I was running one of the ENERGY ROMs on my TP2, so it's got a different SPL and all that. I then put it in the box for about 5 weeks. I took it out two days ago to install XDANDROID. I used XDANDROID for about an hour, until the TP2 started randomly shutting itsself off. I've tried flashing NRGZ28's ULTRA LITE ROM and the official T-Mobile USA 6.5 ROM for the TP2. It won't go past the boot loader a majority of the time. When it does, it goes on to act like it's flashing the RHODIMG.nbh on my MicroSD but almost instantly after it starts, it shuts off again. It doesn't always try to flash the .nbh, but when it does, it never finishes. It's the same story with a hard reset. I can't ever get it to turn on, and the only way it does turn on is to do a battery pull. If I'm lucky, it'll stay on for about 60 seconds and then shut off again. I'm really clueless as to what to do here and I'm hoping someone can help me.
The Bootloader reads as folows:
RUUNBH
RHOD210 32M SS-BC
SPL-0.85.OilNex
MicroP(LED) 0x0A
MicroP(KEY) 0x04
TURBO HW/TURBO SW
TP MFG DATA
[unreadable]
812,19...
217.855 Calibrated
The reason 1.5 of the lines is unreadable is because of the message over it: "Upgrade ROM code error. please try again."
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try flashing hard spl 1.01 it looks like you got an old version of the spl. read the sticky on flashing for newbies i belive it tells you how to do the hard spl if you are having difficulty by usb connection other than that i wouldnt know what to tell you i nver had that problem only bad flashes but those could be solved by reflashing another ROM
Sorry, i should have explained that better. I can't connect to the PC. It won't stay in bootloader mode so I can't flash it that way either. From what i understand, the only way i can flash anything to it right now is to get the xxxx.nbh file, rename it to RHODIMG.nbh and place it on the root of my SD. When I do that, though, it won't finish the flash. It just keeps going in a loop. about every 5 minutes it randomly turns on and tries to flash the RHODIMG.nbh if present. If it's not present, it just flashes the boot loader for >10 seconds and shuts off again.
Also, I'm not sure if this makes any difference, but I've had TWO computers recognize it as a new device, "Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM."
Make sure the battery has a good charge, nothing else springs to mind
PS. the qualcomm thing is what appears when it's flashing via USB
also maybe try formatting your SD card and put the stock ROM back on there, or try diff card
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Sorry, i should have explained that better. I can't connect to the PC. It won't stay in bootloader mode so I can't flash it that way either. From what i understand, the only way i can flash anything to it right now is to get the xxxx.nbh file, rename it to RHODIMG.nbh and place it on the root of my SD. When I do that, though, it won't finish the flash. It just keeps going in a loop. about every 5 minutes it randomly turns on and tries to flash the RHODIMG.nbh if present. If it's not present, it just flashes the boot loader for >10 seconds and shuts off again.
Also, I'm not sure if this makes any difference, but I've had TWO computers recognize it as a new device, "Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM."
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it sounds like you dont have your sd card formatted make sure its format to FAT32 go to your computer inserd sd card & reformatted (make sure its a micro sd & that its less than 2g) then transfer the ROM to the card already renamed to RHODIMG then inserd ur card on your phone & flash it. it should work. let us know what happens
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Make sure the battery has a good charge, nothing else springs to mind
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I wish I could. I have no means of checking the battery status. I've had it plugged in pretty much constantly for about the last two days.
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PS. the qualcomm thing is what appears when it's flashing via USB
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I figured that's what that was, I was just a little shocked that it said CDMA.
And I tried wiping the card and reflashing, but it did exactly the same thing.
See at the top of your bootloader readout, where it says RUUNBH? That means the RUU flag is set, and that needs to be unset before you can do other things. What you need to do is establish a connection with your device via MTTY. Follow the instructions here about how to do that. Once you get an MTTY connection established with the device (it may take awhile since MTTY is quirky sometimes), type
Code:
Set 16 0
You may need to manually soft reset afterward, but otherwise you should be in the clear
The TMO Stock ROMs can install via PC even if your phone has a faulty USB connection. The stock ROM installer will keep restarting the phone's USB connection automatically as needed if your phone can't appropriately flash in one straight attempt. You can get the newest stock ROM here. And definitely install HardSPL again after getting the phone up and running on the stock ROM.
You might also try MTTY.exe. When connected, run the command 'set 16 0' then 'task 8' then 'task 0'. If your phone doesn't automatically soft reset, then manually soft reset with the stylus.
will MTTY.exe work via parallels on a Mac? I haven't tried it yet, but I have limited access to a PC. also, I tried doing the HardSPL and the TMO rom via PC, but the phone just does the same thing. It will connect, but then the RUU tries to check the phone settings and the phone shuts off. this is the problem i am having. i just cant get it to say on long enough to do anything. I'll try the MTTY.exe through parallels and if it won't respond, I'll have to wait to try it on a PC. I'll let you know how that goes.
MTTY is quirky enough that it probably won't work through parallels, though there's no reason you shouldn't at least try and see if it works. You'll probably have to wait until you can get access to that PC. Best of luck
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MTTY is quirky enough that it probably won't work through parallels, though there's no reason you shouldn't at least try and see if it works. You'll probably have to wait until you can get access to that PC. Best of luck
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Thanks. I'll have to wait till i get back to the phone but i will let you know how it turns out.
also, in reading your sig, i see that i was using the same SPL that you are. have you had any problems with it?
