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HTC Magic software/ROM????????

hello all,
i love HTC software/ROM's (touch it from Itje), but have came across what looks to be the best software going, it is the HTC magic software, i am thinking to get rid of my xperia and getting the HTC, unless there is some amazing person who will be able to copy it to a ROM for our xperia.
have a look at following page to see for yourself:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/magic/overview.html
thank you in advance

scorpio2008 said:
hello all,
i love HTC software/ROM's (touch it from Itje), but have came across what looks to be the best software going, it is the HTC magic software, i am thinking to get rid of my xperia and getting the HTC, unless there is some amazing person who will be able to copy it to a ROM for our xperia.
have a look at following page to see for yourself:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/magic/overview.html
thank you in advance
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This is a phone with Andriod (Google's Mobile Phone OS) as OS system, so impossible to run on a Windows Mobile phone ..

FalkenX said:
This is a phone with Andriod (Google's Mobile Phone OS) as OS system, so impossible to run on a Windows Mobile phone ..
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Rubbish.
While we might not be there yet there is no technical reason why this is not achievable. We don't have drivers and specs and the like that are needed to do the job properly YET. There is nothing which fundamentally makes running Android/Linux impossible other than current lack of information.

reborg said:
Rubbish.
While we might not be there yet there is no technical reason why this is not achievable. We don't have drivers and specs and the like that are needed to do the job properly YET. There is nothing which fundamentally makes running Android/Linux impossible other than current lack of information.
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Drivers and specs? Dude, please learn something about Andriod, its totally different as WM, so with a driver or some tweaks it is impossible to run on a WM phone, you would have to rebuild the whole os which isnt an opperation similar to cooking a rom..

have a read in the android dev forums. I think the SPL is different, but may be wrong. So i don't think it's as simple as just using an nbh (which is a pity).. The g1 is also a HTC device.. some of the guys on the G1 forums would explain exactly whether it was possible or not..
However there is continual development on building android for current devices, including a thread in this very forum.. See Xmoo for details..

Yeah, emulating another up-to-date OS...just think of all the the 15years old gameboy and NES-games that are still slow when they are emulated under Windows Mobile.
The only possibility would be to not emulate Android but boot it instead of Windows Mobile...but I don't think the hardware is built for this so you won't get everything to work as it's meant to be.
By the way...Android is ugly in my opinion.

i think it must be possible.....
cause the Magic has the same chipset like touch HD and so the hardware should be very similar.....
i know a guy who was flashing a symbian OS on an Sony ericsson W810i and it runs..... extremely slow but it runs.
i think the only thing would be the different display resolution...... and some driver things but i have no skills in programmng so dont ask me xD

Err...........
It is possible and even i the case of Vogue CDMA, most functions are working
Diamond and Raphael has managed to boot Android 1.0 and even get the radio working (though no bluetooth, wifi, 3G nor sound yet) so sending SMSs is possible and so is making calls, though you can't hear anything because there is no sound yet.
Blackstone also recently managed to fix the screen issue...
I'm sure there are more projects going on, but it's definitly possible to run Android on WM devices

Well I've got 1.0 booting on the x1.. Unfortunately I havent got the touchscreen working just yet... the onscreen keyboard does, not the screen.
I will work on it when I get a chance, but my linux box is at work, so experimenting is best when I get a chance there.
Screen colours are perfect, the screens still upside down though..
I'm still learning about how this works, but I'm learning quickly..
as to the talk of emulators, this isn't emulation..

Android?

I admit that I am a complete rookie when it comes to any serious modifications oh phones, but I have recently been diving in as deep as I can with the help of this great forum. I am curious if anyone thinks it will even be possible/easy to get the latest version of Android running on the Imagio (US Verizon) at some point.
Thanks

Why not just buy the HTC Droid Eris?

rjygraham said:
Why not just buy the HTC Droid Eris?
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Because I just bought the Imagio.

I'm sure once this beast is unlocked it will be ported over.

kaseapfe said:
I admit that I am a complete rookie when it comes to any serious modifications oh phones, but I have recently been diving in as deep as I can with the help of this great forum. I am curious if anyone thinks it will even be possible/easy to get the latest version of Android running on the Imagio (US Verizon) at some point.
Thanks
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Yeah, just hang in there. Duno why it's taking so long to get the unlock, but whatever........ It'll be soon and then it's bye-bye Verizon!!

I am definitely interested in this, but I also feel that the resistive touch screen will limit the touch functionality,

while its resistive touch, its extremely responsive. its very intuitive, it reacts when you want it to and never reacts to an accidental touch. i wouldnt let that hinder you.
i know they got android running on the omnia so i see no reason why it wont be running on the imagio. i started a thread here to try to collect some spl unlock information for newbies like myself, maybe we can figure it out sooner rather than later.

