Should I trade my HTC Pure with an iPhone? - Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I recently put my HTC Pure on craiglist for trade with iPhone. I got response from one girl who wants to trade her iphone 3G 8GB (she said she bought it 3 months back) with my HTC Pure.
I have less than a day to make this decision. And now I am so confused... Should I do this trade? Is it a fair deal?
A few more questions (may be this is not the right place to ask these questions but if anyone has any idea then please let me know.)
1. Is there a forum as good as xda-developers.com for iPhone? If yes then what is it?
2. Can I use my current ATT Phone Simcard into iPhone without buying the costly dataplan?
3. How will I make sure that the iPhone is not stolen one?
4. I have heard about "iPhone Clones". How to make out the difference between iPhone and "iPhone Clone"

No way!!!
I wouldn´t do it

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I wouldn´t do it
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Any Specific reason m8? I know I love my Pure and I am a big WM! I am doing this deal because I already have one more WM phone (ATT Tilt Kaiser) and now I want to see why does everyone talk about iPhone a lot.
There has to be something... Dont you think?

do it ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

is she local? if so, meet at a AT&T store and do the deal there....compare her iphone with the one in the store and find out if hers is a clone or not.

3G has a slow processor, and No real multi tasking. it's going be a downgrade for you, that's what i think. Lol. don't get sucked in with the candy clothed games

Do you know how slow the processor is?
I mean do you have an idea about the specifications of iPhone 3G processor vs. HTC Tilt?

I got both the 3G and the Pure, so I can comment on this
HTC is a work phone. Its designed to get stuff done. Office Mobile, multitasking, not to mention the inherent flexibility of WM. As a Pure owner, I'm sure you're aware of all of this.
All of this will be GONE on the iPhone. In its place will be a a great phone to consume media, HUGE selection of applications, a much more responsive touchscreen, and pretty much the best media experience on a phone.
What you gotta decide is which one of those things are more important to you. I couldn't decide on either, so I have been jumping back and forth for the past two months as what I need to get done with my phone changes.
Though, with the recent BS patent lawsuit from Apple, I havent been able to look at my iPhone or MacBook Pro the same way since...

I sold away my iPhone 3G after 3 months of having it. I need compatible Windows phone that will work with my PC so I stick to my Diamond2, TouchPro2 and 838Pro. For truly screen display, I have the Samsung Pixon 12 and OmniaII with AMOLED display which are very good in bright sunlight. For 12MP photo snapshots I have the Sony Ericsson Satio and the Samsung Pixon to do the job if I don't have my DSLR with me. The iPhone doesn't come close to any of these phones that are definite keepers for me. Therefore I sold the iPhone away without any regret. Talking about video calls on iPhone??? Apple have to do something about it.

I agree with demonic_pascal. We have both in my familly and I know what I prefer. Ever tried to to transfer files to/from the iphone? Its a PITA bigtime. I don't agree with comments about the media experience etiher. The Topaz will play far more file formats than the iPhone. If you are looking for a game console then get the iphone. If you want a phone that gets thigns done stick with teh Topaz.

2. Can I use my current ATT Phone Simcard into iPhone without buying the costly dataplan?
I dont think this is possible, cuz once the sim card is put into the phone, it will automatically update your phone to ATT database and you will force buy a data plan. You can try to unlock your iphone, I heard this works, but not so sure though.
4. I have heard about "iPhone Clones". How to make out the difference between iPhone and "iPhone Clone"
There are several post online that show you how to spot a fake iphone. Generally, the cover is not as polish, the Apple logo, the fine print on the back, the screen size.
The iphone is the good phone, it has a fast processor that runs games and app smoothly but I still wouldn't make the trade though. First, the Iphone 3G now is kinda obsolete. Second, she said that you have one day to make the trade, did she give you the good reason? If not, most of the time people just want to scam you so they put the time limit to make you think its a good deal. So just make sure that its real, tell her to post proof and ask her why the rush? Lastly, the ideal of owing an Iphone is just not that intriguing to me.

Never dream of it!
You'll regret it m8.. don't do it!

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You'll regret it m8.. don't do it!
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Lol Already sold my Pure for 300.
Now buying the iPhone in 270 from a local store. Lets see what happens.
I will post my experience. But I am still a XDA coz I have a TILT

Got rid of iphone. But I will say it is a lot better and finger friendly operating system than windows mobile. Bought htc hd 2 thereafter but sold that too eventually... After using iphone I can't use windows mobile lol.
Right now I have google nexus one. Wow... I love this phone more than any thing ever! Android is the best operating system. It is as finger friendly as iphone and you can customize it like windows mobile.
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Answer is no even tho you already made the deal. Just buy an iPod Touch and have it as mp3/video player+internet+twitter+facebook+email. I got a TD2 right now together with an iPod and I think it's a nice combination because I waste my battery in less than 6 hours if I start listening to music or watch videos.
I will get a HD2 later on tho but I will only use it for telephone, internet, email, sms, videos and all that stuff. iPod as mp3 player, always.

Iphone has about 400 times more apps and games. the 8 gig is slower but the 32gig and 64 are faster better hardware. if it were my i would trade my pure for the iphone 8gig. I have an ipod 32 gig i compared it next to my buddys 32gig iphone. as for app launching etc.. they were pretty much equal.. but my daughters 8 gig ipod next to my pure the the ipod is faster as in moving around and lauching most apps.
but hey. good luck

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Iphone 4 or nexus still

hey guys
have had my nexus since feb now and never looked back till i seen the iphone 4
i know i know
i hate apple 2 but with all there polished apps and 720p rec and well just the smoothness im wondering if i should take the switch
i live in aust and pretty much no1 knows about the nexus or any even android its weird and there not really in Australian apps for train times or football scores that are any good.. and i have seen apples and there awesome
so after seeing the iphone 4 what you guys think
I'll never buy an iPhone or an Apple product, simply because I dislike how they run things and "assume" for the majority of their user base.
I will readily admit the iPhone4 looks good and will have a stunning display and has loads of apps. However I see the iPhone as a common user phone - not that there's anything wrong with that.
I prefer Android because it gives me the flexibility to customise and manipulate almost everything on it, how I want and in the way I want. Apple does not.
And you can't really compare teh hardware between the two - the iPhone4 is a good piece of kit, no doubt. But keep in mind the NexusOne came out long before it. New hardware and kit comes out every month or so - within a few months there will be phones that greatly surpass the iPhone4's hardware.
It comes down to what YOU want from a phone. I'm happy with Android and will stick with it, having used Symbian and Winmo 6.5 previously. I've used an iPhone - and I don't like the "Apple Experience".
Just my opinion..
I like the customisation and freedom of android, but the iphone 4 is very well polished, I just want to see how the screen does in bright daylight as the N1 is ****...
If you have to ask, I think you're in the wrong place.
720p just came in
Stick to the Nexus one and wait for the Nexus two? probably better hardware and android 3.0
^^if there is a nexus two im deffinatly buying it the nexus one has been the best phone ever and iwont swtich to apple. ever.
Or get a Samsung galaxy s
what is so attractive about the new iphone, why are people all the sudden "should i switch?". Why?! Nothing has changed! They have a new screen, thats cool, multitaking, thats old news but ok, WHAT?! There is nothing enticing in the new iPhone versus the older ones
The big question to ask is this:
Do you LIKE being in shackles?
Or do you like to be FREE?
If you like being in shackles, then I have to ask this next question: Why have you not committed a serious crime in a non-death-penalty jurisdiction to land yourself permanently in prison?
Or have you? Do they let you have cellphones in prison now?
4luk88 said:
hey guys
have had my nexus since feb now and never looked back till i seen the iphone 4
i know i know
i hate apple 2 but with all there polished apps and 720p rec and well just the smoothness im wondering if i should take the switch
i live in aust and pretty much no1 knows about the nexus or any even android its weird and there not really in Australian apps for train times or football scores that are any good.. and i have seen apples and there awesome
so after seeing the iphone 4 what you guys think
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Go for the phone that you feel gives the most of your money. We are consumers and I have learned the hard way that no company really cares about you or your support. Companies like MS, Google and Apple are there to make money. Don't feel obliged to stay with a phone or OS because of moral reasons. If one product gives you better value go for it.
For me, N1 was better value than WinMo and I made the switch. A lot of my work is based on google apps (domain one.. no android) so I get more done with android. But if tomorrow, iPhone does it better, Ii will shift.
You will save a lot or be more happy by throwing away any brand loyalty/hatred.
I'm sticking with whatever phone Cyanogen get's I had the iPhone and realized I hated it because I felt so restricted I mean I won't lie it had great apps and games and a superior media player but I still feel that android is superior just because little features like deleting a song from my phone instead of hooking up to iTunes. After I got rid of my iPhone I got a G1 and discovered Cyanogen and then saw that he was getting the Nexus One and I got one a week or 2 after it was realized. So whatever phone he gets next I'll probably be getting it