I was also using the ENERGY LEO ROM [i now see that you are using it too.], which apparently was defective because the next day, the chef posted a new one because of "sleep of death." I read through the thread and didn't see anyone with the issues that i was having.
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Thanks. I'll have to wait till i get back to the phone but i will let you know how it turns out.
also, in reading your sig, i see that i was using the same SPL that you are. have you had any problems with it?
I was also using the ENERGY LEO ROM [i now see that you are using it too.], which apparently was defective because the next day, the chef posted a new one because of "sleep of death." I read through the thread and didn't see anyone with the issues that i was having.
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I haven't had any problems with this SPL, but then again, this is the only end-user version of HardSPL for GSM devices that's been made available. The SPL isn't even your problem, the only problem is that a bootloader flag is set which shouldn't be.
As for the EnergyROM sleep of death problem, that's not what you're suffering from. The sleep of death problem is when your device won't resume after being put into standby, meaning one must soft-reset their Rhodium and lose any unsaved data in open programs. It's a somewhat common problem among many HTC devices, from the old ones like the Kaiser to the newer ones like the Rhodium (though I don't think any Android device has this problem).
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try flashing hard spl 1.01 it looks like you got an old version of the spl.
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Eh ? Sorry, but I think you're confused. He's running 0.85 HardSPL, which is the one and only version for GSM Rhodiums.
I got to a PC and tried MTTY.exe
I can't seem to get it to connect. It just says "USB port can not open."
Any suggestions?
EDIT: I can get it to connect to a different version of MTTY.exe for a short time, but I can't type anything. All I get is a blinking cursor.
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I was running one of the ENERGY ROMs on my TP2, so it's got a different SPL and all that. I then put it in the box for about 5 weeks. I took it out two days ago to install XDANDROID. I used XDANDROID for about an hour, until the TP2 started randomly shutting itsself off. I've tried flashing NRGZ28's ULTRA LITE ROM and the official T-Mobile USA 6.5 ROM for the TP2. It won't go past the boot loader a majority of the time. When it does, it goes on to act like it's flashing the RHODIMG.nbh on my MicroSD but almost instantly after it starts, it shuts off again. It doesn't always try to flash the .nbh, but when it does, it never finishes. It's the same story with a hard reset. I can't ever get it to turn on, and the only way it does turn on is to do a battery pull. If I'm lucky, it'll stay on for about 60 seconds and then shut off again. I'm really clueless as to what to do here and I'm hoping someone can help me.
The Bootloader reads as folows:
RUUNBH
RHOD210 32M SS-BC
SPL-0.85.OilNex
MicroP(LED) 0x0A
MicroP(KEY) 0x04
TURBO HW/TURBO SW
TP MFG DATA
[unreadable]
812,19...
217.855 Calibrated
The reason 1.5 of the lines is unreadable is because of the message over it: "Upgrade ROM code error. please try again."
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I had this EXACT same problem a week ago. I fell asleep in the middle of flashing, the phone died when it finished. I woke up, turned on the phone, ENERGY leo was trying to run its install but kept dying. Smart me, I tried to reflash (by holding the vol down button and turning it on- not through usb) and it kept dying in the middle of trying to flash.
The problem is the battery. It can't charge when it's flashing and it can't hold a charge long enough to get past the flash.
I swapped batteries with my friend, restarted the flash and it worked fine.
I let my battery charge in my friends Sprint Hero
and voila, everything went on happily ever after.
tl;dr find a way to use a charged battery while flashing.
your phone's not bricked.
bfgarzilla9k said:
I had this EXACT same problem a week ago. I fell asleep in the middle of flashing, the phone died when it finished. I woke up, turned on the phone, ENERGY leo was trying to run its install but kept dying. Smart me, I tried to reflash (by holding the vol down button and turning it on- not through usb) and it kept dying in the middle of trying to flash.
The problem is the battery. It can't charge when it's flashing and it can't hold a charge long enough to get past the flash.
I swapped batteries with my friend, restarted the flash and it worked fine.
I let my battery charge in my friends Sprint Hero
and voila, everything went on happily ever after.
tl;dr find a way to use a charged battery while flashing.
your phone's not bricked.
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That's the best news i have heard so far. I don't know anyone with a TP2, but i do know someone with a Hero. I'm assuming the GSM hero uses the same battery as the CDMA Hero and the TP2. I'll look into it and let you know how it goes.
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That's the best news i have heard so far. I don't know anyone with a TP2, but i do know someone with a Hero. I'm assuming the GSM hero uses the same battery as the CDMA Hero and the TP2. I'll look into it and let you know how it goes.
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chin up, bud
I actually had a replacement sent to me.
That took a week. I fixed my phone the DAY AFTER i requested a replacement.
ohwell.
Brand new TP2 for ten dollars (shipping) I'm not really complaining.
&yes. The GSM Hero does use the same battery. I was just looking at my friends phone, decided to take a look at the battery and shat bricks when I saw it fit in my phone.
report back after you try your friends battery if it works or not!
bfgarzilla9k said:
chin up, bud
I actually had a replacement sent to me.
That took a week. I fixed my phone the DAY AFTER i requested a replacement.
ohwell.
Brand new TP2 for ten dollars (shipping) I'm not really complaining.
&yes. The GSM Hero does use the same battery. I was just looking at my friends phone, decided to take a look at the battery and shat bricks when I saw it fit in my phone.
report back after you try your friends battery if it works or not!