I would love this. I had one for my tytnII on AT&T. It would be even better now especially if we could get 2.1 running.

someone should cruz over to the blackstone forum and try the android build. It isnt a flash, you boot it from within windows.The imagio and the blackstone are virtually the same device.

Not really.

mallman said:
someone should cruz over to the blackstone forum and try the android build. It isnt a flash, you boot it from within windows.The imagio and the blackstone are virtually the same device.
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Actually you guys should Try the Topaz build. The Imagio is a different looking Touch Diamond2/ AT&T Pure. I doubt it will since you guys have a different size screen and mebe other Hardware changes because it's CDMA but you could try.
The Topaz Android does work on the Touch Pro 2. The Imagio could be considered the bastard child of the Diamond2 and Pro2.

nobody listen to this bs. only flash your phone with imagio roms. if you are going to run an enviroment, make sure it is for the imagio. the imagio might kinda look like this phone and act like that phone, but its not this or that phone. dont screw your device up. just hang in there.

You are a complete retard. Don't post before you research. Android on a Windows Mobile device does not require a flash. It is an image that boots up inside of WM and "kills" WM and boots Android. It causes absolutely no harm to your phone.
RESEARCH before you post your dumb idiotic ideas that have absolutely no base.

listen dumbass,
i told them not to use roms and various other crap made for other phones, because and i know this may come to a shock to someone who is an expert like you, but..............phones vary. why dont you do some research. start by googling "whats a phone" and then go on to searching "why am i such a dumbass"

yet again IMAGE not a ROM. If you start the IMAGE in windows mobile it will boot android. If you RESET the phone its windows mobile again..... No harm, no damage......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782
http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser:install
"Installing Android
Currently, Android is booted from within Windows Mobile. It does not run INSIDE Windows Mobile nor is it emulated! An application named HaRET is used as a bootloader to REBOOT the device into Android."
Now I am sorry if I offended you and I agree people should not just go and put and ROM on your phone...
I am also not responsible if someone does mess up there stuff, precautions should be taken.

I understand how the whole android ordeal works, i was voicing concern over the fact that it says Kaiser. It doesent say WinMo, it specifically says Kaiser. I can only assume this is because it has not been tested for full functionality on other devices. While yes, I see no real reason why this shouldnt work, it truthfully may not. You and me both have been there man, you put something on your phone, it should work, it works, then suddenly your hard resetting. I simply dont want any newbies to start throwing stuff for different model phones on their device thinking its going to be fine. I was simply saying if it isnt designed for your model phone specifically, do some research, ask around see if someone has it working on their device.

Kaiser = HTC Kaiser which is a Windows Mobile phone.

*sigh* honestly, just forget it.

Americanmetal said:
Kaiser = HTC Kaiser which is a Windows Mobile phone.
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Just because it is a Windows Mobile phone doesn't mean it will work...
HTC Kaiser DOES NOT equal HTC Imagio.
The entire basis of why we are still waiting for ROMs on the Imagio is because it is a DIFFERENT phone model..obviously just because there is an Android build able to run on Windows Mobile doesn't mean we can just use it right off the bat.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=104666
case in point. this guy had to tweak it heavily and it still doesent work right.
why?
because its not a direct line. yes, kaiser= htc kaiser blah blah blah
but phone models are DIFFERENT.
whether its a rom, or a .cab, or ANYTHING if it isnt made for your phone, theres a good chance it WONT work. theres your proof. if this build worked on ALL windows mobile phones, various builds dedicated to specific models would not be around folks. thank you.

{q} can we get flashable android rom

?????????????????

The Devs are working on this at the moment on some other devices.

It's a Fake! NAND storage is not aviable at Topaz in this moment!

Damn it, I really wish it would be possible already.

As shavenyaknz posted, devs are working on a flashable ROM for Rhodium. Considering the huge similarities between Topaz and Rhod, their work should be easily ported to Topaz when the time comes.
However, right now the project relies on windows to initialize a good deal of stuff so that it would work on Android. So it'll take a lot of work to succeed in making the Kernel initialize everything properly.

HD2 can do it , we can too

Winmo is better
Windows mobile is better than android any day of the week, unless you are at least half retarded. just enjoy the fact that WinMo is built by a talented company and not an overnight internet fad corp and shut the hell up! Anything Android can do, WinMo can do better. ipso facto. end of story.

Uuuh no, that is all based on opinion. Sure, the windows mobile os is cleaner and has other benefits (including, if you have HTC) HTC sense UI, but nowadays, people want a phone that can do anything, and, even you would admit, windows mobile has far fewer apps then Android (official ones at least) and Android is becoming quite common among the smartphone croud. I like microsoft, but even I think they kinda dropped the ball on this one. However, I do think that Windows Phone 7 is a step in the right direction.

