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hi, that is the question.
Would you buy the DIAMOND again if you know you can't use the data transfer under the 3G technology??? is it worth the us$500 or eur450????
I dont really care about 3g when wifi is so readily available.
3g doesn't add any functionality to anything. its really nothing! ok, i waited 10 more seconds for some web page to load, but who cares! wifi is all over the place anyway. its way cooler stealing wifi then giving cell companys business! at the same time ill never buy a phone thats not 3g lol
for me 3G is essential as I use my Diamond extensively on Telstra's 850Mhz 3G network, and I can get far better coverage in regional parts of Australia. 3G is also essential for me as I use my Diamond as an external modem connected to my laptop. I could not imagine trying to use the internet at dialup speeds!! (or not at all due to lack of coverage)
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3g doesn't add any functionality to anything. its really nothing! ok, i waited 10 more seconds for some web page to load, but who cares! wifi is all over the place anyway. its way cooler stealing wifi then giving cell companys business! at the same time ill never buy a phone thats not 3g lol
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3G is a masssive bonus, especially when dealing with moving large files or for video calls. web pages are not so important.
As for stealing WIFI i think there is a strong moral question about doing that, especially as there are still people who are charge by the amount of data they use. Would you pick their pockets?
Thankfully most of the wifi spots i see people are wise enough to use WPA encryption. But still some people are relying on nothing or just WEP
in france we are massively under H (or a 3.5g or 3g+) so we don't care about 3g it's only when we goes to foreign country... but funny things there is a lack of wifi spot here
I'd buy it (again - my Touch Pro that is) in a second.
We do have quite spread UMTS and not bad HSPA and even some hot spots, but all these are just things "outside" the device; and the device rulez.
3g great...but
must turn off where overseas
don't want a big bill waiting for when i get home
I don't much care for the 3G, it's a nice bonus but it's not the reason I bought the Diamond.
The Diamond is the perfect phone for me (especially after I found this place and was able to upgrade the software tremendously) and I would certainly buy it again.
My biggest complaint in that the screen is so easily scratched. I hate using screen protectors and never really had a problem with scratches on my previous touch screen (Treo 700wx) like I do now. But minor issues as far as I'm concerned. I definitley don't have a problem with the battery as many others do, as I've become quite accustomed to carrying spare batteries since I use my devices quite a bit.
Good phone, even better tech support (here). How can you go wrong?
3G is a must!!! Still waiting over here in the U.S.
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3g isn't a a must, if you want to brows the internet get a computer, but for some people who work out in the field and needs Internet service then sure 3G is fun, but other wise than browsing the Internet you don't really need it, but for someone who is one of those emo Internet people myspace youtube what not, that its for u.
The answer depends on where you live as well as what you use your phone for.
In UK (and most of Western Europe) we have very good 3G and even 3.5G networks that can give us mobile broadband at very good speeds - not up to best wired speeds but getting close. You can really notice the difference between that and slow old GPRS when downloading emails or surfing the real web (rather than just WAP).
On the other hand in the UK free wifi spots are few and far between - most require some sort of payment or subscription - Holiday Inn hotels for example want £15 per day, and Hilton are £10! And most private companies (and households like mine) that use wifi lock their access so you can't park outside and piggy back.
Because there has been so much investment in these new technologies they are being pushed hard by the phone companies and many contracts for phones now come with "free" bundled data access. My HTC comes with "unlimited" downloads (sunbject as always to a fair use policy that I have never got near).
I understand that in other parts of the world including the US the roll out of this sort of technology is less advanced, and so the arguments for having 3G are less convincing at the moment.
I would not have bought the Diamond without 3G. 3G(Hdspa) is an absolutley must!
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3g is the s**t lol
i gotta say once you use 3G (HSDPA) you will never go back, most if the time i don't even bother connecting to WIFI coz there is honestly hardly any speed difference if you have good reception (and i have unlimited data plan).
Luckily i live the the UK and with orange we have decent coverage and the speed is increasing over the next year of so
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HI, i live in BOGOTA/COLOMBIA/SOUTH AMERICA
and here the mobile carrier use 850 band (3g) so that is why i am wondering if the diamond's worth the money if I can't use all the stuff on it, like the 3G speed...
Well I bought my Diamond (european version) not knowing that 3G wouldn't work in the US. Despite that, It was going in for some repairs at HTC America with Canada post and somehow, the phone got "lost" (yeah right).
So now, I'm getting back my insurance money and I will most probably buy another Diamond not taking into consideration weather 3G works or not.
