Old Fool Needs Help Again - Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just did a clear storage function to try a clean out some information I didn't want on the phone but now, I can't for the life of me figure out how to get the Touch Flo3D to work again. What am I doing wrong? Went to settings, set HTC_black(where it was before and working) . Just get the basic start screen.

Mmmm...
Hi. HTC_Black is a theme, not TF3D or HTC Sense as it's now called (Manila 2.5)
Go to 'Start', 'Settings', 'Today', 'Items' tab at bottom, then select HTC Sense or TF3D (depending on your OS)

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Turn TouchFlo 3D on and off?!

I think the TouchFlo 3D is fantastic for "showing off" your Touch Diamond, but it's a bit gimmicky, and slightly cumbersome, so I'd like to be able to turn it on and off when it suits me.
Out of the box, to do this you need to go into the homescreen settings and select TouchFlo 3D, or, deselect it, and reselect all your usual homescreen plugins - a bit of a pain.
However, I've realised that browsing to the "Manilla exe" in the Windows directory turns on the TouchFlo without affecting your homescreen plugins. If you then kill the manilla process using a a Task Manager which shows processes, you're straight back to your normal homescreen. I've made a shortcut in the Start Menu so I can toggle between the two relatively quickly and easily.
But, I'm looking for some clever person out there to make a simple app which toggles between TouchFlo 3D and normal homescreens at the press of a button. I'm sure it can't be that difficult (for someone who knows what they're doing)??!! It just needs to launch the Manilla exe and then kill it when you want to turn it off.
Anyone fancy having a go?
Cheers
Simon.
It is possible to toggle between spb mobile 2 screens and touchflo 3d though.
Kill Manila.exe
Has anybody come up with an automated(one click) way of killing the Manila.exe process ?
Mortscript
Create a script with Mortscript to check for the presence of manila.exe.
If not present, start it.
If present, kill it.
Create a shortcut to the script in \Windows\Start Menu\Programs
Assign this shortcut to button 1.
Simon D said:
I think the TouchFlo 3D is fantastic for "showing off" your Touch Diamond, but it's a bit gimmicky, and slightly cumbersome, so I'd like to be able to turn it on and off when it suits me.
Out of the box, to do this you need to go into the homescreen settings and select TouchFlo 3D, or, deselect it, and reselect all your usual homescreen plugins - a bit of a pain.
However, I've realised that browsing to the "Manilla exe" in the Windows directory turns on the TouchFlo without affecting your homescreen plugins. If you then kill the manilla process using a a Task Manager which shows processes, you're straight back to your normal homescreen. I've made a shortcut in the Start Menu so I can toggle between the two relatively quickly and easily.
But, I'm looking for some clever person out there to make a simple app which toggles between TouchFlo 3D and normal homescreens at the press of a button. I'm sure it can't be that difficult (for someone who knows what they're doing)??!! It just needs to launch the Manilla exe and then kill it when you want to turn it off.
Anyone fancy having a go?
Cheers
Simon.
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thought thats called SecondToday?
ToggleManila.mscr
I have the same problem, that I want to turn on TouchFlo 3D, but still want to keep my "Classic" Today Screen intact.
Although I tried SecondToday, however it cannot display the internal plugins such as Tasks, Calendar and Date
Thanks to wensing's suggestion, I created this simple script. If you want to run the script, please follow the instructions below.
a) The first thing you need to do is to disable the TouchFLO 3D from Today Panel Plugins, then activate your favourite Today Plugins (except TF3D)
b) Install MortScript
c) Put the "ToggleManila.mscr" in any folder you prefer.
d) Create a shortcut to this script, name it (eg. ToggleToday.lnk) and put the shortcut inside the folder "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs".