HTC OS
Hey i had this idea for a few days but only now i found a chat where i can ask it. Is there Symbian os for HTC devices?; and if there is where can i find it(if there isn't then why???)

thoughtunleashed said:
Anything Android can do, WinMo can do better.
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So why doesn't it?? If it did we wouldn't be lusting after android.

thoughtunleashed said:
Windows mobile is better than android any day of the week, unless you are at least half retarded. just enjoy the fact that WinMo is built by a talented company and not an overnight internet fad corp and shut the hell up! Anything Android can do, WinMo can do better. ipso facto. end of story.
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Are you for real?

The problem on my topaz is, that the data.img gets too big to fit in the phone-storage. I cooked a WM6.1 ROM without any HTC-devices and the there was still not enough space on the device.
Maybe the developers of xdandroid try to change the internal links for data.img to the storage device. This could work

inselstaat said:
The problem on my topaz is, that the data.img gets too big to fit in the phone-storage. I cooked a WM6.1 ROM without any HTC-devices and the there was still not enough space on the device.
Maybe the developers of xdandroid try to change the internal links for data.img to the storage device. This could work
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maybe a 128M data.img will do

thoughtunleashed said:
Windows mobile is better than android any day of the week, unless you are at least half retarded. just enjoy the fact that WinMo is built by a talented company and not an overnight internet fad corp and shut the hell up! Anything Android can do, WinMo can do better. ipso facto. end of story.
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GPS connects better on android, so not everything by windows is better.

Android is better. I've been winmobile ever since the Orange SPV and imho Android ****s all over winmobile (except 7). I can't wait until I can flash android on my TD2, tho I'll probably have saved up the cash for an HD7 by then!

txtter said:
HD2 can do it , we can too
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HD2 is the best HTC device ever!
TD2 is like wannabe... But stillt would like to have android running from nand. hd2 running it that way seems to bee very stable and fast, also with sense ui. looking forward

txtter said:
HD2 can do it , we can too
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Who is this "we" you are exactly referring to?

"TD2 is like wannabe" What??????
wavesshock said:
HD2 is the best HTC device ever!
TD2 is like wannabe... But stillt would like to have android running from nand. hd2 running it that way seems to bee very stable and fast, also with sense ui. looking forward
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The HD2 is the bigger version of the TD2
I have the TD2 befor HTC made the HD2
Now I have the Desire and gave the TD2 to my wife. And she want now to have the Android in the TD2 too.

wavesshock said:
HD2 is the best HTC device ever!
TD2 is like wannabe... But stillt would like to have android running from nand. hd2 running it that way seems to bee very stable and fast, also with sense ui. looking forward
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my only phone upgrade will ever be an hd2 i am not switching os's.... ive tried them all... seriouslly all!!!
i am only slightly tempted by WP7...
im gonna buy enough HD2's to last me the rest of my life...

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[Q] Dual boot?

I was wondering if dual booting would be possible on our phone? I've seen that the HD2 got winmo + android boot... But having some kind of Stable partition and a second "dev" one would be quite amazing...
Thanks!

I asked the same question, and my post was moved to Q and A. Most responses were that WinMo is not worthy of the hardware. WP7 didn't attract quite the same disdain.
I would really love to run WP7 on the captivate, and I think eventually someone will make it happen. I think WinMo would run amazingly smooth, but I doubt we'll ever find out.
The HD2 won't quite run android ROMs, you have to boot into WinMo, then restart in Android, but it is really easy to swap what "ROM" you are using. If the HD2 was capable of AT&T 3G, I would have one by now.
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Yes please to WP7 on Captivate. If nothing else i want to be able to run it for a few days to see how I like that new software. And check out the Xbox Live integration

yes, i only have one phone but would like to learn to do some basic development and it would be nice to have a stable rom to switch back to on the fly. i've had problems using nandroid and titanium backup. if anyone knows of a way to change to or add a secondary boot loader so multiple os's can be launched that would be awesome.
minmo might be a bit impractical but multiple android installations would be cool sweet.

Ok.. well get a checklist started on what you would need:
A custom bootloader that would work with the Captivate.. And I'm sure people would want the choice to pick the OS upon bootup instead of having to go into the recovery screen and booting up from there.
It would also have to be compatible with working Android and Win7
Someone would then have to find the source code to Win7 - or at least the SDK for it and develop in whatever language its written in.
Then someone would have to code the drivers for the Captivate and Win7 mobile.
Pretty much.. it wouldn't be any type of "take n' bake" task and would be quite the project involving a ton of work.
I'm sure someone out there in the world will come up with it.. I mean someone took the time to port Android to the iPhone - so it "could" happen.. but most likely won't due to the huge amount of work it will take.

