hi guys i'm new to this forum and i'm going to buy the x1 tomorrow hopefully, first i wanted a samsung jet but the x1 is way better because of WinMo, The keyboard and other things wich i really like.
there r few things that i'd like to know, and yes i did some reading first
1- is there any drawback that i might expect from the x1?
2- is it upgradeable to WinMo 6.5?
3- what is ROM development? is it changing the whole OS?
4- what r the mods or tweaks that i might consider to do first?
sry if i'm asking something that is answered somewhere else but i'm new to SE and WinMo so any help will be greatly appreciated
ahmedsalem89 said:
hi guys i'm new to this forum and i'm going to buy the x1 tomorrow hopefully, first i wanted a samsung jet but the x1 is way better because of WinMo, The keyboard and other things wich i really like.
there r few things that i'd like to know, and yes i did some reading first
1- is there any drawback that i might expect from the x1?
2- is it upgradeable to WinMo 6.5?
3- what is ROM development? is it changing the whole OS?
4- what r the mods or tweaks that i might consider to do first?
sry if i'm asking something that is answered somewhere else but i'm new to SE and WinMo so any help will be greatly appreciated
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1) Xperia is great in many ways, and you would be investing in something that can last for a long time. Right now, there are no serious draw back to it, at least Physical wise. Its been a long time since it's initial release date, so I would expect Ericsson to have tweaked the structure for its advantage. The best part about the xperia x1 is that its very compatible, and can withstand many different types of ROMS
2) In short, yes, but only through ROMS
3) ROMS are to Operating systems as Phones are to Computers; or its the operating system of the phone. Yes, the operating system gets changed when you flash a ROM to your device (Mobile 6.1 is boring anyways). There are a couple ways of doing this, which you shoudl read up on, but in general, you hardSPL your device from your computer using a program (which allows custom ROMS to be transformed to your device), and then use the computer to run a customRUU, in which the new custom ROM is then transferred to the device. There are other ways of doing this, but you can research that yourself.
4) I recommend either Phoenix 2 or valkyrie 6.0, which are custom ROMS with a ton of tweaks already preloaded in them. Go to the ROM threads for more info.
Thanx So Much For Ur reply,
so u r saying that i can have WinMo 6.5 without any mods or with mods?
is this process hard that i might kill the phone or something? if it is not easy like placing some files on the phone and enjoy, can i backup the whole thing so i can flash it back to the state which i bought it in? cause i'm new to the whole WinMo thing, also will it spoil the warranty? cause if so, i'll stick with mods on the normal WinMo 6.1 for a while.
ahmedsalem89 said:
Thanx So Much For Ur reply,
so u r saying that i can have WinMo 6.5 without any mods or with mods?
is this process hard that i might kill the phone or something? if it is not easy like placing some files on the phone and enjoy, can i backup the whole thing so i can flash it back to the state which i bought it in? cause i'm new to the whole WinMo thing, also will it spoil the warranty? cause if so, i'll stick with mods on the normal WinMo 6.1 for a while.
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Yep, you can either find a clean Win 6.5 ROM with nothing pre-loaded into it, or one with stuff pre-loaded into it. The process is easier than I first thought: just hardSPL your device, which an app does for you, and then do the same thing for ROMS, in which you dowload the ROm, hook up your computer to your phone, and launch the customRUU exe that comes with it. A lot of peopel might say its way more complicated, but this is generally it. Search hardSPL in forums.
nice, thanx for these useful info but i guess i'll stick with WinMo 6.1 for a while now, but i messed it up anyway tried to install mobidiv arabic support but it showed letters backwards so i uninstalled it and now i have no words in some certain places can u refer me to a working mobidiv multilangual support?
ahmedsalem89 said:
nice, thanx for these useful info but i guess i'll stick with WinMo 6.1 for a while now, but i messed it up anyway tried to install mobidiv arabic support but it showed letters backwards so i uninstalled it and now i have no words in some certain places can u refer me to a working mobidiv multilangual support?
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Did you check here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=525763
thanx so much for ur replay I installed the second one and it worked great, overall the phone is amazing I installed some programs like xperia tweak, and touchresponse, i have a lot of games with the phone but they r all demo i guess all the games out there must be paid for, I just have more questions,
1-what's a manila?
2-I remember I once used internet on a WinMo phone connected to a computer through USB, is it possible with the xperia? I.E. if i have a working internet connection on my computer, can i use internet on my xperia through this same connection via USB cable?
3-Flash support for opera?? I'm downloading Opera Mobile 10 and then try to play a youtube video and see what happens
4-Can u plz refer me to a good music player that has equilizer?
5-Despite the quality of the sound is very good but the volume is low, is there something to raise or boost the volume?
I know these r lots of Questions but i'll really appreciate if u answer
ahmedsalem89 said:
thanx so much for ur replay I installed the second one and it worked great, overall the phone is amazing I installed some programs like xperia tweak, and touchresponse, i have a lot of games with the phone but they r all demo i guess all the games out there must be paid for, I just have more questions,
1-what's a manila?
2-I remember I once used internet on a WinMo phone connected to a computer through USB, is it possible with the xperia? I.E. if i have a working internet connection on my computer, can i use internet on my xperia through this same connection via USB cable?