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thank you so much! that fixed everything. they weren't quite the same battery, the one from the HERO isn't quite as wide. it did work, though. I'm charging my tp2 now. not sure if the battery is shot or not. everytime i unplug it, it shuts off. i'll have to charge it for a while and see if that changes anything. again, thanks so much!
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Im really really hoping that someone can help me here
It started this morning around 10:00 or so - I took my phone out to check my messages, everything is working fine. I lock the phone and put it standby (power button) and *surprise*, it locks up and wont come out of standby
So i just re-set it (like im forced to do 20 times a day) and instead of booting it went straight to this red/green/blue screen. At the bottom of the screen it just says "Serial" but doesn't actually give a serial.
I instantly thought it was bricked, so i removed the battery and left it out for a few mins. Then i put the batt back in, and it booted normally. I used it throughout the day with no problems.
Fast forward a few hours and it does it again but now it wont boot at all (ive reset the thing like 100000 times in the last hour ive been working on it).
WTF is going on?? Im really really hoping that it isnt too screwed to fix
The last program I installed was the SPB pack, but that was over a month ago, and i use the phone every day, multiple times a day.
Oh, and to make things worse i was planning on relying on my TomTom tomorrow
and the text on that screen says:
Kais1*0
SPL-1.56.0000
CPLID-8
And at the bottom it just says "Serial" but none is given.
This blows
Have you recently tried to flash your phone? Have you ever? If you never have flashed it or attempted to use Olipof's app, then take it to the store and demand a new one.
Do you see "USB" instead of "Serial" if you connect your sync cable to your phone when in the bootloader?
If so, I would download the latest carrier-branded rom and flash it to your device. As long as the rom is designed for your device, then you do not need to do anything special prior to running the file from your PC.
grandpareza said:
Have you recently tried to flash your phone? Have you ever? If you never have flashed it or attempted to use Olipof's app, then take it to the store and demand a new one.
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I have never flashed it but i have spilled water near it (on the counter, the phone got wet but that was months ago and has no relation to this).
Can they check if it has been wet before?
When i plug it into my computer it says USB instead of serial. Should I try to re-flash with an updated rom and see if it fixes it or just take it in?
If you find me on MSN IM ([email protected]) we can run a diagnostic & see what the problem is.
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If you find me on MSN IM ([email protected]) we can run a diagnostic & see what the problem is.
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Thanks, ill give you a buzz.
I need to finish and email a few things first (shouldnt take more than 30mins).
Actually, ill just message you tomorrow or something.
Ive been really busy this week.
well did you get it fixed? what did you do?
Yikes, that happened to a friend of mine, but he flashed his and then had to reflash it. I think there is a place on the back under the battery that they use to tell if it's been wet. I would take it back, even if flashing it fixes it, you don't want it to happen again.
oh and it doesn't mean serial like a serial number, it is a serial connection.
I havent been able to get it fixed.
I think ill try to flash it this weekend and see if that fixes it
You'll only make problems worse if you reflash. I've analyzed the MTTY output you've sent me & you have a bad NAND storage blocks.
You need to follow the directions I sent to your email account via MSN IM.
DO NOT REFLASH UNTIL YOU'VE TAKEN CARE OF THE BAD BLOCKS!!!
this happened to me and someone else in XDA a while back. I saw his thread (link below) and then PMed him. I will copy / paste our PMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344402
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dockular said:
jackjohnson said:
dockular said:
Sup Jack, my Tilt is doing the
Kais1*0
spl-1.56.0000
cpld-8
Serial
problem that you had talked about. I read that huge thread, lots of great info in there. Although its unfortunate what happened to you, I'm really grateful of all the troubleshooting that you've done before me, so I know what works and what doesn't. Interesting to note that I have had the Tilt since the day it came out, and never cooked/ flashed my rom. I have been using the Tilt rom the whole time with no problems. Otherwise I'm a huge power user and have a ridiculous amt of software installed.
So after everything was all said and done, did you end up just replacing the device? Thanks again man
-Anthony
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Anthony,
Yea I went ahead and replaced it. No matter what I did to reflash the original bootloader, and flash the original rom, I always ended up with that same problem. Did you notice that if you can't get it out of the bootloader, but you connect it to your computer, and while it's connect, you soft reset, that it boots? Just curious. that's what happened to me. Either that or I would have to yank the sim and battery, then try.
My tilt was working fine for about a month with a flashed rom, up until I started installing gobs of software on it. Just a thought. If I were you, I would get the device replaced. Especially if you've never flashed a new rom on it - it definitely should not be doing that.
Scott
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My computer has been broken for a month or two. To answer your question - I haven't been connecting it to anything other than an AC outlet. Anything installed in the last couple months was installed OTA... I usually just obtain a CAB by downloading it directly onto my device.
Also, its weird but sometimes after I drain the batter with the RGB screen then recharge it (this process takes about a day) then hit the reset button, it will actually boot correctly. I am on the third time this has happened. It was bricked for a couple days, then after a combination of charging / depleting got it to boot into windows. Then it happened again, then again.
As long as I don't restart the phone it will stay in windows... If I restart then I lose it for a day or so. Interesting to note that since this has happened, phone calls connect, but I can't hear the other party and they can't hear me.
Also, I use the mini usb out to a 3.5mm stereo jack to stream shoutcast into my car stereo while driving. Last week (at the onset of my problem) the music was playing from the Tilt's speakerphone, and not going through the headphone jack as it normally would. A restart fixed this, but when it happened again a day or so later, the next restart is what got me to that boot screen for the first time.