avgjoegeek said:
Ok.. well get a checklist started on what you would need:
A custom bootloader that would work with the Captivate.. And I'm sure people would want the choice to pick the OS upon bootup instead of having to go into the recovery screen and booting up from there.
It would also have to be compatible with working Android and Win7
Someone would then have to find the source code to Win7 - or at least the SDK for it and develop in whatever language its written in.
Then someone would have to code the drivers for the Captivate and Win7 mobile.
Pretty much.. it wouldn't be any type of "take n' bake" task and would be quite the project involving a ton of work.
I'm sure someone out there in the world will come up with it.. I mean someone took the time to port Android to the iPhone - so it "could" happen.. but most likely won't due to the huge amount of work it will take.
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At least there's a Samsung Omnia 7. It has a 4" SAMOLED like ours. I hope it has more in common with us as well so it would make the process easier.

JayPhill89 said:
At least there's a Samsung Omnia 7. It has a 4" SAMOLED like ours. I hope it has more in common with us as well so it would make the process easier.
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if winmo gets ported great, if not oh well, if you read the op it was not to get winmo but just used the hd2 as an example of dual boot on a phone. a boot loader is a starting point so can the topic go in that direction? i just dont want naysayers to get confused and tell us every reason we wont get or dont want winmo.

You cannot just take the source code for WP7. It is not open source. You can port android to things, but not the other way around.

nbs11 said:
You cannot just take the source code for WP7. It is not open source. You can port android to things, but not the other way around.
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As Dani897 said, the thread is not about porting WP7 to our phone, but just having dual boot to be able to have (lets say) one stable rom and one dev rom on the same phone...

seriously want this to happen figure it out

Will there be an Android ROM for the X1 before long?

Hi folks,
I know this question has been asked before, and the topic discussed, by I couldn't find any current threads/posts about it. My question is: now that Android on the X1 is fairly stable, will there soon be an Android ROM that replaces WinMo altogether?
I would very much enjoy that, and I think other people would as well. There are Android ROMs for a few WinMo devices, so it can be done, although I'm not familiar with the specifics myself.
A big thanks to everybody involved in developing Android for the X1. The only reason I'm keeping my copy is to one day use it as an extra Android device
Cheers

android on Х1 is fun, no more ... I do not think that you need a full ROM, enough Haret

All Android builds released by now use the HaRET launcher and are getting more stable, faster and better looking. There are some devs working on NAND flashing to completely replace WM. This can be done with TinBoot and magldr (not released yet). Just wait for the devs, they are working on it.

I think I'mma keep my x1 for 2 more years if I can have a niceworking android ROM on it! I'm going to learn how to help for it when I have time because I love it, plus I think i'll start to cook a WM rom because I want a simple and fast one =)

+1
i'm waiting for a real android rom for my X1.
i'm feedup with Winmo

i do not think you could enjoy android from nand.... ok, its running, but not stable! there is much work to do! but there are not much devs working on x1 right now. now 2 years left since the X1 was released. the devs have a working set of files to run android, but without the option to reset/change to a new version the releases are not stable now.
you have to wait... dont know if this would ever happen....

Not anytime soon. Or maybe even never.
There are Android ROMs for a few WinMo devices, so it can be done
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Can you be more specific? I can't find device that have public release with NAND Android.
EDIT: Ah i see, Tinboot can boot from NAND on TyTN II. But as i see, these builds are far from perfect. Even WiFi won't work there.
As for X1, AFAIK there were some attempts, but even screen was not working there.

matejdro said:
Can you be more specific? I can't find device that have public release with NAND Android.
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I was thinking of the HTC Vogue specifically. Check out this Wired article:
DIYers Hack Windows Mobile Phones to Run Android

DillonDarko said:
All Android builds released by now use the HaRET launcher and are getting more stable, faster and better looking. There are some devs working on NAND flashing to completely replace WM. This can be done with TinBoot and magldr (not released yet). Just wait for the devs, they are working on it.
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Sounds great, hope you're right I don't care if Android doesn't run flawlessly and if things are missing. I'm never going to use my X1 as a WinMo device again anyway, I just want to run Android on it - even if it works so-so.

Does anyone know about the progress of an Android ROM for the X1? Are the wonderful devs still working on it..?
Cheers

we making nand boot rom
its rom without wm and autoboot android from sd

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That's great news, thanks for replying!

this is also the only reason i still come to x1 forum a lot.
but i doubt it will ever happen
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booting Android
Hi all,
maybe is this nog usefull or not the right place, but if you want to boot android on your X1, you can make a shortcut in the windows startup folder to haret.exe
when you start your X1, Android will start immediately. maybe this is helpfull for someone who doens't now before.
grtz.
(sry for my english)

Judging by the very few developers for X1 left, I don't think that is going to happen.

Thanks for the tip, polcomp
I do believe that there will be an Android ROM, actually. It seems like they're still making a lot of progress.