Just got an iPhone 4

I just got an iPhone 4 last night and I was pretty excited about it. I upgraded my account and got the 32 gb version for 300. I still have my nexus and I'm thinking of doing an in-depth review between the 2 once I use the iPhone for a little. The hardware is beautiful and feels amazing in your hand and high quality. I got a sgp full body protection in crystal clear and by being an idiot, I messed it up. So far in the last day, I've had a good experience with it, antenna problem goes down to 1-2 bars if I really squeeze hard but never alters Internet speeds or drops calls. After I got a side decal, it's hard to get it to 1 bar and sometimes 2. So do u guys think I made a good decision in getting it and would you like to see me do a review between the nexus and the iPhone. I've had the nexus for 4 months.
Tell me more about your screen protectors, riveting...
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would you like to see me do a review between the nexus and the iPhone. I've had the nexus for 4 months.
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Nope.
And no, your antenna issues on your iPhone aren't as breathtaking for nexus one forum as you may think =)
Otherwise, grats!
Personally would never get an apple product.
Meh, the fact that you are even remotely excited about the Iphone is enough to turn most of us fanbois off.
But yeah, no one's stopping you from doing a comparison review.
could you tell us 'why' you got one?
what appeals to you about it?
I'm curious why so many people switch phones so fast? Already tired of the Nexus that quick? Or maybe people just have the extra cash for all the latest phones lol.
I have had a my share of iPhones. After owning a nexus one or any other similar phone I would never go back. IPhones are so restrictive on everything it sucks. Your better off selling it on Craigslist for double what you got it for and spend that money on something useful.
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donutman said:
I'm curious why so many people switch phones so fast? Already tired of the Nexus that quick? Or maybe people just have the extra cash for all the latest phones lol.
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Gotta drive that multi-trillion dollar debt =)
i ordered an iPhone 4 just so i could sell it on eBay. made a real quick $700 after selling it a week ago for $900..... N1 FTW!
Honestly I wouldn't mind having the new iPhone. But I think I would wait and get the phone once all the issues have been addressed.
But I don't think iPhones can match android right now.
What I love about the iPhone is that the os is really smooth and fast. Obviously I hate how its restrictive.
But having the new iPhone with the nexus one would be pretty sweet. At least for me anyways.
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don't bother with the iPhone 4. just buy the 3G s. there is almost no difference in performance between the 2 and the 3G s can actually make a phone call.
Moved to OT.
Its a TREND thing every one knows about the signal problem and does that stop them NO, look at me Ive got an icrap. Now if that was the latest great windows phone it would get slaughtered but because its the icrap its OK lets get it and don't bother it cannot make calls i just have one
BUT a review would be nice on why you decided to get one knowing the signal problem or do you use the Gafa Tape ??
How about a review on the best type of tape to use?
I've never really liked any of the iPhones. This is the first one I ever even thought about getting. The hardware is superb, nexus feels cheaper. Camera is great, video recording was much better than the nexus but camera quality was only slightly better. The screen is beautiful and just as good if not better than nexus. Better in sunlight too. ITunes is still annoying and the iPhone doesn't sort the artists by album artist. Both have great call quality but the iPhone has a louder earpiece. That's what I got so far after one and half days of use. Os is annoyingly restricted, have to wait till jailbreak gets released. Touch screen works much better, more responsive and no multi touch issues. Games are better too. So far i am enjoying the new iPhone
Ok so this is the deal with me and iPhones, I had 5 different 3GS and sold them all for a very good profit, i now have the Evo and wouldnt think of getting another iPhone unless is to make some quick $$$$. The freedom Android gives us its unblieveable ...so why go back to an iphone? Lol just look at all the crap you gotta go thru just to add some music or videos. Android keeps it simple, not just with that example but with everything else. Dont get me wrong i love the hardware on the iPhone 4, but is it worth going through all the crap Apple makes you go thru? Na, just to change a battery its a mission nd they charge for everything. So again to sum it up I basically say sell the iPhone, and stay with the beautiful Nexus.
JBlaze -- Evo 4G
So, what's it like being different like all the other different people?
Just kidding... Have fun with your new gadget.
mets3214 said:
I just got an iPhone 4 last night and I was pretty excited about it. I upgraded my account and got the 32 gb version for 300. I still have my nexus and I'm thinking of doing an in-depth review between the 2 once I use the iPhone for a little. The hardware is beautiful and feels amazing in your hand and high quality. I got a sgp full body protection in crystal clear and by being an idiot, I messed it up. So far in the last day, I've had a good experience with it, antenna problem goes down to 1-2 bars if I really squeeze hard but never alters Internet speeds or drops calls. After I got a side decal, it's hard to get it to 1 bar and sometimes 2. So do u guys think I made a good decision in getting it and would you like to see me do a review between the nexus and the iPhone. I've had the nexus for 4 months.
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Shame to hear that
my condolences, poor Nexus1
I prefer to non see your nexus vs iphoney comparison
iPhone 4 haven't landed here yet, but I have seen some imported from UK and US. The first phones to hit the "norwegian Craigslist" had a pricetag of 2300 dollars LOL!!!!!