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HI, i live in BOGOTA/COLOMBIA/SOUTH AMERICA
and here the mobile carrier use 850 band (3g) so that is why i am wondering if the diamond's worth the money if I can't use all the stuff on it, like the 3G speed...
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purchase a Telstra DIAM130 one from Australia and it will have 850Mhz 3G
3g or 2g
I'm in the camp of MUST have 3g, in AU with telstra and all prior htc phones have had 3g BUT I went and grabbed a Diamond 100 a while back BEFORE we all really knew about the different models being hardware (bands) different so long story short I've got 2g only and it sucks big time.
Reception outside of metro very average, data s l o w ..no video callls and
I live in the country area, even chucked my sim card into my wifes old motorola v3xx., Yea pink as well........
I am using the Diamond as I like the phone/features
I'm looking to buy a 3g Diamond or renew/upgrade my plan due next month.
Then the hardly used Diamond100 will hit ebay and thats it.
(Unless someone in AU is looking to swap as Diam100 works on Optus/Voda etc, but not telstra)
So if your provider is going to get compatible phones then wait, otherwise like driving a v8 in first gear.
hi all, I bought a TOB locked device which worked finme on TMOB, getting 3g and H all the time. i had to move to AT&T so I unlocked the device (thru TMOB) and got the appropriate service at AT&T. But my device only shows EDGE. Card shows 3g in an iphone so it isnt that. Anyone know why im only getting EDGE???
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hi all, I bought a TOB locked device which worked finme on TMOB, getting 3g and H all the time. i had to move to AT&T so I unlocked the device (thru TMOB) and got the appropriate service at AT&T. But my device only shows EDGE. Card shows 3g in an iphone so it isnt that. Anyone know why im only getting EDGE???
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ATT and TMobile use different 3g bands so EDGE is all you will ever get. Same thing happens in reverse until there are phones that support both sets of bands (not likely).
well thats just GREAT!!
thanks. have to port to t-mob again!
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ATT and TMobile use different 3g bands so EDGE is all you will ever get. Same thing happens in reverse until there are phones that support both sets of bands (not likely).
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To expand on what you said, they use different 3G bands AND the hardware that is able to talk to said bands is exclusive to both AT&T and T-Mobile TP2 phones. There is a physical hardware difference between the two, so upgrading to a different radio will not allow you use your T-Mobile TP2 on AT&T's 3G network, either.
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To expand on what you said, they use different 3G bands AND the hardware that is able to talk to said bands is exclusive to both AT&T and T-Mobile TP2 phones. There is a physical hardware difference between the two, so upgrading to a different radio will not allow you use your T-Mobile TP2 on AT&T's 3G network, either.
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In other words, do a bit more research on these phones before you jump ship on carriers!
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In other words, do a bit more research on these phones before you jump ship on carriers!
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Aye. It's like with my wife. She has a G1 right now with T-Mobile. However, her friend has a MeToo (iPhone) with AT&T. Of course, she wants the iPhone now and told me that other day that she can get one that is already unlocked for use with other carriers. I had to explain to her that I would get her the iPhone if she wanted, but that she would NOT get 3G while on T-Mobile's network given the hardware constraints. She didn't say much after that.
Research is key. I see it every day in the NRG ROM thread. People see "Manila 2.5" and immediately grab that version. However, they fail to research and don't realize that Manila 2.5 is still in its beta form from HTC. They ask why certain functions don't work...they even seem surprised when they don't work. When explained to them that it is still in beta form, they quickly go back to lurking.
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Aye. It's like with my wife. She has a G1 right now with T-Mobile. However, her friend has a MeToo (iPhone) with AT&T. Of course, she wants the iPhone now and told me that other day that she can get one that is already unlocked for use with other carriers. I had to explain to her that I would get her the iPhone if she wanted, but that she would NOT get 3G while on T-Mobile's network given the hardware constraints. She didn't say much after that.
Research is key. I see it every day in the NRG ROM thread. People see "Manila 2.5" and immediately grab that version. However, they fail to research and don't realize that Manila 2.5 is still in its beta form from HTC. They ask why certain functions don't work...they even seem surprised when they don't work. When explained to them that it is still in beta form, they quickly go back to lurking.
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Yup I do agree some research is always good! But TP2 is worth it without 3G... I dont loose much by loosing 3G compatibility.
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Yup I do agree some research is always good! But TP2 is worth it without 3G... I dont loose much by loosing 3G compatibility.
