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I purchased the motorola HS850 a couple of days ago, seems pretty good paired up sraight away.
Problems are as follows.
The BT headset can't be used as a microphone for recording your voice, and/or giving commands to Voice Command software!!! Also i cant work out what pressing the button once quickly when not on the phone does. On normal mobiles you can announce a voice tag and it will dial the number. On the PPC (XDAIIs) it changes the icon of just headphones next to the start menu to headphones with audio coming out. Any ideas what this does? seems to create a connection to the decice, but still does not pick up audio from the BT mic!! One last thing is, on normal mobiles the HS picks up button presses etc, throught the BT speaker. No it doesn't even do that with PPC WM2003SE!!!
So in short the unit is pretty useless apart from answering calls by tapping the button on the headset. Kind of defeats the idea of a Btooth headset. Surely you would want to dial out using its built in mic? Am i just been stupid here, or should any of the above work?
Any workarounds or software that will work with BT Headsets? If not does anyone want to buy this from me for a fair price??? I mean what is the point? Can people tell me there postive uses please, or explain what im doing wrong!!! Surely if a crappy £50 mobile can utilize the features a £250 ppc should be able to, i mean come on!!
Anyone? I'm sure someone out there knows a little more about this than me? Im after some info!!!
I guess the answer is to buy the one designed for the device from O2?
As far as i know from the research i have done, it doesn't matter what h/set you have got!!
Matt
You are unfortunately right that ypu cannot control Microsoft Voice or therefore autodial with ANY headset at present. This is apparently due to the Widcomm Stack implementation (They haven't coded that part yet!).
Most users will also have difficulty with (System) sounds from the IIs presented on the headset. I believe that the new High Quality Stereo Stack has now been implemented but works with only a few headsets.
Where can the new stack be found from? or is it the 3900 stack?
I was led to believe it is in the 3900 stack but there was a CAB file floating around a while back for it (Never tried it myself so can't be of much more help I'm afraid!)
Thanks bebbo, anyone got further information on this problem at all?> I would like to get to the bottom of it, as their are hundreds of these kinda posts around all with no definative answer....Come on lets solve this and put an end to peoples suffering..... (MINE TOO!! )
Anyway, please post any information you know!!
At this time there are NO headsets that provide this function that I am aware of. If you highlight a contact,you can push and hold the headset button until it beeps and it will dial that contact.I was considering switching to the Nokia 9500, but it does not have that function either.
Maybe in the future,but not right now........Later
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Thanks bebbo, anyone got further information on this problem at all?> I would like to get to the bottom of it, as their are hundreds of these kinda posts around all with no definative answer....Come on lets solve this and put an end to peoples suffering..... (MINE TOO!! )
Anyway, please post any information you know!!
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Is this a rant or do I have valid questions? I guess the moderators will decide.
I have done a bit of searching here and on Google about: Vlingo, GoogleVoice Talk, Samsung powered by Vlingo on the GNote and I cannot believe I am not catching more hits about others “complaining” about the inconsistent behavior and general unreliability of voice control on Android and the Gnote in particular.
Add Bluetooth to the mix and it becomes MOST frustrating. I use a PlantronicsVoyager Pro+ headset.
I long push the BT headset button and never know what to expect; will it work this time, will it not?
· When I get a response from the phone, by that Imean the phone switches to the voice control app, It sometimes announces how many missed calls I have and then prompts me “voice talk is ready” or at other times “Vlingo is ready”. Sometimes it just announces how many calls I missed and goes no further, at other times after announcing the number of missed calls it will continue on to state that “it” is ready at which point I can say “Call blahblah at home” etc.
· Many times the phone just does not react at all as if I did not long push the button on my BT headset even though in Settings> BT settings on the phone it shows that the headset is paired.
· Some days, when the line item above occurs, I click on my “paired” BT headset listed in BT Settings and I can hear the acknowledgement tone in my ear “The Voyager also has a voice that states “Phone 1 connected “ and then I can initiate a call via BT. After I end the call the connection to my BT headset drops off again and I cannot initiate another BT session unless I again tap on the paired BT headset listed in BT settings..
· I can often resolve these issues by either powering off\on the BT headset or by rebooting the phone.
· Again, without changing any settings in Vlingo,Voice Talk or with BT settings; Some days I get an announcement that I have a new TXT message (in my headset and via the speaker which of course to me should be either\or but not both, sometimes the announcement tells me who sent the TXT msg. and speaks out the message that was sent, other days I don’t even get an audible notification.I am NOT making any changes to any of the settings at this point.