3-Flash support for opera?? I'm downloading Opera Mobile 10 and then try to play a youtube video and see what happens
4-Can u plz refer me to a good music player that has equilizer?
5-Despite the quality of the sound is very good but the volume is low, is there something to raise or boost the volume?
I know these r lots of Questions but i'll really appreciate if u answer
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1- manila is another name for Touch Flo 3D, which is HTC's proprietary GUI. Since it's extremely finger friendly and easy to use, a lot of cooks include it in their ROMs
2 - sync your phone using active sync, there is a check box that will let you use your desktop's internet on your X1 as long as your phone is connected via active sync (sorry for being vague, i don't have AS installed)
3 - most cooked ROMs already have flash support for internet browsers. for stock ROMs, there are cabs around that'll give you flash (again, sorry for being vague, i'd been using cooked ROMs for more than a year and all of them have flash)
4- Manila has the Audio Booster app has EQ settings. You can also try windows media player, nitrogen, coreplayer... there are tons of music apps for WinMo
5- Look for the "audiopara" cab somewhere in the forum
thanx so much for these useful info., so is manila a .cab that could be installed, cuz i'm downloading a 33 MB file that is supposed to install touchflo panel it's a .cab i think.
right now i'm looking for a good audio player, and a divx player, BTW can I play Rmvb video files on the xperia??
regarding the audiopara i searched but all i found was related to roms or certain roms: new roms, and others that i don't rembember the name but the prob. is that I don't know which one will work for my x1, can u help me?
Related
Which is the best WM5 Upgrade
Tuma 1.3
Tuma 1.4(Beta)
Ivan V4R3
I dont think it is Tuma 1.3 coz it loses out on BT and Wifi Perfomance
It cannot be Tuma 1.4 coz it has a bug whil opening Photos and Videos also other problems reported(like icons listed several times, Registry issues)
It cannot be Ivan V4R3 coz it lacks the basic feature of Device Lock(Although I havent checked the OS thruly this was the first fault i came to know abt) "Lt. Gen. Ivan how can u forget such a basic feature"
:idea: Cant someone combine all 3 and make something that can beat wat the OEM's are making :idea:
I feel ashamed to use any of these roms when all my friends use their OEM's that are much better than these
Come-on Guys lets show the OEM's that we are the best :Cheers:
Why would you need to device lock when there's already the default Lock All Except Power Button?
delltech
I dont think you understand how much work goes into creating a ROM with no support from M$. Nobody gets payed for what they do, so they must support themselfs in other ways (i.e going to work). If your that worried about a basic feature like device lock, create it/sort it and post a fix up here. This is after all what XDA-devlopers is all about. Not just leeching other peoples work and *****ing about it missing features...........
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It cannot be Ivan V4R3 coz it lacks the basic feature of Device Lock(Although I havent checked the OS thruly this was the first fault i came to know abt) "Lt. Gen. Ivan how can u forget such a basic feature"
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If you had actually read anything about wuther of the roms you would see that the TuMa versions are based on a ported rom from the Wizard device, hence the wizard's device lock + today screen plugin, however Ivans roms are based on a patched up leaked beta of a origional BA rom, which doesnt include the device lock function and AFAIK doesnt support it. Both ivan and I have tried including the device lock in his rom but it either fails to function or doesnt show, so no luck yet.
In regards to which rom to use may i suggest using Ivans with a 3rd party lock application (i personally use Mort's Mortsaver PE as it is a very powerful and free one, after you have spent 2 minutes configuring it)
@delltech
first read, try than talk
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Why would you need to device lock when there's already the default Lock All Except Power Button?
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Try playing a file in media player and putting the phone in ur pocket and u will realize why u need a device lock, and yeah by the way u cant use the power button when u r playing a file in media player or else u need to do a Soft Reset
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delltech
I dont think you understand how much work goes into creating a ROM with no support from M$. Nobody gets payed for what they do, so they must support themselfs in other ways (i.e going to work). If your that worried about a basic feature like device lock, create it/sort it and post a fix up here. This is after all what XDA-devlopers is all about. Not just leeching other peoples work and *****ing about it missing features...........
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Excuse me Sir, Just to bring it 2 ur notice, I am a manager with microsoft and i know how to work this around, perhaps i tried patching the OS with a device Lock but the OS fails to Recognize the Exe file, I m not trying to blame someone for missing out on something and i do understand that no one gets paid for it, infact i really appreciate all the efforts all the guys are putting in to help the community, My only concern was that if all the guys work together to make a rom that really has all the features that would be just great (instead it seems they are busy making their own roms by patching different versions of the OG Roms, and last....... I m not a leecher ... i m making my own rom that will consist of a lot more features than the one's listed and that too without any bug... does that sound good or change ur opinion abt me :?:
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delltech said:
It cannot be Ivan V4R3 coz it lacks the basic feature of Device Lock(Although I havent checked the OS thruly this was the first fault i came to know abt) "Lt. Gen. Ivan how can u forget such a basic feature"
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If you had actually read anything about wuther of the roms you would see that the TuMa versions are based on a ported rom from the Wizard device, hence the wizard's device lock + today screen plugin, however Ivans roms are based on a patched up leaked beta of a origional BA rom, which doesnt include the device lock function and AFAIK doesnt support it. Both ivan and I have tried including the device lock in his rom but it either fails to function or doesnt show, so no luck yet.