e) Go to Settings->Buttons, and simply assign "Button 1(Hold)" to point to the ToggleToday shortcut.
Of course you are free to experiment with other settings or assign it any other buttons.
Another thing to note is, because TF3D will "take over" the Home hardware button, I have no choice but to kill it, so that the classic Today Screen can be activated after TF3D is killed. However this also means the next time you activate TF3D, it will take some time to load. So please be patient and wait for the TF3D while it is loading.
Anyway, this is my first attempt at using MortScript, just a simple piece of work, but hope that I can bring some joy to my fellow Diamond users.
Hope that it works for you guys
Thanks Wensing
The mortscript suggestion works perfectly.
I am running SwiftBL 3.0, and when I launch the script, TouchFLO3d restarts automatically. Does this script work only on roms that have uninstallable manila?
Or do I have to edit some registry settings so that manila doesn't restart automatically?
when I try and assign a button there are no buttons to select in my menu, any ideas why?
Uncheck TF3D
oldhouse said:
I am running SwiftBL 3.0, and when I launch the script, TouchFLO3d restarts automatically. Does this script work only on roms that have uninstallable manila?
Or do I have to edit some registry settings so that manila doesn't restart automatically?
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Have u tried to uncheck TF3D from Settings->Today->Items before launching the mortscript?
podman2004 said:
when I try and assign a button there are no buttons to select in my menu, any ideas why?
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So far, I am using Settings->Buttons and I assign "ToggleManila" to Button1(Hold). By default this may have been assigned to other programs such as Voice Commander etc. Just replace it with "ToggleManila".
I am not familiar with other more advance programs that allow u to assign it to the other hard buttons, so I am sorry I can't advice u on that.
By the way, u might have to create a shortcut that points to the actual file where u place the ToggleManila.mscr, and then u put this shortcut (I simply name it ToggleManila.lnk) inside Windows->Start Menu->Programs before u can select "ToggleManila".
See if it works.
This works great, thanks everyone involved!
I find it better than 2nd Today because the device is much quicker without manila running.
Davey101 said:
This works great, thanks everyone involved!
I find it better than 2nd Today because the device is much quicker without manila running.
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i second this statement. tried it and works great for me on the touch pro
Have you tried the latest ROMS??
Manila works pretty smooth and yu device will be blazing fast. I will be using it always..
charly_mx said:
Have you tried the latest ROMS??
Manila works pretty smooth and yu device will be blazing fast. I will be using it always..
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I'm using Dutty's Diamond v1.8 (full) and used to have speed problems when launching applications, particularly after using the audio player.
TF3D is alright but it doesn't actually do anything that special. The weather screen is pretty but most of the other screens are useless, especially the horribly limited 'favourite contacts'. Now that I've got used to the standard windows today screen I prefer it.
I'm looking forward to trying out Schap's TouchXperience though!
that's work very nice
now we must wait for TFL3D tasks and who knows how this thing will be
this works great with the manila2D with the touch. One question though. The script kills the manila2D very quickly, but it does take several seconds for it to run it; any way of speeding that up?
thanks for the script
work very well
thanks for the script. great work
As Leekg has mentioned you can use TF3D and SPB Shell together.
I have left TF3D as it is and installed the SPB Shell as well. On the home screen have reprogrammed one of the Soft keys to SPB Menu -- touching that takes me to the Shell. Closing it brings me back to TF3D!
I do have a question though -- is there any way of changing the default msic player to windows media?