Nexus one or iphone 4

Hey guys.
So here us it, I have a nexus one. Should I get a iPhone 4 or no.is it worth it for a iPhone 4 or would the iPhone 5 be very better. If not then the iPhone 4 would be nice.is it worth going from a nexus one to a iPhone.
I like it.
Or if not am iPhone then what?
The iPhone have 32gig internal while the nexus have 512megs.
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you should be burnt at the stand to even mention the iphone here LOL
Shivammcool said:
Hey guys.
So here us it, I have a nexus one. Should I get a iPhone 4 or no.is it worth it for a iPhone 4 or would the iPhone 5 be very better. If not then the iPhone 4 would be nice.is it worth going from a nexus one to a iPhone.
I like it.
Or if not am iPhone then what?
The iPhone have 32gig internal while the nexus have 512megs.
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Most people on xda don't really like the iphone. Im just wondering why you want to switch to the iPhone now? Is it the storage space for apps? There are fixes for that.
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msavic6 said:
Most people on xda don't really like the iphone. Im just wondering why you want to switch to the iPhone now?
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...because it's pretty! xD
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danger-rat said:
...because it's pretty! xD
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And it has the *wifis*
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Shivammcool said:
Hey guys.
So here us it, I have a nexus one. Should I get a iPhone 4 or no.is it worth it for a iPhone 4 or would the iPhone 5 be very better. If not then the iPhone 4 would be nice.is it worth going from a nexus one to a iPhone.
I like it.
Or if not am iPhone then what?
The iPhone have 32gig internal while the nexus have 512megs.
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I agree 512megs sucks I cant even keep a year worth of calendar without my phone running out of memory. If your willing to put up with hardcore restrictions and such a basic plain interface then why not. I played with the iphone for a day and I can't stand the simple UI its like eating a garden salad with no dressing just simple plain and tasteless in my opinion but doesnt mean I would never get one.
If you get the iphone, make sure to get the one with the bigger GBs .
Seriously, I think one of the biggest drawback of iphone is having to use itunes. to sync and having to deal with itunes/iphone restrictions on copying DRM music and limiting the number of computers that an iphone can sync with. Just such a hassle in my experience. Android allows you to mount as usb storage and just drag over what you want with no restrictions.
Another item I don't like is the enclosed battery. If the battery in my Nexus dies, I can swap it out for a back up battery. When my battery reaches end of life, I can just buy a new battery. I believe Apple requires you to send the phone to them and pay a substantial fee to have the battery replaced.
Additionally, you have the antenna problem which was supposedly fixed by free cases. And you are limited to only the Apps that Apple approves.
512mb of internal storage is a small amount, but music and other data can be stored on the microSD card. 32Gb microSD cards are readily available and 16Gb cards are really becoming affordable.
I personally think that the iphone has good hardware and easy-to-use software, but the idea that Apple/AT&T limit what you can do with your device is a deal breaker. Why should anybody be able to tell me which music I can listen to, which PCs I can sync to, or which apps I can install on my phone.
Nexus
My Nexus is reliable. I can't say that about iPhones, also, Android is the best mobile OS by far for multitasking
LOL...do you really want to leave XDA & not have it's support & development
tech338 said:
If you get the iphone, make sure to get the one with the bigger GBs .
Seriously, I think one of the biggest drawback of iphone is having to use itunes. to sync and having to deal with itunes/iphone restrictions on copying DRM music and limiting the number of computers that an iphone can sync with. Just such a hassle in my experience. Android allows you to mount as usb storage and just drag over what you want with no restrictions.
Another item I don't like is the enclosed battery. If the battery in my Nexus dies, I can swap it out for a back up battery. When my battery reaches end of life, I can just buy a new battery. I believe Apple requires you to send the phone to them and pay a substantial fee to have the battery replaced.
Additionally, you have the antenna problem which was supposedly fixed by free cases. And you are limited to only the Apps that Apple approves.
512mb of internal storage is a small amount, but music and other data can be stored on the microSD card. 32Gb microSD cards are readily available and 16Gb cards are really becoming affordable.
I personally think that the iphone has good hardware and easy-to-use software, but the idea that Apple/AT&T limit what you can do with your device is a deal breaker. Why should anybody be able to tell me which music I can listen to, which PCs I can sync to, or which apps I can install on my phone.
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I think with every platform and company you get will have their big downsides and their big advantages and its up to the user which one he/she is willing to put up with. Apple restrictions are insane sometimes but they still manage to move crazy units and theirs hardly any competition for their app store. While android theirs more freedom and choices companies are killing the experience with their lack of updates and its sad that I cant pick up a beautiful nice looking x10 and streak or the t-mo defy because the companies wont be updating their devices and Google wont do anything about it. As my opinion I wouldn't pay AT&T those insane plan prices for the iphone.
I would say Android platform will very soon beat i-stuff, and Nexus One will soon get 2.3 OTA.
Nexus One is ... 4 months older than iPhone4? But till now I personally find nothing that iPhone4 can do but Nexus One can not.
Go with Android man
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I would say Android platform will very soon beat i-stuff, and Nexus One will soon get 2.3 OTA.
Nexus One is ... 4 months older than iPhone4? But till now I personally find nothing that iPhone4 can do but Nexus One can not.
Go with Android man
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as far as phone pretty much the same as far as app store no. Right now I'm looking for a real carbon fiber case for nexus one theirs none while iphone has alot of them ok so im looking for a nice metal case their only like 2 and their bulky as hell and ugly while iphone even has a bamboo case Im not a hater but I'm hating on iphones case selection their to die for.
tech338 said:
If you get the iphone, make sure to get the one with the bigger GBs .
Seriously, I think one of the biggest drawback of iphone is having to use itunes. to sync and having to deal with itunes/iphone restrictions on copying DRM music and limiting the number of computers that an iphone can sync with. Just such a hassle in my experience. Android allows you to mount as usb storage and just drag over what you want with no restrictions.
Another item I don't like is the enclosed battery. If the battery in my Nexus dies, I can swap it out for a back up battery. When my battery reaches end of life, I can just buy a new battery. I believe Apple requires you to send the phone to them and pay a substantial fee to have the battery replaced.
Additionally, you have the antenna problem which was supposedly fixed by free cases. And you are limited to only the Apps that Apple approves.
512mb of internal storage is a small amount, but music and other data can be stored on the microSD card. 32Gb microSD cards are readily available and 16Gb cards are really becoming affordable.
I personally think that the iphone has good hardware and easy-to-use software, but the idea that Apple/AT&T limit what you can do with your device is a deal breaker. Why should anybody be able to tell me which music I can listen to, which PCs I can sync to, or which apps I can install on my phone.
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Yeah that's the thing I don't like about the iPhone. Everything about iTunes. But that's just the only thing, in everything else, I Like the iPhone.
PS. I had experience before in jailbreaking the iPhone so I can make it very customizeable. But when I would get the iPhone I wont jb it right away, well not for about 2 months.
Then again, ya Can root the n1, which I need help for frg83d, and install cm.
So for both phones the customization is basically the same.
So which phone should I get, the iPhone 4 or the nexus one?
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Right now, the Ipwn 4 ... in a few months - dual core Tegra2 Androids with Gingerbread.
Shivammcool said:
So which phone should I get, the iPhone 4 or the nexus one?
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I say Nexus, but obviously, I am not quite objective. Really, if you want to stand out in a crowd... How many iPhone 4's have you seen out in the wild? 10, 20, 50? How many Nexus's have you seen? Personally, I have never seen anyone else with a Nexus One. People ask me all the time what kind of phone I have...
iPhone 4 is a very good phone. I just don't think that it buys you much compared to a Nexus... Front Camera? Cooler Design? Slightly Crisper screen? More accessories and apps? Not worth those few improvements for me to go through the hassle of using itunes and having to switch phones, get accustomed to a new OS, get new apps, ect.
I just don't see why you should switch unless you have the bug to get something new. Why don't you wait until CES and see if any new Android phones are coming out? At least wait until Gingerbread comes out and see if that changes your mind.
No way am I going to tell you to get an iPhone... But then again, I have never used one long term...
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My Nexus is reliable. I can't say that about iPhones, also, Android is the best mobile OS by far for multitasking
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I'd personally have to give that award to webOS
tech338 said:
I say Nexus, but obviously, I am not quite objective. Really, if you want to stand out in a crowd... How many iPhone 4's have you seen out in the wild? 10, 20, 50? How many Nexus's have you seen? Personally, I have never seen anyone else with a Nexus One. People ask me all the time what kind of phone I have...
iPhone 4 is a very good phone. I just don't think that it buys you much compared to a Nexus... Front Camera? Cooler Design? Slightly Crisper screen? More accessories and apps? Not worth those few improvements for me to go through the hassle of using itunes and having to switch phones, get accustomed to a new OS, get new apps, ect.
I just don't see why you should switch unless you have the bug to get something new. Why don't you wait until CES and see if any new Android phones are coming out? At least wait until Gingerbread comes out and see if that changes your mind.
No way am I going to tell you to get an iPhone... But then again, I have never used one long term...
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I pretty much agree with this post. Either way--iOS or Android--I'd definitely wait until the next model (Tegra-based Android or iPhone 5).
I attend a fairly large school (around 20,000 students) and have yet to see another Nexus One. It is nice to be different.
Also, although screen size is certainly personal preference, the 3.5" iPhone screen is starting to look a bit cramped compared to 4/4.3" screens. Having used the 3.5" iPhone 3G, the 3.7" Nexus, and the 4" Samsung Vibrant (each for several months or more), I can say that an extra half inch or more can make quite a bit of difference.
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I pretty much agree with this post. Either way--iOS or Android--I'd definitely wait until the next model (Tegra-based Android or iPhone 5).
I attend a fairly large school (around 20,000 students) and have yet to see another Nexus One. It is nice to be different.
Also, although screen size is certainly personal preference, the 3.5" iPhone screen is starting to look a bit cramped compared to 4/4.3" screens. Having used the 3.5" iPhone 3G, the 3.7" Nexus, and the 4" Samsung Vibrant (each for several months or more), I can say that an extra half inch or more can make quite a bit of difference.
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Yeh I guess.
I like being the only one with a nexus.
If I have to wait for the next Gen phone I might not have enough money. I could get an unlocked or Rogers (yeah I'm in Canada) iphone 4 for a cheap price.
And think about it, the next gen might not be that good. When I was going to by the n1 people was telling me to wait for the iPhone 4 or other phones but little did they no that the n1 could rival with the best phones that are out now
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I will try to help you a little since i have both phones.
Nexus One:
- goods:
- Android with all it comes (easy to customize, real multi tasking between applications, widgets, etc)
- bigger screen
- easy to install custom ROM's
- a lot of applications (most of them free or with free versions)
- good network signal
- you can use it as USB mass storage
- good picture quality
- Flash support in browser
- text re-flow support in browser
- good music player
- music sounds better than on the iPhone
- bads:
- sometimes it becomes sluggy, it feels like it needs a restart.
- with the default firmware, the ringtone sound is a little weak. There are situations when you will not hear it (ie: when it is in your pocket in its case and there is some noise around).
iPhone4:
- cons:
- very nice design
- a lot of applications (most of them not free)
- good battery life
- front camera
- good quality for pictures and movies
- good music player
- bads:
- connection problems (yes it is true, if you are not holding it right you will have signal loses and calls dropped)
- you will have to use iTunes for everything (you can not copy music or films on the device and just play them, you have to synchronize them through iTunes)
- you can not use the device as USB mass storage
- no real multi tasking. For a lot of games or applications if you get out of it to check something else, when you go back it will start again.
- very intrusive notification system. They always are in your way. If you are playing a game or reading a website and a notification pops up you are interrupted. And as i said above, this makes some application to restart from the beginning
- the default internet browser misses flash support and text re-flow
- the camera interface has no settings (you can not stop the sound, change the picture format, or anything else)
- no file browser
- the settings interface looks for me more complicated than on Android
- the sound quality is not that good
Of course, everything above reflects my personal experience and opinions. You can always search on google for some comparisons and choose whatever you thinks it is better for you.
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I will try to help you a little since i have both phones.
Nexus One:
- goods:
- Android with all it comes (easy to customize, real multi tasking between applications, widgets, etc)
- bigger screen
- easy to install custom ROM's
- a lot of applications (most of them free or with free versions)
- good network signal
- you can use it as USB mass storage
- good picture quality
- Flash support in browser
- text re-flow support in browser
- good music player
- music sounds better than on the iPhone
- bads:
- sometimes it becomes sluggy, it feels like it needs a restart.
- with the default firmware, the ringtone sound is a little weak. There are situations when you will not hear it (ie: when it is in your pocket in its case and there is some noise around).
iPhone4:
- cons:
- very nice design
- a lot of applications (most of them not free)
- good battery life
- front camera
- good quality for pictures and movies
- good music player
- bads:
- connection problems (yes it is true, if you are not holding it right you will have signal loses and calls dropped)
- you will have to use iTunes for everything (you can not copy music or films on the device and just play them, you have to synchronize them through iTunes)
- you can not use the device as USB mass storage
- no real multi tasking. For a lot of games or applications if you get out of it to check something else, when you go back it will start again.
- very intrusive notification system. They always are in your way. If you are playing a game or reading a website and a notification pops up you are interrupted. And as i said above, this makes some application to restart from the beginning
- the default internet browser misses flash support and text re-flow
- the camera interface has no settings (you can not stop the sound, change the picture format, or anything else)
- no file browser
- the settings interface looks for me more complicated than on Android
- the sound quality is not that good
Of course, everything above reflects my personal experience and opinions. You can always search on google for some comparisons and choose whatever you thinks it is better for you.
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[Q] Iphone abouts?