· Somewhere in the settings section of the phone,Vlingo or is it voice talk I was able to select a specific sound to play for incoming TXT messages which I have yet to hear played when a TXT msg. is received.
Oh and yes, there is a difference in the way things behave based on if the phone is charging or not or if the screen is off or not.
I also find it rather confusing with the various settings that control all this being spread across numerous different settings screens. By that I mean Android has a settings> Voice input and output” page Vlingo has its settings pages, Voice Talk as well and who the hell knows which one has president over the other, or which program is going to do your bidding, etc.
All very confusing and unfocused IMO.
I wonder if anyone at Samsung, Vlingo or Google for that matter has tried to use this “Voice activated solution” on a daily basis.
I’d like to see the chairman of Samsung, Geesung Choi, give this a go and hear his opinion on all this as Samsung has gotten into bed with Vlingo on the GNote to the point where you cannot disable it.
I come from Windows Mobile and MS Voice Command which obviously is not in the same league as these solutions, nor with Apples Siri BUT for what MSVC was, it was reliable and one could count on being able to use voice control over BT and expect it to make a damn phone call or tell you the correct time without sending you to a website.
I am not sorry for the rant here!
It seems to me that the Android OS, these third party voice solutions and the whole thing needs to be more cohesively integrated within the OS and the various apps (email, messaging, calling, etc.) and implemented in such a way that it simply works reliably!
I know that some of the inconsistencies I list above may be due to a variety of causes. HW, SW, BT stack, Voice Apps, etc. and not to forget pilot error (me). But we are dealing with a great phone, a highly configurable OS and a great BT headset and the results are less than stellar here.
We are upon ICS and if this stuff does not “come together” in its implementation and become much less fragmented and confusing on how to configure the mess of settings, Google should not be surprised to see many people choose the iPhone because no matter what one thinks of the iPhone, it isv ery consistent and cohesively thought out and gives the end user a feeling that I wish I had, and no I am not a fanboy of the iPhone, I am simply statinga fact that many people would agree with.
“It simply works”.
Not to lose sight that I am asking questions here:
Am I the only one experiencing these inconsistencies and frustrations?
Am I the only one who sees these settings spread out all over the place as less than ideal?
Do we have to accept that Android is an open environemt to mean a lack of consistency in the way apps are configured and customized?
Is everyone just "dealing with it" and willing to accept this as status quo?
AND PLEASE DO NOT FLAME ME for sharing my frustrations and my opinion. I need to be able to rely on hands free communications and I need it to work. I need the large screen of the GNote and I love what Samsung has given us.
BUT
I need it to work!
I will now go back and play with all these settings and see if I can make sense of it all.
Hi everyone.
First post but long time reader.
I have an un-rooted Vivid I updated the other day through the phone dial trick. Everything went fine with the update except all my previous apps appeared except for the voice dialer. I had a shortcut set on one of the screens and the label showed up with the little android guy as the image. When I clicked on it the message said the app is no longer associated. Sure enough I went through all the apps and it was not there.
I tried to install the apk and checked off the box to allow installation of unknown apps. It appeared it was working then I got a message during the install that the it did not install. I tried a few times just to be sure.
I also noticed that I am not able to use my bluetooth ear piece to accept a call or voice dial.
Does anyone have the voice dial app working or was it left out of the update? I tried the google voice app and that doesn't work with bluetooth.
I have a message to HTC regarding this as well. If there is no solution here, I will post what they plan to do if anything.
Edit 4/2/12 see the posts on pages 3&4 for a Voice dialer that works pretty good so far in ICS. There may be others that work just as well but I'm tired of trying to find them. Until (doubtful) google or HTC fixes this issue I'll stick with I have now.
I don't have a solution, but I have the same problem.
My Blueant Q2 headset has a command to activate the phone's voice command. The phone said my phone doesn't support that feature.
That's unfortunate because I use it all the time.
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Does everyone else have the voice dialer like we had in GB? If so can you post the apk?
Using bluetooth without it is very difficult to say the least. It's even more distracting than just picking up the phone and talking except that's not an option in many area I travel through.
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Does everyone else have the voice dialer like we had in GB? If so can you post the apk?
Using bluetooth without it is very difficult to say the least. It's even more distracting than just picking up the phone and talking except that's not an option in many area I travel through.
