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Newbie question

Hi, still trying to decide which ROM to flash, but...
Will the programs originally installed on the device eg. mobile office, remain on the device or will they be removed?

It depends on what the new ROM has in it. Most of the ROMS I've seen have mobile office plus a lot of other great apps.
Also, once you flash, you loose all of your personal files, I always keep them on the SD Card.

Before anyone else may tell this to you...
DON'T DARE TO FLASH YOUR DEVICE!!!!
Reading your doubt, it's clear you haven't read any piece of informations written on this forum and it's clear you'll end up bricking your device.
I'm writing this to you cause as you can see from my posts number I'm a newbie too... but reading-reading and reading again I succeed to flash my 2 htc device whitout the need to ask anything... everything is just explained.
But you need to follow word by word what is written and, let me say that, you havent read a lot, dont you???
BTW, to be more usefull, flashing your device will erase everything (OS included) on it and then install newer versions of originally shipped programs and many other goodies (if you are upgrading, of course... and depending on the ROM you choose). (Extended-ROM is a discussion apart ... again: read&read&read!)

N1kko said:
Before anyone else may tell this to you...
DON'T DARE TO FLASH YOUR DEVICE!!!!
Reading your doubt, it's clear you haven't read any piece of informations written on this forum and it's clear you'll end up bricking your device.
I'm writing this to you cause as you can see from my posts number I'm a newbie too... but reading-reading and reading again I succeed to flash my 2 htc device whitout the need to ask anything... everything is just explained.
But you need to follow word by word what is written and, let me say that, you havent read a lot, dont you???
BTW, to be more usefull, flashing your device will erase everything (OS included) on it. (Extended-ROM is a discussion apart ... again: read&read&read!)
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Thanks for your concern.
I must say though, that I am reading everything I come across.
I haven't as of yet decided which ROM I will use, but I'm not stupid. I won't flash until I'm confident I have learned enough to do so, and asking questions helps you learn.

get a list of things which you want in your rom, pick the one which meets most of them or the most important ones.
faria, molski and ppctuning seem to have the best roms. some programs are not yet fully working on wm6 (spb time is one example i use a lot), the (now quite old) 2.3 aku are the fastest roms. then wm6. then aku 3+
faria has a lot of apps in the rom so if you use those, you can save a lot of space for installing other stuff (games etc) which are less commonly used by others.
YMMV. this is just what i have found by trying nearly 20 different roms, i don't use my phone for much so most of the stuff in roms i don't use, i just use the fastest rom, which for me is the ppctuning superrom1.1

bbobeckyj said:
get a list of things which you want in your rom, pick the one which meets most of them or the most important ones.
faria, molski and ppctuning seem to have the best roms. some programs are not yet fully working on wm6 (spb time is one example i use a lot), the (now quite old) 2.3 aku are the fastest roms. then wm6. then aku 3+
faria has a lot of apps in the rom so if you use those, you can save a lot of space for installing other stuff (games etc) which are less commonly used by others.
YMMV. this is just what i have found by trying nearly 20 different roms, i don't use my phone for much so most of the stuff in roms i don't use, i just use the fastest rom, which for me is the ppctuning superrom1.1
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Thanks, now I know what I'm looking for I can look in the right places.

Can anyone cook me a rom? Be happy to buy a crate of beer for someone who can?

Ok......
I bought my X1 in Taiwan, with the intention of flashing to an english rom, because i obviously haven't a clue about chinese, and english langue ones are not available here.
I've been flashing custom roms for a while, both on the X1 and on my old Wallaby and Ef's but havent found anything that ever really suits my needs.
I like the windows 6.5 roms, but WVGAfix doesnt seem to work with any of the builds despite saying it does which kinda makes all 6.5 obsolete for me because of the amount of software that doesnt work with a WVGA screen.
Which leaves 6.1. I have tried loads different 6.1 builds, but find there are certain things that always stop me wanting to keep them.
So my question is can anyone build a rom that is almost a light rom, that just has a few essential elements built in. One that might last me a couple of months, or at least until Mobile 7 is released as opposed to reflashing every few days. I have looked into cooking, but simply dont have the time with work to really get good at it. It drives me nuts having to reinstall everything and sync contacts every time i flash a new rom.
If i was going to build my own ROM i would be looking for a lite and fast 6.1 build that has to me what i would consider some essential apps cooked in.
Manilla
USB popup
Advanced config
Radio
Audio Booster
Htorch
All the finger friendly features
Xperia R3A Camera to replace the HTC camera within manilla.
MSN Push mail (not messanger)
Specifically i would really like to avoid all the things that are updated regularly, such opera, youtube, facebook, google maps etc, and all the things which would seem to me to be a waste of space / speed, such as
MP3 trimmer, panel manager and additional panels.
Basically a stripped lite Rom, with manilla and its associated features.
I have tried flashing lite roms, and installing manilla, but its a real hastle, and never gets as good a results as some of the outstanding chefs here. I can't be alone in wanting a rom like this? so i guess my last question is....is anyone up for the task or am i about to get flamed for something i should be doing myself?