Im giving in and buying an iPhone for professional use however i will still be sporting my Android Tablet everywhere i go.
However everywhere i look the prices for iPhones are MONSTROUS! any one know the best place to pick one up without contract?
P.S. I live in France. Contract prices here are crazy for iPhones.
For less than an iPhone, you could buy a top-end Android phone. Why are you considering only iOS? Does iOS has something that you need that no one else has?
I already have a galaxy tab so its pointless buying an android phone as its the salme thing (same apps) i've always been a bit of an all rounder and expermient with everything.
Ive got a macbook, windows computer, android tablet, and blackberry phone at the moment but i would like to start experimenting with the iPhone and Jailbreak.
Fields47 said:
I already have a galaxy tab so its pointless buying an android phone as its the salme thing (same apps) i've always been a bit of an all rounder and expermient with everything.
Ive got a macbook, windows computer, android tablet, and blackberry phone at the moment but i would like to start experimenting with the iPhone and Jailbreak.
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he iPhone is a pretty great device considering its developmenta and vast amount of users. When jailbrokwn it becomes a very powerful device but Android has more of a friendly experience compared to the iPhone. But if u wouldhaveto choose on a professional note id go with the iPhone its more operational and have a alot of business oriented apps. Don't get me wrongi loveandroid and wmo but the iPhone has more to offer at the moment.
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DroidFreek said:
he iPhone is a pretty great device considering its developmenta and vast amount of users. When jailbrokwn it becomes a very powerful device but Android has more of a friendly experience compared to the iPhone. But if u wouldhaveto choose on a professional note id go with the iPhone its more operational and have a alot of business oriented apps. Don't get me wrongi loveandroid and wmo but the iPhone has more to offer at the moment.
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It's development is tiny compared to Android. iOS 5 is touted to contain every feature available in Android 2.2 and nothing more. Stay away from apple and get some technologically advanced stuff.
I am thinking about what can i say regarding the iphone, but only occurs me one thing: LOL!
As the guy 2 posts above me said try looking in ebay
Or amazon or you can try craiglist or something like that
I'll trade my iphone for your macbook??
My iphone comes with a special cover that makes the iphone
practically invisible!!!
Thanks for your replys guys, Im closing in on a cheap one through my dad's company.
Wait for the iPhone 5 it shouls be out in a few months that way you can get a cheaper iPhone 4
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Anyone have a GNex, N7, and iPad?

