDuser said:
Can you tell me were you got lost in wiki so that I can correct it in a more user frinedly version.
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There is a part on the black stone wiki that mentions I need to CID unlock my phone. It says you need to do this before you can flash roms, I felt it wasn't clear that, all I needed to do was flash HSPL in order to allow me to put new roms on.
This is what I did.
1:Flashed HSPL olinex 1.14.
2:Flashed HSPL Olinex1.56
3:Flashed MIRI WM6.5 10.0WWE
only part I had trouble with, my phone wouldnt let me flash the HSPL at first, I had to use a manual thing that you launch on the device the it lets you flash the HSPL.

futurama said:
There is a part on the black stone wiki that mentions I need to CID unlock my phone. It says you need to do this before you can flash roms, I felt it wasn't clear that, all I needed to do was flash HSPL in order to allow me to put new roms on.
This is what I did.
1:Flashed HSPL olinex 1.14.
2:Flashed HSPL Olinex1.56
3:Flashed MIRI WM6.5 10.0WWE
only part I had trouble with, my phone wouldnt let me flash the HSPL at first, I had to use a manual thing that you launch on the device the it lets you flash the HSPL.
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It sounds as if you have it sorted now and everything working. As HDUser stated previously HSPL & USPL allows you to bypass the CID lock to enable you to flash new roms

Only thing I need clearing up, I can change my SPL back to the original version cant it?
Just incase anything goes tits up and I need to send it back

futurama said:
Only thing I need clearing up, I can change my SPL back to the original version cant it?
Just incase anything goes tits up and I need to send it back
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Of course you can. All information you need including original stock radio's, roms etc are available in wiki to download.

HTC Touch HD T8285-WM6.5

I have been trying different roms to try to upgrade my phone to WM6.5 and so far the roms I've tried won't even load onto my phone. The download status bar will come up but it goes nowhere then it says update error. The phone will turn back on and work with the stock WM6.1
I'm just looking for a very clean OEM style WM6.5 ROM. Any recommendations?

ryche316 said:
I have been trying different roms to try to upgrade my phone to WM6.5 and so far the roms I've tried won't even load onto my phone. The download status bar will come up but it goes nowhere then it says update error. The phone will turn back on and work with the stock WM6.1
I'm just looking for a very clean OEM style WM6.5 ROM. Any recommendations?
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Have you read the Dummies Guide? If not, you should do this. Just try some roms to see what fits better to your needs.

Assuming you hardspl or setup for USPL prior to flashing any ROM's. I have the 8285 and run the following ROM's: NRG LEO, PDAVIET LEO, and MIRI's LEO based ROM's. I personally keep going back to NRG as I have followed him from other devices and like his work. All the cooks are great. I also flash from SD card vs. using Activesync, find it faster and more reliable.

NRG is clean and mostly bug free ? yea from what you're saying maybe I did do something wrong. I'm not too advanced on this, I downloaded the energy rom and tried to update it. I've done nothing previous

ryche316 said:
NRG is clean and mostly bug free ? yea from what you're saying maybe I did do something wrong. I'm not too advanced on this, I downloaded the energy rom and tried to update it. I've done nothing previous
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well then that's why you're having problems for sure. as others have mentioned follow the Dummies Flashing Guide. if you're using HardSPL, make sure the top (RED) section of your bootloader looks like this Pic of Bootloader with HardSPL. when it looks like this, you're ready to flash a ROM!!

OK I found the 156OliNex.zip file. I put the phone into bootloader mode, when I tried to launch the file it would not execute. It flashes up on the screen for a second and that's it. I made sure that the windows firewall is turned off

Best, the least error, safest flashing tool USPL
i highly recommend you use USPL : I still yet have to see someone who had a problem after using USPL. This is even endorsed by Dutty Throy (you can see that he even states that this is the SAFEST METHOD) - Moderator ROM Cooker par excellence!
look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
and here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462347
format your sd card using fat32 (full format) (if you are a frequent flasher I suggest you get a small capacity sd card – 1Gb - and devote this only for flashing)
rename the RUU_signed.nbh to BLACIMG.nbh and pair this with ROMUpdateUtility -(application file). copy this two files in you formatted sd card.
then using Digital Outcast's USPL GUI: look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508361
if you're using Vista see this to update your sync driver
http://www.modaco.com/content/windo...u-on-vista-it-can-be-done-the-ultimate-guide/
flash the ROM.
please let me know once you've done this succesfully, i wish you the best of luck!
ryche316 said:
I have been trying different roms to try to upgrade my phone to WM6.5 and so far the roms I've tried won't even load onto my phone. The download status bar will come up but it goes nowhere then it says update error. The phone will turn back on and work with the stock WM6.1
I'm just looking for a very clean OEM style WM6.5 ROM. Any recommendations?
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You need to start posting in the Dummies Flashing Guide as posted above as this thread will be closed as soon as a mod comes across it. You'll find all your answers and help there