ddevey said:
Ok......
I bought my X1 in Taiwan, with the intention of flashing to an english rom, because i obviously haven't a clue about chinese, and english langue ones are not available here.
I've been flashing custom roms for a while, both on the X1 and on my old Wallaby and Ef's but havent found anything that ever really suits my needs.
I like the windows 6.5 roms, but WVGAfix doesnt seem to work with any of the builds despite saying it does which kinda makes all 6.5 obsolete for me because of the amount of software that doesnt work with a WVGA screen.
Which leaves 6.1. I have tried loads different 6.1 builds, but find there are certain things that always stop me wanting to keep them.
So my question is can anyone build a rom that is almost a light rom, that just has a few essential elements built in. One that might last me a couple of months, or at least until Mobile 7 is released as opposed to reflashing every few days. I have looked into cooking, but simply dont have the time with work to really get good at it. It drives me nuts having to reinstall everything and sync contacts every time i flash a new rom.
If i was going to build my own ROM i would be looking for a lite and fast 6.1 build that has to me what i would consider some essential apps cooked in.
Manilla
USB popup
Advanced config
Radio
Audio Booster
Htorch
All the finger friendly features
Xperia R3A Camera to replace the HTC camera within manilla.
MSN Push mail (not messanger)
Specifically i would really like to avoid all the things that are updated regularly, such opera, youtube, facebook, google maps etc, and all the things which would seem to me to be a waste of space / speed, such as
MP3 trimmer, panel manager and additional panels.
Basically a stripped lite Rom, with manilla and its associated features.
I have tried flashing lite roms, and installing manilla, but its a real hastle, and never gets as good a results as some of the outstanding chefs here. I can't be alone in wanting a rom like this? so i guess my last question is....is anyone up for the task or am i about to get flamed for something i should be doing myself?
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I don't do custom rom for others but my medium rom seems to fits most of your requirement. (How can you call it a "lite" rom if you need manila that has thousands of file?)

UPS
I was just going to recommend you trying Jack's Medium

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UPS
I was just going to recommend you tring Jack's Medium
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hee hee, I will recommend yrs and Itje's if he is asking for 6.5.

Oddly enough i have just tried Jacks 3.6 medium rom and its very fast.....i like it......keep testing for a few days and see how it goes, but looks real good so far!!
Jack - You're right in that i suppose with manilla in it isnt a light rom, but i would define anything that goes into a light rom as something that is necessary for the operation of the phone. As windows mobile 6.1 is BUTT ugly and finger unfriendly, i would classify manilla or equivalent as something that is pretty necessary!

ddevey said:
Oddly enough i have just tried Jacks 3.6 medium rom and its very fast.....i like it......keep testing for a few days and see how it goes, but looks real good so far!!
Jack - You're right in that i suppose with manilla in it isnt a light rom, but i would define anything that goes into a light rom as something that is necessary for the operation of the phone. As windows mobile 6.1 is BUTT ugly and finger unfriendly, i would classify manilla or equivalent as something that is pretty necessary!
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I tend to think otherwise, you're right with wm6.1 being finger unfriendly. And there is lots of stuff (ie manila, spb mobile shell, eg) that can help you with that. And the choice is rather personal, something you would add later into a lite rom according to your needs.
(little remark, I'm not a manila fan so maybe a bit judged)