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Few to try - this was an issue with the Inspire at times too. This is an older apk and probably won't work, but backup and try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005228
Some suggestions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1314862
Also an app in the market called Hands-free voice dial that might work
After reading your post I tried messing with the voice dialer to see if I could help. It turns out it's not even installed on my phone and its not on the market. Voice actions are supposedly alot better and I wonder if the dialer was done away with in favor of voice actions. One problem with this is on my headset it now does nothing but beep at me when I hit the call button where as it brought up the dialer before. Also I held down search and tried to voice dial through voice actions and it couldn't pick up my voice through the headset. Right after I was messing with it I got a call and the caller could here me fine through my headset. So I dunno what the deal is. Oversight maybe? I'm fine with voice actions replacing the dialer but not if my button on my headset does nothing and i can't use my headset to use it.
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Okay, so it was a fluke, voice actions picks up my voice now. However, my call button still doesn't activate it. I have to unlock the phone and hold down search to activate it. I can make calls through it fine however so i think that is the solution. I believe the lack of support of a voice dialer button on a headset is most likely an oversight. Sucks but I hope this at lead helps you out for now.
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Okat HTC got back to me and here is their response. It fixed part of the issue but still no voice dialer app. I can now answer an incoming call by pushing the button on the earpiece. So far only half a fix. I'll try to find a decent dialer on the market. The google one sucks.
I can certainly help you with Bluetooth functionality on your HTC Vivid. I essentially want to clear some Bluetooth data from your phone and then see if the issue continues. First let's navigate to home>menu>settings>Bluetooth. Tap on the settings icon to the right of your Bluetooth device's name and let's select unpair.
Now let's return to settings and tap on Apps, then All. Please tap on Bluetooth share and select clear data and confirm. If your Bluetooth headset has an option to clear its partnerships, please do that as well.
We need to restart the phone. To do this let's just hold down power and select restart. When the phone boots back up are you able to pair with and properly use your Bluetooth headset?
yeah I can answer calls, and if I hold it down, it'll redial the last caller in my call log. But yeah if i just hit the button, it makes a beep and does nothing. I actually primarily use my headset for music playback, its a motorola SD-9 stereo bluetooth headset, but it works for calls too. I had to re pair it after the ICS update.
Ours do the same thing. Thanks for confirming I'm not nuts. I hope they didn't rush the update through just to be first with the update to ICS.
I have an older Moto HS850. I'm searching for a decent visor set since I now wear hearing aids. It's a bit tough to hear with the BT earpiece as it is since I have to have an aid out. Until I can get a decent voice dialer app I'll hold off on blowing money for a half assed solution.
Hope HTC comes through and develops a dialer for ICS. At least you'd know it'll be functional. So far I've tried three apps off the market and none have worked for what I need.
I guess I can always switch my phone out with my daughter if I really need to. I told her not to update yet since I was willing to be the guinea pig. She never uses her voice dialer. I would feel like taking a step back but GB was not bad at all.
I agree, gingerbread was great, I was hesistant to update but figured might as well. Hopefully HTC issues a fix for this problem quickly.
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...Voice actions are supposedly alot better and I wonder if the dialer was done away with in favor of voice actions. One problem with this is on my headset it now does nothing but beep
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I tried holding down the Search to activate Voice Actions. The Vivid seemed to use my Blueant Q2 mic. However, Voice Actions definitely doesn't work as well as the Voice Dialer for dialing contacts.
I'll be monitoring this thread for solutions.
I found a solution that isn't completely eligant buy works.
I downloaded Vlingo and setup the un-car option to auto listen for commands. Don't leave Vlingo in-car on fulltime else it will drain your battery.
However, when I signal phone commands from my header, it fires up Vlingo. Set it to default to in-car Vlingo. From the you can say "Hey Vlingo..." and speak your command. My Blueant Q2 headset still says "Feature not available" but it works.
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I found a solution that isn't completely eligant buy works.
I downloaded Vlingo and setup the un-car option to auto listen for commands. Don't leave Vlingo in-car on fulltime else it will drain your battery.
However, when I signal phone commands from my header, it fires up Vlingo. Set it to default to in-car Vlingo. From the you can say "Hey Vlingo..." and speak your command. My Blueant Q2 headset still says "Feature not available" but it works.
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Vlingo virtual assistant is the best.
Thanks fro the recommendation for vlingo. I haven't tried that one yet. Seems cummbersome to use. The voice dialer app was so easy to use. Everything else so far takes too many steps.
I'm checking out the new Motorola Roadster2. There is a Moto app that is made to use for it. So far all the reviews I read did not say anything about it working with ICS or not working. Most of the gripes were from Iphone users. I may hold off a little while until such reviews start coming in.