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ditto on that, where I live we don't get stable 3g and when we do I don't notice any speed advantages. When I drive to atlanta where they have a stable 3G I only noticed that google maps DIDN"T like to even connect at 3G. And I wasn't really using anything else while there, I actually disabled the stupid 3G radio on my pantech just so I could use google maps. Sooo... never really had it anyway and got tired of waiting for ATT to drop their TP2 or even the TD2. bought a TM TP2 and I've been in heaven ever since. Phooey 3G... who needs ya? I got WiFi and edge is fine for whatever else I need on the road.
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Yup I do agree some research is always good! But TP2 is worth it without 3G... I dont loose much by loosing 3G compatibility.
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I agree! I followed you here from kaiser! I love my tmobile tp2 on ATT... no need for 3g Shall u be cooking an amazing rhodium rom anytime soon????
conceptcar3 said:
I agree! I followed you here from kaiser! I love my tmobile tp2 on ATT... no need for 3g Shall u be cooking an amazing rhodium rom anytime soon????
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Hey guy! Good to see you here....I just started cooking my own ROM's, not sure if I will release them though!
Yea 3G will be nice, but not a necessity! LOL
thanks to all of you for making me feel so good. its no issue to return to tmob just time!!
i've been with tmobile forever and this is my first taste of 3g, and i gotta say, i was much more excited about it than actually having it. i get 3g in my area and it makes nearly no difference in what i do with opera mini.
espn will load a hair faster and i finally get a good slingbox stream, but other than that, i wouldn't die if i had to go back to edge
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i've been with tmobile forever and this is my first taste of 3g, and i gotta say, i was much more excited about it than actually having it. i get 3g in my area and it makes nearly no difference in what i do with opera mini.
espn will load a hair faster and i finally get a good slingbox stream, but other than that, i wouldn't die if i had to go back to edge
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You will see a MUCH bigger difference when you aren't using a browser that compresses the data before it gets to your phone.
Opera mini does just that. Thus, you won't see much of a difference between Edge and 3G. Skyfire also does it as well, I believe.
When you start downloading "raw" data, though, you will really see the difference in speed.
Anyone else having trouble with their LTE reception? I just came from an iPhone 5 and fortunately around me the area is kind of blanketed in LTE but I have yet to get any solid connection on the One where as with my iPhone 5 it would lock on and get great speeds. I saw the LTE on the one pop in a couple times but just for a couple secs and even once long enough to start a Speed Test but then it "lost connection" in the middle of the test. I assume a PRL update is needed or at least I'm hoping its just a PRL update.
You practically have to be making love to the tower to get 4G to connect. And yes you are not alone.
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You practically have to be making love to the tower to get 4G to connect. And yes you are not alone.
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Hmm wonder if this is something that can be fixed via software, this is kind of bumming me out - this will be the one and only gripe I'll have.
D3luSi0n4L said:
Hmm wonder if this is something that can be fixed via software, this is kind of bumming me out - this will be the one and only gripe I'll have.
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I was a bit harsh...The phone is quite capable of grabbing an LTE signal..But in fringe areas is will not hold it.It will switch back to 3G..On the sensorly App it seems anything that is 0-2 bars will grab a signal but will drop it eventually..
But man when you are in 3-4 bars in dark purple this phone flys on LTE.
I'm pulling crazy far lte speeds
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Yeah I was too on my iPhone 5 - like 30mbps download and 10 upload. I'll update this post when I get another chance to test it again I went ahead and did a profile and prl update.
Sounds like location. I am in Houston and 80% of the time its on 4G, I usually get around 15 to 25 down on 4G. Indoors It stays on 4G but speed drops to around 2
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I was a bit harsh...The phone is quite capable of grabbing an LTE signal..But in fringe areas is will not hold it.It will switch back to 3G..On the sensorly App it seems anything that is 0-2 bars will grab a signal but will drop it eventually..
But man when you are in 3-4 bars in dark purple this phone flys on LTE.
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This is a software decision.
For most networks, the decision to switch back to 3g would be wise. For most, LTE is blazing fast and 3g is usable. Switching back to 3g on the fringe of an LTE tower is a fine decision on say, Verizon. It also makes sense from a battery standpoint. There is no sense making the higher power LTE radio strain for a signal when there is a perfectly usable 3g one available to a lower power radio.
The problem is with Sprint, with Sprint, you want to hold onto every last drop of LTE because even the faintest, messiest, LTE signal is going to be faster than the 3g.