One of us should post this in the forum...
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And just an update, I never sent back my phone or did anything as far as bad blocks go. I just let the battery drain and booted it right up and now it works perfect. I have since installed a few cooked rooms and radios and have had no issues since. This RGB screen was isolated to just those few days that we were talking about in the PMs.
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dockular said:
this happened to me and someone else in XDA a while back. I saw his thread (link below) and then PMed him. I will copy / paste our PMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344402
jackjohnson said:
And just an update, I never sent back my phone or did anything as far as bad blocks go. I just let the battery drain and booted it right up and now it works perfect. I have since installed a few cooked rooms and radios and have had no issues since. This RGB screen was isolated to just those few days that we were talking about in the PMs.
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Umm... GOOD FOR YOU!!!
I had him perform a diagnostic & it reported HE HAS A BAD BLOCK! So unless you're psychic or can be sure that every problem with Boot Loader is the same as the one you had, I suggest sticking to what you know.
BTW, search the CURRENT threads, in the KAISER forum, & you'll see I've helped a few dozen people with this & similar issues.
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dude i wasn't telling him to not follow your advice. was just letting him know my story. as a matter of fact, after reading your original post I have decided to check for bad blocks on my phone.
GSLEON3;2021681
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Umm... GOOD FOR YOU!!![/B]
I had him perform a diagnostic & it reported HE HAS A BAD BLOCK! So unless you're psychic or can be sure that every problem with Boot Loader is the same as the one you had, I suggest sticking to what you know.
BTW, search the CURRENT threads, in the KAISER forum, & you'll see I've helped a few dozen people with this & similar issues.
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Well, this has happened to one of our phones. Can you just post the fix here instead of requiring the email/IM rotuine?
Okay, ive seriously tried about every possible thing on here to get my stupid phone to work but heres my situation.
The ATT Tilt i have was working great up until a couple months ago. At one point it just shut off and then went straight to the RGB screen with
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.56.000
CPLD-8
and "serial" on the bottom
Some of you might say "download HardSPL " or whatever and flash from the computer. Problem is I dont have ANY of the software or hardware that came with the phone. All i have is the phone and its charger. Thats it.
Ive tried flashing through the SD card, and it goes to the loading screen. I've used Dutty's, HyperDragon, and the original ROM as a test base. Hyper and Dutty's i renamed the RUU.nbh to KAISIMG.nbh and it goes to "Loading" and thats it. Ive even tried naming it KAISDIAG.nbh and still nothing. Stays there for a while but doesnt go anywhere. I dont know how long exactly its supposed to take to load the damn thing but every post ive seen makes me think that its just "It loads, flashes and you're done"
The furthest i got was with the original ROM i downloaded that was shipped with the phone. Not sure whether or not the version was correct but then again i have no idea what vers. my phone is or where to find the rom that works with it. Anyways, i used the shipped rom, named it KAISIMG.nbh loaded it, said Checking, then says "Not Allow" with some numbers n **** on the top (0028002), then resets back to the boot screen.
No, its not named KAISIMG.nbh.nbh im sure of it.
Its not a kingston sd or none of that.
Ive formatted, used fat32. (however, i cant make it allocate to 512. windows gives it a "default" allocation size which is unknown to me and i cant change it)
Whats wrong with this stupid phone.
Help me please.
ps. Ive searched the archives frivolously and havent really found anything that completely answers my question.
I solved my own problem.
The file i downloaded called "Tilt_RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_sign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe"
Fixed it.
Well sorta.
Since it was an exe i knew i couldnt use it, so i opened the whole thing with winrar, removed the RUU file, renamed it to KAISIMG.nbh and it worked fine!
Well thanks for all the good info throughout the site though. a MAJOR help for someone who thought their $600 phone took a **** on them.
afrodude said:
I solved my own problem.
The file i downloaded called "Tilt_RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_sign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe"
Fixed it.
Well sorta.
Since it was an exe i knew i couldnt use it, so i opened the whole thing with winrar, removed the RUU file, renamed it to KAISIMG.nbh and it worked fine!
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Only problem is you still have your original 1.56 SPL but now have a WM 6.1 ROM so don't expect plain sailing until you properly update it fully (or have it reverted back to a full WM 6.0 installation).
afrodude said:
Some of you might say "download HardSPL " or whatever and flash from the computer. Problem is I dont have ANY of the software or hardware that came with the phone. All i have is the phone and its charger. Thats it.
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Heres the software you can download, its all you really need.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/activesync45.mspx
Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5 is a new software update release for Windows Mobile powered devices that provides a great synchronization experience with Windows-powered PCs and Microsoft Outlook.
Note: Microsoft ActiveSync works only with Windows XP SP3 or earlier. If you have Windows Vista, your synchronization settings will be managed through the Windows Mobile Device Center. Windows Mobile Device Center is available through the Windows Mobile Device Center page.
Supported features
ActiveSync acts as the gateway between your Microsoft Windows-powered PC and Windows Mobile powered device and allows you to synchronize Microsoft Outlook information, Microsoft Office documents, pictures, music, videos and applications to and from your device.
Flying Kiwi said:
Only problem is you still have your original 1.56 SPL but now have a WM 6.1 ROM so don't expect plain sailing until you properly update it fully (or have it reverted back to a full WM 6.0 installation).
