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I just got an HTC Pure from AT&T but did not get a new SIM card or plan. I am planning to unlock the device to bypass the $30 per month charge for a data plan.
I currently am using an unlocked T-Mobile Dash (HTC S620) on AT&T's network.
I was wondering if there was any way to buy the $10 per month per phone data plan for myself, my brother, and my mom, then switch my SIM card to the unlocked Pure and have AT&T not recognize the new device.
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Could I simply switch the SIM card without unlocking and still get the $10 per month per phone data plan?
my friend if i can do so i would have done that long ago and gotten me a pure, but att and htc made plans that all 850 phones belongs to att. when u insert the sim into the phone no matter what the IMEI from the pure gets identified and the plan get switched over automatically.
only way to bypass that is by changing the IMEI of the phone, which is illegal and i dont know if it can be done
are you 100% sure? because I've gotten mixed answers between you, Yahoo Answers, and AT&T themselves
ATT said no??, yahoo said??? i say no
i know some ppl have gotten away with it by upgrading to a pure and stayed with the $10 data plan.
so if u would like to risk it go ahead
Actually the guy at AT&T said it may work. Yahoo said it did. I'm confused. What's the risk if I do get the data plan? Can I switch back to my old phone and get it taken off?
the risk i am talking about the automatic data plan activation, i have asked almost every ATT in miami if there is a way to get around it i have gotten the same answer NO
hmm, ok.
thanks for your help, I'm gonna go into an ATT store tomorrow to see if they can do anything. but I know what answer to expect now
They do not change your plan automatically.
I have had a HTC TILT, HTC FUZE, and am now with my HTC PURE.
I have the ATT data plan for 9.99 unlimited.
All I did was switch my sim to any ATT non PDA phone. Call att, have them add this feature. Then just slap on my sim on my HTC device.
That simple, have been doing it for years and even to my most recent bill I still have the 9.99 Media net plan.
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I just got an HTC Pure from AT&T but did not get a new SIM card or plan. I am planning to unlock the device to bypass the $30 per month charge for a data plan.
I currently am using an unlocked T-Mobile Dash (HTC S620) on AT&T's network.
I was wondering if there was any way to buy the $10 per month per phone data plan for myself, my brother, and my mom, then switch my SIM card to the unlocked Pure and have AT&T not recognize the new device.
OR
Could I simply switch the SIM card without unlocking and still get the $10 per month per phone data plan?
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TheChemist187 said:
They do not change your plan automatically.
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Yes. They do. I have experienced this with the iphone. I put my sim into an iphone and my plan changed to iphone data plan. I had to call ATT, tell them that I was just checking it out, and got it changed back.
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I have had a HTC TILT, HTC FUZE, and am now with my HTC PURE.
I have the ATT data plan for 9.99 unlimited.
All I did was switch my sim to any ATT non PDA phone. Call att, have them add this feature. Then just slap on my sim on my HTC device.
That simple, have been doing it for years and even to my most recent bill I still have the 9.99 Media net plan.
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I had a LG-VU with the $9.99 data plan.
I upgraded to the HTC Pure. When the box arrived, the first thing I did was to open the phone and remove the new sim that they had inserted into the phone. I put my old sim from the LG-VU and fired up the phone.
It is 3 months now and my data plan is still $9.99.
I been having the $9.99 plan since july and I have the HTC pure. My plan is 4 years old though and I started with a razr.
If you have an ooooold plan that you got through an offer or whatever.....then you are ok....new plans from about three years and before....you want to theter (without the 60 dollar plan) get ready for a 2k plus bill. Been there years ago. Not worth it
after 6 months with the phone, you can cancel data and even have them put a data block
or so i've been told, but unlocking wont allow you to remove it, you're breaking the contract that got you the phone for cheap (or free in my case)
can some1 explain to me wtf this is all about?
If i have a, let's say a Tmobile contract (or any other, AT&T, Vodafone, etc) and i am using "x" phone with this contract....and i buy a new phone, which is different, then why am i not allowed to just change phones? coz that seems to be your guys problem, correct?
are u stuck on one phone for your whole contract? and if u change to, say a better phone, they up your contract price?!?!?!?!? that's HARD to swallow over here in europe... but is that the case?
I have spent countless hours of research here and at howard forums. They will auto switch your plan if you have a Nexus one or a ATT branded smartphone. You would have to get a T-Mobile branded smartphone butt you will loose 3G or get a unbranded smartphone imported which will cost you a lot of mulah. I was looking at getting at HD2 form Australia so I can get the 850 band (3G) but that was selling for 600-800 bucks.