The Voice Dialer app we had in GB was an Android app built into GB. I had a version from 2.3.4 on my retired Sony phone that I bluetoothed over to my Vivid. It installed but would not work prpoperly. I tried disabling the voice thingy from ICS and it still didn't work. When I had the GB VD installed ICS was sluggish so I removed it.
Here is the latest response from HTC:
We apologize that you are unable to use the handsfree dialing over Bluetooth. Unfortunately, the Voice Dialer app was removed with the Ice Cream Sandwich update. There is no information available as to when or if this will be added again on the device as it was a change made by Google.
This might fix it,
I took the Bluetooth.apk from a Cyanogenmod and it got my wiimote to connect (see my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1560647) it should lift any nasty restrictions that HTC's bluetooth version has put on anything.
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This might fix it,
I took the Bluetooth.apk from a Cyanogenmod and it got my wiimote to connect (see my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1560647) it should lift any nasty restrictions that HTC's bluetooth version has put on anything.
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My issue isn't being able to pair my device it has to do with an app that Android left out of ICS that worked so well in GB.
Thanks for the info though. What can you do with the Vivid when it's paired with a wiimote?
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Thanks fro the recommendation for vlingo. I haven't tried that one yet. Seems cummbersome to use. The voice dialer app was so easy to use. Everything else so far takes too many steps.
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I understand vivid x2. I had used Vlingo before but then switched to the native Voice Dialer for the simplicity.
My problem with most 3rd party voice dialers is the only recognize and expect first names. With over 600 contacts, that won't work for me. Vlingo and Voice Dialer did use first and last names.
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Im having another bluetooth related issue. I primarily use my headset for listening to music. Since the ics update my music will go into random skipping sessions. It's not related to 4g or wifi as I mowed my lawn using a regular set of headphones and didn't have any issues. There is almost a pattern to the skipping actually. If kill pandora or Google Music and restart it'll fix the issue for a little bit but it'll start up again eventually. No issues before the update.
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After reading this thread, I tested my bluetooth hands-free connection in my car. It's BROKEN. My Vivid will connect to the car's audio system via BT, but it will not recognize my voice requests to call a number. It was working last week before I did the ICS "upgrade."
I expected something to not work, but I didn't expect something as critical as a safety feature. I use the hands-free dialing for obvious safety reasons. I have a feeling that HTC is catching heck about this one. They are about to catch some more from me.
I hope this isn't a case of "you got your update now shutup". Hopefully they'll release an update for bluetooth and voice dialing
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Hello everyone,
I'm a recent convert from an iPhone 5. Work took over everyone's cell contracts so I thought why not try it. So far it's been a mixed bag. The hardware is great: nice big screen, loud speakers, decent camera. But, there are somethings that have me scratching my head, like the lack of unified email, on-screen notifications, etc. I've managed to work out most of them but one that is really bugging me is voice control in my car.
I have a JVC X50-BT stereo. With my iPhone, I could hold the call button and it would invoke Siri. With Siri I could send messages, ask for addresses, or pick music to play. With the One, the voice button says "Not Supported". I'm able to stream music and use the next/prev buttons, go through the phonebook, recent and missed calls, but the call/voice control button doesn't work.
Does anyone know of a work around or way of achieving this? I know it may sound like a small thing but leaving the phone in my pocket and being able to do these tasks without taking it out or looking at it while I'm driving is important. I didn't think that it could support all the other features over bluetooth except for this one.
I'm running HTC Sense 4.2.2 (flashed) on a Telus phone.
Thanks.
Hi,
I've bought a "Jabra Stealth" headset and I'm unable to launch Google Now on my Nexus 6 (Android stock 5.0.1, FrancoKernel r8) with the dedicated button although it's a built-in feature of the headset. I assume that this is an issue of compatibility with Android 5.0. Jabra has answered me that I didn't configure vocal commands well but that's false. Has someone encountered the same problem and has a solution for it?
Thanks
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I've bought a "Jabra Stealth" headset and I'm unable to launch Google Now on my Nexus 6 (Android stock 5.0.1, FrancoKernel r8) with the dedicated button although it's a built-in feature of the headset. I assume that this is an issue of compatibility with Android 5.0. Jabra has answered me that I didn't configure vocal commands well but that's false. Has someone encountered the same problem and has a solution for it?
