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Killing my XDA using the wrong car power cable

My GPS HW Company has sent me a wrong car cables powering a GPS and my XDA. I plugged it in and burned the power fuse of my PDA. But the microphone of my phone is not working either as people cannot hear me when I talk! :x
Before I can try to do anything for the speaker part, I need to know what cables they have shipped me (as the company refuse to accept they have shipped this cable to me :evil: )
The car power cable is powering a Haicom GPS on the one side and a PDA named “IC-MOI-HT for MOI 528/338” on the other side.
Does anyone know this type of PDA :?:
Would the connector also physically fit in an XDA :?:

If the connector fit, it was for an iPAQ. They use the same connector, but it is wired differently. If I recall correctly, the power pins on the iPAQ cable would go to audio pins on the XDA...very bad.

You can take a look here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors
If ti really was an Ipaq cable, maybe it helps you....
Stefan

I think you have been supplied with cable for the Mitac Mio series pda.

cruisin-thru said:
I think you have been supplied with cable for the Mitac Mio series pda.
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Thanks Cruisin
Do you think the connector would fit in an XDA ?
Or same question put differently
Does the cable arrangement for the Ipaq also applyes to this type of PDA ?

Well Well!
Impossible to know what exact cable they have sent met.
What is sure is that wallaby connector 1 2 3 & 4 were connected to power in from the car battery through that cable
I had a techni guy repairing the power fuse which burned. I'm half way now as I can power in my XAD and use the PDA part. :?
What seems to be the last problem is that my PDA turns systematically into car hand free mode when I place a call.
The screen display something like "microphone activated" (can't recall exactly). Something muse have mess with pin N° 19 I guess
CAR_ON# is connected to +6V on the car charger, it's not connected in the cradle. +6V makes the phone go to speaker mode immediately when picked up or dialling. When this pin is connected to ground, the internal mike and speaker are turned off, and audio input is taken from the audio input pin on the connector, for use in real car kits.
How to solve this case ?
Is there a component/chip that needs to be replaced on the mother board?

hi Tanguy,
I think the better way for you is to change to mainboard. That is the best solution.

hoanghon said:
hi Tanguy,
I think the better way for you is to change to mainboard. That is the best solution.
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Thanks.
What budget ?
Where to buy ?

I have an xda 2 mainboard that will work anywhere except uk as it is blocked owing to insurance claim, will sell for £50 plus post.

cruisin-thru said:
I have an xda 2 mainboard that will work anywhere except uk as it is blocked owing to insurance claim, will sell for £50 plus post.
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Looks good,
But I need an XDA main board

i have an xda main board from one that got the screen smashed. not tested cause i can't see anything, but i was still able to make the last call stored in the memory by pushing the talk button twice so it is probably functional. make an offer if you're interested.
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Possible micro-USB failure problem!!

Just to bring this to light for people to watch for.
As you should already know, the micro-USB port on the 'Kaiser' generic WM device is NON-standard.
That is it only has a single tapered side to ensure the HTC audio headset fits inside it. The stock wall charger I was supplied with also has this non-standard shape so fits snug and works 100%.
Problem with this is that any 'Third-party' or what we would actually call STANDARD micro-USB connectors, can move around within this port with a large degree of movement (most chargers and USB cables we all use!) thus causing damage to the delicate pins/PCB connections within, specifically to the non-tapered side.
It is my opinion (and you can shoot me down on this if you desire) that many failures of chargers and computer recognition can be attributed to this.
Please believe me when I say I do not say this is a flame of the device, but I think many can use this design fault as a way of getting a FREE repair from their supplier (which is as it should be!! as they supply a non-standard mini-USB charger and a STANDARD mini-USB cable in the box)..
All those I have advised in threads before, please link those threads to this one...Thanks..
These are threads that possibly relate to the USB physical failure. Please do NOT treat them as final...we are just trying to corealate similar data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362542
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362514
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345552
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355232
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353909
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359695
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361589
In this thread many have the problem by inserting the stylus in the USB receptacle BUT some also say they never made this mistake.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354472
Damn... I only went back ten pages to 24/12/07 and found these!!!
If you have any input on any port/comms failure over and above these threads please let me know... Thanks.