I would try N7 in a heartbeat, if it weren't for already having the iPad3 alongside my GNex.
I was just wondering if anyone has all three and uses them all quite a bit?
The only time I could see myself really using all three is browsing N7 in bed while watching a movie on XBMC on iPad3.
But even then it seems like total overkill.
I have 4S, iPad 3 and now N7. The N7 is just easier to use for surfing and reading.
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I have an iPhone 4, the new iPad, GNex and Nexus 7. I still use the iPad at home, Nexus 7 has replaced my notepad at work and GNex is my primary phone for now.
I have an N7 and an iPad 3. I use the N7 for quick updates on email and such, along with ebook reading and gaming. I use the iPad for browsing, RSS feed reading, and video (particularly HBO Go). Both have their strengths and weaknesses.
If I was forced to choose just one, I'd choose the N7 if it had HBO Go. I think the 7" form factor is just better overall, for my uses at least.
Dang, you guys with iPhones and GNex surprise me as well though I'm impressed.
I sold my 4S a few days after I got my GNex.
I originally planned on SIM swapping phones when I pleased, but then I found my 4S collecting dust and it not feasible.
Thinking of getting the Gnex, how o you like move from 4s? Miss anything? I hear a new nexus phone com in soon, the gnex only like 8 months old right?
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I love my GNex.
4S camera is unbeatable. And I had the 32GB model, but I sold it after unlocking it for enough to cover GNex and almost all of my upgrade if I choose to get the next iPhone on contract.
A new Nexus might come out/probably will, but after that price drop, I didn't want to be playing the waiting game. And I've never owned an Android before this.
I do
I have a retina iPad (still my favorite), Galaxy Nexus (it has pretty much become a glorified hotspot for my Nexus 7), iPhone 4s (my daily phone, but just barely as I go back and forth between my Galxy Nexus and iPhone 4s), and just got the Nexus 7 (I got the 8gb one as I use it primarily for an ereader and tinkering).
Like I said above my go to device is still my iPad. Thevisplay is about 90% of the reason. I mean the Nexus 7 has an ok display and it gets the job done but I expected better than my old ipad 2 as it has more pixel density and both are IPS, but I was way wrong. It is better than my former Transformer Prime by a country mile and way way way better than my Xoom. I really am sensitive to great displays though. For some it doesn't bother them, but for me I've been waiting years for the display tech we are now seeing and the iPhone and iPad retina displays are so far ahead of anything else out in my opinion it's almost hard to use anything else. I know it sounds stupid and lame but even months after getting my retina iPad at launch I still get that amazed feeling every time I pick it up and I really really notice the displays on my Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus especially when reading.
Anyways I would say if you got the cash pick a Nexus 7 up. It is the best $200 I've spent in a long time and I have no regrets except the severe lack of apps but I don't notice it as much as I did on my Prime or Xoom I think that's due to phone apps (like twitter) look much better on the Nexus 7 than a 10 inch display. If you have any other questions let me know. I'll be more than happy to help.
Second that, best 200 spent in some time. N7 is just refreshing!
Which you prefer, 4s or gnex overall?
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yeah i'd be hard pressed to give up my ipad 3 also. I love it and it satisfies my iOS cravings. After all, iOS was apparently originally designed for a tablet in its development before being launched on iPhone (back when it was iPhone OS)
I also swapped it way too many times to get one that had an acceptable QC screen, BEAUTIFUL display, without a pink hot corner, or multiple colored tints, or weird contrast. No way I'd give this one up easily. Even when an iPad "4" or whatever comes out.
Even with Color Profile jailbreak app to tweak it can't hide a defective screen. Meanwhile, the one and only iPad3 my parents bought is perfect as well (I have a knack for this thing).
4S screen is definitely technically superior to AMOLED and brighter, but I don't care. I pick up my parents' iPhones and I wonder how I went 3.5" so long without complaint. the 4.65" (and maybe I got a great screen too whereas others did not) makes browsing enjoyable again on the go.
I am still "open" as to which phone I will purchase next. But I'm so much more pleased with my Nexus than I could have ever anticipated.
I should also add I've had every generation iPhone (traded my 4 and cash for a 4S back in January before I sold it a few weeks ago) and without jailbreak, I think I would have tried out Android much sooner. Stock iPhones bother me a lot. They're too limiting. I was even going to hold onto my 4 indefinitely over 4S until I started seeing that developers were close to wrapping up the iOS5/A5 exploit on 5.0.1 (and later 5.1.1)
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Thinking of getting the Gnex, how o you like move from 4s? Miss anything? I hear a new nexus phone com in soon, the gnex only like 8 months old right?
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I keep going back and forth as I own the Galaxy Nexus and iPhone 4s, but the iPhone is my daly phone right now. It is just a much better all around device in my opinion. I love the display and it is the best I've ever used and it makes a huge difference especially considering my Nexus display feels really dingey. I don't know how to explain it, but it really bothers me. I'm not a huge fan of super AMOLED displays and usually stay away from Samsung (although this is by far the best Samsung device I've used in terms of build quality). I'm just a huge fan of displays showing correct colors and the over saturation, dingey whites and grays, and pentile display really throw me off. With that said I won't be getting rid of my Galaxy Nexus anytime soon as I still feel it is the only Android device out right now worth buying and that's due to the latest software. jelly Bean is excellent and a huge step in the right direction.
I dont think you will regret buying one, but for me the iPhone is just the better phone and smaller screen and lack of LTE are worth the payoff for everything else that just works. Number one is the display like I mentioned. Two, the apps. You cannot get anything close on android when it comes to apps and especially quality and it is getting more and more obvious especially on tablets. Three, build quality. It amazes me that it's been over two and a half years since the iPhone 4 release and still OEMs are behind the iPhone in build quality. The only companies even playing in the same ball field is Nokia (I sure hope a high end WP8 comes to Verizon with LTE) and HTC and only recently with the One X and One S. Samsung and Motorola are not even close (in my opinion so don't think Im trying to flame). Four, Siri. Siri is more useful then I ever thought it would be. Don't believe the internets claiming that Google Now wipes the floor with Siri. It's just not true. Google Now is great and is a little faster, but it gets a lot of mistakes. I just cant explain it you just have to use it. When iOS 6 comes out it will add some much needed features and it will be no contest. The only thing Google Now does I wish Siri does is sports scores and iOS 6 will fill that gap. Five, fluidity. This should be number 2 on the list if there was any rhyme or reason to this list. There is no competition and even with the Project Butter improvements (I honestly think Project Butter is the single best improvement the Google team has ever added to android and it is catching up to iOS. The problem is they are catching up to iOS on the iPhone 3Gs. A huge improvement, but still a ways behind Apple). This is what keeps me coming back to iOS as of late. I tried to use JB as my daily phone and honestly I like the look and feel more than iOS but this is the main reason outside the display that keeps me going back. I dumped my iPhone 3Gs for the Nexus One years ago and have only used Android until getting my retina iPad. I even didn't purchase the iPad 2 and instead got the Xoom and later the Transformer Prime. I really notice it and it's a huge annoyance.
Sorry so long. Please just take this as an opinion and a subjective one at that. I only posted in this thread to help as I spend entirely too much money on technology and I know my opinion is by far the end all be all, but I dont get caught up in brand loyalty (I hate using the word fanboy as it is ugly and sounds stupid). The reason is I like to use all tech as there really is a reason we have two (hopefully three with windows and windows phone 8) great competitors in the market and being loyal to a brand made by a company that cares less about you and only wants your money is silly and keeps me from using some great and innovative technology. So don't take this as flaming just giviing my opinion. Good luck and let me know if u have any other questions I will be more than happy to help.
I have a iPhone 4s new iPad, Gnex, Nexus 7 and a few other Android devices .. but I'll tell you one thing .. my Apple products hardly get touched ... besides my macbook.. which is my main computer ... I just can't be tied down to just what Apple wants ... Android is open source and has more options for me to control... Cydia is cool .. but I still find those tweaks to not come close to what Android does
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I keep going back and forth as I own the Galaxy Nexus and iPhone 4s, but the iPhone is my daly phone right now. It is just a much better all around device in my opinion. I love the display and it is the best I've ever used and it makes a huge difference especially considering my Nexus display feels really dingey. I don't know how to explain it, but it really bothers me. I'm not a huge fan of super AMOLED displays and usually stay away from Samsung (although this is by far the best Samsung device I've used in terms of build quality). I'm just a huge fan of displays showing correct colors and the over saturation, dingey whites and grays, and pentile display really throw me off. With that said I won't be getting rid of my Galaxy Nexus anytime soon as I still feel it is the only Android device out right now worth buying and that's due to the latest software. jelly Bean is excellent and a huge step in the right direction.
