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Helmi CF2 by baniaczek vs R4 - xplode - Wich is the best Rom now?

Comparison between Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v1.4.CF2 by baniaczek and BA WM5 AKU3.5 R4 - xplode.
I would want to upgrade my Blue Angel. which of the two it is the best one? I would want to have stability with Bluetooth and WiFi to use with GPS e surf in the web. You excuse me for my bad English…

Don't compare them now. Wait two days - wait for bug fix release.
Today - use xplode.

try both
for u to find out.

Now I see another upgrade: R4 Lazy Release

xplode R5 seems on the way too!

Hmm Banizczek, I knew bug_fix release coming in 2 days, I can't wait to see what else is fixed/enhanced.
Your hard work is VERY appreciated.
Hopefully the BA_Goodies will be included in it (psShutXP, Softkey, RunningPrograms, TaskMgr) + Mail_Fix + SmartDial.
baniaczek said:
Don't compare them now. Wait two days - wait for bug fix release.
Today - use xplode.
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BEST ROM?
Yeah, i agree with them..
you better try both for u to find out..
the 2 of them hav nice roms..
just kip on trying newer ROMS, theres no harm in flashing ur BA
with these ROMS..
in my case, for now am using Xplode r4, newer version on the way even..
rizortiz

rizortiz said:
Yeah, i agree with them..
you better try both for u to find out..
the 2 of them hav nice roms..
just kip on trying newer ROMS, theres no harm in flashing ur BA
with these ROMS..
in my case, for now am using Xplode r4, newer version on the way even..
rizortiz
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You have convinced to me, you could say the procedure to me of installation of the Rom Xplode R4? I have read that I must set up something on the telephone operator

there is nor R5 on the way, i am still seeking ways to include .NET CF 2 SP2 inside but have no space left, it will be easy for baniaczek to include it because he already has .NET CF 2 SP1
and i think that there is no best WM5 rom, because they all are hacked to work on BA, they are not created specially for the device, thats why there are some known bugs which can not be fixed
afterall baniaczek edition of helmi's rom looks really promissing, so wait for the next release
about my roms, the lazy release does not need setting operator, so the upgrade procedure will be exactly the same as in any other wm5 rom
also i will post a kitchen to my R4 rom, but now i am configuring it, it is based on the newest Bepe's rom kitchen for Hermes (but of course it will be for BA) and it is a lot more easyer to build with it, you can choose which components you want and customize your roms better. For example you can create rom without office apps, or media player, or without any software which is included by default. But i am still working on it.

xplode said:
there is nor R5 on the way, i am still seeking ways to include .NET CF 2 SP2 inside but have no space left, it will be easy for baniaczek to include it because he already has .NET CF 2 SP1
and i think that there is no best WM5 rom, because they all are hacked to work on BA, they are not created specially for the device, thats why there are some known bugs which can not be fixed
afterall baniaczek edition of helmi's rom looks really promissing, so wait for the next release
about my roms, the lazy release does not need setting operator, so the upgrade procedure will be exactly the same as in any other wm5 rom
also i will post a kitchen to my R4 rom, but now i am configuring it, it is based on the newest Bepe's rom kitchen for Hermes (but of course it will be for BA) and it is a lot more easyer to build with it, you can choose which components you want and customize your roms better. For example you can create rom without office apps, or media player, or without any software which is included by default. But i am still working on it.
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What about selective UPXing of dlls and exes? Yeah, some UPXed stuff might render it not working, it is a tedious process of UPXing stuff one by one, putting it on the ROM and then, if it works, flash a rom with them.
Have you UPXed everything possible in the R4 ROM?

xplode said:
there is nor R5 on the way, i am still seeking ways to include .NET CF 2 SP2 inside but have no space left,
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Will there be a R4 version without camera support or MMS support?
xplode said:
also i will post a kitchen to my R4 rom, but now i am configuring it, it is based on the newest Bepe's rom kitchen for Hermes (but of course it will be for BA) and it is a lot more easyer to build with it, you can choose which components you want and customize your roms better. For example you can create rom without office apps, or media player, or without any software which is included by default. But i am still working on it.
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could I user this kitchen to get rid of camera support?

A lot of things are already UPXed (in helmi's ROM, xplode's ROM - probably too).
And there is still not enough room. In my ROM, for example - about 20 free sector, 512 byte each. UPX is not revolution itself - IMGFS files are compressed gives some compression itself, so UPXing small files gives no impact results.
net.cf dll's are very large, but cann't be UPXed - the are signed, so UPX skips signed files.
It is very hard to save even 1MB of ROM. For that reason I've decide to remove some things (MSN, transcriber) from ROM.