Help with crooked rom need a good stable wm6.5 rom

hey guys my names marc and im pretty much completely new to flashing cooked roms. ive flash oem roms on my tilt before but when it comes to trying to find a good crooked rom or even really just how to do it correctly without bricking my phone im at a lost. Reading all the stuff is starting to make it highly confusing lol. Im really just trying to find a good stable wm 6.5 rom maybe with a couple tweaks for my phone bc im so tired of this basic 6.1 i have on my phone right now with all the gayness that insuades from it with all the bugs and lags. If any of you guys could help that would be awesome. Please help im

So you're saying that the step by step guide is too hard for you to use?
I'm not sure how someone else can help you better, 7 steps aren't that many. I would suggest you not even try to flash roms on this phone if the below link is too difficult to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835

I've only tried a few cooked ROMs with my new (only slightly used by previous owner) Kaiser, but flashed quite a few onto my Elfin, and those experiences give me a good sense of when a WM phone is 'happy' and when it's not. I've settled on following development by ahmedfikry, as his bare-bones WM6.5.3 ROM are really snappy in response, and allow a lot of flexibility for the user to install, or not, any software into main memory (Windows folder) they like. Installing to that folder, rather than the usual \Program Files or onto microSD, is preferable to maintain smooth operation for some kinds of programs, especially important for Today plugins and system enhancing plugins such as SPB shell stuff, etc. Using his fairly simple guide, I found it dead easy to flash. The only hesitation I had was in selecting from the sometimes un-described enhancement CABs in his XDA_UC folder (placed in the microSD root directory, installed automagically on first boot after flashing without any user initiation), as being new to the Kaiser I was not yet familiar with some of these. But there seems nothing overly difficult there, just a bit of research perhaps. I'll tweak my selections further next time I have a few hours to flash and manually customize per my preferences.
His ROM thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618767
I really do highly recommend this version. I need my phone every day for work, and cannot afford a buggy ROM or I'd annoy customers too much. My Elfin sort of kind of died, so the Kaiser is it for me. With this ROM my Kaiser is happy. Next flash, I'll be putting a host of my long time favourite apps into that UC folder, as the Kaiser has plenty of main memory I otherwise don't use.

hey thanks "GerardSamija" yeah i use my tilt for pretty much the same deal. my phoneis my job pretty much i use it to keep up contacts through and make many business related calls and such. so exactilly what i was looking for is rom without to much bloatware and wasnt buggy or laggy so this seems to be a good fit thanks again

[Q] Touch Diamond Roms

Hi,getting my htc touch diamond this week (its in the mail) & was wondering as some of you folks out there have had yours a few years now can you give me a list of names for roms you think are worth trying ie Energy rom ,then i can go find them & collect them all to try out,i seen the energy one on utube love the icons & smoothnes of it but would like you guys ideas knowing more than me... thyanks in advance Ali... lincolnshire uk

There is so much variety out there. It really depends what you want to get from your device. Just have a look through the ROM section and pick out one with what you need.
Personally I use this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740252
It's the fastest and most stable ROM I've tried yet.

Cheers for that yeh i been looking it seems there loads to pick from,ime just getting my head round how to flash one,i have flashed it but not the mtty way so just reading how to do it that way.. dont seem as easy maby ime missing some thing..

To much info for me...:)

I've got a few questions, and there's so much stuff on this forum, that i can't seem to find what i'm looking for.
I own a dutch TP2 without a simlock, just to make clear.
I'm looking for a very simple, fast and stable rom.
I only use the phone for calling, sms, i-net with opera or skyfire, and sometimes i watch a youtube movie. So i don't need everything else. Only thing i have on my phone now is the simple start menu and S2U2. I don't even use Sense.
Is there such a rom out there, that works on my phone?
And is there a "n00b guide" for how to flash it?
Tnx in advance

I'd say try mine LBFAR based on COM2 (21899), it is probably the fastest ROM featuring Manila. Don't worry, it is 100 times faster than Sense, while it keeps nice and cool UI .
You can try mine also COM5 (23569), but it isn't bugless and I'm afraid I will never fix some issues, because they are unfixable.

yes, there is a guide for how to flash it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
be sure to read the whole guide before you flash it. Flashing the ROM is not too hard although can be a bit intimidating for the first time but after you have done it, it's not too bad.
For your need, I would suggest go with the titanium based roms, these roms took out all of the extras and just have the essentials in it. A lot of people like the long time establishment, such as Energy ROM. I personally have been using energy's rom and happy with it as to which oen is the best or most stable that's a bit hard to say because each ROM can be slightly different. You can also opt for a few other ROM that simply stripe all of the extras and use them.