In regards to which rom to use may i suggest using Ivans with a 3rd party lock application (i personally use Mort's Mortsaver PE as it is a very powerful and free one, after you have spent 2 minutes configuring it)
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Sorry abt that dude, if only i had read abt it earlier
But anyways i really appreciate that u r putting in efforts to make things possible
I will surely try the other software u mentioned hope it works gr8 for me as well
sorry delltech
I am not to start a flame war here or anything of the sort, but sure... delltech you work as a manager for microsoft. I believe you, and you have changed my opinion about you...
stop *****ing
Hello Seniors,
I have a Tytn II with normal Rom version 3.29.707.0 WWE
Radio Version is 1.65.16.25
I am very new to this ROM cooking & flashing thing but it looks amazing & interesting to see how you make your devices look mesmerizing with all those features that you work upon. I read few instructions about how to install these cooked roms with RUU files..But due to lack of knowledge & experience, it doesn't seem to be working for me. I am looking forward to a Manila 3d or 2d rom's .cab file which comparatively is easier to install. Can someone please help me with a file or a link from where i can get a working Manila or any other Touch 3D rom's .cab file that i can use for my Kaiser..Your help will be highly appreciated.
I found one working .cab file for Manila 2d but it doesn't work in landscape mode.
here u go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465507 follow instructions after download and all should be fine, figured i do this b4 they hopped all over you telling you to search
looking for a quick fix will almost always get you nowhere. Try clicking on the link titled "For all the people that want a cool phone" in my Sig and read the post.
Thanks !!
Thank you all for your response as it really was helping. I appreciate your views about the journey. Not just getting the meal served on table rather also to know how it is being prepared in the kitchen & what's it all about ! Will definitely keep up my research & will try to make most of it. Please keep helping & suggesting as it really helps. I know it's not sumthing that you're here for. But again if u spare some time for queries that u feel r considerable it'd be great. And yes i've gone thru the link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465507 and tried to make it work on my Kaiser..But Touch-Flo 3d was not initiated even after flashing on screen again & again..I got the Second start up & Diamond Album work though..But didn't see Manila 3D working even i tried installing files in my device memory as specified serial order :
TF3D-QVGA
Opera
HTC AudioManager by Swtos
TF3D Standby
Touch Response
HTC-Diamond-Album
Manilla 3D landscape
Please help if anything needs to be done apart from these !!
Manila 2D does not work in Landscape. Also your ROM version is incorrect. You would know this if you read the whole post, and before flashing -G-'s ROM you need to flash Hard-SPL 3.29
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Hey I played with the files that were attached in the link mentioned in my previous rep..A little shuffle with them And i made Manila 3D work on my Kaiser..I installed HTC-CA-KAIS- 3D Drivers..Also instead of 3D Standby attached in the same link..I used Mortscript..QVGA Touch Power & TouchPower + TF3D Stanby cabs to get it working alongwith an advanced power menu thru the Power button..The only problem is that the phone has become really slow now. Also the Manila 3D's album feature is not detecting any albums neither looks like working properly. I will try to install Kaiser Tweaks as i read in a thread as my phone is freezing while a call comes !! Any suggestions are welcome..Cheers
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Hey I played with the files that were attached in the link mentioned in my previous rep..A little shuffle with them And i made Manila 3D work on my Kaiser..I installed HTC-CA-KAIS- 3D Drivers..Also instead of 3D Standby attached in the same link..I used Mortscript..QVGA Touch Power & TouchPower + TF3D Stanby cabs to get it working alongwith an advanced power menu thru the Power button..The only problem is that the phone has become really slow now. Also the Manila 3D's album feature is not detecting any albums neither looks like working properly. I will try to install Kaiser Tweaks as i read in a thread as my phone is freezing while a call comes !! Any suggestions are welcome..Cheers
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Glad you got everything working, but obviously when you download a lot of crap that wasn't meant for your phone onto your phone,to make it look cool, it uses a lot of resources. While TF3D looks really cool and everyone here has done a great job porting it to our Kaisers, I still think that M2D gives you a lot more " bang for your buck " with fewer problems and fewer needed work a rounds.
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Well i agree Denko that this feature is not meant for Kaisers by default. But by using certain means & making them work is what "Development" is all about. I understand there's a price for everything that we do. And after all d research & experiments that i did with my Kaiser..Its not the "Kewl" thing neither the 3D effect that is making me go crazy but its simpy the efforts & the result that i finally derived through them which again has inspired me that i can go ahead & experiment and maybe create new things too. And I can understand on thing for sure, that for a technology freak, There's no end to modifications & development as it's an on-going process.You've yourself been a part of same thing for a long time now i guess, But for me its sumthing i've stepped upon, So i'l take my time & maybe react too. Though you might find it too small to react & childish too, But datz d way it is. Thanks once again for your wise help & suggestions. Now next thing i'd wanna do to my Tilt is Flash a ROM in it..Maybe by next week. And that's sumthing i'm li'l scared of because i dnt wana cause harm to my device at d same time. And even after reading tutorial, M nt getting it worked as my phone gets disconnected from USB mode as soon as i start burning a ROM. Also i dnt really know how to get a HARD SPL 3.56 on my device. I tried that but it didn't work too. Is there some video tutorial that gives a sneek-peek into the action. Anyways i think m going too fast for that, And there's no hurry. So what are you working upon these days ?? And what do you do ?