I dont think you will regret buying one, but for me the iPhone is just the better phone and smaller screen and lack of LTE are worth the payoff for everything else that just works. Number one is the display like I mentioned. Two, the apps. You cannot get anything close on android when it comes to apps and especially quality and it is getting more and more obvious especially on tablets. Three, build quality. It amazes me that it's been over two and a half years since the iPhone 4 release and still OEMs are behind the iPhone in build quality. The only companies even playing in the same ball field is Nokia (I sure hope a high end WP8 comes to Verizon with LTE) and HTC and only recently with the One X and One S. Samsung and Motorola are not even close (in my opinion so don't think Im trying to flame). Four, Siri. Siri is more useful then I ever thought it would be. Don't believe the internets claiming that Google Now wipes the floor with Siri. It's just not true. Google Now is great and is a little faster, but it gets a lot of mistakes. I just cant explain it you just have to use it. When iOS 6 comes out it will add some much needed features and it will be no contest. The only thing Google Now does I wish Siri does is sports scores and iOS 6 will fill that gap. Five, fluidity. This should be number 2 on the list if there was any rhyme or reason to this list. There is no competition and even with the Project Butter improvements (I honestly think Project Butter is the single best improvement the Google team has ever added to android and it is catching up to iOS. The problem is they are catching up to iOS on the iPhone 3Gs. A huge improvement, but still a ways behind Apple). This is what keeps me coming back to iOS as of late. I tried to use JB as my daily phone and honestly I like the look and feel more than iOS but this is the main reason outside the display that keeps me going back. I dumped my iPhone 3Gs for the Nexus One years ago and have only used Android until getting my retina iPad. I even didn't purchase the iPad 2 and instead got the Xoom and later the Transformer Prime. I really notice it and it's a huge annoyance.
Sorry so long. Please just take this as an opinion and a subjective one at that. I only posted in this thread to help as I spend entirely too much money on technology and I know my opinion is by far the end all be all, but I dont get caught up in brand loyalty (I hate using the word fanboy as it is ugly and sounds stupid). The reason is I like to use all tech as there really is a reason we have two (hopefully three with windows and windows phone 8) great competitors in the market and being loyal to a brand made by a company that cares less about you and only wants your money is silly and keeps me from using some great and innovative technology. So don't take this as flaming just giviing my opinion. Good luck and let me know if u have any other questions I will be more than happy to help.
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Thanks, good feedback!
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Yeah I appreciate your feedback as well.
I don't get why if you guys have one device collecting dust, why you'd hold onto it.
That was my original mentality to go between 4S and Nexus considering I got my 4S cheap and Nexus didn't break the bank. But realistically, I'm not gonna carry two phones at once, or a paper clip and rip apart both phones because I'm more in the mood for one than the other.
I think I preferred iPhone for the services it offered more than the phone itself (iMessage, though I have it on my iPad even though its apple ID and not phone number, but I have unlimited texts and I don't miss it much at all -- don't care if it says delivered or not, iTunes match although after a few major mishaps I feel like I should be refunded, and it transcodes audio if its not in the iTunes music store, Google Music uploads your collection as it is, which takes a while, but has its pluses too and the price is right).
The 4S camera is great, but I wanted to dabble with Android and Jelly Bean goodness, and I have a sneaking feeling I'll get a huge flagship phone at the end of the year that rocks the socks off that anyways.
And I'm into SLR photography.
4S is great, and SUPER fast, and with jailbreak mods, really enjoyable. But I think that small screen really hinders the experience, and I'm tired of the 4x4 layout after having all five iPhones.
I missed my iPhone a few days after selling it and was considering picking up another to SIM swap, then realized I didn't touch my iPhone once since having GNex. Maybe it was the novelty, but I've almost had it a month, and I'm immensely satisfied. And the huge mod community keeps me entertained as well.
And a new iPhone is just around the bend in case I ever want to dabble again. iOS 6 doesn't seem as competitive as iOS 5 was last year, its more severe catchup imo from what I've seen.
the iOS UI works great on tablet though. it'd be nice to have N7 as well, but I'm not as bothered by the "boring, old" UI on iPad for some reason.
And... I still have a 3GS in case I ever have iphone cravings, but even that's just been sitting on top of my drawer. So it seemed like having the cash instead of 4S was a good call.
And I never bought 4S for siri. I used it a few times, but I've already used Google Now like 3 x more than the 6 months I had 4S. I like that it has no charm, it shouldnt. Give me what I want so I can move on. If you can't answer a question, Google search is awesome. I don't need you to be cute, and I don't need an AI friend. That's just me though. neither are the MOST NECESSARY ever though. just nice additions.
And 4S (my familys') feels heavy after being used to juggling my Nexus.
For certain functions my iPad 3 is just too bulky and heavy. I have a rezound and I suppose I got the n7 was because I was using the phone for tapatalk, quick browsing, email and the like. I was using it like a mini tablet so I decided to just get one. BTW of all three devices I find the n7 easiest to type on.
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No problem man. I would find someone that has one and try it out. For some it bothers them and others it doesnt. I'll always be interested in iOS (especially since I have a MacBook Pro with Mountain Lion and having an iPhone 4s, retina iPad, and mac really has a lot of benefits with iCloud and all). Also I didnt mention it above but another thing I do often on my phone is music and especially podcasts and the iOS wins hands down at that. Google music doesn't hold a candle to iTunes in my opinion, but the again Safari doesn't hold a candle to Chrome and Gmail is one of my favorite apps of all time. Im really invested in iOS and Google. I'm just glad that Apple and Google have worked some stuff out to get Chrome on iOS and it seems to work pretty well. They must have more access to APIs then normal app devs. It just seems to be a great browser. It blows my mind cause you can't even get Chrome on pre ICS phones, which is the majority of all Android devices out right now, but you can get it on iOS. Also it might just be the retina iPad and iPhone but Google+ app looks, works and feels better on iOS than Android. I just wish Gmail on iOS was good as it seems pretty bad. Anyways good hunting you can always do what I've done and others on this post and get ya a Galaxy Nexus to run side by side your iPhone 4s. They both have their advantages, disadvantages, bugs, and features after all.
Yeah for sure.
I love my MBA 2011 13" like no other. I've used Macs exclusively (well, with occasional XP on virtual machine for windows only hack tools but never for leisure) for photography and what I do for the past 8 years. And every iPhone. And every iPad (though I flipped my iPad 1 for iPad 2 once I could get my hands on one within weeks of having it, I didn't want a dinosaur dated tablet once A5 came out with 512 of RAM). It was nerve wrecking even giving Android a try. I almost returned it to sender for fear I wouldn't like it and have to eat the $50+ restocking fee from Samsung/Google.
But I bit the bullet and I am glad I did.
I went from "I've been way too curious to try android, now that its $350 no contract for a Nexus, no brainer and I'll swap 4S and Nexus interchangeably" to "I'm gonna not even bother" to "oh whatever" to "Nexus only" and awaiting to see what comes out in just a few months and taking it from there.
In a good spot
it also bothered me when Chrome came out for iOS, that it uses Safari engine due to App Store guidelines but with Chrome-ish UI. It's what I call "fake Chrome" and I went back to using Mobile Safari right away. I still am not sure how it's so popuar besides syncing up with Chrome bookmarks and history and such from desktop Chrome.
And agreed, Gmail app on Android is so much better than Mail app with Gmail in my opinion. Once my exchange server account expired, and I just redirected the alias to my gmail, I found Android integration better.
And I'm curious to see how Apple maps pans out, but I'm more frightened than anything. Turn by turn and Google maps on android is excellent. I can't imagine that being a big positive, getting rid of something I rely on quite a bit. At best, it'll be a "successful alternative"
Lightflow rocks so hard too. I wish iPhone had something comparable. Knowing whether I have SMS, missed call, Voicemail, or Gmail from the distance without picking it up.
The thing that concerns me about N7, aside from the fact I have an iPad3 and love it so much, is that apps aren't yet tablet ready or made-for-tablet. Though for $200, and given that its Nexus brand and its popularity will rapidly increase, I think it'll be a well solidified market in no time. Who knows, maybe I'll end up getting one. Just dual wielding tablets seems more ridiculous to me than dual wielding phones, a concept I was originally "gun hoe" about.