Good luck with your quest young one.
try this... keep an old basic phone lying around and IF they ever DO switch it, call AT&T (USING THE OLDER PHONE!!!) and tell them you borrowed a friends phone for a few weeks while yours was broken and to verify that you are no longer using a "smartphone" and to drop it back down to $10/mo. They should only do random sweeps and this might happen once every few months... Works for me!!
i tried doing the switch back to a non smart phone technique, yet everyday i would get a text saying att has upped my plan to a smart phone one, so now im out 20 bucks , same with iphone, although you could unlock it to get a 10 dollar plan
I guess I'm lucky then. When I called to get internet for my At&t 8525 (about 3 years ago) I asked for an unlimited plan. The representative added a $15 plan. Since then, I've upgraded to a Tilt and now I'm on a HTC Pure with the same plan.
Even with an unlocked iPhone they are still able to add the $30 plan, that is exactly what they did to me. It has to do with the ATT sim card not the phone itself.
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Yes. They do. I have experienced this with the iphone. I put my sim into an iphone and my plan changed to iphone data plan. I had to call ATT, tell them that I was just checking it out, and got it changed back.
I had a LG-VU with the $9.99 data plan.
I upgraded to the HTC Pure. When the box arrived, the first thing I did was to open the phone and remove the new sim that they had inserted into the phone. I put my old sim from the LG-VU and fired up the phone.
It is 3 months now and my data plan is still $9.99.
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Update:
ATT has now automatically switched me to the $30 data plan, for my convenience (ha!).
I took out the SIM and put it in another "feature" phone and I was given the option to use the $9.99 plan.
I selected that and switched the SIM back to the ATT Pure.
Guess what?
For my "convenience", ATT switched me back to the $30 data plan.
I'm sure there's been plenty of posts regarding this (and I'll probably get some flack from moderators), but I thought I should revisit this issue and get everyone's thoughts before I jump on the bandwagon.
Anyone here got the dreaded text, automatically switched, or loss data services altogether simply because you were using the AT&T $15 MediaNet plan? Or better yet, the $10 family plan?
I'm on the $15 plan that was originally used by a lowly 3G featurephone, and have never upgraded to a branded smartphone with AT&T. Just wondering if there are folks with my same situation who've taken the plunge into Nexus One waters. So...are you still swimming?
I've had the $4.99 T-Zones plan since 2008 and it still is going strong. I've never bought a subsidized phone. Not one single complaint. Not on AT&T obviously. Oops.
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I'm sure there's been plenty of posts regarding this (and I'll probably get some flack from moderators), but I thought I should revisit this issue and get everyone's thoughts before I jump on the bandwagon.
Anyone here got the dreaded text, automatically switched, or loss data services altogether simply because you were using the AT&T $15 MediaNet plan? Or better yet, the $10 family plan?
I'm on the $15 plan that was originally used by a lowly 3G featurephone, and have never upgraded to a branded smartphone with AT&T. Just wondering if there are folks with my same situation who've taken the plunge into Nexus One waters. So...are you still swimming?
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In short, your account needs to have smartphone exclusion on it to prevent your data plan from jumping to the $30 smartphone data plan. If it doesn't have this rare SOC code, it's difficult to get, and you won't be able to do much of anything to stop the change from happening.
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In short, your account needs to have smartphone exclusion on it to prevent your data plan from jumping to the $30 smartphone data plan. If it doesn't have this rare SOC code, it's difficult to get, and you won't be able to do much of anything to stop the change from happening.
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I'm aware of the smartphone exclusion status. But no one seems to have a clear answer as to "how" to get that status. Multiple stories abound: I've heard that you have to have had a smartphone with no data prior to Sept '09. I've also heard that folks who have a dumbphone (featurephone) with a 3G data plan ($15) are also excluded because they've never upgraded to a branded smartphone thru ATT. I'm on the latter situation. Does anyone here used to be on the $15 MediaNet+dumbphone combo and are now using a Nexus One?
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I'm aware of the smartphone exclusion status. But no one seems to have a clear answer as to "how" to get that status. Multiple stories abound: I've heard that you have to have had a smartphone with no data prior to Sept '09. I've also heard that folks who have a dumbphone (featurephone) with a 3G data plan ($15) are also excluded because they've never upgraded to a branded smartphone thru ATT. I'm on the latter situation. Does anyone here used to be on the $15 MediaNet+dumbphone combo and are now using a Nexus One?
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If it helps, I never purchased ANY phone through AT&T since I started service with them in mid-2008 since I always used unlocked phones and I still got hit with the text. The only reason I have the smartphone exclusion is because I called AT&T when they switched my data plan automatically and pitched a huge fit. I still can't get them to add it to the other line on my account.
So I guess try to talk to the customer "solutions" team about canceling your service and see if they'll add it for you?