Default to Manila & Small Clock on Startup?

I'm using Pocketmax PhoneAlarm and have the Touch Flo option enabled so it gives me the option like some of the other utilities out there to use the softkey to switch between Touch Flo Today and WM Today screens.
Every night Sprite backup soft resets my phone. I don't need to use the WM Today screen very often. I prefer to leave the phone on the Touch Flo Today screen with the small clock. I'm getting tired of having to keep switching to Manila and then minimizing the clock.
Is there a way to get the phone to boot and load Manila with the small clock?
Use a registry editor to create the key "Home.LastClockView" in HKCU/Software/HTC/Manila and set it to "1"
And/or place a shortcut to manila.exe in the startup folder?
Cheers,
Cacti

[THE] Purple Nightmare [Updated 3/3/09]

My first theme/dialer aka "Purple Nightmare"
spent quite a while on this, and this was my first attempt at editing manila, playing with xml and trying out mode9 (mode9 = killer!)
i would like to say thanks to Herg, Nisse, dHarvey, Xbmod, Showaco, Elvelynn, Mobilematt and a few others for helping me with this.
I attempted this as i noticed a lack of Purple orientated themes on the site... plus i think purple looks good with black!
Anywho, the home page is actually intended for the clock to be dragged back, think it looks more proffesional that way, plus ive "cleaned up" the home tab. you will still get notifications of missed calls and voicemails though.
Also, it contains a different background from the rest of the tabs, the hompage wallpaper will be added aswell. It also contains a different dialer...
To install:
Turn off TF3D
Put the Htc Purple.tsk folder in windows
Install .Cab file
*Soft reset*
Go to Start/Settings/Today and select the Htc Purple theme, and reactivate TF3D, choose the wallpaper through TF3D
as always, this release is not perfect. so if anybody finds any bugs, please let me know.
and there you go, hope you like it...
All files can be found here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=b3c5d7f23b484fdad0d290dca69ceb5ce04e75f6e8ebb871
Manoli20
Looks nice!
Things to do:
Lanscape dialer:
try and find a solution to get rid of the white box around the "end call" button
View attachment 163111
submit this to CRC for deviceUpdate deployment
Request it to be called something like:
TF3d Theme\Purple Nightmare
TF3d TSK\Purple Nightmare
Nice work.
Looks good!
thanks to 12aon, i made a matching landscape for the theme. But due to certain conflicts of manila files, where previously edited files are being replaced by files containing different data, it is causing a few "visual" problems in regards to the theme. This is a pretty easy fix, but i just cant find the time seeing as i have so much work at uni this month. Also, the port from TP2 is nearly ready, so im not gonna stress myself out to fix this .
the cab below was intended as an "add-on" but has now become a file in which i hope others will edit to their benefit. if anybody does edit the files to coincide with one and other, please post them back here.
INSTALLING THIS "WILL" CAUSE PROBLEMS, SO DONT MOAN AT ME AFTER... IM WARNING YOU!!
Finally, im preparing a similar theme for the new port, so bring on "Purple Nightmare 2" for the New TF3D!!!
file can be found here:http://www.mediafire.com/file/ymkyh2ngmn2/Landscape_Purple.cab
_Manoli20_
Love purple! Thanks!
Hmm.. well, that didn't work... Hard reset time.
Installed as directed. After the (automatic) soft reset after the cab install, and re-enabling TF3D, all screens selected with the slider were blank (just the background image with title, no content/buttons), and after the 2nd or 3rd screen, the slider would freeze, and eventually error out with an exception in shell32.dll. Softkeys at the bottom were "OK" and "Help", rather than what they were previously set to.
Tried changing back to a stock theme, but that had no effect on the TF3D issues. After stopping and re-starting TF3D, the same behavior would occur.
