I have my X1 since over a year now, and i don't use the hardware keyboard a lot, but now after nearly a year and after trying many ROMS i choose TouchX 1.9.1.
the hardware keyboard is fine, except for the Space, M and N buttons, very often they skip and i have the press them really hard to get those letters, is it a defect or just dust somewhere? any method of cleaning it?
I had the same Problem on mine. And my Space key often produced three spaces at once.
Solution:
You have to clean the keyboard. Or better; undserneath the key-"foil" and the circuit board with the contacts. Although it seemed clean to me, this helped.
There is a very good video how to get there here:
youtube.com/watch?v=AWDurQrRt-Y
For cleaning I've used a desinfectant which is made mostly of alcohol.
If you use the search function - there is a thread on the keyboard cleaning topic with many photos.
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Hi,
I have a G1 Tim Italy debran T-Mobile (RC7).
After making the rom change , my keyboard does not work, the keys A, Q, write no sense words. For example if I press the A writes amncs, x , or if I press the shift rule the volume.
Could you help me to resolve the problem?
Besides I not have the root permission...for this problem I can't write on Telnet to obtain a root permission.
Thanks
Serena
Please help me
Have you tried just re-flashing the ROM and seeing if that resolves your problems?
Ok, but my pc dont'see the phone in fastmode..., and when I try to install by sd, give me an error message...signature etc...
Found it. Since I found this as the first result on Google for those same characters and know many others have problems without an answer in sight... I took my phone apart and started swapping out boards.
The keyboard actually spans across two separate boards, on the front button panel and the board where the SIM card slides into. The menu circuit board was the culprit. I guess if this board misfires, the front keyboard gets it too.
Interesting the keys worked perfect from a boot terminal. I guess the Linux kernel speeds up the keyscan routine and the higher scan rate picked up the short circuit. I spent earlier in the day doing factory restores, flashing new roms, etc...
I had slight corrosion on my circuit boards from sodium hydroxide vapors. Cleaning doesn't work well in my experience. The only thing that I know completely removes the conductive salts would be melting fresh solder flux on the connections. And they are pretty darn tiny!
Having a similar problem with my G1. del types JHGL and fiddles with ringer volume, enter types amncs,x, spacebar types / ~Z{ , p types pq8yt19d, back types U542i3. searching on google many people have encountered this problem with the same exact gibberish. How can so many people get the same exact gibberish from corrosion? seems unlikely..
I won't complain about the cracks, or the recessed screen, or even the slow speed (especially video playback, otherwise its good enough). I mean every device has it's own pros and cons. I like my X1, but what I am most dissapoinded in it, is the keyboard. I bought this device for his qwerty keyboard, and it is not very convenient. Ok than I can get used to it, but it started to have keys which need to be pressed really hard to get the letter from it. And that is really annoying and make my KB much slower for writing.
So how do you find your X1 KB? Do you have the already standard KB problem - some buttons needs to be pressed hard, other just get the double letter?
Do you find the TP1 and TP2 keyboards more convenient? Anyone testing omnia pro (the sliding version)?
In the end I'll either clean the KB by myself, or take it to SE for warrany (once the buttons stop working at all). But you know I had a custom SPL, so I need to revert this too. And I've spent more than $800 for this device.
No issue for me with my X1: no cracks: no double letters, no need to press hard on keyboard
The only issue: when I press on one key of the keyboard, it take a little time for the letter to appears on the screen... (sometime, the last letter of a word become the first letter of the next word...)
One of the things that steered me toward the X1 was the hardware keyboard, but I hardly ever use at all. It's like brand new.
I'm glad I don't rely on it judging by some of the posts on here with all the drama it can cause.
Installing the xt9 software and using sktool to make it the default after a reboot etc more or less made my hardware keyboard redundant. Occasionally I'll use it, but not often.
It is perfect for me. Works flawlessly, never had any issues with it, very convenient and comfortable.
I had the same problem.
some keys needed to be pressed real hard, while others place 2 letters.
So i went back to the store.
First time they cleaned the inside.
still...