I am using AT&T Nexus One from the day they were out (about 3 weeks now), I am still on $10 family MediaNet plan.
I have never bought smartphone from AT&T, perhaps that is the reason, or they haven't done their sweep yet.
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If it helps, I never purchased ANY phone through AT&T since I started service with them in mid-2008 since I always used unlocked phones and I still got hit with the text. The only reason I have the smartphone exclusion is because I called AT&T when they switched my data plan automatically and pitched a huge fit. I still can't get them to add it to the other line on my account.
So I guess try to talk to the customer "solutions" team about canceling your service and see if they'll add it for you?
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That makes sense. But have you, or ever, upgraded your plan from a $15 to a $30 plan, and then back down to $15? (Or something to that effect.) I'm just wondering that since you never bought a device from them, a change in your data plan might also trigger the auto-switch? Just covering all bases how an auto-switch (or change in the smartphone exclusion status) can be triggered by either device upgrade or data plan upgrade thru AT&T.
rome425 said:
I am using AT&T Nexus One from the day they were out (about 3 weeks now), I am still on $10 family MediaNet plan.
I have never bought smartphone from AT&T, perhaps that is the reason, or they haven't done their sweep yet.
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Excellent! Good luck on that. Please keep us posted if the status on your data ever changes. I'm gonna try using the N1 under the $15 MediaNet and see how much mileage I can get out of it.
Well; I have some bad news for you guys that think your getting lucky by tricking them.
At&t does not have this phone registered in their system. So if you call them and have them change the IMEI number to reflect this phone, it will come up as unknown. So the only option they have for a data plan is the $15 plan ($10 if you have a family plan).
The only reason why I know this: I came from an iPhone to this, so I had to call them and change the IMEI number.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but as long as At&t does not register this in their system, we will get the cheaper plan.
And usually, unless they sell it, they won't register it. So we are good to go for the life of this phone.
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Well; I have some bad news for you guys that think your getting lucky by tricking them.
At&t does not have this phone registered in their system. So if you call them and have them change the IMEI number to reflect this phone, it will come up as unknown. So the only option they have for a data plan is the $15 plan ($10 if you have a family plan).
The only reason why I know this: I came from an iPhone to this, so I had to call them and change the IMEI number.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but as long as At&t does not register this in their system, we will get the cheaper plan.
And usually, unless they sell it, they won't register it. So we are good to go for the life of this phone.
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You should have a look at: AT&T automatically addining $30 Smartphone Data plan to the unbranded Nexus 1!?
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That makes sense. But have you, or ever, upgraded your plan from a $15 to a $30 plan, and then back down to $15? (Or something to that effect.) I'm just wondering that since you never bought a device from them, a change in your data plan might also trigger the auto-switch? Just covering all bases how an auto-switch (or change in the smartphone exclusion status) can be triggered by either device upgrade or data plan upgrade thru AT&T.
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I'm glad you asked because I did buy two 3GS's from them and flipped them on eBay for a ridiculous profit. I had to call AT&T right after I bought them to have them remove the smartphone data plan since I wasn't using the iPhones anymore.
This could be part of the reason why my account triggered the change.
I have been on a grandfathered-in mediaworks package for ~8 years now ($20 for unlimited data, 1500sms and 200mms). AT&T has never once changed my plan on me and they never will. I'm out of contact
I had the T-Mobile version on ATT shortly after the tmobile versions launch. I was using the 10$ medianet plan for about a week until I got the dreaded text. I thought it was a glitch so I went online and changed it back. A few minutes later, I got the text again. I sold my nexus and bought a milestone until the ATT version came out. I came to the conclusion that I would pay for the 30$ smartphone plan if I was using the ATT version because I would be getting 3G. I just got the ATT version in today and havnt switched plans yet. My buddy works for ATT and asked for my IMEI number to get credit for the switch from medianet to smartphone plan. He called me back saying that my new ATT nexus' IMEI number wasn't registering meaning I could use the media net plan. There have been some rumors that ATT put a cap on the speeds of the media net plan, so he asked me to run a speed test. My speeds show that I was getting normal 3g speeds for my area(786 dl). Ill post again if ATT gets ahold of this batch of IMEI numbers and auto adds the smartphone plan.
nephroid said:
I've had the $4.99 T-Zones plan since 2008 and it still is going strong. I've never bought a subsidized phone. Not one single complaint. Not on AT&T obviously. Oops.
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Do you get 3G with t-zones?