ryche316 said:
OK I found the 156OliNex.zip file. I put the phone into bootloader mode, when I tried to launch the file it would not execute. It flashes up on the screen for a second and that's it. I made sure that the windows firewall is turned off
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do you have .Net installed on your PC? if not, you need to install first. if you have .Net installed, retrace your steps to make sure you've got everything setup properly, e.g., installing the driver supplied in the thread. also, if you have problems please post your questions in the Dummies thread...the moderators will close threads like this one because "all" the info you need to flash can be accessed from the Dummies thread.

yes I have NET installed on my computer. I tried using the files in the dummies guide and had issues

OK. so I finally got the NRG energy rom installed and it shows up distorted on the screen.

ryche316 said:
OK. so I finally got the NRG energy rom installed and it shows up distorted on the screen.
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if you're using a WM 6.5 ROM then you do not have the right SPL installed.... look at Post #5 and make sure your bootloader looks like the one in my picture; if it doesn't then you haven't installed SPL 1.56 Olinex. again, please post your questions in the Dummies thread, you'll get appropriate help there... thanks!

I want to thank everyone for their input. I finally got a rom installed and working properly

I just wanted to thank everyone for their ideas and input. I finally got a rom installed and working on my phone

glad to know you were successful! we've all been there before and i know it can be frustrating. patience, diligence and patience (lol) will get you there!

Solution found, thread closed

flashing question!

hey,
i know this might sound like a stupid question but i am confused...
i tried flashing hardSPL but it wouldn't.
So it just keeps at 0% for more then half an hour. then i just disconnected it.
I have the RHOD300 version and used the GSM version.
What do i do wrong?
i do not need to SIM-unlock before right?
and the CID-unlock is the same as the hardSPL i thought? so why can't i flash?
thanks nick!

Correct, you don't need to SIM-unlock first. Check the troubleshooting section near the start of the sticky HardSPL thread, there are lots of suggestions of things to try there.

np progress
hey
firstly thanks for yozr fast response.
i read the troubleshooting section and everything but i could not find a solution to my problem
i am able to connect the phone and put it in bootloader and then flash it.
everything works as it did on my kaiser when i used to flash it...
so i get the grey screen with the progress bar on top but there is no progress! ive been waiting for half an hour but still no progress.
so i dont know how to go on now...cuz i need hardSPL for flashing all other roms
could someone help me here?
and is there a way to flash it via sd card?
couldnt find the nbh
thanks nick!

You can't flash HardSPL via your SD card, no, sorry. You really need to post up on this in the HardSPL thread though, rather than having a separate thread here.

[Q] HELP!!!!!

Alright ive seriously looked all over the threads and i cant find out how to properly install a rom Ive tried serverl times and nothing works i have a htc pure could some one please point me in the right direction!!!!

Come on dude, the 3rd thread in this forum has the unlocker http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=520312 once thats done then follow the guide at the top of this forum and then flash away any cooked ROMs

Yea.... Ive followed the steps and i keep getting error message about failing to comunicate how do i install the cab ?

Just take it slow and easy....
vtonyv said:
Yea.... Ive followed the steps and i keep getting error message about failing to comunicate how do i install the cab ?
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Hi vtonyv!
Carefully read through this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=520312
The first item on the check list is this file that you need to unlock your phone for flashing custom ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=232404&d=1254155235
The second item in the checklist states that the phone must be connected via active sync or Center for windows mobile in order to unlock you rphone.
You must do this otherwise you will get a error message like the one you described.
So, take your time and read the WHOLE first thread in the top of my post, and and after that go look around this forum for a nice ROM to try.
I recomend any of NRGZ28 ROMs. They show you what your phone should have been when you bought it.
The easiest way to flash your Topaz is to use the SD-card flashing method.
Please look in this excellent guide how to flash your phone!:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585201
Good luck and just take it slow!!
// ohamn