Tried an uninstall, didn't really seeem to do much. Same colors, same behavior. As a last resort before hard reset, tried a "Reset to default" from the theme selector in Diamond TF3D Config. This reset all the graphics to stock AT&T (rather than the HTC version I had to begin with), but with the same freeze of the slider after the 2nd or 3rd selection from the slider bar.
Running on AT&T stock ROM, with tyguy's 'no bloatware' TF3D install from this thread. I had made a bunch of tweaks with Advanced Config Tool, Diamond TF3D Config, and Diamond Tweak. The main one that I'm wondering about that might have had something to do with it was changing the order of the icons in the slider.
Getting the fresh TF3D install going now, this time I'm going to try installing the theme before all the other config tools, and see how that goes.
Absolutely beautiful theme btw, I really hope I can get it up and running.
Got it reinstalled on a fresh copy of TF3D.
Home screen is still pretty much non-functional. When it starts up, it's blank with OK and Help softkeys at the bottom (Screenshot #1). After selecting any other page, then going back to home, the softkeys from the previously selected page remain at the bottom of the home screen (Screenshot #2, after coming back to home from the settings screen).
Pressing either of the softkeys on the home screen, regardless of what they happen to be labeled at the time, will cause TF3D to freeze after the next use of the slider. TF3D can be restarted without a soft reset, and it will work again, until one of those softkeys gets pressed.
I've also noticed that the background is a little bit different than in the screenshots you provided with the original post, and setting the jpg file as wallpaper from the settings screen doesn't seem to have any effect at all.
All screens except for home seem to be fully functional.
Update:
Hard reset and just let it install the AT&T Manila and bloatware, then installed the theme. Works fine. Must be something it doesn't like about the HTC Manila.
Before another hard reset to go back to the non-bloatware install, I did try a quick install of Glass Clock, which did not change the clock at all from the standard AT&T clock. *shrug*
Kaptain Kaos said:
Got it reinstalled on a fresh copy of TF3D.
Home screen is still pretty much non-functional. When it starts up, it's blank with OK and Help softkeys at the bottom (Screenshot #1). After selecting any other page, then going back to home, the softkeys from the previously selected page remain at the bottom of the home screen (Screenshot #2, after coming back to home from the settings screen).
Pressing either of the softkeys on the home screen, regardless of what they happen to be labeled at the time, will cause TF3D to freeze after the next use of the slider. TF3D can be restarted without a soft reset, and it will work again, until one of those softkeys gets pressed.
I've also noticed that the background is a little bit different than in the screenshots you provided with the original post, and setting the jpg file as wallpaper from the settings screen doesn't seem to have any effect at all.
All screens except for home seem to be fully functional.
Update:
Hard reset and just let it install the AT&T Manila and bloatware, then installed the theme. Works fine. Must be something it doesn't like about the HTC Manila.
Before another hard reset to go back to the non-bloatware install, I did try a quick install of Glass Clock, which did not change the clock at all from the standard AT&T clock. *shrug*
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i made this on the stock HTC Rom.... so i can honestly say, that i aint got a clue as to why it aint working for you. the only reason maybe is because of the rom difference maybe?!?!
but other that that i dont know why it wouldnt work...
Im sorry for the hard resets but if u do get it to work let me know man
good luck
manoli20 said:
Im sorry for the hard resets but if u do get it to work let me know man
good luck
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Ah, no worries there. The beauty of having a fresh new phone with nothing on it: It's the ideal time to play, mess with stuff, and hard-reset to my heart's content!