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I had the T-Mobile version on ATT shortly after the tmobile versions launch. I was using the 10$ medianet plan for about a week until I got the dreaded text. I thought it was a glitch so I went online and changed it back. A few minutes later, I got the text again. I sold my nexus and bought a milestone until the ATT version came out. I came to the conclusion that I would pay for the 30$ smartphone plan if I was using the ATT version because I would be getting 3G. I just got the ATT version in today and havnt switched plans yet. My buddy works for ATT and asked for my IMEI number to get credit for the switch from medianet to smartphone plan. He called me back saying that my new ATT nexus' IMEI number wasn't registering meaning I could use the media net plan. There have been some rumors that ATT put a cap on the speeds of the media net plan, so he asked me to run a speed test. My speeds show that I was getting normal 3g speeds for my area(786 dl). Ill post again if ATT gets ahold of this batch of IMEI numbers and auto adds the smartphone plan.
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Excellent! That definitely got me on the bandwagon. Just ordered the N1 and should be getting it Wednesday. I'll keep ya'll posted with the hopes that the IMEI batch for these new N1's will be kept hidden from ATT. Good luck to all!
GldRush98 said:
I have been on a grandfathered-in mediaworks package for ~8 years now ($20 for unlimited data, 1500sms and 200mms). AT&T has never once changed my plan on me and they never will. I'm out of contact
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Incredible! Grandfathered plans are always the best. How long have you had your N1?
I'm confused... Why were you guys giving att the imei #s? I bought my tmobile version unlocked through google and never had to let tmo know... I just dropped my SIM card in from my G1 and went on my way.
So how much data do you guys get for $15?
liam.lah said:
So how much data do you guys get for $15?
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UNLIMITED*
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*5 gigs
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So how much data do you guys get for $15?
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Tons. Lotsa lotsa tons.
I was considering the G2 until of course all the rooting fiascos. But now that it has been permrooted for good, I'm considering picking one up. You can find one for 350ish on craigslist, so I'm thinking about it.
Anyone else?
No thank you. with gingerbread coming out soon. why would anyone not stick with the N1?
Honestly I think gingerbread is going to be a severe disappointment. I think it will be a bunch of bug fixes and maybe one or 2 features that most people won't care about. But that's another discussion.
The only thing keeping me away from the G2 is my uncertainty about a blinking notification. I know that the "ring" around the trackpad lights up, but if it works the same way that it does on stock nexus (meaning one blink in every 15 seconds), I'm gonna be really mad. Other than that I like the phone, I like the styling.
Well I will only be buying AWS nonbranded Tmobile phones like the Nexus so i can take advantage of $10 unlimited data. That $15 difference is $360 in savings over 2 years. G2 isnt worth the price hike for me.
For anyone on the $25 or $30 data, I would suggest getting on the $10 web2go asap before tmobile switches to the tiered plans. All you have to do is go into your account and change your device and pick any dumbphone. Then go into APN settings and put in internet2.voicestream.com
I have still yet to see a phone come out that makes me even consider getting rid of my nexus. Every day at work I have to help friends with less open android devices accomplish things that take mere seconds on this hacker-friendly handset. Sure, there are some phones with slightly better hardware now... but what fun is a phone that doesn't let you tweak it to your heart's content? For me, I will stick with the N1 over the G2.
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Well I will only be buying AWS nonbranded Tmobile phones like the Nexus so i can take advantage of $10 unlimited data. That $15 difference is $360 in savings over 2 years. G2 isnt worth the price hike for me.
For anyone on the $25 or $30 data, I would suggest getting on the $10 web2go asap before tmobile switches to the tiered plans. All you have to do is go into your account and change your device and pick any dumbphone. Then go into APN settings and put in internet2.voicestream.com
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Thanks! I just did that. My bill is now 20 dollars lower. Although it was just called Unlimited Web for phones. I hope it's the right one that I chose.
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Well I will only be buying AWS nonbranded Tmobile phones like the Nexus so i can take advantage of $10 unlimited data. That $15 difference is $360 in savings over 2 years. G2 isnt worth the price hike for me.
For anyone on the $25 or $30 data, I would suggest getting on the $10 web2go asap before tmobile switches to the tiered plans. All you have to do is go into your account and change your device and pick any dumbphone. Then go into APN settings and put in internet2.voicestream.com
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Doesn't T-mobile eventually send you a message telling you that you're required to upgrade your data plan because they've figured out that you're on a smartphone?
I was looking to buy a HD7 (my HD2 died), and it looks like if I get a 2 year contract extension I can get one for $199 (after $50 mail in rebate). I currently use the $5.99 tzones, and it is not asking me sign up for a Web Service yet. This is what it actually says when I go to check out:
This phone requires a Web service in order to access the Internet, e-mail, and more. After you receive your new phone, you’ll need to visit My T-Mobile to add a Web service.
So, do you think that means that I can still use tzones? Thanks!
I'm assuming that your 5.99 tzone plan is grandfathered, correct?