I really enjoy this interesting conversation/debate and I hope it continues. I'm an XDA noob but people here seem so tolerant or indifferent of others technology preferences (without atrributing the fanboy label), and it's so awesome.
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Yeah I appreciate your feedback as well.
I don't get why if you guys have one device collecting dust, why you'd hold onto it.
That was my original mentality to go between 4S and Nexus considering I got my 4S cheap and Nexus didn't break the bank. But realistically, I'm not gonna carry two phones at once, or a paper clip and rip apart both phones because I'm more in the mood for one than the other.
I think I preferred iPhone for the services it offered more than the phone itself (iMessage, though I have it on my iPad even though its apple ID and not phone number, but I have unlimited texts and I don't miss it much at all -- don't care if it says delivered or not, iTunes match although after a few major mishaps I feel like I should be refunded, and it transcodes audio if its not in the iTunes music store, Google Music uploads your collection as it is, which takes a while, but has its pluses too and the price is right).
The 4S camera is great, but I wanted to dabble with Android and Jelly Bean goodness, and I have a sneaking feeling I'll get a huge flagship phone at the end of the year that rocks the socks off that anyways.
And I'm into SLR photography.
4S is great, and SUPER fast, and with jailbreak mods, really enjoyable. But I think that small screen really hinders the experience, and I'm tired of the 4x4 layout after having all five iPhones.
I missed my iPhone a few days after selling it and was considering picking up another to SIM swap, then realized I didn't touch my iPhone once since having GNex. Maybe it was the novelty, but I've almost had it a month, and I'm immensely satisfied. And the huge mod community keeps me entertained as well.
And a new iPhone is just around the bend in case I ever want to dabble again. iOS 6 doesn't seem as competitive as iOS 5 was last year, its more severe catchup imo from what I've seen.
the iOS UI works great on tablet though. it'd be nice to have N7 as well, but I'm not as bothered by the "boring, old" UI on iPad for some reason.
And... I still have a 3GS in case I ever have iphone cravings, but even that's just been sitting on top of my drawer. So it seemed like having the cash instead of 4S was a good call.
And I never bought 4S for siri. I used it a few times, but I've already used Google Now like 3 x more than the 6 months I had 4S. I like that it has no charm, it shouldnt. Give me what I want so I can move on. If you can't answer a question, Google search is awesome. I don't need you to be cute, and I don't need an AI friend. That's just me though. neither are the MOST NECESSARY ever though. just nice additions.
And 4S (my familys') feels heavy after being used to juggling my Nexus.
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It sounds like we are almost opposite. Ive been on Android for years and felt that I had left iOS for good. I even tortured myself by trying to talk myself into thinking that Android tablets where better than iPads and purchased the horrible Xoom and buggy Transformer Prime. I find myself in a weird spot with Android right now. Its hard to put my finger on it, really. I started out with the Nexus One after owning every iPhone up to the 3Gs and I was so bored with iOS. The Nexus One is still to this day my favorite device I've ever owned. I even find myself sometimes looking for a great deal on one just to have it. I have a bunch of phones lying around and I still can't see why I ever sold it. I think it was because it was an ATT one and I was even more sick of ATT then I was the 3Gs and I got a great job at Verizon Wireless (still work there now in fact). I keep all my devices in pristine condition and I hope I dont jinx myself, but I honestly cannot remember the last time I've dropped a device. Anyways me being bored and getting into a great new world in Android (the early days were great and Android is a whole different beast now) and also going to school and learning to code it felt like I would always have an Android device. I loved the openness, tinkering was great, and the community was even better. I mean I kept my Macbook and have even had a couple since then. I cant stand Windows (although I loved my HTC Trophy and WP7, go figure. Also XBOX 360 is still the best console ever IMHO) and I love Mac OS X. I guess the only thing I can think of that happened was the many many many skinned Android devices I've owned since my Nexus One and the many problems that came with them. I must have owned a dozen or so and if it came out on Verizon and was a high end device I probably owned it the last two and a half years. I had no desire to go back to the iPhone for the same reasons you mentioned above. The small screen and lack of LTE was the main ones.
Anyways the last year and a half has been real annoying on the Android front at least for me. You can chalk that up to what I mentioned above. The always waiting for updates (even thought the first thing I do is root and flash a ROM), the extreme lack of apps (even though I really didnt notice this until getting the retina iPad), the lagginess you get on an Android phone, and worst of all the bastardization of OEM skinned devices by their creators. What I mean was you would get maybe one update and it was on average 6-8 months too late, always had a million bugs, and by the time it launched you still are an Android version behind. Mostly this aggravating feeling I have of Android came from 3 devices. The HTC TBolt, Motorola Xoom (and Motorola Droid X and Droid 2, but Ill leave those out as I only kept them for less than a month before I couldnt take Blur anymore), and the Transformer Prime. Those devices and especially Honeycomb killed my love of Android. Well, those and Verizon not having a Nexus branded device (Im sorry I wont ever call the Xoom a Nexus device or even a Google Experience Device. Waiting 9 months for a promised 4G update, lack of SD card that works, months of waiting for ICS, and worst of all the horrible display. Its still the only device that gave me migraines on a regular basis).
I've always loved a high pixel density display. Its the main reason I left the 3Gs for the Nexus One, the reason I got the Xoom over the iPad2 (even though the Xoom had more pixel density it was no where near the quality display that Apple used on its iPad), and the main reason (paired with my new found hate of Android tablets after the Xoom and Prime) that I finally dumped Android for iOS when the retina iPad came out. I figured I could deal with iOS for the high pixel density display. What I found shocked the hell out of me. The iOS I left on the 3Gs was no where near the iOS on the retina iPad. Like you said in your post iOS is gorgeous and works great on the iPad. The iPhone is a little cramped and iOS def feels that it was designed to originally come on the iPad and not the iPhone. I love the apps, the display was the best I've ever used on any device, it was extremely fluid, and most of all it did not feel like I was using a tablet. What I mean is I always fought with using my Xoom and Prime. It felt as if I was scratching my fingers down a chalkboard whenever I swiped through screens (btw this is no where near the feeling i get on the Nexus 7). The iPad never fought with me it just got out of the way and gave me my content. It is genious and I still cannot see exactly what it is, but this is the best I can describe it.
Anyways, before the iPad I dumped my Tbolt for the HTC Trophy and waited for the Galaxy Nexus to be released. I used that and loved it. I still do. It is a completely different device and pure Google is the only way to go in my opinion and I dont forsee myself going back to a skinned device at least not how OEMs are treating them anyways. After my new iPad I decided to get an iPhone (I have always had two devices as I use my main device for personal things and my secondary for a side business I run with my brother and I didnt want customers having my personal line. I dont usually bring both with me every day except now). The iPhone was great and a good change, but Siri is the main reason I use it (and the other reasons I posted above).
Sorry this is so long. I dont blame ya if you dont read it lol. Have a great night and like I said if your still on the fence about the N7 just get it you wont regret it.
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tyrellcorpnexus said:
Yeah I appreciate your feedback as well.
I don't get why if you guys have one device collecting dust, why you'd hold onto it.
That was my original mentality to go between 4S and Nexus considering I got my 4S cheap and Nexus didn't break the bank. But realistically, I'm not gonna carry two phones at once, or a paper clip and rip apart both phones because I'm more in the mood for one than the other.
I think I preferred iPhone for the services it offered more than the phone itself (iMessage, though I have it on my iPad even though its apple ID and not phone number, but I have unlimited texts and I don't miss it much at all -- don't care if it says delivered or not, iTunes match although after a few major mishaps I feel like I should be refunded, and it transcodes audio if its not in the iTunes music store, Google Music uploads your collection as it is, which takes a while, but has its pluses too and the price is right).
The 4S camera is great, but I wanted to dabble with Android and Jelly Bean goodness, and I have a sneaking feeling I'll get a huge flagship phone at the end of the year that rocks the socks off that anyways.
And I'm into SLR photography.
4S is great, and SUPER fast, and with jailbreak mods, really enjoyable. But I think that small screen really hinders the experience, and I'm tired of the 4x4 layout after having all five iPhones.
I missed my iPhone a few days after selling it and was considering picking up another to SIM swap, then realized I didn't touch my iPhone once since having GNex. Maybe it was the novelty, but I've almost had it a month, and I'm immensely satisfied. And the huge mod community keeps me entertained as well.
And a new iPhone is just around the bend in case I ever want to dabble again. iOS 6 doesn't seem as competitive as iOS 5 was last year, its more severe catchup imo from what I've seen.