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****.
Yeah. You're right.
My problem now is that once ive reset the tilt after the update, it goes right back into the RGB screen.
What gives now?
I just want the phone to work. Is there a WM6.0 i can download??
If so where?
Go here and just go ahead and upgrade your HardSPL you will be happier in the long run
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
F2504x4 said:
Go here and just go ahead and upgrade your HardSPL you will be happier in the long run
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
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Doesnt work for me. I DONT have hardSPL on my phone already, PLUS, i dont have the cables n things to flash it on my computer. I just want it to work normally!
Did you even read my post?
The screen STAYS on the tri-colored screen. Once i turn the phone on, it goes straight to it, and stays like that. I cant even power it off. I have to take the battery out. Soft Reset, just does that; Resets. Ive even managed to get a nbh. file that reflashes it to the original rom. Once prompted for the power button to reset, i press it and it goes right back into the boot screen.
I need a way to COMPLETELY redo my phone through SD.
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Doesnt work for me. I DONT have hardSPL on my phone already, PLUS, i dont have the cables n things to flash it on my computer. I just want it to work normally!
Did you even read my post?
The screen STAYS on the tri-colored screen. Once i turn the phone on, it goes straight to it, and stays like that. I cant even power it off. I have to take the battery out. Soft Reset, just does that; Resets. Ive even managed to get a nbh. file that reflashes it to the original rom. Once prompted for the power button to reset, i press it and it goes right back into the boot screen.
I need a way to COMPLETELY redo my phone through SD.
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Wow, all that yelling screams I DON'T REALLY WANT SOMEONE TO HELP ME.
Look at the wiki. You can fix it there. YOU'RE WELCOME.
afrodude said:
Doesnt work for me. I DONT have hardSPL on my phone already, PLUS, i dont have the cables n things to flash it on my computer. I just want it to work normally!
Did you even read my post?
The screen STAYS on the tri-colored screen. Once i turn the phone on, it goes straight to it, and stays like that. I cant even power it off. I have to take the battery out. Soft Reset, just does that; Resets. Ive even managed to get a nbh. file that reflashes it to the original rom. Once prompted for the power button to reset, i press it and it goes right back into the boot screen.
I need a way to COMPLETELY redo my phone through SD.
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Wow and you expect to get help form a community by this kind of response ?
Look you are the one who brought a phone that has developed problems and came here for help...
I cannot help that you do not have what you need, that said go buy the $10 dollar cable BTW it is a commonly used cable so you might all ready own one if YOU SEARCH for it ,
download the proper software that was told to you .
GO SEARCH if this is the kind of response that you are going to give to others that might try to help...
good luck with your phone troubles....
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PLUS, i dont have the cables n things to flash it on my computer.
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Uh, don't tell us you don't have a standard mini USB cable anywhere... you get one with pretty much any computer device you'd buy. You don't need anything more. As said, do an effort or find your way yourself.
So, I plugged my Kaiser (Tilt) into my computer the other day to charge it, and the next morning when I unplugged it, I noticed it was locked up. No biggie, I soft-reset it, and it came directly back to the bootloader (right before the bootloader shows is a white screen, that says "Loading image... No image found!", that flashes for a fraction of a second.
If I plug it into my computer at this point, Windows says the USB device has malfunctioned and it doesn't recognize it. I can't flash it ("connection error"), and it wouldn't hard reset.
Then it kinda came back to life, kinda. Suddenly it'll boot into WM. Windows still doesn't recognize it, but I used JumpSPL to get it into a bootloader, and tried to install a HardSPL on it so I could flash a new ROM (to this point it's been stock-only because it belongs to the company I work for). The HardSPL flash failed partway through, and then it was stuck in bootloader for real. At that point I tried flashing a stock ROM, and it kept failing at different points, never getting more than about halfway through.
Does anyone have any suggestions? Or, do you want to buy it? At this point it's mine (company doesn't want it back), so I'm willing to experiment freely with it. Right up until my Touch Pro 2 comes in and I lose interest
*** UPDATE ***
So after writing this, just for kicks, I decided to give re-flashing the original ROM one more shot (it's been off and untouched now for several days at this point) and the flash succeeded. We'll see where it goes from here
Good luck with your phone.. I hope all goes well.. If you find out what the problem was/is, let me know
Hey godefroi, im new to all of this, just bought a messed up tilt from my friend, and i want to know if you could givve me the link for the insturctions to refalsh my tilt
Just hit up AT&T's site (which redirects you to HTC's site) and download the ROM. The file you want is "_ATT Tilt_RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_sign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe", which was the latest update for the phone.
Seems it's not fixed. After playing around with it for a couple days, it's back into bootloader and stuck there. Taking out the battery and leaving it for a few hours brings it back for a while, but it seems there's no permanant fix. Next step will be flashing HardSPL and a custom ROM. I'll update when that happens.
awww dang, that sucks. thank you for tellin me. hopin your tilt comes out ok
Did you ever get this resolved?
Hey man did you ever get this fixed? I cant find anything on it.
I can get to a boot loader screen and it shows USB and when I plug it into my computer I hear the sound that it's recognized but my active sync wont connect.
This is what I posted earlier and a moderator killed the post because I didn't spend hours hunting for a solution first before posting. I don't think one exists but if there is I would be glad to know it. I have flashed this phone and my older HTC Wizard dozens of times with no issues so Im not a "noob"
Earlier today I was taking a picture and the screen kind of stuck so I has to soft reboot it.