The pain is, we're all going to have to go through the hassle of reflashing the device back to its original state, then lose it for a week while its repaired and then get it set up just so again when it returns!
I have an original HTC TyTN II so I'm not going to be able to do an insurance 'hotswap' this time.

Many thanks farsquidge for pulling all these threads together!

Should this be posted in a more general section? I would think this doesn't only happen to Kaiser users.. and we're not getting much of a response in this section.

I am thinking I may have that problem. I have an old shop lamp with a magnifying glass and I am still having a problem looking at the pin details on the micro usb connector. Is there a drawing out there relating to what I should be seeing?

I just tried plugging my brother's WM 2003 phone onto my computer and it detected it right away.. Can it be possible that the USB port on my phone is damaged? it works great with everything else though..

DVS_WiNdz said:
I just tried plugging my brother's WM 2003 phone onto my computer and it detected it right away.. Can it be possible that the USB port on my phone is damaged? it works great with everything else though..
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Possibly not! The title of the thread is POSSIBLE Micro-USB failure..

HTC's Proprietary USB Diagram
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I the reason for my RMA was that the device would only charge on wall charger. My USB was slightly lowere on the right side. I believe that someone hit it on the head when they said that the home charger has a better fit & hence, keeps the connection were the PC cable & the Auto Chargers fail.

Since we still have warranty on our Kaisers, will HTC fix it?

Did anyone fix this problem yet?

micro-usb contacts...
this thread really hit the spot.
After killing my self trying to find the answer to why i could charge my device and not synch, i ran across this. indeed it was the metal contacts on the micro usb.
Gently, using a very thin flat tool, i was able to "reposition" on the B contact displayed in the picture above.
Once i did this, I reconnected the usb cable and viola...it worked!
Thanks everyone!

I just had to return my brand new TyTN II to the store I bought it from because of this problem. It charged in the wall but would not sync or be detected with the pc.
I already returned it for a refund. I do want to get another one but do not want to keep havening this same problem.
I almost wonder if I should have kept my orginal TyTN II and tried to fix it?
Thinking of getting a Tilt now since they are so much cheaper.

I'm on the phone with ATT right now and these A$$holes are trying to tell me that they WILL NOT cover this under warranty. I'm holding for a supervisor right now.
My device will take a charge from the USB cable or my wall charger but it will not take a charge from my car charger. I even went to the ATT store and asked them to hook it up to the car charger and they were the ones to tell me to call the warranty department.
This is ridiculous. I am going to raise Hell if they tell me that I have to pay for a new phone.

They're telling me that it is physical damage and they WILL NOT cover this under warranty.
I am beyond furious right now. I cursed this b!tch out and told her to go f0ck herself.
I don't think that was good for my cause.

$79 to fix it yourself
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...HTC+TyTN+II+Sync+Connector+Repair+Service.htm

Thank You Thank You Thank You
I have been trying to figure this out for months. I used a knife and moved the "B" pin up and it worked immediately. Did I say THANK YOU?

I went to the ATT Store where I purchased my Tilt and had the manager call the Warranty Department and tell them that there is no physical damage on the device.
They're sending me a new (refurb) one.
It's weird that I can use my USB cable and the wall charger that came with the device, but any other charger does not work.

thanks for helping me with this.
i think it's weird that any simple user, like my mum, would immediately check the connections and blow in the USB ports...whereas the advanced users forget to check the connections and straight away start reinstalling software.
Thanks again for this.

I'll be getting my replacement Tilt today. I hope I don't have any issues with it since it's a refurb.
If anyone tries to get a warranty replacement from ATT and they ask you if you can see anything wrong with it, SAY NO!!! It's almost like they try to trick you to say something is wrong with it so they can say it's physical damage.
I hope I remember to re-flash Hard SPL or I might be wondering why my rom flashing doesn't work.

see i totally screwed myself...i experienced these problems and continued to bend my usb connector all around and eventually broke that plastic piece out (first type with the holes)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359695
and then from that being out i smashed the syncing pin over and over and that broke out...tried to solder it..got it to stay and sync for a few days then stopped syncing again then re soldered it and got isopropyl alcohol on my water damage pad so now im trying to figure out what to do...then last night i smashed the +5v and broke that pin...so i cant revert the spl so my only options are pay the 79 bucks to have ppctechs fix it or slip that plastic piece back in (its stays in even if a usb plug is inserted), get something to replace that pad (maybe construction paper...just to fool the eyes as im sure they wont give that a second look), sticking it in bootloadetr mode so it "looks broken" and try to work a att store rep into replacing it on the spot due to the boot up screen and steer away from the usb port problem as i screwed myself on that lol...any advice?