the iOS UI works great on tablet though. it'd be nice to have N7 as well, but I'm not as bothered by the "boring, old" UI on iPad for some reason.
And... I still have a 3GS in case I ever have iphone cravings, but even that's just been sitting on top of my drawer. So it seemed like having the cash instead of 4S was a good call.
And I never bought 4S for siri. I used it a few times, but I've already used Google Now like 3 x more than the 6 months I had 4S. I like that it has no charm, it shouldnt. Give me what I want so I can move on. If you can't answer a question, Google search is awesome. I don't need you to be cute, and I don't need an AI friend. That's just me though. neither are the MOST NECESSARY ever though. just nice additions.
And 4S (my familys') feels heavy after being used to juggling my Nexus.
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tyrellcorpnexus said:
Yeah for sure.
I love my MBA 2011 13" like no other. I've used Macs exclusively (well, with occasional XP on virtual machine for windows only hack tools but never for leisure) for photography and what I do for the past 8 years. And every iPhone. And every iPad (though I flipped my iPad 1 for iPad 2 once I could get my hands on one within weeks of having it, I didn't want a dinosaur dated tablet once A5 came out with 512 of RAM). It was nerve wrecking even giving Android a try. I almost returned it to sender for fear I wouldn't like it and have to eat the $50+ restocking fee from Samsung/Google.
But I bit the bullet and I am glad I did.
I went from "I've been way too curious to try android, now that its $350 no contract for a Nexus, no brainer and I'll swap 4S and Nexus interchangeably" to "I'm gonna not even bother" to "oh whatever" to "Nexus only" and awaiting to see what comes out in just a few months and taking it from there.
In a good spot
it also bothered me when Chrome came out for iOS, that it uses Safari engine due to App Store guidelines but with Chrome-ish UI. It's what I call "fake Chrome" and I went back to using Mobile Safari right away. I still am not sure how it's so popuar besides syncing up with Chrome bookmarks and history and such from desktop Chrome.
And agreed, Gmail app on Android is so much better than Mail app with Gmail in my opinion. Once my exchange server account expired, and I just redirected the alias to my gmail, I found Android integration better.
And I'm curious to see how Apple maps pans out, but I'm more frightened than anything. Turn by turn and Google maps on android is excellent. I can't imagine that being a big positive, getting rid of something I rely on quite a bit. At best, it'll be a "successful alternative"
Lightflow rocks so hard too. I wish iPhone had something comparable. Knowing whether I have SMS, missed call, Voicemail, or Gmail from the distance without picking it up.
The thing that concerns me about N7, aside from the fact I have an iPad3 and love it so much, is that apps aren't yet tablet ready or made-for-tablet. Though for $200, and given that its Nexus brand and its popularity will rapidly increase, I think it'll be a well solidified market in no time. Who knows, maybe I'll end up getting one. Just dual wielding tablets seems more ridiculous to me than dual wielding phones, a concept I was originally "gun hoe" about.
I really enjoy this interesting conversation/debate and I hope it continues. I'm an XDA noob but people here seem so tolerant or indifferent of others technology preferences (without atrributing the fanboy label), and it's so awesome.
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Yeah I am glad we had a chance to converse as well (even though I am sure that most others on this thread are bored lol). Its interesting to me as we are almost exactly opposite. Your coming from primarily iOS to Google's Android (dont even bother yourself with the skinned kind its no where near the same and will only frusterate you) and I'm coming from all Android to iOS. Whats more interesting is finding someone that is open to both sides of the fence. You dont find that often, but I wish others would try something before bashing an OS because of their love for another OS. You really miss out on some great tech and it took me going from one to the other to find that out.
Both OS have very great features and I wish I could just have one device that had all features, but we all know without competition neither Android or iOS would be what they are today. I'm kind of in dangerous territory right now as like I said I am heavily invested in both OS's. I really couldnt ever completely get rid of Android as I would miss the native Gmail application and especially the Google Maps. I havent really mentioned that, but your right it really is Android's killer feature and even though Apple is on the horizon of launching their own turn-by-turn solution I have doubts that it will be anywhere as good as Google Maps.
The main reason I use both devices right now is because I feel like I have to. The Nexus 7 has helped in that a little, but I need the LTE and the my Nexus' hotspot. I cant go back to 3G. It doesnt bother me a whole lot on the iPhone, but on my iPad or Nexus 7 I just feel like I have to have it. I know there are more less costly and convenient options than taking both the 4s for its phone, texting, music, siri, etc and my Nexus for Gmail, Google Maps, LTE, bigger display, rooting/roms, tinkering, openness, etc, but until a better solution comes a long I'm going to have to do just that. Also, like I said I do need both phones as I dont want to mix personal with business as that doesnt work too well especially when working full time and going to school 3/4 time, and then having a secondary business we run (even though the latter is suffering as I just dont have the time). All I know is that I am driving my wife completely nuts with all these devices lol.
Have a good night like I said its been interesting chatting with ya. Its rare to find someone on XDA that is even open to hearing about iOS even with the popularity of the iPad. I just hope that popularity brings more open people that arent so devoted to one brand that they completely refuse to listen to anything without feeling like they have to defend their phone or tablet choice to the death.
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"The thing that concerns me about N7, aside from the fact I have an iPad3 and love it so much, is that apps aren't yet tablet ready or made-for-tablet. Though for $200, and given that its Nexus brand and its popularity will rapidly increase, I think it'll be a well solidified market in no time. Who knows, maybe I'll end up getting one. Just dual wielding tablets seems more ridiculous to me than dual wielding phones, a concept I was originally "gun hoe" about."
I completely noticed I didnt even mention your concern about the above. This is exactly my only real problem with the Nexus 7. On my iPad I honestly dont have any iPhone apps on it only tablet optimized applications and on Android you just cant do that. The 7 inch form factor really makes this much easier to deal with. Even apps that are made for Android phones seem to work really well on the Nexus 7. There is still the lack of applications to deal with, but if you are like me you will most likely use your iPad for most applications anyway especially considering you can only get a measly 8 or 16gb on the Nexus 7. My justification of getting the N7 when I really cannot find a single fault with my iPad was that I read a lot and it is difficult reading on the iPad. Its heavy, awkward, and I just found myself not doing it or using a book instead. It was a little depressing as one of the main reasons I got an iPad was for reading. The Nexus 7 completely fills this void. It is lite and perfect for reading and is about the size of a smaller paperback book. The resolution is good enough not to bother you or give me headaches and it hard to put your finger on it, but it just feels right. I really like the seven inch form factor and I have found usages that I never even thought I would use. I loaded it up with emulators and it is perfect for those and about the only thing I really missed on my Xoom and Prime. Also I still have my OTG micro usb to USB cable I bought for my Xoom (I knew I kept it for a reason) and I can use it to hook up a PS3 controller to it and map the keys for emulators. It is great. One more thing I noticed as well. Loving my iPad means that I take it with me everywhere including work. I was always worried about dropping it or getting it stolen and it is kind of expensive. The Nexus 7 on the other hand is small (even fits in my back pocket or cargo shorts), easy to carry, and best of all is cheap enough that if I lost it or it was stolen I could recoup my losses and/or get me another one. Sure there are times at work on break or something that I wish I had my iPad, but the Nexus 7 does its job so well I often dont really care. I also rely heavily on a few apps like Dropbox, Twitter, and especially Evernote and the 7 inch form factor works excellent for all three and I am in sync with my iPad, Nexus 7, Macbook Pro, iPhone 4S, and Galaxy Nexus no matter where I am. Do yourself a favor and order one you wont regret it.
Whoah what a read...lol. Since you're so forthright I have to ask, exactly what kinds of tablet optimized apps are out there for iOS that aren't available for android? I'm interested myself since I had an iPad 2 that I gave to my wife in order to get an android tab for myself because I felt too restricted in what I could do with the iPad. I was looking for more work related things at the time (corporate email support, pdf editing, file level browsing, flash drive support etc.). It took a while but I understand there are now good PDF editing apps for iOS which there weren't a year or so ago. I'm kinda wondering now if there are things that would swing me back the other way, or at the very least things I should recommend to my wife.
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Got all 3 - Just sold on my ipad, glad to see the back of it. Just way too much hassle, all that itunes messing about.
Nexus 7 so far looking good.

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