Clarify & help please ???
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Manila 2D does not work in Landscape. Also your ROM version is incorrect. You would know this if you read the whole post, and before flashing -G-'s ROM you need to flash Hard-SPL 3.29
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Than'x for your reply. Though what do you mean my ROM version is incorrect ?? I bought this TyTN II GSM version from an HTC Store in august 2008. Still its ROM Version is not upto date ? Well if it isn't then what can i do to get it working. And please just dnt show me direction thru a finger, I might need a GPS as m really not fimiliar with your technical jargons, Be it while communicating with you all or in the thread that you refer people to go read to get their answers..I understand it to an extent..But not good enuff to get it working at one go. Plus i dnt wanna harm my device too
<~THANK YOU~>
fiyaburnz said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465507 follow instructions after download and all should be fine, figured i do this b4 they hopped all over you telling you to search
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Than'x buddy..It did work..Though made me work it out from noon till night..But after few shuffles in the files mentioned in your link + Some that i did research & found from other threads..Manilla 3D is finally working in my Kaiser with everything fixed though my device has become a li'l slow that the time when i was using Manila 2D..Anyways i'l use it for a few days & if feel its affecting the speed to an extent where its bothering me i'l remove it !! Anyways than'x for ur help though..Cheers
vicky_crispy said:
Than'x for your reply. Though what do you mean my ROM version is incorrect ?? I bought this TyTN II GSM version from an HTC Store in august 2008. Still its ROM Version is not upto date ? Well if it isn't then what can i do to get it working. And please just dnt show me direction thru a finger, I might need a GPS as m really not fimiliar with your technical jargons, Be it while communicating with you all or in the thread that you refer people to go read to get their answers..I understand it to an extent..But not good enuff to get it working at one go. Plus i dnt wanna harm my device too
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by your ROM version being incorrect i mean that you need -G-'s ROM. After you go through Hard-SPL just install TF3D. The HTC-CA drviers are cooked into his ROM and it makes TF3D a hell of a lot smoother and faster. So you don't need to install the drivers. Thats what was wrong in the first place is you didn't have the drivers which I see you installed in with a CAB but with them bring cooked in it makes it a lot better
How to get -G- Rom ???
kaiserII101 said:
by your ROM version being incorrect i mean that you need -G-'s ROM. After you go through Hard-SPL just install TF3D. The HTC-CA drviers are cooked into his ROM and it makes TF3D a hell of a lot smoother and faster. So you don't need to install the drivers. Thats what was wrong in the first place is you didn't have the drivers which I see you installed in with a CAB but with them bring cooked in it makes it a lot better
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Sir,
thank you for your suggestion. But as I've mentioned in my previous Replies, I am a rookie when it comes to Kaiser or ROM cooking & flashing. So i tried to flash some ROMS in my Kaiser but it failed. I mean my device is connected to my PC thru USB..And then i go thru those normal RUU file initiation screen too. But as it turns into 3 color screen & status shows "0%", It gets stuck right there & gets Disconnected from the USB connection !! And what about HARD SPL...How can i get it done to my Device..Specially with the configuration that i have on Kaiser. Because like i mentioned, I try to flash things through RUU..My phone gets disconnected frm USB ?? And wanted to resolve the query that DO our phones come with a HARD-SPL already ?? What is it actually & Hw can we check if its there on our device already or not ?? I tried by pressing both the "SOFTKEYS" at the same time..all that happened is that my phone screen got locked (Normal screen-lock)..I also tried pressing CAMERA & POWER buttons together for almost 30 seconds..Nothing happened Well these threads help me to an extent as i keep reading. But if there's some specific directions that i can get specific to my query. It might help..Or maybe if there's a Video-tutorial. Plus if you are getting what actually my problem is..I mean with the device..like if there are some specific files that i should use for it to get working..Please attach the links if you would. Because i did check the video of Touchflo 3D manila on Youtube & it was quick out there !! Also i installed some Kaiser tweaks (KaiserTweak-nikagl-20080613-1711) as i read in a thread installing tweaks make Kaiser speed up a lil bit when using Manila 3D..But the Touch-Incall-Screen-Tweal seems to give some trouble as the incoming call screen gets stuck..It did twice today morning. So i have un-installed those tweaks !! So if there's sumthing that you think might get my device a li'l boosted up along with Manila 3D..Please refer that too !! I'l try to flash a ROM once i receive your response about how & which version of HARD SPL will b fine for my Kaiser..And how can i get it on my device ??
Your reply will be awaited & appreciated.. Thanks in Advance
Flashing Your First Kaiser Rom (For Noobs)
click the link stylez posted, don't be embarrassed, I was there about 6 months ago
vicky_crispy said:
Than'x buddy..It did work..Though made me work it out from noon till night..But after few shuffles in the files mentioned in your link + Some that i did research & found from other threads..Manilla 3D is finally working in my Kaiser with everything fixed though my device has become a li'l slow that the time when i was using Manila 2D..Anyways i'l use it for a few days & if feel its affecting the speed to an extent where its bothering me i'l remove it !! Anyways than'x for ur help though..Cheers
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no prob i used it and it worked fine for me i just switched back to 2d about 2 days ago and im already thinking about going back to 3d
installing M3D really makes my Kaiser slow. i installed M2D instead and installed M3D skin i dont have any problem w/ it right now
yeah but buddy here is the thing. The skin pales compared to the actual thing . And you probably didn't flash -G-'s ROM I bet?