weird... trying again

I have been having this problem for a while and I can't figure out a solution.
When I plug in my kaiser to the computer, everything seems to work fine, however the active sync won't start and won't recognize the device. Also the device won't charge even though it shows the amber ligtht and the screen become brighter when I connect. I have the same problem with my car chargers.
If I use the HTC splitter (USB and Audio) everthing works the way it should be. But if I use a direct cable, bypassing the splitter nothing works. What is in that splitter that makes everything work? About 2 months ago, I didn't need a splitter to have it working. Is it a Rom issue?
Guys I do need help. It just drives me crazy.
Thanks.

Could be a slightly damaged mini usb connection. Have a look at the bottom of your kaiser and see if any pins are moved in the USB ext connector.

Yeah guy, I reported this issue with Kaisers & specifically Tilts 6 months ago. Have a look at your USB port pin on the device. If it is curved or the right side of the pin is slightly lower (Not arrow straight) then you may have sloppily placed your stylus on a soft reset. Sometimes this can be fixed by VERY GENTLY bending it back into shape with the stylus or another semi-rigid & smooth tool, that's if it not to badly jacked up. Because it charges in the home charger I'm about 90% sure that's your issue.

you guys are right. THe usb was slightly bent. Upon reading about the problem, I straighten it back however still the same problem. I am looking into getting a big magnifier to see if I see anything out of order.
In the meantime does anybody know a place in Toronto who is capable to fix this issue? I know a lot of people have problems but I don't want to send the device away.

[Q] X1 big problem - 3.5mm- known + an unknown problem = damage

Hello people!
I still have problems with my xperia x1. I don't have money to buy another phone so I'm using it and would be ok if the case looked good (and if in my country i would find cheap parts) and it wouldn't had so many issues.
I think you didn't understand much from the title, basicly is another thread about known xperia x1 issues + 2 unknown.
So, by now
1- cracking case, scratching easy case
2- phone sometimes turn off when slide opened/closed rough. Can live with that
3. keyboard problems
4.headset problems
4.1. : all the time headphone icon showing on screen
4.2 : sound is not clear, is blured, so I have to pres on the phone in the area of the 3.5mm jack (i mean i have to press on the case in that area) or if i have the mini usb pluged in like charger and moved it back and fw i get an improvement, or by moving the headphone jack against and finding a right position, at firs I thought is form the headphone;s jack but i guess it was the connector chassis on the main board.(the headphone jack was very tight inside and stiff, so the problem wa not from the inner conectors)
4.3: together with 4.2 problem another probleam apeared. when I insert the headphones, sometimes and more and more often, the phone would start DIALING the last log from my call log (e.g. dialed/received) automaticaly. This realy pissed me off. I had to move around the headphones to avoid that, or turning off my phone network. I searched but I guess I am the onlyone with these 2 above mentioned problems (4.2 and 4.3)
So, because i bought this phone as a bargain (60 USD) as a faulty and repaired it, and had no waranty and not being scared to reopen it again, and most of my "quality" of not searching on the internet first, but trying to fix it by myself I found myself writing here a lil bit disapointed of what i did.
I opened it, tried to see wich conector is loose, then tried to put some peace of film to put pressure on the 3.5mm conector, it didn.t work.. then somehow the 4.1 problem apeared. I didn;t got this problem only once in 6 months and i solved it bak then easily with the help of my stilus. Of course I didn;t knew what was causing it. So I tried again with the stilus but this time it didn't work, and I panicked..15 minutes of pain...me trying to solve problem no. 4.2 and 4.3 and got 4.1 wich was there to stay...
started to twist the screwdriver inside rough, put pressure on the small conectors inside and outside,,and then...after pressing on the low conector i did it. It disapeared. So I was like evrika!!! I solved the problem and realisesd what was causing it. Someone else here wrote the same thing in another post, and did exactly like me, or me exactly like him
What it happens is: when headphone not inserted, the conector is touching another conector, and so this means the OFF position. When inserted - the tip og the headphone jack pushes against the conector, detaching the connection making the ON position. So when i pull of the headphones i get the ON state wich meant that there was conection (I pressed with a screwdriver and bend it there so it would alway make a conection).
BUT somehow, I didn't let it, and torn that litle piece , so know I am back again on headphones because I have no conection. So I did a conection and now it's ok but I can't use my headphones anymore + and now my 3.5 mm conector is dead.
Replace? How? Where I can find a 3.5mm chassis? It has 5 soldering conectors. I hope to replace it, and I hope that with this ocasion I will solve the 4.2 and 4.3 problem
Any clues on getting this part? Or a compatible one? Or a better one?
LE: so if you encounter problem 4.1 just insert the stilus in there and move it at the end of the hole or take a cotton bud and clean it with some alcohool, it might be dirty.
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no more x1 users here?