It didn't come back up. I was left at the rainbow bootloader screen.
I tried holding the camera button down and rebooting but it didn't change anything.
I tried several different combo's of holding keys down and rebooting and it always came back to that bootloader screen.
So the next thing I did was to format my cd card and downloaded KaisDiagTest1.zip and then coppied the KAISDIAG.NBH image file from the zip on to the root of the sd card.
That worked fine and I was left at a screen saying SPL 1.00.OliNex.
Next thing I did is were I think I screwed up. I flashed it with _ATT Tilt_RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_1.62.502.0_radio_sign _22.45.88.07_1.27.14.09R2_Ship.exe which is the ROM from the HTC site and I think I was only supose to use a custom ROM and now after it finished flashing the ROM it rebooted and is stuck showing loading ... on the screen.
It goes past the boot loader and is stuck at loading...
Please advise if there is anything I can do.
Cheers,
Chris
godefroi said:
So, I plugged my Kaiser (Tilt) into my computer the other day to charge it, and the next morning when I unplugged it, I noticed it was locked up. No biggie, I soft-reset it, and it came directly back to the bootloader (right before the bootloader shows is a white screen, that says "Loading image... No image found!", that flashes for a fraction of a second.
If I plug it into my computer at this point, Windows says the USB device has malfunctioned and it doesn't recognize it. I can't flash it ("connection error"), and it wouldn't hard reset.
Then it kinda came back to life, kinda. Suddenly it'll boot into WM. Windows still doesn't recognize it, but I used JumpSPL to get it into a bootloader, and tried to install a HardSPL on it so I could flash a new ROM (to this point it's been stock-only because it belongs to the company I work for). The HardSPL flash failed partway through, and then it was stuck in bootloader for real. At that point I tried flashing a stock ROM, and it kept failing at different points, never getting more than about halfway through.
Does anyone have any suggestions? Or, do you want to buy it? At this point it's mine (company doesn't want it back), so I'm willing to experiment freely with it. Right up until my Touch Pro 2 comes in and I lose interest
*** UPDATE ***
So after writing this, just for kicks, I decided to give re-flashing the original ROM one more shot (it's been off and untouched now for several days at this point) and the flash succeeded. We'll see where it goes from here
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I never did. Every once in a while I can get it reflashed, but inevitably it stops working. Just like yours, I'll sfot reset it and it'll be stuck in bootloader.
Best bet is when it gets stuck on the bootloader or on the "white screen" as to put it. Do the following:
1) Unplug battery, memory car and simcard. Reinsert battery ONLY after 3 seconds (cards stay out!)
2) Hold BOTH softkeys down at the same time
3) Whilst holding softkeys, turn the unit on
4) You will be prompted to press "SEND" to reset all user data (you will lose everything on the internal storage. Press the Dial (green button) to reset.
5) When it's finished, you will be prompted to press "SEND" to reboot. Press send and it will boot into WM but might take slightly longer.
6) Realign your pointer and tada. It's up and running.
n.b. This often happens when the radio version of your phone isn't correct. If you notice, when you get stuck in the "white screen" the "gsm signal sight" is frashing green!
I've got to warn you again, this procedure WILL delete all of your internal user storage, hence why I recommend taking out all of the cards before proceeding.
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Best bet is when it gets stuck on the bootloader or on the "white screen" as to put it. Do the following:
1) Unplug battery, memory car and simcard. Reinsert battery ONLY after 3 seconds (cards stay out!)
2) Hold BOTH softkeys down at the same time
3) Whilst holding softkeys, turn the unit on
4) You will be prompted to press "SEND" to reset all user data (you will lose everything on the internal storage. Press the Dial (green button) to reset.
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Nope. Stuck in bootloader is stuck in bootloader. Like, stuck. No, really, it's stuck. Hard-resetting doesn't get it out.
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n.b. This often happens when the radio version of your phone isn't correct. If you notice, when you get stuck in the "white screen" the "gsm signal sight" is frashing green!
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There's no white screen, just bootloader rainbow. Also, there's no chance that I flashed the wrong radio, because this phone has never been flashed with anything but the official ROM. It's never even had a HardSPL flashed on it.
hmmm...now that you mention it has never had a hardSPL, maybe that could be the next step?
i understand that some people may want to keep a "stock" configuration in case waranty needs to be claimed or for any other valid reasons...but if the phone is out of waranty, theres little to lose.
only reason i'm suggesting it is because cmonex has a hardSPL that aims to fix EXACTLY this problem, among others (if i understand your problem and cmonex's fix correctly):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420683
also, this thread links to a page in the wiki about your problem (or something along the same lines):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=423486
finally, a collection of hardSPL versions can be found in this "roll up" thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498320
i guess you may have already gone through the above mentioned links but if not, they may open up more avenues for troubleshooting or even a permanent resolution.
Ok, so I have encountered something NONE of us EVER want to encounter. My phone has died. It will NOT boot up on battery power and is now cycling in the tri-color screen over and over again. It does this when plugged into USB port and wall outlet. I have the HTC Euro stock ROM on the SD card in the phone, trying to get it to reflash. It gets to the screen : "loading" and "checking" ....but then boots down again and cycles all over again.
I flashed the NRG 10/11 Photon ROM. I have the first HRDSPL from Olinex. My phone is the Euro version, unlocked, unbranded. I use TMobile in the US. .