There will be a software update, I am fairly confident, that will change the values where the the phone gives up on LTE.
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This is a software decision.
For most networks, the decision to switch back to 3g would be wise. For most, LTE is blazing fast and 3g is usable. Switching back to 3g on the fringe of an LTE tower is a fine decision on say, Verizon. It also makes sense from a battery standpoint. There is no sense making the higher power LTE radio strain for a signal when there is a perfectly usable 3g one available to a lower power radio.
The problem is with Sprint, with Sprint, you want to hold onto every last drop of LTE because even the faintest, messiest, LTE signal is going to be faster than the 3g.
There will be a software update, I am fairly confident, that will change the values where the the phone gives up on LTE.
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I was going to return the phone today but I'll roll the dice in hopes there is an update for this because in those "fringe" areas my Note II holds 4G and its only 2Mbps down and 1Mbps up but it's better than the 3G 28.8k it switches to..
I just hope when the area is covered by more LTE it'll even out..Happy to hear that about Houston which has more coverage that the One holds it's 4G better..This is what im banking on.
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I was going to return the phone today but I'll roll the dice in hopes there is an update for this because in those "fringe" areas my Note II holds 4G and its only 2Mbps down and 1Mbps up but it's better than the 3G 28.8k it switches to..
I just hope when the area is covered by more LTE it'll even out..Happy to hear that about Houston which has more coverage that the One holds it's 4G better..This is what im banking on.
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I'm smack in the middle of what is supposed to be a fairly saturated LTE area for Sprint (North Dallas, TX) and mine keeps switching between 3G and 4G with total data drops seemingly random and many times throughout the day. What's weird is often times, I'll go to use the phone and the 4G is there and 3 or more bars, and then as soon as I open an app that uses data the connection will drop. It doesn't happen every time, but way more than I can live with. I'm thinking about returning it to Sprint and going with AT&T instead. I just hate to have to hassle with it and pay more for less.
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I'm smack in the middle of what is supposed to be a fairly saturated LTE area for Sprint (North Dallas, TX) and mine keeps switching between 3G and 4G with total data drops seemingly random and many times throughout the day. What's weird is often times, I'll go to use the phone and the 4G is there and 3 or more bars, and then as soon as I open an app that uses data the connection will drop. It doesn't happen every time, but way more than I can live with. I'm thinking about returning it to Sprint and going with AT&T instead. I just hate to have to hassle with it and pay more for less.
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well,then i guess all I can hope for is some sort of update that helps keep 4G connected
Probably has to do with a minimum signal strength value to keep it connected to LTE and not search for a stronger signal. Hopefully there will be an update or a patch to fix this.
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Probably has to do with a minimum signal strength value to keep it connected to LTE and not search for a stronger signal. Hopefully there will be an update or a patch to fix this.
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I just feel like not enough people are complaining about this issue and it'll just keep working the way it is now. Which would suck.
Through out my searched for the night I ended up at a tmobile website where they too were having the same 4G issues.. Maybe it is a design problem and not just software.
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"Bars" mean nothing, usually they only show strength of the cdma 1x (voice), not lte strength..
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/2...to-determine-your-actual-lte-signal-strength/
Happening frequently
I have the same problem keeps switching from LTE to 3g constantly I think it is happening to multiple on sprint network idk about others http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/04/26/sprint-htc-one-lte-connectivity-issue-in-select-markets/
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well,then i guess all I can hope for is some sort of update that helps keep 4G connected
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no problems here in fort myers. When i'm home it locks on 4g and screams at 25 down and 10 up
wranglerray said:
no problems here in fort myers. When i'm home it locks on 4g and screams at 25 down and 10 up
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That's helpful...with issues like this, especially at or near launch of a new device, it's always a question of device vs. network vs. software issues. I'm always skeptical that the device is the issue, especially on flagship models. I posted on a Sprint forum and one user said he took his phone back and Sprint swapped it for another HTC One and he's had no issues. Says he thinks it's some type of provisioning issue, which I am not too sure of. But he said he a similar issue with the Evo LTD (I think) and swapped and no more issues. There also was a Sprint rep that chimed in on the thread and advised me that an Vision upgrade had been made in my area yesterday and to update profile and prl and then power down for 3-5 minutes. I followed that advice but I'm still having issues. For reference, I'm in 75240 zip code.
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"Bars" mean nothing, usually they only show strength of the cdma 1x (voice), not lte strength..