I second that, Ondrster's ROM is incredibly fast and stable. I'm not using it ATM, but I would recommend it to anyone. If you want a lot of features and want to avoid HTC's UI all together, try NRG's titanium ROM, full of features, and very stable and fast. You might also want to look at using a different UI, such as SPB Mobile Shell; which is customizable and widget based, allowing you to keep your homescreen layout quite simple (it's also great on battery life).

Information overload... I agree. I am Dutch and have a HTC Pro2 too, just like you. Sometimes I come here on the forums, because I'd like to see what ROMS are there. This time my eye fell on this one:
"[ROM] [WWE] [ August 21 ] [ simplicity - 21915 | 23130 | Sense 2018 ]"
Wow! Looks fast, and not too different from the original WM 6.5 software. I decided to give it a go... So I start to read, and sure enough, I'm confused again before you know it and decided not to bother with it. First reason was this:
"IMPORTANT: Make sure you have used Hard-SPL before flashing any ROM. I also recommend you to use Task 29 each time before flashing any ROM."
Hard-what? Why do I need that? So ok, I click on the link, go to another thread, see tons of info with bigletters and red warnings etc. but NO INFO ON WHAT IT ACTUALLY DOES! Confuuuusingggggg... And Task29? What the heck is THAT?! Must I really read 100+ pages per thread?
See, you guys might understand a lot of this stuff, but not all of us do. My wish is that it would be made easy and understandable so I don't just keep coming and going but nothing changes on this microsoft dominated *** slow phone that contains a lot of sh* i don't even need....
Bleh. I'll keep trying until I get it.

In few words: HardSPL disables checking when flashing, if the ROM is from HTC or any other people (in default, it is enabled only for HTC of course).
Task29 is overrated IMHO, I never did it and I never had any issues . If you don't have strange and weird issues that happen only for you, you can forget about task29.

OndraSter said:
In few words: HardSPL disables checking when flashing, if the ROM is from HTC or any other people (in default, it is enabled only for HTC of course).
Task29 is overrated IMHO, I never did it and I never had any issues . If you don't have strange and weird issues that happen only for you, you can forget about task29.
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OK thank you for the answer. I have browsed much and have read that Task29 removes stale files that have not been removed after ROM upgrades. Perhaps I'll give it a go later on. Right now I am waiting for a HardSPL key, because I understand that I need one. After that I'm going to flash my first ROM! So exciting...!!
I have used my calendar a lot and I sync it with ActiveSync daily. I won't lose the calendar, will I? I think that I can just sync it back after ROM flashing.. but if I am overlooking something, please let me know
OldSkool-II >> How are you doing with your flashing quest?

If it's synced, you should be fine.

If you want a fast and completely stable ROM then stay with Windows Mobile 6.1, don't care if someone has a "fast" version of any WM6.5 out there.
It's like saying Windows Vista is faster, and more stable, than Windows XP. Regardless of all the tweaking you do XP will always be faster.
But give both versions a try if since you're new to flashing and if one bothers you then just keep flashing , I've had this ROM on my phone for moths and it doesn't even cross my mind to even want to try a new ROM or look for anything else. It's as perfect as it can get in fact lol.

buru898 said:
If you want a fast and completely stable ROM then stay with Windows Mobile 6.1, don't care if someone has a "fast" version of any WM6.5 out there.
It's like saying Windows Vista is faster, and more stable, than Windows XP. Regardless of all the tweaking you do XP will always be faster.
But give both versions a try if since you're new to flashing and if one bothers you then just keep flashing , I've had this ROM on my phone for moths and it doesn't even cross my mind to even want to try a new ROM or look for anything else. It's as perfect as it can get in fact lol.
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Umm, not with Sense its not.
There is a reason why they created 6.5. If you add Sense to 6.1, you are going to recmod a LOT of things and its just gonna make your phone so darn slow you will want to set it on fire.

Still a bit iffy about flashing it, although i did it beforen with a really old WM phone.
Just want to find a ROM that does what i want it to do.
On another note, my coworker has an Iphone, and when he's watching a movie with youtube, it doens't have to buffer every 25 sec...
Same provider tho, but that's prolly the difference between windows and android?
Maybe not the right place to ask, but is there a stable android for the TP2?