Please, there has GOT to be someone out there that can help me. You guys are really sharp!! Please ....I need my phone!
I cannot even do a hard reset either. I push the power, send and end button all at the same time. I get no response.
What are my options here? Thanks in advance.
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Ok, so I have encountered something NONE of us EVER want to encounter. My phone has died. It will NOT boot up on battery power and is now cycling in the tri-color screen over and over again. It does this when plugged into USB port and wall outlet. I have the HTC Euro stock ROM on the SD card in the phone, trying to get it to reflash. It gets to the screen : "loading" and "checking" ....but then boots down again and cycles all over again.
I flashed the NRG 10/11 Photon ROM. I have the first HRDSPL from Olinex. My phone is the Euro version, unlocked, unbranded. I use TMobile in the US.
Please, there has GOT to be someone out there that can help me. You guys are really sharp!! Please ....I need my phone!
I cannot even do a hard reset either. I push the power, send and end button all at the same time. I get no response.
What are my options here? Thanks in advance.
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1: So if when you pull out your battery it goes off. And on reinsert, when you try to turn on or hardreset ie: hold the TALK/SEND, END and POWER buttons until you see this message on the screen.
"This operation will delete all your personal data, and reset all settings to manufacturer default. Press VolUp to restore manufacturer default, or press other keys to cancel."
At that point you release the buttons and press Volume up to perform.
It doesnt do anything?
2: As soon you do the AC adapter in or USB power, it starts cycling on his own? If not, try to hardreset then.
3: If you wait like 30 minutes, with cycling on USB on PC, can it hardreset out hisself? Ive readed another guy who had issues and somehow it fixed itself.
cabranscom said:
Ok, so I have encountered something NONE of us EVER want to encounter. My phone has died. It will NOT boot up on battery power and is now cycling in the tri-color screen over and over again. It does this when plugged into USB port and wall outlet. I have the HTC Euro stock ROM on the SD card in the phone, trying to get it to reflash. It gets to the screen : "loading" and "checking" ....but then boots down again and cycles all over again.
I flashed the NRG 10/11 Photon ROM. I have the first HRDSPL from Olinex. My phone is the Euro version, unlocked, unbranded. I use TMobile in the US.
Please, there has GOT to be someone out there that can help me. You guys are really sharp!! Please ....I need my phone!
I cannot even do a hard reset either. I push the power, send and end button all at the same time. I get no response.
What are my options here? Thanks in advance.
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sorry to hear that, have you tried taking the battery out for few minutes & re-insert it in then connect your phone to PC to see if it let you re-flash again?
good luck m8
People are reporting the same thing after doing slide to reboot with NRG's 10/11 Photon ROM... Go check that topic, you are not alone.
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People are reporting the same thing after doing slide to reboot with NRG's 10/11 Photon ROM... Go check that topic, you are not alone.
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He is one of those who reported that Really hope somebody van explain what can go wrong after a softreset.
pnxsinned said:
1: So if when you pull out your battery it goes off. And on reinsert, when you try to turn on or hardreset ie: hold the TALK/SEND, END and POWER buttons until you see this message on the screen.
"This operation will delete all your personal data, and reset all settings to manufacturer default. Press VolUp to restore manufacturer default, or press other keys to cancel."
At that point you release the buttons and press Volume up to perform.
It doesnt do anything? I can never get to that point. It does nothing. I see nothing on the screen. It just keeps cycling.
2: As soon you do the AC adapter in or USB power, it starts cycling on his own? If not, try to hardreset then. Again, I cannot hard reset.
3: If you wait like 30 minutes, with cycling on USB on PC, can it hardreset out hisself? Ive readed another guy who had issues and somehow it fixed itself.
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I waited all night long for it to do that. No luck.
Now I get to the point where I see where it recognizes my .nbh file and has a splash screen. BUT......it will not go any further past that now. I press the power button to continue, but it just cycles again and the whole process starts over. I see a reallllllllllllly quick sliver of the update bar, but it disappears fast b/c of the recycling process.
Please dont give up on me. Thanks.
Loco5150 said:
People are reporting the same thing after doing slide to reboot with NRG's 10/11 Photon ROM... Go check that topic, you are not alone.
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pnxsinned said:
He is one of those who reported that Really hope somebody van explain what can go wrong after a softreset.
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um, yeah, that would be me in that disasterous situation.
I saw in another thread that you have tried removing your SIM card with no success. Have you tried without the SD card as well?
Also, does pressing the hardware reset button under the battery cover do anything?
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I saw in another thread that you have tried removing your SIM card with no success. Have you tried without the SD card as well?
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I do not have the SIM card in there. I never have flashed with a SIM card in there. Always read to take that out when you do that.
The SD has to be in there b/c it is the only thing that has a shot of getting the ROM to the phone. Active Sync wont connect b/c phone keeps powering on/off with its cycling issue. So the SD card must be present with the .nbh file on it. I am just in hopes that it will read it somehow. I am sooooo tired of pressing the power button for it to continue, only to have it turn right back off.
ps, reset button does nothing either.
ugh.
Aaah sorry, didnt remeber who was talking about it... There were few cases like that if I remeber correctly...
Ive been here since TyTN, does it make 4yrs or something? I have never heard anything like this.. Because the phone goes to the 3 color screen mode, Im pretty sure someone with skills will come up with a solution, but it might take time though...
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Aaah sorry, didnt remeber who was talking about it... There were few cases like that if I remeber correctly...