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/2...to-determine-your-actual-lte-signal-strength/
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Yeah, I think most of us that have been around a while realize that. I could care less about the bars. Hell, I hardly even talk on the phone. What I need is Data to work, consistently. I don't even care if it's 4G if a decent 3G is available and would provide a consistent connection. Well, yeah, I would prefer it be 4G. The selling point for Sprint right now is their prices and unlimited Data. When you factor in that they are really trying to upgrade their network to compete with the other big 2, and are oriented towards customer concerns at the moment, it makes them appealing. But they got to get the data consistent, especially in large markets like Dallas, TX, or they are just going to keep on churning customers. I just switched to them from Verizon as I was at the end of my contract and was a bit tired of Big Red's bullying, but I have to hand it to them, their network is fantastic. I might be going right back to them, or take a chance on AT&T, which I switched from to Verizon a couple years ago.
But my HTC ONE has no 4G at all, and I checked the whole area, not just one spot. I tried update my profile(No idea what's that for) and PRL, and nothing helps at all. Also, after update profile, I actually got stuck, lost cell connection for all. But that's a separated issue I'll say. I guess it should be that Sprint faked their coverage( I turned on my ATT phone with Tmobile sim, solid 4G LTE) just to get subscribers, and I'm pretty upset that with all the seemingly good news about Sprint, the real steps are so small, compare to other 4 carriers.
Do you think the phone itself is on the fault? I'm in the Irvine CA area, might be part of the Santa Ana market they are talking about just went online with 4G, which is just not true.
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But my HTC ONE has no 4G at all, and I checked the whole area, not just one spot. I tried update my profile(No idea what's that for) and PRL, and nothing helps at all. Also, after update profile, I actually got stuck, lost cell connection for all. But that's a separated issue I'll say. I guess it should be that Sprint faked their coverage( I turned on my ATT phone with Tmobile sim, solid 4G LTE) just to get subscribers, and I'm pretty upset that with all the seemingly good news about Sprint, the real steps are so small, compare to other 4 carriers.
Do you think the phone itself is on the fault? I'm in the Irvine CA area, might be part of the Santa Ana market they are talking about just went online with 4G, which is just not true.
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Call Sprint support...
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But my HTC ONE has no 4G at all, and I checked the whole area, not just one spot. I tried update my profile(No idea what's that for) and PRL, and nothing helps at all. Also, after update profile, I actually got stuck, lost cell connection for all. But that's a separated issue I'll say. I guess it should be that Sprint faked their coverage( I turned on my ATT phone with Tmobile sim, solid 4G LTE) just to get subscribers, and I'm pretty upset that with all the seemingly good news about Sprint, the real steps are so small, compare to other 4 carriers.
Do you think the phone itself is on the fault? I'm in the Irvine CA area, might be part of the Santa Ana market they are talking about just went online with 4G, which is just not true.
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OC in general is pretty spotty whenever I go there, but that could be the One's weak radio. Either way check out this map.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/4145-sprint-lte-coverage-maps-via-sensorly/
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But my HTC ONE has no 4G at all, and I checked the whole area, not just one spot. I tried update my profile(No idea what's that for) and PRL, and nothing helps at all. Also, after update profile, I actually got stuck, lost cell connection for all. But that's a separated issue I'll say. I guess it should be that Sprint faked their coverage( I turned on my ATT phone with Tmobile sim, solid 4G LTE) just to get subscribers, and I'm pretty upset that with all the seemingly good news about Sprint, the real steps are so small, compare to other 4 carriers.
Do you think the phone itself is on the fault? I'm in the Irvine CA area, might be part of the Santa Ana market they are talking about just went online with 4G, which is just not true.
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Get close to a known 4g tower (within a few blocks,) check s4gru.com if you don't know where any are. If you still don't get any, there is something wrong with your phone. Sprint 4G on 1900Mhz is pretty fragile and the One drops it pretty easily, unfortunately the S4 actually is better in this regard.
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Get close to a known 4g tower (within a few blocks,) check s4gru.com if you don't know where any are. If you still don't get any, there is something wrong with your phone. Sprint 4G on 1900Mhz is pretty fragile and the One drops it pretty easily, unfortunately the S4 actually is better in this regard.
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Is it the metal casing that makes the htc one signal not as good as say the s4's? And if so, can a mod be done to help the antenna get better reception?
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Is it the metal casing that makes the htc one signal not as good as say the s4's? And if so, can a mod be done to help the antenna get better reception?
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No idea really, my buddy at work picks up 4g on his S4 several blocks away from where I can in several locations. I'm actually going to flash another radio to see if it helps. May be worth a shot for you too.