Second they replaced the KB and the cabel that connects it to the processor.
still..
third time they send it to Sony ericsson, where multiple parts we're replaced.
still..
at that moment i got took a insurance at the store, this was possible because it was testes bij SE.
and with this insurance, i got a new one from the store^^
so my problem is solved.. for now..
Same here...no probs at all...very smooth.
gargoyle_g45 said:
I had the same problem.
some keys needed to be pressed real hard, while others place 2 letters.
So i went back to the store.
First time they cleaned the inside.
still...
Second they replaced the KB and the cabel that connects it to the processor.
still..
third time they send it to Sony ericsson, where multiple parts we're replaced.
still..
at that moment i got took a insurance at the store, this was possible because it was testes bij SE.
and with this insurance, i got a new one from the store^^
so my problem is solved.. for now..
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Man, I really hope my X1 won't be so tough to fix. It was working flawlessly for the first 6-7 months, but then I start having th KB issues.
no problem for me
but guess if one use it around dust and high humidity dust could
turn into dirt layers which could cause what you seem to exp
sometimes the fn button/the blue one doesnt work but the keyboard on the x2 actually looks proper but yea the keyboard isnt great is it
biggest dissapointment would be... the recessed screen.
besides that, it's a considerable phone for all day use.
i have had the keyboard problem on 2 of the 3 x1s i have had. hoping when mine comes back from repair it is sorted. although the keyboard is very annoying and slows writing down alot, its the cracks that really rune the x1 as a phone (in the sense that even if u get it fix its very likely to crack again. every times this happens u have to send the handset back to repair which take 2+ weeks).
odd I only had 1
Rudegar said:
odd I only had 1
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2 replacements from because of cracking
9+ months with the same device . No problemos (hardware lol).
I also had the kb problems... at first it is only the space bar... since the space bar is long.. i cannot trigger the space bar efficiently using my right hand.. sometimes it double taps and sometimes it doesn't tap... so i switch to pressing the spacebar with left hand...
then the "." key.. most often times it double presses... then i lost my phone...
(guess what) i still bought an x1... as of 1 week. the kb still doesn't show up..
My friend Ada got this phone and she told me that sometimes when she wanted to use KB, the screen just stopped and she had to wait for some time until the screen made the reaction...
when i first got my phone and started to use it, i was really dissappointed with just about everything... but in the end, it turned out to be a pretty good phone.
i was looking to get the tp2 for its bigger screen but i dont think i would like it without the scroll pad. plus i didnt want to buy another phone with just a bigger screen and same specs.
in the end... no need to upgrade when the x1a that i have is doing everything that i need it to do.
i have the exact same problem...
my only 3 keys that seem to get...stuck all the time are the I O P
sometimes even the backspace, it does get annoying, and plus if i get it to go at one hit..it would double the letters...
i guess its time to change to the x2
where do you get it repaired btw? its just that i bought my phone in indonesia unlocked, it has its warranty and everything, but i'm in canada now...do you think a carrier would want to take in that warranty?
I had the kb problems after 6 months of use as well, double/triple letters and keys were needed to be pressed harder to register. Had no warranty to get it fixed so I worked around it by installing the XT9 software.
Learned to type with the tips of my thumbs rather than at the base so the keys registered and the double keys issue was taken away because of the predictive txt. So I'm happy with my X1 despite it's kb problems hehe
From searching this forum, I can tell that others are having the same issue I am having. It started out with just a couple keys and now about 50% of my keys require me to push really hard for them to type. It is not a lag issue as covered by another thread. It just feels like the there may be dirt or something under the keys that makes it harder to type. This issue also is not ROM related as I have flashed my device with several ROMS with the same result.
Has anyone had any luck taking apart the keyboard and cleaning underneath the keys? If so -- maybe post some tips on what worked or not.
Thanks.
I'd vote for compressed air
I agree. You might be able to disassemble the phone and take the keyboard out and use compressed air. That would make certain that all the dirt is really out of the board...
A work mate of mine did this the other day. He took it fully apart and cleaned it out with contact cleaner. Ill ask him wether it worked or not but I think it did because I saw him using the phone today.
contact cleaner
I've never heard of contact cleaner. I'll have to try that. After looking at this video for disassembly, it doesn't look like you can get underneath the keys. How did your co-worker do it? Pop off the keys like a laptop keyboard?