Anyway, after some more monkeying around with this theme and Brian's blue/red & chrome themes, all of them seem to work fine with the AT&T Manila, but wierd things happen when I use them with the Manila from tyguy's package. I don't know if it's something to do with a difference in the flipclock-style Manila vs. the AT&T clock, or what. I'm brand new to the Raphael and TF3D (just picked it up after my Kaiser met an untimely demise by getting left on the trunk of the car.. d'oh!), so I'll have to do some more searching around. Prolly end up flashing to a cooked rom anyway, so the whole point will be moot. 8)
I'm down to one last thing that's not quite working with this theme: On the Settings tab, it doesn't come up with the white background like in your screenshot, it's just nearly black text on the mostly black background, very hard to see. Any ideas on that one?
Kaptain Kaos said:
I'm brand new to the Raphael and TF3D (just picked it up after my Kaiser met an untimely demise by getting left on the trunk of the car.. d'oh!),
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lol
I'm down to one last thing that's not quite working with this theme: On the Settings tab, it doesn't come up with the white background like in your screenshot, it's just nearly black text on the mostly black background, very hard to see. Any ideas on that one
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settings tab? it should be black... do you mean communications????
Yeah, I must have been thinking of the sounds or comms screenshots... silly me.
Kaptain Kaos said:
Yeah, I must have been thinking of the sounds or comms screenshots... silly me.
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i dont use any of the extra calendar, call history or comm. tabs... but im guessing maybe your problem could be fixed by copying over one of the manils files from post #49
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2749043
let me know how it goes if you try it
Little help installing...
I tried installing as described in the topic-start, but when I try to install the _manoli20_purple night.cab I immediatly get an error.
The landscape_purple.cab works just fine. (looks very nice.)
Any ideas on what might be going wrong.
My Rom: 5.05.404.1 dutch HTC original
radio: 1.11.25.01
BlaBla_13 said:
I tried installing as described in the topic-start, but when I try to install the _manoli20_purple night.cab I immediatly get an error.
The landscape_purple.cab works just fine. (looks very nice.)
Any ideas on what might be going wrong.
My Rom: 5.05.404.1 dutch HTC original
radio: 1.11.25.01
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what is the specific error you get?
Immediatly after tapping the manoli20_purplenight.cab I get:
"Installatie van Manoli20_purplenight.cab is mislukt."
..
"Installation of Manoli20_purplenight.cab has failed."
Not mucht to hang on to?
BlaBla_13 said:
Immediatly after tapping the manoli20_purplenight.cab I get:
"Installatie van Manoli20_purplenight.cab is mislukt."
..
"Installation of Manoli20_purplenight.cab has failed."
Not mucht to hang on to?
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Direct error because of corrupt installer. Downloaded again and it works. Now to figure out how to get the landscape working as well.
BlaBla_13 said:
Direct error because of corrupt installer. Downloaded again and it works. Now to figure out how to get the landscape working as well.
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good.... the thing with the landscape, it has files which clash with the theme.... if your new to this you might wanna stay clear of it. if your up for the challange then look into the diting of manila files, its not that hard. good luck.
The landscape 'cab' installs just fine, but while trying all sorts of other stuff I can't get the normal theme applied back on.
I can't get it uninstalled, can't get it re-installed.
Any tips on how to uninstall an unwilling app/theme short of resetting my whole phone.
Can I just go into the registry and delete the key, or are there files I have to delete also for that to work?
(fideled around with the manila customizer, and that gives nice results as wel, but nothing in landscape.)