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The Sprint Coverage Map is an approximation. However, I will agree that a lot of the information is not specifically accurate. For example, the map has shown 4G LTE for my town for over 3 months now. Realistically, I've only been picking up LTE for less then a month now. I don't know what criteria they base the coverage map on (or their underlying intentions) but I have always considered it "somewhat accurate."
The HTC One doesn't help itself either. My wife's Note2 picks up solid LTE in our house; whereas my One can barely hold a 3G reception sitting next to her.
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OC in general is pretty spotty whenever I go there, but that could be the One's weak radio. Either way check out this map.
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Get close to a known 4g tower (within a few blocks,) check s4gru.com if you don't know where any are. If you still don't get any, there is something wrong with your phone. Sprint 4G on 1900Mhz is pretty fragile and the One drops it pretty easily, unfortunately the S4 actually is better in this regard.
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followed the link, interestingly, saw the coverage all along the road, I think it should be one or two person with the app driving through and sent back the signal strength. The real coverage should be wider, cause I don't know any antenna will transmit such a pattern
They have technician that have receivers in their vehicles and as they drive around doing work they collect the signal data.
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But my HTC ONE has no 4G at all, and I checked the whole area, not just one spot. I tried update my profile(No idea what's that for) and PRL, and nothing helps at all. Also, after update profile, I actually got stuck, lost cell connection for all. But that's a separated issue I'll say. I guess it should be that Sprint faked their coverage( I turned on my ATT phone with Tmobile sim, solid 4G LTE) just to get subscribers, and I'm pretty upset that with all the seemingly good news about Sprint, the real steps are so small, compare to other 4 carriers.
Do you think the phone itself is on the fault? I'm in the Irvine CA area, might be part of the Santa Ana market they are talking about just went online with 4G, which is just not true.
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Sprint really just needs to work on their coverage, they told my mates and I that they would have lte over here by the end of LAST April... nothing. We have 4g signal here, I know this because my old htc evo picked up 4g signals at home, but now that i'm using the one, it has no backwards compatibility with 4g and can only use 4glte, so the unlimited data im paying for is pointless because when i'm home I use wifi since its faster than the 3g i'm picking up (obviously). Really considering the switch to T-mobile when my contract is up.
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But my HTC ONE has no 4G at all, and I checked the whole area, not just one spot. I tried update my profile(No idea what's that for) and PRL, and nothing helps at all. Also, after update profile, I actually got stuck, lost cell connection for all. But that's a separated issue I'll say. I guess it should be that Sprint faked their coverage( I turned on my ATT phone with Tmobile sim, solid 4G LTE) just to get subscribers, and I'm pretty upset that with all the seemingly good news about Sprint, the real steps are so small, compare to other 4 carriers.
Do you think the phone itself is on the fault? I'm in the Irvine CA area, might be part of the Santa Ana market they are talking about just went online with 4G, which is just not true.
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The phone isn't at fault. I had the same problem, sprint still shows i'm in a good LTE area and there's nothing here lol. Tested on 4 different devices.
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Sprint really just needs to work on their coverage, they told my mates and I that they would have lte over here by the end of LAST April... nothing. We have 4g signal here, I know this because my old htc evo picked up 4g signals at home, but now that i'm using the one, it has no backwards compatibility with 4g and can only use 4glte, so the unlimited data im paying for is pointless because when i'm home I use wifi since its faster than the 3g i'm picking up (obviously). Really considering the switch to T-mobile when my contract is up.
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Man, 4G wimax is not 4G LTE, and Sprint will not do anything with the wimax anymore. But I agree with you on Sprint needs to work on their coverage quick.
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The phone isn't at fault. I had the same problem, sprint still shows i'm in a good LTE area and there's nothing here lol. Tested on 4 different devices.
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Well, as demo27vol1 posted the s4gru link, there should be 4G coverage on many parts of the place I am at, that site should be from crowd source, not Sprint. What I found is, if I look at the s4gru's coverage very carefully, I can find one place with much stronger signal, where my phone can get 4G, (I'm not driving around with that map and my phone to try to map the coverage myself, I just went to that place and saw 4G and come back to verify with others' report and found it's relevant.) So I do think the phone is at fault now, means it has some problem with the 4G that it can't get the signal if it's weaker. I guess we should discuss this a lot because I would like everyone having similar experience to be aware of the problem.
It's generally understood at this point that metal phones get worse reception. HTC devices do not have a good track record of having good reception on Sprint as it is (Evo 4G LTE for example).