I guess some older thread on how to replace Kaiser keyboard will be useful.
Found this
About screen, but went through keyboard also ..
anagarika said:
I guess some older thread on how to replace Kaiser keyboard will be useful.
Found this
About screen, but went through keyboard also ..
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Yes, I found that as well and it was not of much use. The problem is not removing the keyboard from the phone. The problem is getting underneath the keys. You can see the keyboard front/back removed from my attached image. According to this other thread #119, #126, #127 they say it is impossible to get at the keypad underneath.
I might just take a can of compressed air and spray on top of the keys as best I can to see if it helps.
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Yes, I found that as well and it was not of much use. The problem is not removing the keyboard from the phone. The problem is getting underneath the keys. You can see the keyboard front/back removed from my attached image. According to this other thread #119, #126, #127 they say it is impossible to get at the keypad underneath.
I might just take a can of compressed air and spray on top of the keys as best I can to see if it helps.
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Hmmm, seems that no other way but perhaps replace the keyboard ..
You cant get under the "actual" keyboard without breaking it off the housing. The keys can be pulled off from the top, but the actual buttons are sealed below.
For what little it cost, just replace the whole thing and problems are solved. Just did my son and daughters couple weeks ago.
Im foolish I forgot to ask him about it. Thinking back he may have damaged it lol. He does kind of charge into things and then realise he cant fix it.
Agree with carhigh, just replace the whole thing. Kaiser parts not that expensive nowadays. Just need time to open it up.
I have the same problem. Tried blowing compressed air from the top, but didn't have much success with the keys. I'll probably get a new keypad and replace it!
Sorry if this is a common question but where do people recommend getting kaiser parts? My N key and spacebar dont work without pressing it really hard and it's doing my head in!
Cheers.
Dommo said:
Sorry if this is a common question but where do people recommend getting kaiser parts? My N key and spacebar dont work without pressing it really hard and it's doing my head in!
Cheers.
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Your problem will slowly get worse. More and more keys will require extra pressure. Not sure where you could buy a replacement now (the phone is kind of old). After attempting to clean the keyboard, I gave up. I am just using onscreen keyboard program that is included in TPC's ROM. I think it is called finger keyboard. After a little practice, I am actually faster typing on that than I was with sliding the keyboard.
Try this guys - worked for me in fixing my S key:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431925
Ah. Did not realize the keyboard did not come out of the housing...
I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this problem (searches lead to fixes with keyboard lag, which help a lot, but my issue is different).
My keyboard is incredibly unresponsive; certain key (i.e. P and V) require incredibly hard repeated presses to register. My keyboard has been going down hill since I got it, but now its a downright pain to use (approaching 2 years of ownership). I'm wondering if this is simply a flaw with the device that most people deal with, or if I have a uniquely bad unit? It doesn't appear to be ROM dependent as this is a consistent problem with all.
Is there a buildup of dust/other stuff under the keys? Usually the most common cause of individual keys getting hard to press. Could also be the membrane inside is wearing. Either way, you'll need to pop her open to check.
I have the same problem with F and takes me to stomp on it before input, after time the Kaiser keyboard seems to become this way there are threads that say about opening up a text doc and circling around the key but never helped me, there must be a way to sort it via a new keyboard "or cleaning but pretty sure the keyboard is glued" but i just got used to it as the age of device.
Sorry i couldn't provide a fix but wanted to let you know your not alone
Thanks for your responses...I figured it was probably just dust or wear n tear, which makes sense as it gets worse as it gets older. I've already opened it up once to replace the screen and it was tricky putting it back together (the left hinge isn't perfect ) but maybe once I get another device I will give it a try.
I would like to know if there was a qwerty keyboard part replacement part for the Xperia X1. Because most of my buttons aren't even working anymore.. Help?
No need to replace the keyboard. Simply clean the contacts and your keyboard will work again. I did it too and it was a complete success.
Uhh... Lol, Im pretty sure its the keyboard part. because My I M and T will not work no matter how many times i press them.
It's very possible that it is dirt, there are quite a few threads here about keyboard "malfunction".
The cleaning is quite intricate, but it's probably the place to start.