Since you said that you are using your 2 year upgrade extension, I believe that tmobile will force you to upgrade to the 30 dollar data plan regardless if you buy it in store or online. The only way I know in which you don't have to buy the 30 dollar data plan is if you buy the the phone outright.
When I upgraded to my hd7, tmobile required that I have the 30 dollar data plan and not my grandfathered plan.
Yes, that is what I was talking about. It was just strange that the Tmobile website is not "forcing" me to chose the $30 plan until after I receive the phone.
Actually, when you order from the mobile website, at check out it will tell you which data plan you want; the 200mb or the unlimited..
I actually bought my HD7 from BestBuy & I had the $10 unlimited internet on the phone I had before I ugraded. When I bought my HD7 the guy was like, Oh! You already have the $10 unlimited internet, did you want to keep that or get the $30? I asked if it was going to stay unlimited & he said yes. So I kept it! There was a T-Mobile rep next to him & she said that the $10 one works with ALL smartphones.
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I actually bought my HD7 from BestBuy & I had the $10 unlimited internet on the phone I had before I ugraded. When I bought my HD7 the guy was like, Oh! You already have the $10 unlimited internet, did you want to keep that or get the $30? I asked if it was going to stay unlimited & he said yes. So I kept it! There was a T-Mobile rep next to him & she said that the $10 one works with ALL smartphones.
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u are lucky to get a rep who didn't add it without your permission.
I went ahead and purchased it and they never asked me to change my plan. I'm crossing my fingers it stays that way.
Just so you all know, I just received my phone. I did purchase through tmobile.com and did NOT have to upgrade my plan from tzones to the $30 plan. I received it today and it is working great!
Just a heads-up for those who want to upgrade to this phone w/ grandfathered t-zones... I went to bestbuy.com and chose upgrade for this phone and they only charged me $99 for the phone and only asked if I have a compatible data plan (which is t-zones of course) and had me check-out without forcing me the $30/$15 data plan - that was more than a month ago. T-zones has been working like a charm, letting me watch netflix and t-mobile tv without hiccups and of course all the other data requiring programs. Checking out my speed at "mobile speed test" downloading 2mb had me pegged at 6mbps in North Jersey area. I just got my bill and t-mobile just charged me $18 upgrade fee - and that's it. All the other services remain the same! I don't know if it's still working but for those who want to upgrade it's worth to try.
pierce97, can you confirm if T-zones is still working on your HTC HD7? Thanks.
My hd7 is still working with T-Zones... and whenever I visit mytmobile there's nothing on my data downloads even though I have been watvhing a lot of Netflix and Youtube!!!
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pierce97, can you confirm if T-zones is still working on your HTC HD7? Thanks.
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Yes, it works without any problems!
Windows Mobile & Windows Phone Devices
July 21, 2011 - Okay...let me lay this to rest... Windows Mobile 5.x, 6.x devices have been accessing the Internet long before Apple, Android and Blackberry showed up on the scene; despite it now occupying less than 5% of the devices used; it remains legacy for any of us who continue to use the OS to include Windows Phone 7. There may be some loyal and longtime customers of T-Mobile using other devices; the general rule is if you are on a grandfather data plan like T-Zones and you're using a Windows device; you're good to go. Please note the web site says Web Service; it does not clarify what type as others devices does. I use a Rhodium and T-Zones performs perfect at 3G speeds where 3G is available. I plan to upgrade to the HD2 which multiple OSs to include WP7 can be flashed and continue with T-Zones; however I have talked to Tier 2/3...PDA/RIM support and have been told as long as you stick to Windows devices you may remain in T-Zones...whether it's unlimited, I don't care...I think data plans are reaching the realm of the ridiculous when it comes to prices...though I don't use mine as my main internet connection.
Annoyed. Got the dreaded ATT text that I wasn't using the correct data plan for the nexus 4. Was using it on $10 non smart data plan.
AT&T Free Msg: Did you know a data plan is required for your Smartphone? We have added an appropriate data plan. Learn more at www.att.com/dataplans.
Online management shows phone as being unrecognized but they apparently know the phone is a smartphone.
Even the email I got from ATT says
"For whatever reason, our records indicate your Smartphone does not have an eligible data plan. We have added an appropriate Smartphone data plan for your device"
So unlike the Galaxy nexus, ATT does force the $30 data plan. I guess the LG Optimus G is so similar to the Nexus 4 ATT can see it as a smartphone.
It's weird cause the international Galaxy S3 was never recognized on my account when I had it on the $10 data plan.
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Annoyed. Got the dreaded ATT text that I wasn't using the correct data plan for the nexus 4. Was using it on $10 non smart data plan.
AT&T Free Msg: Did you know a data plan is required for your Smartphone? We have added an appropriate data plan. Learn more at www.att.com/dataplans.