Flashed GK.10.Final Rom
kaiserII101 said:
yeah but buddy here is the thing. The skin pales compared to the actual thing . And you probably didn't flash -G-'s ROM I bet?
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Hey Senior..Than'x for all your support & guidance..I flashed Garmin's version 10 final rom on my Kaiser yesterday night..I had a li'l fear in my mind before i initiated HardSPL 3.29 & then Flashing GK.10.Final on my phone but all that happened very smooth & gave my device an all new look. Now what i am wondering is that how can i use Manila 3D or should i say 3D interface on my Kaiser. Or i must say you advice me what will look the best on my Kaiser. If you have any roms or suggestions upon what can i do post installing -G-'s rom on my kaiser..Or is it the complete package within itself..Please do advice me regarding this..I really would like to move on to the next level..Its really adventurous..Cheers to y'all !!
Regards,
Vicky
Everything you need for Manila3D should be in the ZIP file over at the TF3D thread. Be sure to read the Readme
SUCCESS !!!
kaiserII101 said:
Everything you need for Manila3D should be in the ZIP file over at the TF3D thread. Be sure to read the Readme
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Senior I used the TF3D files in the .rar file as you mentioned in the post yesterday night itself as the excitement was too high & it was too hard to stop..So i worked upon my Kaiser till the morning & uploaded TF3D Manila. To my wonder the Incall Tweak was not required this time as the phone didn't freeze on incoming call. Earlier it didn't use to display caller ID as it was left hidden begind Manila Interface..But not anymore. I also used some additional tabs like the Additional 3 tabs, Call Log, Calendar & Command manager tabs. I also installed S2U2 v 1.52 on my phone. And now TF3D Manila works on my Kaiser like the Nitrous in the car. Then i used Flash Format & formatted my 4Gig card as it got corrupted a li'l while back with the folders getting unaccessible with some strange signs & i was unable to format it using Pocket Mechanic. But finally everything is in place & working absolutely fine herre as i have installed some more programs using the other threads for Kaiser software..Will try & add some Pictures of Manila 3D running over Garmin's DK.10.Final ROM. Will cherish this ROM for sometime & then will try using something different & better on my Kaiser. You can advice what will be the next thing that i should do which will be fantastic for my Device !!
It would have never been possible without you guys who work hard on development part & bother to help rookies like us with queries too. Gr8 job
Im getting an X1 tommorow and i will do a lot of mods and stuff.
But what should i do first there is so much to do im confused on what i should do, what did you do first with your x1? If you could post a list of what you did when you got an X1that would be great
(p.s if you have time to post links to threads it will be much apreciated)
Configure it. Go through all settings available and set everything to your convenience. Then set up your e-mail addresses and favorites in Opera/IE. If using a custom ROM is an option for you, don't do too much until you've decided on a ROM and then flash that.
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Configure it. Go through all settings available and set everything to your convenience. Then set up your e-mail addresses and favorites in Opera/IE. If using a custom ROM is an option for you, don't do too much until you've decided on a ROM and then flash that.
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Why do i need a ROM? shouldnt i update it via sony ericsson update service, or am i getting confusedc
10123 said:
Why do i need a ROM? shouldnt i update it via sony ericsson update service, or am i getting confusedc
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Yes you should. But if you're buying a new one it should be up to date. Anyway, many users here build their custom ROMs optimized for speed or with many applications, more internal space because of less annoying features (No panels for example) and so on. Personally I am not using any of these. Other people here are crazy about them, though. Know that you don't get warranty if your phone has a custom ROM. So if ever there's a problem with your X1 you will have to be able to flash back to the original ROM otherwise you will not have warranty. Keep that in mind if you want to do it. I'm not telling you to.
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Yes you should. But if you're buying a new one it should be up to date. Anyway, many users here build their custom ROMs optimized for speed or with many applications, more internal space because of less annoying features (No panels for example) and so on. Personally I am not using any of these. Other people here are crazy about them, though. Know that you don't get warranty if your phone has a custom ROM. So if ever there's a problem with your X1 you will have to be able to flash back to the original ROM otherwise you will not have warranty. Keep that in mind if you want to do it. I'm not telling you to.
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KK thanks, don't think i will bother with roms.
You definately should...! I thought I wouldnt, but Im a flashaholic, touchflo is much better than xperia home screen, and you still get panels, as is titanium form winmo6.5! Definately worth flashing one with both, then going into settings, today, items tab and selecting either touchflo or windows default! The two are different. I would recommend Itje, Agent47 or EnergyRom if you prefer touchflo (although many have winmo6.5 only versions) or Gtrab for winmo6.5! Seriously so worth it! Hardspl first, and read all ofthe instructions carefully and you cant go wrong, then use the rom collection to flash back to what you had, then soft spl and send it back if you donmt like it or need a repair, no fuss! Twenty minutes work or so! They are just twimmed and improved versions of the original xperia interface. On all but one landscape is good, keyboar works etc etc etc!