Thanks
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I have a similar issue. I use a Plantronics Voyager Legend. A couple of issues:
1) press and hold of the action button will bring up "voice dialer" instead of "google now". I dont know if you've ever tried to use voice dialer, but i think its more or less deprecated since the nexus 1 was the new kid on the block.
There is an app for bluetooth on the app store that lets you choose what to launch with that button. however, it didnt work that well for me. lots of lag and it blended together with other bluetooth related issues.
2) Bluetooth never seems to "turn off". I have a smart sensor enabled headset. IE the phone should know if i have the headset on or not, and pipe phone calls and notifications and ringtones to the speaker if i dont have it on and to the headset if i do. instead, the phone constantly pipes EVERYTHING to the bluetooth headset. no fix yet.
3) phone connection to my car's bluetooth makes my audiobook start playing. I have no idea why. it is not a setting in the audiobook app. Seems that the fix is to disable streaming media over bluetooth (contacts/messages only)
From what ive witnessed with issues regarding audio, screen brightness, bluetooth, this is yet another half-baked google product with little to no attempt at a proper follow through. just a crap device rushed to market with tons of potential and a complete crap OS and barely any thought or usability effort put into anything except the home screen.
I also have the N6 with the P Legend. I am having issues where the caller can barely hear me. Do you know if you have this issue at all?
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I have a similar issue. I use a Plantronics Voyager Legend. A couple of issues:
1) press and hold of the action button will bring up "voice dialer" instead of "google now". I dont know if you've ever tried to use voice dialer, but i think its more or less deprecated since the nexus 1 was the new kid on the block.
There is an app for bluetooth on the app store that lets you choose what to launch with that button. however, it didnt work that well for me. lots of lag and it blended together with other bluetooth related issues.
2) Bluetooth never seems to "turn off". I have a smart sensor enabled headset. IE the phone should know if i have the headset on or not, and pipe phone calls and notifications and ringtones to the speaker if i dont have it on and to the headset if i do. instead, the phone constantly pipes EVERYTHING to the bluetooth headset. no fix yet.
3) phone connection to my car's bluetooth makes my audiobook start playing. I have no idea why. it is not a setting in the audiobook app. Seems that the fix is to disable streaming media over bluetooth (contacts/messages only)
From what ive witnessed with issues regarding audio, screen brightness, bluetooth, this is yet another half-baked google product with little to no attempt at a proper follow through. just a crap device rushed to market with tons of potential and a complete crap OS and barely any thought or usability effort put into anything except the home screen.
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When the caller can barely hear you, check your phone. Sometimes, even though my headset is on, the phone doesn't care and attempts to use the phones speaker or mic.
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When the caller can barely hear you, check your phone. Sometimes, even though my headset is on, the phone doesn't care and attempts to use the phones speaker or mic.
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That's my current issue...
I can answer the calls with either my truck or ear piece, but both will randomly not have audio. The phone says it's connected BT, but I have to switch the source to speaker or handset and then click back over to BT. The whole time while I'm begging the person on the other end not to hang up and to hold on a second. Not bad when I'm at my desk with earpiece....let's just say it's a bit more nerve-racking on the highway.
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That's my current issue...
I can answer the calls with either my truck or ear piece, but both will randomly not have audio. The phone says it's connected BT, but I have to switch the source to speaker or handset and then click back over to BT. The whole time while I'm begging the person on the other end not to hang up and to hold on a second. Not bad when I'm at my desk with earpiece....let's just say it's a bit more nerve-racking on the highway.
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Same here. Also have a problem where, when on a call, an incoming call will kill bluetooth. This makes it unusable in my car as it becomes a real safety issue. I have to turn off BT and use the speakerphone which luckily is good enough for the job. Even switching the source and switching back doesn't always work for me.
I regret not sending the phone back for this problem. I'm waiting on v5.1 this month as rumored, hoping that will solve the problem. May just go back to my Lumina 925.
Has anyone tried going into Google settings app -> Search & Now -> Voice and turn on Bluetooth Headset (records audion through bluetooth headset if available).
I have Nexus 5 and Jabra Stealth and I had the same problem. I could solve it thanks to these indications: hackerspace.kinja.com/reassign-your-bluetooth-phone-button-to-open-google-n-1507391132
Same issue with calls not having audio through the car Bluetooth unless I switch to speaker/handset then back. I guess Marshmellow really messed up Bluetooth on a lot of people's phones not just us. Tried different rooms(AOSP, CM, stock) no help even tried updating the radio which helped Bluetooth crashing completely and requiring a restart but the phone issues remain.