OKAY
viscocesco said:
You have convinced to me, you could say the procedure to me of installation of the Rom Xplode R4? I have read that I must set up something on the telephone operator
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its on XPLODEs thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287223
i believe u dnt have to set that operator anymore..
Upgrade procedure:
1.Extract the rar somwhere in your computer
2.Open the folder in which the files were extracted
3.Copy EXTROM folder to your SD card (you may want to edit it but ... i wont include this into the instructions)
4.Put your device in Bootloader mode and place it to cradle
5.Start MAupgradeUT_NOID.exe and follow the onscreen procedure
6.Perform WM5 Hard Reset
btw, xplode said, his new ROM not yet ready.. hehe..
semper fidelis,
rizortiz

rizortiz said:
just kip on trying newer ROMS, theres no harm in flashing ur BA
with these ROMS..
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Some would dissagree with you there! It can be extremely dangerous if you don't know what you are doing.

baniaczek said:
A lot of things are already UPXed (in helmi's ROM, xplode's ROM - probably too).
And there is still not enough room. In my ROM, for example - about 20 free sector, 512 byte each. UPX is not revolution itself - IMGFS files are compressed gives some compression itself, so UPXing small files gives no impact results.
net.cf dll's are very large, but cann't be UPXed - the are signed, so UPX skips signed files.
It is very hard to save even 1MB of ROM. For that reason I've decide to remove some things (MSN, transcriber) from ROM.
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Personally, I have no use for powerpoint mobile. Actually I have never read a single Office document in my BA. all 3 apps could go EXTROM IMO. but maybe Word and excel are used by some, maybe they need to stay. Powerpoint mobile is the biggest of teh 3 exes I believe, at least this one could go EXTROM.
gdiplus.dll is not upxed, I copied it to my windows machine and it compresed to 36.78 original size. Sure, the space savings is not as big on IMGFS, but still...
some time ago I tried compressing some files, I believe gwes.exe is compressible too, and it's big. maybe you could check if it's already upxed...

Brazilian Joe said:
Personally, I have no use for powerpoint mobile. Actually I have never read a single Office document in my BA. all 3 apps could go EXTROM IMO. but maybe Word and excel are used by some, maybe they need to stay. Powerpoint mobile is the biggest of teh 3 exes I believe, at least this one could go EXTROM.
gdiplus.dll is not upxed, I copied it to my windows machine and it compresed to 36.78 original size. Sure, the space savings is not as big on IMGFS, but still...
some time ago I tried compressing some files, I believe gwes.exe is compressible too, and it's big. maybe you could check if it's already upxed...
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I agree with BJ. All these 3 apps can go to EXTROM, eventhough I still use word and excel rarely though.
What about calculator? I believe most people would install a better version calculator. i know calculator program doesnt eat up a lot of ram, but it is still something...
And, just out of curiosity, what are the most used input method? I always use Block Recognizer. i believe people would only use 1 fav, however maybe Keyboard has to be left out as it is - just in case your friend/partner want to borrow ur phone for a quick sms or something, and they dont know how to use block/letter recognizer. Maybe it is a good idea to have block recognizer & letter recognizer to be excluded as EXTROM, just like what Baniaczek has done with Transcriber (This is very neat since it improves the time to change input method).
Btw, any news on bluetooth random wakeup issue?
Cheers

joseph.sapri said:
I agree with BJ. All these 3 apps can go to EXTROM, eventhough I still use word and excel rarely though.
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Probably I will remove PowerPoint from ROM. (nearest release - will contain only fixes, next one - I'm tring to import office from WM6)
joseph.sapri said:
What about calculator? I believe most people would install a better version calculator. i know calculator program doesnt eat up a lot of ram, but it is still something...
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It's only 18kB (UPXed version). Nothing special.
joseph.sapri said:
And, just out of curiosity, what are the most used input method? I always use Block Recognizer. i believe people would only use 1 fav, however maybe Keyboard has to be left out as it is - just in case your friend/partner want to borrow ur phone for a quick sms or something, and they dont know how to use block/letter recognizer. Maybe it is a good idea to have block recognizer & letter recognizer to be excluded as EXTROM, just like what Baniaczek has done with Transcriber (This is very neat since it improves the time to change input method).
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Keyboard, block recognizer, letter recognizer - all of them are bundled in single dll
joseph.sapri said:
Btw, any news on bluetooth random wakeup issue?Cheers
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Probably nobody is working on it.