Then check out rotastrains mods for touchflo if you go touchflo, or check out the winmo6.5 goodies page for some seriously cool ideas. Try gtrab's panel library for custom panels, beta and rare ones! It will make your xperia amazing!
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You definately should...! I thought I wouldnt, but Im a flashaholic, touchflo is much better than xperia home screen, and you still get panels, as is titanium form winmo6.5! Definately worth flashing one with both, then going into settings, today, items tab and selecting either touchflo or windows default! The two are different. I would recommend Itje, Agent47 or EnergyRom if you prefer touchflo (although many have winmo6.5 only versions) or Gtrab for winmo6.5! Seriously so worth it! Hardspl first, and read all ofthe instructions carefully and you cant go wrong, then use the rom collection to flash back to what you had, then soft spl and send it back if you donmt like it or need a repair, no fuss! Twenty minutes work or so! They are just twimmed and improved versions of the original xperia interface. On all but one landscape is good, keyboar works etc etc etc!
Then check out rotastrains mods for touchflo if you go touchflo, or check out the winmo6.5 goodies page for some seriously cool ideas. Try gtrab's panel library for custom panels, beta and rare ones! It will make your xperia amazing!
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Do i need roms to install panels (ie You tube)?? I want to have a go at creating my own panels.
1st thing I'd do it download and install the Audiopara CAB so you can at least hear the thing ring. (There are a few threads around here on it).
http://www.wotid.com/xperia/apps/Audiopara.cab
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Do i need roms to install panels (ie You tube)?? I want to have a go at creating my own panels.
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No! You don't need it 'cos panels are standard X1 feature!
As for me, I would say TouchFlo 3D is just a esthetic crap,
compared to SE's homescreens, but it's a matter of taste.
As for ROM's, as well as they make great things,
they also perform unexpected problems so consider that.
Usually things are under the cover and sometimes it's very hard to find
a solution.
I work on SE's ROM, no cooking,
and the device works really well.
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1st thing I'd do it download and install the Audiopara CAB so you can at least hear the thing ring. (There are a few threads around here on it).
http://www.wotid.com/xperia/apps/Audiopara.cab
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Depends on rings mate.
My phone screams as hell.
Hi,
I`m new to this forums , but I find it quite impressive.
First of all, Im here to ask for an advice, any help would be quite appreciated.
Im looking to buy new phone and my decision is either xperia x1 or nokia n97.
I believe everyone here will tell me that x1 is the way to go for its customisability , but I would like to say what are my needs and maybe it will be easier to help me with the decision.
Right now I have sony ericsson P910 , pretty old smartphone with symbian OS (7.0 ??) , and I managed to find some software for it which I use, and thats the exactly software I would like to continue to use on my new phone, and some new ones.
I intend to be online almost at all times , to administrate some sites, meaning need fast good browser, irc program, msn, remote desktop also, maybe some ftp client as well, and all of that to be active at all times.
Also some blacklisting call manager (maybe now every newer phone has it ?), pdf reader, office package, but thats not a priority.
I must say Im somewhat concerned about reported slowness of x1, but I see there are some custom roms that may be better, but reading these forums its seems to me they are like toys to try and delete if not good, and to tell u the truth I dont have so much time to do flashing of the phone always.
I also read that x1 has more ram memory and faster processor than n97, but then again maybe symbian doesn`t need so much resources ?
so priorities for me are fast system, reliable without much crashing and bugs, and to be able to run all of those software I need.
so here are the questions:
1. Symbian or winmob ( consider the software that I need , remote desktop for example, also speed and resources) ?
2. winmo 6.1 or winmo 6.5 for x1? which is faster in the cleanest form without additional software ?
3. Is it best to go for official sony firmware update R3 or to go for some custom lite ver. rom, if I want only the cleanest and basic rom ? Meaning the speed and reliability ? if some custom rom then which one ?
4. which custom full rom has been reported to be the fastest and with the least bugs ?
5. I must say I would like to use winmo6.5 only cause finger friendly capabilities. If I read correctly there is not and will never be winmo 6.5 officially from sony, so in that case I will have to use some custom rom , so I need suggestion on the fastest and least bugs 6.5 custom rom
And the last thing is the availability and the price:
I can get new x1 for ~320 Euros and that n97 used but in good condition for no less then 400-450 Euros .
Actually i hold that n97 is my hands and is very good and x1 I only saw at pictures.
And btw qwerty keyboard is very important for me so if anyone knows which one has better keyboard pls let me know.
Camera has not any importance to me.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated, Im sorry if some of my questions were already written before, but I wanted to present my situation and to get the best out of it, so once again sorry and your help is very much appreciated.
Cheers,
Srle
P.S. that n97 has version 10 and I read that ver 12 is the newest one, and Im not even sure how to upgrade to the latest one, is it also flashing the device or something other ?
w00t, as a self-proclaimed Symbian fanboy I can be very onjective about your question.
Xperia can do all those things ans can do them better and faster. N97 is the first (failed) attempt from Nokia to make a good touchscreen smartphone (and no xzzprezzzmuzzzik does not count). All users of the N97 are used as beta testers and to point out bugs and wrong design decisions. N97 is buggy, has worse hardware than the X1 and is uglier lol.
Now for the questions:
1 - WinMo is a pocket PC platform with PC-like experience in your pocket while Symbian is just a smartphone one.