Online management shows phone as being unrecognized but they apparently know the phone is a smartphone.
Even the email I got from ATT says
"For whatever reason, our records indicate your Smartphone does not have an eligible data plan. We have added an appropriate Smartphone data plan for your device"
So unlike the Galaxy nexus, ATT does force the $30 data plan. I guess the LG Optimus G is so similar to the Nexus 4 ATT can see it as a smartphone.
It's weird cause the international Galaxy S3 was never recognized on my account when I had it on the $10 data plan.
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Is that legal for them to change your Data package and charge you more money without a notice period first?
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altimax98 said:
Is that legal for them to change your Data package and charge you more money without a notice period first?
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I think it's in the contract that they can do whatever they want, up to and including selling you into slavery for bitcoins to pay your overdue bill. This is AT&T. They have no morals.
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
aneftp said:
Annoyed. Got the dreaded ATT text that I wasn't using the correct data plan for the nexus 4. Was using it on $10 non smart data plan.
AT&T Free Msg: Did you know a data plan is required for your Smartphone? We have added an appropriate data plan. Learn more at www.att.com/dataplans.
Online management shows phone as being unrecognized but they apparently know the phone is a smartphone.
Even the email I got from ATT says
"For whatever reason, our records indicate your Smartphone does not have an eligible data plan. We have added an appropriate Smartphone data plan for your device"
So unlike the Galaxy nexus, ATT does force the $30 data plan. I guess the LG Optimus G is so similar to the Nexus 4 ATT can see it as a smartphone.
It's weird cause the international Galaxy S3 was never recognized on my account when I had it on the $10 data plan.
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I got the same text message from them yesterday. I promptly called them back and had them put me back on the $10 data plan. The CSR I spoke to said their system periodically reviews activity on your sim card. If they detect "smartphone type" activity they will switch your plan. I told them nothing about my phone has changed( I've been on MediaNet since getting my N4) and told them its a basic phone(thats what the N4 IMEI comes up as in their system). They had no problem putting me back on MediaNet plan.
I would call them and tell them to put you back on $10 data plan
What is crap about at&t is their is no benefit to owning your own phone. Honestly we shouldn't have to pay as much for data because they aren't subsidizing our phones, but on at&t there isn't much benefit in buying your own phone because you pay the same regardless.
IMO if you subsidized your phone after 2 years and don't bite on early upgrading you should get a discount. And early termination should just be the remaining cost of your subsidized phone. Thats how it should work and fwiw smartphone /dumb phone data plans are stupid too, because it like your ISP deciding to charge you more because you use Firefox instead of ie.
But what can you do really? The only carrier that does it right is T mobile, and they are the bottom of the barrel in coverage. At&t makes way more money on subsidizing phones, only way for things to improve is to kill subsidizing, then carriers will be forced to use the same bands and have to compete on pricing. I think subsidizing is long outdated personally and it time to sell phones like every other consumer electronic.
I mean with the nexus 4 wait for instance I've found I am kind of forced to deal with it because every other comparable phone is like $550, and every sale on has an asterix that states "after 2 year commitment".
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estallings15 said:
I think it's in the contract that they can do whatever they want, up to and including selling you into slavery for bitcoins to pay your overdue bill. This is AT&T. They have no morals.
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
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They may have NO morals, but another thing they DON'T have is the N4 IMEI #
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What is crap about at&t is their is no benefit to owning your own phone. Honestly we shouldn't have to pay as much for data because they aren't subsidizing our phones, but on at&t there isn't much benefit in buying your own phone because you pay the same regardless.
IMO if you subsidized your phone after 2 years and don't bite on early upgrading you should get a discount. And early termination should just be the remaining cost of your subsidized phone. Thats how it should work and fwiw smartphone /dumb phone data plans are stupid too, because it like your ISP deciding to charge you more because you use Firefox instead of ie.
But what can you do really? The only carrier that does it right is T mobile, and they are the bottom of the barrel in coverage. At&t makes way more money on subsidizing phones, only way for things to improve is to kill subsidizing, then carriers will be forced to use the same bands and have to compete on pricing. I think subsidizing is long outdated personally and it time to sell phones like every other consumer electronic.
I mean with the nexus 4 wait for instance I've found I am kind of forced to deal with it because every other comparable phone is like $550, and every sale on has an asterix that states "after 2 year commitment".
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T-Mobile's coverage isn't THAT bad, especially if you stick to more populated areas.
You're right on the subsidy, if I was on AT&T I would buy the most popular high end smartphone every time I was eligible for an upgrade and then sell it on ebay.
OP Just call back your company and say what post number 4 says
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T-Mobile's coverage isn't THAT bad, especially if you stick to more populated areas.