Cool baniaczek, will wait for your next release to try.

ei harding...
hardingt0110 said:
Some would dissagree with you there! It can be extremely dangerous if you don't know what you are doing.
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u knw what, u better not flash ur ROM if u dnt know what ur doin!!
well, i believe these ROMs that we have here are harmless..

rizortiz said:
u knw what, u better not flash ur ROM if u dnt know what ur doin!!
well, i believe these ROMs that we have here are harmless..
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Just a bit of advice for the newbies
I know what I am doing now

[REQ] ROM without Manila

Has anybody considered cooking a ROM without Manila? It would make the device lighter and allow people to install any UI they fancy.

You can just disbale TF3D in your stock ROM and you will left with windows 6.1 standard OS. Then you can install and use any UI you facy.

Nara-e-Mastana said:
You can just disbale TF3D in your stock ROM and you will left with windows 6.1 standard OS. Then you can install and use any UI you facy.
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Yes, that is a well known method of disabling Manila. However, what I was asking was for a ROM without Manila like the ones that have been developed for the Diamond and other devices.

i may cook one soon, i also want a clean wm rom

can somebody create a lite rom?
one without all the unnecessary apps but provide .cab for our own installation and customization???
all the roms available come with at least 1 app which i don't use... so its a matter of remove this useless app and add another... so no point for me to flash another rom...

jeRrRKKKK said:
can somebody create a lite rom?
one without all the unnecessary apps but provide .cab for our own installation and customization???
all the roms available come with at least 1 app which i don't use... so its a matter of remove this useless app and add another... so no point for me to flash another rom...
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That is exactly what I was getting at when I made the initial request. A ROM with only the very basics in it like the ones Bepe used to do for the Diamond.

Noob Cooker Release: WM6.1 PRO Build 19214

My very first successfully cooked ROM
**WM6.1 CE OS 5.2.19214 (Build 19214.1.0.4)
SYS & XIP from Kaiser Official Rom
Stock-like Rom with stock like functions.
Get it Here: http://jmaverion.net/treo750/WM6.1build19214.rar
Since I desperately needed a WM6.1 with a higher build than the standard 19199 for work, I set out to learn how to cook a higher build rom. After 3 days of work and a bunch of failed roms I did it. This is my very first cooked working rom. Seems pretty stable. Please review and mention any bugs....One bug to mention is that OneNote installs itself into another "Office Mobile" folder creating an extra Office Mobile folder.

Congratulations! Do you think it is possible to build a wm6.5 rom with this kitchen or is it straight wm6.1?
Greetings

Need good recipe for installing new ROM
What post has easiest directions for installing ROM? Flashing phone is needed? but not sure what that entails or requires (sofware?)...

after short test:
- in programs is folder Office mobile multiple
- missing skin for Windows media
- bottom bar sometimes is not changing skin or on click show old skin
+ storage free 53Mb
+ palm messaging etc.
keep work and good luck to next relase
What about WM6.5? Can you cook WM6.5? because Veisen ROM is only beta.

jhnstn00 said:
What post has easiest directions for installing ROM? Flashing phone is needed? but not sure what that entails or requires (sofware?)...
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Look for the Unlocking and Unbranding post. It has the easiest directions for unlocking you phone and putting on the HardSPL for flashing custom ROMS
as for installing custom roms on a phone already HardSPL'ed just use that flasher I included in the download.
MikyWoW said:
after short test:
- in programs is folder Office mobile multiple
- missing skin for Windows media
- bottom bar sometimes is not changing skin or on click show old skin
+ storage free 53Mb
+ palm messaging etc.
keep work and good luck to next relase
What about WM6.5? Can you cook WM6.5? because Veisen ROM is only beta.
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Thanks for the feedback. TO add to the list of bugs for this version, I found that with SPB Mobile Shell 3 and HTC Home installed, after making a phone call it seems to have a memory leak.
As for the request of a WM6.5 for the treo, I'll start working on one next week. I have exam finals this weekend.

The link is not valid. Anyone care to post new link?

Need help with first time cooking...