2 - 6.1 is still performing better and is still more stable. Might change in the future.
3 - Official R3A for sure. More stable and reliable. Custom ROMs are goos for experimenting and for answering specific needs.
4 - My knowledge is not up to date, but I think "itje" makes pretty good ones.
5 - 6.1 will suit your better.
N97's keyboard is PATHETIC. X1's keyboard is second only to the Touch Pro 2's one.
Oh, by the way, you won't be able to install your programs on the N97. Symbian has no backwards compatibility, in other words, the newer versions of Symbian don't support the programs made for the older versions. You will have to buy/find those apps all over again.
Cheers .
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I believe everyone here will tell me that x1 is the way to go for its customisability.
I intend to be online almost at all times , to administrate some sites, meaning need fast good browser, irc program, msn, remote desktop also, maybe some ftp client as well, and all of that to be active at all times.
Also some blacklisting call manager (maybe now every newer phone has it ?), pdf reader, office package, but thats not a priority.
so priorities for me are fast system, reliable without much crashing and bugs, and to be able to run all of those software I need.
so here are the questions:
1. Symbian or winmob ( consider the software that I need , remote desktop for example, also speed and resources) ?
2. winmo 6.1 or winmo 6.5 for x1? which is faster in the cleanest form without additional software ?
3. Is it best to go for official sony firmware update R3 or to go for some custom lite ver. rom, if I want only the cleanest and basic rom ? Meaning the speed and reliability ? if some custom rom then which one ?
4. which custom full rom has been reported to be the fastest and with the least bugs ?
5. I must say I would like to use winmo6.5 only cause finger friendly capabilities. If I read correctly there is not and will never be winmo 6.5 officially from sony, so in that case I will have to use some custom rom , so I need suggestion on the fastest and least bugs 6.5 custom rom
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It's good that you are prepared you will get a biased reply to WM.
I am sure you will found WM softwares to fulfill all you needs. Here are my lists of currently using program on WM for your requirement.
Opera 9.5, built in MSN Live & remote desktop, pocket VNC, pocket putty, resco explorer (FTP), Magicall (best call blocker), Foxit PDF reader, SoftMaker office.
6.1 would be a better choice for you since 6.5 consumes more resources for eye candies. And WM has a physical limit of 32 concurrent processes so lite rom (I have one and many other chefs make lite rom too) would be better if you need many programs active all the time
if you go the winmo route and considering the x1, i might suggest the x2 then. or the tp2
c_legaspi said:
if you go the winmo route and considering the x1, i might suggest the x2 then. or the tp2
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I guess he wants to keep the cost as low as possible.
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I guess he wants to keep the cost as low as possible.
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indeed. its already thinked over and its x1 or n97 used, which I can get at this point.
But I think I`m leaning towards x1 more atm. Probably gonna buy it at monday when the store will have it.
hopefully it wont be so slow as ppl talks.
I just read that x1 has a problem with the cracks, so Im not so thrilled about it...actually Im not even sure if buying x1 is a good idea :S....
I also recommend you the X1. For WM 6.1 you will find all the software you need and there's even a lot of freeware out there.
What concerns the quality of the hardware I think we have to admit there are some issues with the X1 (which phone has not it's shortcomings) but for me the only thing that I encountered personally is the dissolving of the black painting from the battery cover. And that also moderately. So far I have not seen the famous cracks in the case but maybe I'm just lucky.
All in all I consider the X1 still among the best WM phones on the market. The screen is great, the keyboard very convenient to type, the overall performance is good (WM is not known to be the fastest os out there). A few day's ago my X1 was stolen :-( and I did not hesitate to get a new one (finally I benefit from one of the many assurances I have to pay for every year).
I know it's like always everybody's personal opinion and there will never be a "best phone" on the market. But for me the X1 alsmost perfectly fits my needs. And is far as I see it should also meet yours.
10 months with no cracks here + those cracks are beneath the cover and don't affect the device in any way. People overexaggerate their importance...
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so here are the questions:
1. Symbian or winmob ( consider the software that I need , remote desktop for example, also speed and resources) ?
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On Symbian exist SymRDP, this remote desktop software works extremely well on N97.
X1's keyboard is really, really awesome for the first few months. I really enjoyed typing on the X1 until disaster struck. X1 keyboard is very prone to dust and before you anticipate it, your buttons are registering double keys and they become not responsive.
I'm using Fingerkeyboard full time now and I miss the good old days where I can type a 1000 words article using my X1 keyboard.
Hi guys,
I just yesterday purchased x1 black and it looks and behave pretty awesome.
Bu I already encountered a few problems. I immediately started installing some programs and SPB mobile shell 3.5 and on top of that TouchFlo 3d HD which I dont like, and wanted to delete it. BUt when I go to remove programs It wont delete it, I think because when phone is booting , its already in its memory so it can`t be done that way.
In short how to delete TF3D from my phone?
Or is there some kind of master reset that will erase all the apps I installed ?
Don't even use that ROM? Use another - TF3D shouldn't be in the stock ROM. AT ALL.
In short - install an Xperia ROM without TF3D
I didnt messed with the roms, and I dont intend to just right now. I just installed TF3D .cab and it added itself to today screen.
I really dont want to flash rom just because of this if there is any other solution.
What about hard reset?