You're right on the subsidy, if I was on AT&T I would buy the most popular high end smartphone every time I was eligible for an upgrade and then sell it on ebay.
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After I get my n4 I might grab a prepaid Tmobile sim just to try it out for a month or so. I can grab the same deal I have on at&t and get unlimited data too for only a $100 a month, nearly $70 leas than what I pay from at&t now so worth a try
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Annoyed. Got the dreaded ATT text that I wasn't using the correct data plan for the nexus 4. Was using it on $10 non smart data plan.
AT&T Free Msg: Did you know a data plan is required for your Smartphone? We have added an appropriate data plan. Learn more at www.att.com/dataplans.
Online management shows phone as being unrecognized but they apparently know the phone is a smartphone.
Even the email I got from ATT says
"For whatever reason, our records indicate your Smartphone does not have an eligible data plan. We have added an appropriate Smartphone data plan for your device"
So unlike the Galaxy nexus, ATT does force the $30 data plan. I guess the LG Optimus G is so similar to the Nexus 4 ATT can see it as a smartphone.
It's weird cause the international Galaxy S3 was never recognized on my account when I had it on the $10 data plan.
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They can see your user agent when you are browsing using a mobile data connection. That's how they used try to catch people using tethering. It's mostly idiotic because requesting desktop versions of sites causes mobile browsers to fake the UA. They can probably also see traffic from other Google apps such as play store since they use specific ports. My guess is this would have eventually happened on your GNex as well.
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They can see your user agent when you are browsing using a mobile data connection. That's how they used try to catch people using tethering. It's mostly idiotic because requesting desktop versions of sites causes mobile browsers to fake the UA. They can probably also see traffic from other Google apps such as play store since they use specific ports. My guess is this would have eventually happened on your GNex as well.
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Sorry, this is wrong. Tmo DOES look at user agent to block tethering, Att sweeps imeis. Samsung phones are nice because you can " fake" a generic imei by simply erasing (after backup) the efs folder.
FWIW, my solution was a bit different. When I got on their network my goal was basically to grandfather and future proof the hell out of my account. I activated an edge iPhone first (back before they shut down the loop hole), then the same day called in with an atrix imei, then a few months later with a skyrocket imei to go from edge unlimited, to 4g hspa+ unlimited, finally to lte unlimited plan. All genuine smartphone plans and thus subject to grandfathering. In addition anytime I use the wap.cingular apn on my lte plan it doesn't count against my 5gb throttle limit giving me TRUE unlimited (though wap.cingular tops out at a very usable 7.4mbps vs 21 on " phone"). I intentionally skipped the media net plan just for the better "guarantee" of keeping my plan down the road since I KNOW att is a bunch of douchebags.
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I just got placed on the Data Pro plan as well and called up customer service. Our phones get recognized as LG E960, which is in fact the model number for the Nexus 4.
I asked them to switch me back and that I'm using a dumb phone, but they kept me on hold for 10 min and I just hung up. I'm not sure if my plan will revert to MEdia Net.
Is anyone else getting their connection dropped within the first few seconds of data use? It happens to me when I start a speed test or try to listen to NPR. It doesn't always happen, but it does very frequently and I have to wait to reestablish network connectivity. Usually I have to reboot the phone because the app won't reestablish connection even though the phone status states that it has.
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I just got placed on the Data Pro plan as well and called up customer service. Our phones get recognized as LG E960, which is in fact the model number for the Nexus 4.
I asked them to switch me back and that I'm using a dumb phone, but they kept me on hold for 10 min and I just hung up. I'm not sure if my plan will revert to MEdia Net.
Is anyone else getting their connection dropped within the first few seconds of data use? It happens to me when I start a speed test or try to listen to NPR. It doesn't always happen, but it does very frequently and I have to wait to reestablish network connectivity. Usually I have to reboot the phone because the app won't reestablish connection even though the phone status states that it has.
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Connection problems are the proxy in your apn, just remove it and you'll be good.
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estallings15 said:
I think it's in the contract that they can do whatever they want, up to and including selling you into slavery for bitcoins to pay your overdue bill. This is AT&T. They have no morals.
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
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I don't think AT&T moral is the only one being questioned here, regardless of what AT&T decides to charge, last I check, regardless of AT&T having its IMEI or not, the N4 is technically and practically a smartphone. Not that I have a problem with it, its ATT after all, they are charging my dad for land phone services they didn't install correctly which we canceled. I do have a problem with having a separate tethering plan above the data plan, still do not understand why the FCC and European Commission are fine with this. It's would be similar to Evian selling you water bottles to drink from, but its illegal to use it to water your plants or anything else unless you pay them extra.
estallings15 said:
I think it's in the contract that they can do whatever they want, up to and including selling you into slavery for bitcoins to pay your overdue bill. This is AT&T. They have no morals.