Ive been here since TyTN, does it make 4yrs or something? I have never heard anything like this.. Because the phone goes to the 3 color screen mode, Im pretty sure someone with skills will come up with a solution, but it might take time though...
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So the 3 color screen mode. Exactly what is its purpose and why does it keep cycling over and over and over?
Its the bootloader, you should PM Olinex...
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The SD has to be in there b/c it is the only thing that has a shot of getting the ROM to the phone. Active Sync wont connect b/c phone keeps powering on/off with its cycling issue. So the SD card must be present with the .nbh file on it. I am just in hopes that it will read it somehow. I am sooooo tired of pressing the power button for it to continue, only to have it turn right back off.
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Certainly, but I was curious to find out if taking the SD card out had any effect on the cycling or your ability to hard reset.
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Certainly, but I was curious to find out if taking the SD card out had any effect on the cycling or your ability to hard reset.
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I wish.... It just cycles...over and over and over. No matter if the SD card is there, thrown across the room, or crushed in my hand. lol
I always flash with SIM and memory card (as I use UC almost everytime) and never had any problems with any device.
PM the board guru's about this and you will learn more in a single message than you will from this topic in a week.
Last post maybe came out little harsh. I only meant that your problem sounds so serious, that you should contact the gurus before you do something that could even make the matter worse...
Loco5150 said:
Last post maybe came out little harsh. I only meant that your problem sounds so serious, that you should contact the gurus before you do something that could even make the matter worse...
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Hey, it's ok. I didnt take it as harsh. I have contacted cmonex. I am in hopes she can help me out. I need to put an APB out on ALL GURUS!!
Actually, that is why I posted here.
I've noticed during the flashing process it doesn't take power from USB. What is the status of the battery? It occured to me that it might be power cycling because it's going to a part of the process that only takes power from battery and there isn't enough to do what it wants to do. (+50% ?)
Just a thought ... good luck dude I hope you get it sorted.
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I've noticed during the flashing process it doesn't take power from USB. What is the status of the battery? It occured to me that it might be power cycling because it's going to a part of the process that only takes power from battery and there isn't enough to do what it wants to do. (+50% ?)
Just a thought ... good luck dude I hope you get it sorted.
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Yes, I thought of that as well. But I had it plugged in all night...but I have no idea if it charged b/c I cant see the screen that gives the battery's status. ?? So, I dont know how to get around this part of it. I KNOW for a fact that my battery was low when the phone died. I dont know how to get it charged back up to do this type of diagnostic test.....??
Maybe it's not getting a proper charge if all it's doing is looping ... I figured you wouldn't be able to get battery status after I posted haha ... But it is interesting you said the battery was low when this all happened.
Do you know anyone near you that can lend you a fully charged battery? Does it boot up immediately if you take SD card out, put battery back in and plug in USB power? If you can't get it to where the phone is off and charging with orange light then a spare battery could be worth a try.
Don't worry dude I'm sure cmonex or olipro will have far more useful advice but no harm trying in the meantime
Hi All,
While on a business trip last week, my Tilt 2 (at the time, running the April 14 Energy ROM), my phone--for lack of a better word--crashed on me.
Everything had been working fine, I was sitting there with my phone connected to my laptop via a USB cable, and out of the blue, for no apparent reason, my phone re-booted, and never came back up. It would get to the splash screen, start loading the OS, reboot mid-stream, and get stuck in a loop. Weirder still, if I pulled the battery, let the phone sit, then put the battery back in, hitting the power button did nothing--even with the phone plugged in to power. On top of that, even if the phone was off, after a few minutes, it would power itself back on randomly, and get stuck in the re-boot loop. Very weird.
So, when I got home, before heading to the AT&T store and asking for a replacement, I thought I'd try to restore the phone myself.
At first, I pulled the battery, then stuck it back in, and sat there holding the volume down button, waiting to put the phone into bootloader mode. That worked, but even in bootloader mode, it would randomly re-boot. So, I started the process again, and immediately plugged the phone into my computer while in bootloader mode and ran the Task 29 tool. That completed properly.
At this point, I popped in another battery I had laying around and just let the phone charge for a few hours. Then, for the heck of it, I re-ran the HardSPL tool. Re-Flashed to the .91 radio (it was already on the phone), and then flashed to the latest Energy ROM.
Since then, my phone has been better than ever. Seems faster, battery life is better (Went three days without having to charge it), no dropped calls, and no weirdness with the latest ROM (that I've found so far).
Does it pay to REALLY start fresh from time to time, and re-flash everything on the phone?
Thanks for any input.
I have no idea, but hopefully the WinMo experts will see this and have an idea, so here's a bump for you. Most of my computer expertise revolves around Unix, Linux, and a bit of Windows, not so much these phones.
I do know that task 29 is awesome, though. It seems like DBAN for your phone...
DBAN=Darik's Boot and Nuke. Look it up.
I don't know what happened with your phone, sounds like something broke in the area of booting.
I don't think you should need to re-flash HardSPL radios just for the sake of it, but I'd strongly recommend task29 every time you flash a new ROM.
bricked my TP2
My TP2 seems to have a similar problem which I haven't been able to fix it just yet. The bootloader reboot loop is too short to succesfully run task 29 and flashing it using the microSD gets stuck around 40%
during bootloader mode there's an unreadable errormessage since it's on the same line as some of the usual information.
any thoughts/suggestions would be very welcome since i can't afford to send it to the factory.
cheers.