Thanks in advance for all your help.
Hi, I am trying to cook for the first time and I'm using Ervius VK. I had been reading through the Chef's Central and X1 ROM Development forums for some time. I still need some stuff cleared out.
When I download a new SYS build, I find two folders .ROM and .VM inside it. Am I supposed to discard these two folders while porting the build to my kitchen, or should I do something with it?
If the downloaded build already has MSXIPKernel, should I use it or dump the MSXIPKernel from the xip.bin that came along with the new build?
For my first ROM I was planning on using the WM6.1 build 21057, before trying a 6.5 build. But before that, I wanted to know whether build 21057 is a proper build. I am asking this because, in the build that I downloaded, every package had the same build number (5.2.21057.1610) and some one commented about it in that thread, but there was no respose. Is it better than 21056?
I know that some of these questions may seem too obvious, but this is just me being a bit overly cautious as I still love my X1 too much to make it suffer

When I download a new SYS build, I find two folders .ROM and .VM inside it. Am I supposed to discard these two folders while porting the build to my kitchen, or should I do something with it?
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use ones from your current build.
OSBuilder, for example, can simply ignore such folders.
If the downloaded build already has MSXIPKernel, should I use it or dump the MSXIPKernel from the xip.bin that came along with the new build?
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usually it doesn't matter, it means that someone else has already extracted it.
For my first ROM I was planning on using the WM6.1 build 21057, before trying a 6.5 build. But before that, I wanted to know whether build 21057 is a proper build. I am asking this because, in the build that I downloaded, every package had the same build number (5.2.21057.1610) and some one commented about it in that thread, but there was no respose. Is it better than 21056?
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I can't say anything about 21057, but usually changes in builds of one branch are very little, so you can simply use 21056 if you don't trust 21057.

Thanks for the quick reply. I made my first ROM with the 21057 build SYS. Worked fine. The improvements in performance could have been from the page pool patching or from some other modification rather than the newer build, but I really couldn't tell that at this point.
One problem though, In the stock R3A ROM, you could sort of click and drag using stylus in the file explorer to select multiple items or drag and drop in the total commander beta. But with the new build this has disappeared. I still can drag to select text while editing, but no drag-n-drop or drag-n-select. If any one could point out a way to fix this, it would be great.

[KITCHEN][16.10.2011] nsourm Kitchen

This thread is meant for Kitchen discussion only! (e.g. problems with cooking, possible fixes and/or updates for the kitchen, etc.)
Pre-built stock nsourm’s ROMs ready for flashing (built using this kitchen)
5 versions
This is the same kitchen i've used for my rom
The kitchen is prepared in 9 languages:
0C0A = Spanish rom
040C = French rom
0406 = Danish rom
0407 = German rom
0408 = Greek rom
0409 = WWE rom
0410 = Italian rom
0413 = Dutch rom
0419 = Russian rom
How to cook a ROM
Step 1: Extract the Kitchen
Extract nsourm kitchen in a folder of your choice eg c: folder.
Step 2: Starting up
Once you've extracted the file, you can start the kitchen by launching osKitchen.exe.
This is how it should look like: (see pic1)
Click on the button "Open Project" and select the inside the htc photon folder the type of ROM you want to use as a Base. You can choose between the five versions. (pic2)
Once you have loaded up your kitchen, you have the same setup i used for the release of my roms.
You could now just press "Start building rom" and build your first rom, however this kitchen is meant so users can create their personal ROMs (with only the stuff you need)
Note that i have already dissabled some packages but you can pass the message and build the rom.
Step 3: Customization
Once you've loaded a «stock ROM», u can customize it to your own needs. U can exclude packages, add new packages, or edit some of the app.reg files to tweak it even more.
To exclude a package, u simply need to unmark the package by pressing the box next to the package, and the packages will be disabled and not used while building the ROM.
The sys tab is for windows mobile build. Be careful with this tab, because there are some packages that can’t be disabled. I've already include sys packages 23152, 29013, 29017, 29020, 29022.The last one is new one so if you build a rom with that you are going to have a brand new rom.
The ext packages tab is the main tab and this can be modified easily.
Keep in mind however that some packages are required for some core functions of the ROM and/or sense. I did my best categorising the stuff in folders so it's easier to know which packages can be removed without affecting functionality.
There are 2 extra folders
1. Sourmelidis apps
2. Sourmelidis cht modifications and tweaks
Both folders include extra apps and modifications that can be excluded from rom without affecting anything
The advanced tweaks tab is for some tweaks for the whole rom, such as cfc compressed rom, pagepool. Splash screen etc
Step 4: Building and flashing
Once you're ready, just go ahead and press the "Start building" button, this will take a while (it depends on how fast is your pc, laptop).
Once done, you will get a file called "ruu_signed???.nbh" in the HTC photon output folder
This file is your ROM, it's built and now ready to be flash, with the known procedure using cottulas sspl
And of course the link to download.
http://www.filefactory.com/f/bd10296fa2465c0b/
I would like to thank:
1. Airxtreme for kitchen
2. Donators
3. And of course all of you who have provided me with feedback, bug and reports because you make the kitchen- rom better.
Unfortunately due to lack of time i can’t support it as i want to but you can find answers to the windows mobile development thread, or by posting in the kitchen’s thread so someone except me(if i can) will answer your question
As i mentioned before i don’t have much time so i can’t promise many things for future versions of the kitchen. I will try to do my best………..
You can use the kitchen to publish your rom in any site, but it will be nice if you mention somewhere my name……..But if you don’t want there is no problem.
At last i want to mention that i’m not a programmer (i would like to,but…) so you can make the kitchen even better.