Most people who have compared the HTC One to an S3/S4 have found that the HTC One gets similar or slightly worse coverage (especially regarding 4G LTE). There are a few who say it's better on the One, but they are in the minority. The largest issue I have noticed on the One is that once it drops the 4G down to 3G, it requires an act of God to make it want to go back to 4G if your 4G signal is only marginal.
This is only a real problem because Sprint's 3G is so bad that a terrible 4G signal is actually faster and more reliable than full bars of 3G in many areas.
I agree, my GF has the GS4 and it holds on to the weak LTE signal for dear life while my One prefers not even to try to get it lol
sometimes i'll 4636 and force it out of spite
Hi everyone, waiting for my Nexus to get shipped from the GPS but I've seen some anecdotal reports on here and the Android Central forums about the signal strength not being so great on this phone. Specifically, some people report that their LG Nexus 5 shows a better signal in dB (not just bars) than their Nexus 6.
I'm a little concerned about this. I relocated just over a year ago to an area where I don't have the best coverage with Verizon at my work. At that time, I had a Galaxy S3 which had terrible radios where I literally had no coverage in many places. I upgraded to an S4 and had no issues since then although my wife's Note 3 seems to do slightly better getting LTE when I drop to 3G. Was looking forward to getting this phone as it will be my first Motorola and I've always read that Moto has some of the best radios (also read LG and Apple do too). Not gonna turn this into a Note 4 vs Nexus 6 thread because that one already exists and is a hot mess but I've been reading that the signal strength on the Note 4 is really good.
I have a ship date of 11/26 so I guess I'll find out soon enough but just wondering what people's experience has been with the Nexus 6.
Thanks!
I'm curious about this as well, I have a Nexus 4 and find its radios to be more powerful than my siblings and gfs Nexus 5s.
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Mine has about the same reception if not a little better than my G3. Att is really bad where I live but I usually have LTE except for a few places but its much better than my wife's S5
i think people just get too caught up in graphical representations of signal (i.e. signal bars). Different phones and carriers show different things for the same level of actual signal. In my experience on T-Mobile on Long Island/ NYC - i get as good if not better signal than i did with my nexus 5. There are a few spots where i had no signal with my nexus 5 that i now get a stable weak signal with the nexus 6. To me, it really has been as good or better, but certainly not worse. With that said, graphically spots where the nexus 5 said i had full bars of service (5/5), the N6 reports as having (4/5), but the service is the same. Speed tests and dbm all match up, so i can just assume it's the way it's being displayed.
The sony Z3 I had had the same dbm that the Nexus 6 is showing in my office, but the visual bars on the Nexus 6 show as being lower. I haven't had any slower speeds anywhere with the Nexus 6 so far. One thing I have noticed is that I'm not getting 4G while on the phone the majority of the time. I haven't had that be an issue in the past. I'm on T-Mobile.
Now THIS is something that I have really been wanting to know. The fact that I too have heard about how good Moto's radios have been in the past really got my hopes up for this phone. I currently rock an AT&T Note 3. And IDK if I just got a lemon, or if Samsung really did throw the cheapest POS radio in their last year flagship phone. But of all the android phones I have owned (Sony, HTC, Moto, samsung) this one gets hands down the worst signal strength I have ever had. Further more, I make it a habbit to compare this thing to every other AT&T phone I can, from friends and family. And not one of them has ever had worse signal strength than I. The closest one had about -3dB less than mine. Most had -5 or even -10dB better. Even after flashing every single AT&T radio firmware, different cases, it still is just terrible. Right now sitting in my house it is at -100 and showing 3 bars. I work as a drive tester for cell towers, and my test phone is a sprint Nexus 5. So I cant compare it to my note, being on a different network.
But on to the topic of the N6, since it has radios for pretty much every network, would that mean that said radios are of a lesser quality? I had really hoped that this phone would blow my Note 3 out of the water on AT&T. Honestly, even if it isn't as good as other Moto phones, it still has to be better than my Note 3. Even dads S5 active and moms S4 get much better signal strength numbers than mine. Forgive me for asking this, but is this something that can be improved within the dev community with some flashing, or is it just a hardware limitation?