my X1 have hard-keyboard, scratching problems.
I'm using it more than a year but never had 3.5mm jack problems.
before giving some serious damages you should give your device to HTC or SE repair service.

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thanks for photos! just fixed my 3.5 mm jack

Usb charger port question!

Hi guys,
I hope this thread is in the right place but I have a question.
My usb charge port got bent a little bit and I had trouble charging my phone so I ordered from eBay the part I needed which is this thingy
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/New-USB-Charger-Port-Flex-Cable-Replacement-For-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-N7000-i9220-/00/s/NTAwWDUwMA==/z/4msAAOxyMxpRpE~d/$(KGrHqMOKpYFGWfj3M)VBRpE+d(Spw~~60_12.JPG
and then when I got it I installed it according to an excellent guide I found on youtube.
When I installed it,the USB charge port came back to life but the microphone (which I late found out was attached to the same flex part) was broken so I had to use my speaker for two weeks until the seller shipped the part again.
Today I installed the part again and now the USB charge port works fine,the microphone works fine,but to my supprise - the speaker doesn't!
My question is :
1.is the speaker also connected to this part and due to that I have this problem or is it possible that something else went wrong ?
Please only answer if you're sure of what you say.
2.Where can I get this part (OEM) from a place that will surely send a working part ? (if it's not possible to write it down here, please PM me)
Thank to all you helpers out there!!!

Double post and in the wrong section, please flag to the mods and get this closed.
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beniferg said:
Hi guys,
I hope this thread is in the right place but I have a question.
My usb charge port got bent a little bit and I had trouble charging my phone so I ordered from eBay the part I needed which is this thingy
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/New-USB-Charger-Port-Flex-Cable-Replacement-For-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-N7000-i9220-/00/s/NTAwWDUwMA==/z/4msAAOxyMxpRpE~d/$(KGrHqMOKpYFGWfj3M)VBRpE+d(Spw~~60_12.JPG
and then when I got it I installed it according to an excellent guide I found on youtube.
When I installed it,the USB charge port came back to life but the microphone (which I late found out was attached to the same flex part) was broken so I had to use my speaker for two weeks until the seller shipped the part again.
Today I installed the part again and now the USB charge port works fine,the microphone works fine,but to my supprise - the speaker doesn't!
My question is :
1.is the speaker also connected to this part and due to that I have this problem or is it possible that something else went wrong ?
Please only answer if you're sure of what you say.
2.Where can I get this part (OEM) from a place that will surely send a working part ? (if it's not possible to write it down here, please PM me)
Thank to all you helpers out there!!!
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Open up the phone again. and check the screws that hold down the usb port
the speaker is attached to the plastic cover on top of the usb port. it is not making contact with the right points.
try it whilst the phone is on, play a audio or video file and hold down that part with your fingers. u will see that it will work.
meaning that the screws are either loose or too tight and not properly aligned.

4llerbuntu said:
Open up the phone again. and check the screws that hold down the usb port
the speaker is attached to the plastic cover on top of the usb port. it is not making contact with the right points.
try it whilst the phone is on, play a audio or video file and hold down that part with your fingers. u will see that it will work.
meaning that the screws are either loose or too tight and not properly aligned.
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DUDE - You have no idea how right you are!
so many people told me so many different things but you got this right on spot!
Thank you so much,solved my problem in 5 minutes!