Will it erase all my apps and put it back to factory settings?
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I didnt messed with the roms, and I dont intend to just right now. I just installed TF3D .cab and it added itself to today screen.
I really dont want to flash rom just because of this if there is any other solution.
What about hard reset?
Will it erase all my apps and put it back to factory settings?
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Yes .
Thanks. I actually did manage to uninstall tf3d without hard reset, maybe this will help someone with the same problem I had.
http://www.xperiax1.net/forum/x1-problems-issues/702-remove-touchflo-3d.html
Guys i thought i would start a thread to discuss the possibilities of creating an android rom or the possibilty replacing winmo as the primary os.
i know the current build for x1 is buggy, however the x1 is an outdate device now, i own one only as a testing device for my winmo programming. therefore i cant see why we cant have fun with it...
anyone with thoughts, or references welcome. i have a bit of free time coming up so im looking to jump on the x1 - android bandwagon!
I think more important for now is create krenel that contains all hardware configuration (working WiFi, BT, Camera, GPS, turn off LCD, fast working etc. ) if it will be fulfilled it is possible to think about create android rom
radzix27 said:
I think more important for now is create krenel that contains all hardware configuration (working WiFi, BT, Camera, GPS, turn off LCD, fast working etc. ) if it will be fulfilled it is possible to think about create android rom
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although it is not a priority it is still interesting to look at...
for instance it would reduce the non helpful post on how to use/install
Reversedhex said:
although it is not a priority it is still interesting to look at...
for instance it would reduce the non helpful post on how to use/install
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You're absolutely right. But ... who would flash his phone with a rom, which can't use the speaker for ringtones and which drains the battery.
I agree with vdelf - as soon as we see a working kernel worth for daily use, we might look into the issue of flashing android rom.
Bluetooth, GPS and Camera still not working for many htc devices. However, sound, ringtone is of highest requests for X1
I am with _Sensible on this one (not the "outdated"-part ). Android is not ready for primary OS on the X1, but it is not that far away. Why not start to create a rom? IMHO that will take some time, too. And that way we do not have to wait for a rom when the kernel is ready
If speaker and screen issues will solve then may try to cook android rom
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You're absolutely right. But ... who would flash his phone with a rom, which can't use the speaker for ringtones and which drains the battery.
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I would....
but then again I do have two xperia's so it wont matter if one isn't working properly.
btw this would be a nice time to stop talking about why and start talking about how.
maybe the knowledge can be found in the tp2 forum again....?
thanks for all your thoughts guys. i realise a flashable rom isnt a priority but i was thinking along the lines of vdelf. if we start this development now it may tie in nicely with a functional kernel.
in terms of how to do it...
1. binary image written via a 'flasher' app etc etc.
2. I wonder if we can install an os via android-through-haret? like the install option from an ubuntu live cd?
like i said, i have some free time soon so will do some R+D.
I hope so for that Android ROM .
android as a rom. hmm lookin forward to it. cant wait
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android as a rom. hmm lookin forward to it. cant wait
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same here - im sick of winmo glitches and problems,been reading alot about this project and i hope that all the x1 hardware works on it.
I'm looking forward for rom too. But not because of WM glitches, but because android will extend life of xperia. WM6.5 is dying os. Most software from actual companies is either for Android or iPhone (and probably for WP7S soon), apps for WM6.5.x and older are becoming rare.
I would really like to see actual rom, but i think you should put priorities on power managemnet, brigthness and sound. I can live with haret until then
Anyone have experience using the fastboot bootloader / recovery options for android roms?
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I'm looking forward for rom too. But not because of WM glitches, but because android will extend life of xperia. WM6.5 is dying os. Most software from actual companies is either for Android or iPhone (and probably for WP7S soon), apps for WM6.5.x and older are becoming rare.
I would really like to see actual rom, but i think you should put priorities on power managemnet, brigthness and sound. I can live with haret until then
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Totally agree !
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Anyone have experience using the fastboot bootloader / recovery options for android roms?
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Im not sure but the key combo to trigger it is set in kernel and need a recovery image, if thats what you are looking for...
1. binary image written via a 'flasher' app etc etc.
2. I wonder if we can install an os via android-through-haret? like the install option from an ubuntu live cd?
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Cant the android os be cooked into a nbh, so an existing flasher or microsd method can be used?
oh yaaa man me to wud love an android rom it wud be awesome plz work on this hope to see a android rom soon man
@Reversedhex,
Yes, a ROM can be cooked and I don't see why the RUU utility couldnt be used either
I will have a play - I believe this has already been done on the HTC Vogue...
Tinboot is also a possibilty...
Ok,
Ive been looking into this, I reckon the best way to do is to jump on the back of the 'tinboot' bootlader developed on this forum. So far Its only been ported to the Kaiser....however with a bit of R&D it shouldnt be too hard to port to kovsky.
Please check it out
git://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/androidhtc/tinboot
Oh, I dont suppose anyone has a kovsky nand dump lying around? Or info on the tables?
Well, you know, it 'kinda' works. I've even made a video. But we need to fix panel initialisation (or it's more likely that i've simply messed something up). You can watch. After hanging on the SE logo, it makes two vibrations and the screen covers with strange pattern which means the kernel does start. Maybe i'll work on it later.
http://rapidshare.com/files/371867580/x1.avi.html