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
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How can you lie to AT&T about what kind of phone you have yet accuse them of having no morals ? Getting something without paying for it is called theft. Yes I think they are charging too much but, I have a choice on who I use for service.
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I don't think AT&T moral is the only one being questioned here, regardless of what AT&T decides to charge, last I check, regardless of AT&T having its IMEI or not, the N4 is technically and practically a smartphone. Not that I have a problem with it, its ATT after all, they are charging my dad for land phone services they didn't install correctly which we canceled. I do have a problem with having a separate tethering plan above the data plan, still do not understand why the FCC and European Commission are fine with this. It's would be similar to Evian selling you water bottles to drink from, but its illegal to use it to water your plants or anything else unless you pay them extra.
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LOL So True!
amcplus5 said:
How can you lie to AT&T about what kind of phone you have yet accuse them of having no morals ? Getting something without paying for it is called theft. Yes I think they are charging too much but, I have a choice on who I use for service.
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Honestly, I wasn't referring to that. I was thinking about the way they've treated every single person I know who has service with them over the last few years. I do agree that trying to break the rules is no bueno. Doesn't remove any of their slime, though.
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
OP here. Ended up selling Nexus 4 with bumper for $400. Easy sell on Craigslist. Like I said, basically sold it for at cost. Really don't care about making a small profit in the phone.
I called earlier to get the $30 data pro off my account. The CSR said she could add the $10 data plan back on but if ATT see I am using a smartphone it will re add it again.
I am already paying $30 for my unlimited grandfathered LTE iPhone 5 (throttled at 5GB with ATT).
I also have a spare line on my brothers Verizon account that I pay him $45 total. I have a grandfathered unlimited LTE Verizon data plan. I don't even use the phone. I put it in my Verizon LTE iPad and Verizon cannot audit me cause of their FCC agreement. That's why Verizon is forcing people off their unlimited LTE data cause Verizon cannot throttle LTE devices and cannot stop people from moving LTE sims between tablet or cell phone devices.
So I just can't justify paying another $30 data plan on my spare ATT line for the nexus 4. It's a great phone (minus the camera). And I recommend the nexus 4 to all of my friends (who aren't obsessed with their iPhones).
I have been with Cingular /ATT for 9 years so know the ins and outs. Unfortunately we consumers are not getting the greatest value with post paid carriers. The big 3 all know there is close to zero profit in minutes anymore. That's why they essentially give minutes away for free these days.
Data is the only true money maker for carriers these days and they want to maximize profits.
I am not a data hogger by any means. I maybe used 300mb in 2 1/2 weeks with the nexus 4. I don't tether either. If ATT offered a sensible (say 500 mb/$10 data plan) I could reason to keep it. But we all know the game the carriers play. $20/300mb is quite ridiculous.
They know the "average" customer uses around 500-700mb data each month. That's why they set the teaser 300mb/$20. Only light users can be on the 300mb smartphone data plan.
On a bright note. My Verizon LTE data is truly unlimited. I let my 2 year old rack up 5-10GB data on the iPad each month without worries. I've heard some Verizon LTE data user go over 200GB a month cause the Verizon iPad can be used as its own hotspot with LTE.
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Sorry, this is wrong. Tmo DOES look at user agent to block tethering, Att sweeps imeis. Samsung phones are nice because you can " fake" a generic imei by simply erasing (after backup) the efs folder.
FWIW, my solution was a bit different. When I got on their network my goal was basically to grandfather and future proof the hell out of my account. I activated an edge iPhone first (back before they shut down the loop hole), then the same day called in with an atrix imei, then a few months later with a skyrocket imei to go from edge unlimited, to 4g hspa+ unlimited, finally to lte unlimited plan. All genuine smartphone plans and thus subject to grandfathering. In addition anytime I use the wap.cingular apn on my lte plan it doesn't count against my 5gb throttle limit giving me TRUE unlimited (though wap.cingular tops out at a very usable 7.4mbps vs 21 on " phone"). I intentionally skipped the media net plan just for the better "guarantee" of keeping my plan down the road since I KNOW att is a bunch of douchebags.
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Funny that they have the IMEI as it's not an att phone. Yeah tmo was doing the UA sniffing. I assumed att might as well. It seemed they stopped doing it as they have never stopped me from tethering. I pay for data what does it matter how just throttle me when I get to your limit.
I got the message too today morning. I went back to my original smartphone plan of 2 GB since I was never using more than 1 GB. Also the speeds and ping is better on the 'phone' APN of AT&T as compared to the 'cingular' APN.