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Now THIS is something that I have really been wanting to know. The fact that I too have heard about how good Moto's radios have been in the past really got my hopes up for this phone. I currently rock an AT&T Note 3. And IDK if I just got a lemon, or if Samsung really did throw the cheapest POS radio in their last year flagship phone. But of all the android phones I have owned (Sony, HTC, Moto, samsung) this one gets hands down the worst signal strength I have ever had. Further more, I make it a habbit to compare this thing to every other AT&T phone I can, from friends and family. And not one of them has ever had worse signal strength than I. The closest one had about -3dB less than mine. Most had -5 or even -10dB better. Even after flashing every single AT&T radio firmware, different cases, it still is just terrible. Right now sitting in my house it is at -100 and showing 3 bars. I work as a drive tester for cell towers, and my test phone is a sprint Nexus 5. So I cant compare it to my note, being on a different network.
But on to the topic of the N6, since it has radios for pretty much every network, would that mean that said radios are of a lesser quality? I had really hoped that this phone would blow my Note 3 out of the water on AT&T. Honestly, even if it isn't as good as other Moto phones, it still has to be better than my Note 3. Even dads S5 active and moms S4 get much better signal strength numbers than mine. Forgive me for asking this, but is this something that can be improved within the dev community with some flashing, or is it just a hardware limitation?
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Some radios worked a little better on my note 3 but some were worse ...it was a crap shoot. ....but none were far and away better ....like you my note 3 got horrible signal on sprint ....g3 was worse for me so this has to be better lol
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Some radios worked a little better on my note 3 but some were worse ...it was a crap shoot. ....but none were far and away better ....like you my note 3 got horrible signal on sprint ....g3 was worse for me so this has to be better lol
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Haha I am not alone! Well, here's to better signal in the N6!!!
Seems to me that the nexus 6 reports low signal as time without signal. Hasn't been an issue here as I'm always connected to lte even in places I'd drop to 3g
So anything new on Signal? I'm trying to buy a Nexus6 but haven't been able to on Verizon. Hope there is some good news there has been a lot of bad.
wooddale said:
So anything new on Signal? I'm trying to buy a Nexus6 but haven't been able to on Verizon. Hope there is some good news there has been a lot of bad.
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Best and most consistent connection/speeds of any device I've owned on Verizon.
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Make sure when u unlock your device that you change your cellular networks to LTE. When I unlock my device I wasn't getting no cell signal or phone call and I noticed my networks were set at ( Global ) so I switched it back to LTE.
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Make sure when u unlock your device that you change your cellular networks to LTE. When I unlock my device I wasn't getting no cell signal or phone call and I noticed my networks were set at ( Global ) so I switched it back to LTE.
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What Carrier are you on?
wooddale said:
What Carrier are you on?
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Tmobile
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Tmobile
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I'm on Verizon and really doesn't make much difference on my Droid Maxx. Maybe its something in 5.0. I gotta give it a shot can always send it back if I can ever get one. Pisses me off I got the money for the phone and I can't buy it. Maybe that's some kind of sign. lol
I get a little better signal than my wife's Note 4 in the same locations. She has an otterbox commuter case on though and I'm still running around naked.
I have similar experiences with my N6, or had. I've only had it for 2 days though, but I was having signal drop out and 3g/LTE switching a lot yesterday. I changed my APN protocol to IPV4/IPV6 instead of IPV6 and today its been fine. I don't know if that actually had anything to do with it or not, but thought I'd share. I think its just a coincidence and for some reason my signal just decided to work better. Worth a shot.
So I changed to LTE and now I don't have a global option.... I travel internationally for work very expensively (T-Mobile free worldwide data ftw) and had found previously on my Nexus 5 that I needed to be on global for it to work anywhere else...
Any ideas here?
When there's a CDMA SIM in the phone (Verizon/Sprint), it shows the global option where it can use both CDMA and GSM networks. When there's a GSM SIM in the phone (Tmo, AT&T, etc.), it seems to go into GSM-only mode (no need to display global, which seems to mean GSM+CDMA in the Nexus 6's case).
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So I changed to LTE and now I don't have a global option.... I travel internationally for work very expensively (T-Mobile free worldwide data ftw) and had found previously on my Nexus 5 that I needed to be on global for it to work anywhere else...
Any ideas here?
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When there's a CDMA SIM in the phone (Verizon/Sprint), it shows the global option where it can use both CDMA and GSM networks. When there's a GSM SIM in the phone (Tmo, AT&T, etc.), it seems to go into GSM-only mode (no need to display global, which seems to mean GSM+CDMA in the Nexus 6's case).
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Interesting change from the Nexus 5. Previously, I had to be sure global was selected overseas as opposed to just LTE, so you can see why I was originally concerned. Good to know. Thanks for the info man!