"Old" startmenu.

I recently bought TD2, and is by no means a big fan of the new startmenu. How is it possible to replace it with the "old" one ?
I've been searching the forum, since I've heard of a little program that can fix this issue, but without luck .
Thanks in advance !
The new start menu comes as part of Touch Flo 3D.....If you distable TF3D in settings\personal\today\items, you get the old menu system.
I'm amazed that anyone would prefer the old WM one.
HandySpanner said:
I'm amazed that anyone would prefer the old WM one.
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There are two great lacks in the new menu :
1. too few items available in the 'icons' start page, and no kind of sub-folders or program groups.
then
2. if you go in the full list because your program is not in the icons page, the list can be long and fastidious.
Hope it will be corrected in next version and be available for D2, or windows 6.5 titanium/CHome will replace TF3D
Try TF3D2 Tweak in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502102
Thank you all, for your replies .
If you just want to change the start menu but leave Manila turned on, just change the following in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu\Enable ManilaStartMenu =dword:00000000
After a restart you have the old start menu
Is it possiple too keep both ways?
I mean when you press the start menu on the top of the screen to have the old start menu and when you press the windows hard key to have the new one?
I think this would be more usefull for many people who like the new menu but want some features of the old one!
kitarolivier said:
There are two great lacks in the new menu :
1. too few items available in the 'icons' start page, and no kind of sub-folders or program groups.
2. if you go in the full list because your program is not in the icons page, the list can be long and fastidious.
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Ah right, I see. I've not hit that issue, I guess I just don't use that many programs!
One question: how can I enable the old style like in WM 6.1.
I use 6.5 without Manilla (UDK R1.)
It's annoying to select start/settings/connections if you want to set more the 1 thing...bluetooth, WIFI etc....also for programs.
Or how can I customize the start menu in 6.5 ...order, content...
another way
This would keep the new start menu when you tap on "start" and make pop-up a replica similar whith the old one when you tap on windows or whatever icon you have on the upper left corner of the screen near the text "start". I didn't make this just downloaded from somewhere.
cliviu said:
This would keep the new start menu when you tap on "start" and make pop-up a replica similar whith the old one when you tap on windows or whatever icon you have on the upper left corner of the screen near the text "start". I didn't make this just downloaded from somewhere.
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Doesn't seem to work on my Diamond2. (Does nothing)
I was wondering if someone could do a buttom like the settings buttom in the new start menu that could open the old programs menu.
I think this shouldn't be so difficult, since there is a similar buttom for the settings.
Welcome here Liviu. (Bine ai venit pe aici, marfa site-u pt HTC-uri)
I try it Quick Menu, it's like Windows PC START menu and it's hard to use with a finger
I speak about the old menu from WM6.1 not Pc windows...
Ksara it's works on TD2 I try it and work well but it's not what I want.
You are right Pauln, it's not finger friendly but hei! that stylus is there so ...
Anyway for me it does the job so here is a pic for those who want an alternative. The icon "Quick menu" you will find also in Programs.
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I'm amazed that anyone would prefer the old WM one.
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I'm one of them. I disabled touchflo and installed spb pocket plus: I've got everything in sight, with no need to flip over strange desktops and icons!
I found these registry entries somewhere else and i thing these are the key to make a shortcut in manila programs folder to the old Programs folder Just like there is for the settings folder (number 3)
"Remove the locked program tab items
Code:
HKLM/Software/HTC/Manila/ProgramLauncher/0/IsReadOnly
HKLM/Software/HTC/Manila/ProgramLauncher/1/IsReadOnly
HKLM/Software/HTC/Manila/ProgramLauncher/2/IsReadOnly
HKLM/Software/HTC/Manila/ProgramLauncher/3/IsReadOnly
Change this value from 1 to a 0 and you can then edit their shortcuts."
Please someone who is familiar with this , create a shortcut.
gogan said:
I'm one of them. I disabled touchflo and installed spb pocket plus: I've got everything in sight, with no need to flip over strange desktops and icons!
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But what is the way to do it, because I don't want to install some software that almost does the same. I want it the old way.
Please help.

htc sence as panel?

I have the rom: touch x 10.9 (great rom!)
but i want to have htc sense as a panel. so i dont have to uncheck and check the htc sense today plugin.
i tried the touch flo as panel installer but that didnt work (hard reset)
regards ben
there is no way. because it attached with the rom. it can be a panel when you use the original rom and then install the tl3d cab + tl3d panel
hummm... what happens when you press the Xpanel button??
i think he means seperate from the orginal today panel, altercode!
and there is no longer a away i'm afraid, it was possible with much older versions of manilla, but not any more
You can use panels, but Sense keeps trundling along in the background, using up resources. The other problem is sometimes, e.g. when coming out of standby, sense will pop up in front of your panel and will never go away.
If you use quickmenu, you can use that toggle between sense and some other panels, such as spb mobile shell
Or you can use wktask which allows you to "minimize" sense. It does not work well with 6.5.x though, and is not to everyone's taste.
Or you can try tfdetacher, tho I have not tried that for a while.
I expect that it IS possible to make a panel that can launch sense, though I have no idea how. and plus sense does take a while to launch, which would become more evident if it were being continually launched and killed.
There is guy on pccgeeks that made app which switch sense to mobile shell with tap of shortcut. Im sure there is way to make something like that for sense and panels too.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1406960&postcount=18

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