reserved for extra things and older versions of kitchens
version 3.10
http://www.filefactory.com/f/6a5b69b0f02eb5a4/
version 3.00
http://www.filefactory.com/f/24eca3a57d5e088c/
version 2.70
http://www.filefactory.com/f/bd67e419239921d0/
version 2.60
http://www.filefactory.com/f/eb4e7000f380a5b0/
To start from scratch:
1.shipped roms
http://www.filefactory.com/f/caaf6572306c114e/
2. Win mobile builds
http://www.filefactory.com/f/4ff7a435ec5be194/

Really great work nsourm! Thnx for your tutorial and file upload .

the big big thanks

will try it out
edit: Hey can I use original rom i your kitchen and add what i want to it?

problem
i did somethin wrong cooking a rom that stoped booting at the firs image ,any ideea how can i put it in bootloader mode so i can flash another rom or i'm busted ? thankyou
later edit : i found out how to do that

pokosik said:
will try it out
edit: Hey can I use original rom i your kitchen and add what i want to it?
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of course you can do that.But you are going to start from scratch and this is a big job...

here is the answer if someone dose the same mistake i did (wrong cooking ) ,after flashing a bad ''built by me'' rom the device would't boot anymore .
1.Enter bootloader mode (device off, VOL DOWN + POWER simult.)
2.Flash stock rom for your device (only,you can download it using youre phone SN )
3.That's it ,now you can flash any rom you want
Hope this can help those having trouble experimenting like me

uploading shipped roms in second post
will upload later and different win mobile builds

Hello nsourm,
I try to make my own rom (40c) but the process is in failure when creating the nbh file.
The file is not create in NBH OUPUT folder.(no file found)
Any ideas ?
Thank for your help.
Regards,

lucotte said:
Hello nsourm,
I try to make my own rom (40c) but the process is in failure when creating the nbh file.
The file is not create in NBH OUPUT folder.(no file found)
Any ideas ?
Thank for your help.
Regards,
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do you have any AntiVirus program running?and what's exactly the error? upload a screenshot

I already try to disconnect antivirus program but some error message.
See picture.

lucotte said:
I already try to disconnect antivirus program but some error message.
See picture.
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Hello lucotte.Very strange problem.Not had that before.
Try this tool
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7761467&postcount=2900
this tool helps to build the .nbh file,after having the os.nb

still uploading shipped roms
Due to some problems shipped roms still uploading....

nsourm said:
Due to some problems shipped roms still uploading....
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shipped roms are all up.
Uploading windows mobile builds....

Hello,
I tryed with my note book with XP and is it working, I think that I'have issue with my computer and w7...not time to find what's happen for the moment.
Thank you for your support.
Regards,

lucotte said:
Hello,
I tryed with my note book with XP and is it working, I think that I'have issue with my computer and w7...not time to find what's happen for the moment.
Thank you for your support.
Regards,
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Hello lucotte.Something strange with installed programs on your win7 pc.I have win7 and all things are ok.
hope you like my job.

As you said, something is strange on my computer...
Of course I like you good job.
Regards,

lucotte said:
Hello,
I tryed with my note book with XP and is it working, I think that I'have issue with my computer and w7...not time to find what's happen for the moment.
Thank you for your support.
Regards,
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We're the same boat..Win7 64bit got error..while I'm back to use my PC at home running XP no any problem.
BTW. thks for your good job.

second post updated with shipped roms and windows mobile builds.
No you can try different builds with the kitchen.You can ask me how to do it