SOme thoughts on flashing.. And a couple of misc. questions. - Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Bruce, a very active and extremely helpful user helped me understand the basics of flashing a rom. It finally was sucessful and I now have one of duttys awesome roms installed.
The process helped me grasp some of the general aspects about the phone, and I am very greatful for the help I already got, because I would never have dared to leap into it myself.
What some of you guys might not understand is that the information here can be quite overwhelming despite all the newbie guides. To put it roughly: Flashing a rom appearantly boils down to installing a .cab, placing a exe in a folder together with a spl.nbh and then running the exe. Then you replace the .nbh with your chosen rom-file and run the .exe again.. There you have it.. More or less described in two sentences, but when you read about it here its just... Woah.. Bigtime information overload.
My point is that I have no doubt that you get the same questions over and over and over again, and it must leave the impressions that people are to lazy to look into the things themselves. In some cases that may be true, but I bet that in most cases it aint. It is simply a question about things sounding more complicated than it is when you browse such a comphrensive forum as this.
So despite the newbie-guides, pre-guides and "for dummies guides" you will still get questions that has already been answered. And in most cases it is a sign of unsecurity more than lazyness.... And maybe because that enthusiasts (the polite way of saying nerds) may THINK they explain things as simple as possible, but for a newbie it is still extremely complicated.
Just a little thought after my own first experiences with tampering with my phone.
With that said, my "new" phone left me with some questions:
- Is a cooked ROM a legal piece of software? Not that I care much about it, Im just curious. It looks like a windows with a very comprehensive skin, but afaik it is a whole new OS, and I doubt that the chefs have been building those up from scratch. Does that mean that it is a hacked windows or what? EDIT: Found an interesting read and got it answered: Not legal, but noone cares I guess.. We all paid the software the day we bought the phone. The day we see phones without preinstalled OS the case may be a different I guess
- With my new Dutty ROM I was forced to give up my danish interface. Is it possible to change at least some of the interface back to danish in some way? The ROM itself have no built-in support for danish, but maybe through a language pack of some sort? Also my phonenumbers shows up in this format: (XXX) XXX-XX which is quite annoying for a dane who is used to XXXXXXXX. Is there any way to change this back to the way it were? I have not been able to find the options in anywhere of the settings-menu (99 % sure it isnt there, looked both in regional settings and phone settings). I have brief experiences with tampering with the registry file, but I am reluctant to do so without proper guidance to where to modify it, but I assume that thats where I will do it?
I have already recieved extremely much help here and I WILL take my part in answering my share of inquiries on this board when I have the answers at hand.
Thank you in advance.

Mmmm...
"Also my phonenumbers shows up in this format: (XXX) XXX-XX which is quite annoying for a dane who is used to XXXXXXXX. Is there any way to change this back to the way it were?"
I may be wrong, but you should be able to do this with the 'Regional Settings' - Go to Settings Tab, Locale & Text, Regional and select the country you want from the 'Region' list. I'm not sure if this works for phone numbers though?

It is set to danish but only have impact on the currency and date formats.
If it was THAT easy, I deserved a whooping for asking.

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New MDA: Step by step???

I have been looking at this site (and others linked to this site) for the past three days waiting for my T-Mobile MDA to arrive.
Could someone please post a new phone, out-of-box step-by-step guide to what to do first as far as resets, ROM, unlocks, software, and tweaks??
I have at least a ream of paper with posts printed but can not seem to get it organized into what to do- when.
BTW- I had a Cingular Rzr- after I unlock SIM can I use my Cigular SIM to access my contacts saved on it with my TMobile MDA?
Thanks so much for all of your help.
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I have been looking at this site (and others linked to this site) for the past three days waiting for my T-Mobile MDA to arrive.
Could someone please post a new phone, out-of-box step-by-step guide to what to do first as far as resets, ROM, unlocks, software, and tweaks??
I have at least a ream of paper with posts printed but can not seem to get it organized into what to do- when.
BTW- I had a Cingular Rzr- after I unlock SIM can I use my Cigular SIM to access my contacts saved on it with my TMobile MDA?
Thanks so much for all of your help.
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Detail will make for a long post but here is a few quick steps of poular MDA setups.
Two General Routes you can take with bringing your MDA up to date with the latest in cool additions.
Route 1: Does not require you to flash a ROM
- Apply those tweeks available here, that let you customize your MDA for performance and useability. These are in the form of Registry Modifications. They can be entered manually through one of the popular utilities like Total Commander or Resco Explorer. These tweeks are also available in the form of a .Cab file for easy installation. There is also a really nice app here for applying those tweeks on the fly (Registry Wizard)
Route 2: Requires you to load a cooked Rom (Gives you upto date versions of WM 5, Radio ROM, etc...) which gives you a better performing MDA, plus the lates capabilities.
- When going this route you have to be careful, mistakes can give you a bricked MDA.
1. Buy a 128mb MiniSD (Your going to use this to backup your original ROM incase of a mistake, problem, or you just want to revert back to the old ROM.)
2. Backup your ROM using the method described in the Wizard_Service_Manual.pdf (Found on the FTP server)
3. Now choose one of the great cooked ROMS (Xelencin, MrClean, PDAMobizEdition, etc...) Each has its own customizations. Some even include all the Registy mods.
Good luck.
I realize that it would take a while but possibly it could be added to the FAQ section? It seems that many people have asked for it in the past but one has never been provided. It would be nice not to have to be a return poster asking how to save my brick!
I definitely want to add a cooked ROM. The reason why I (and others) ask for the walk-through (in the correct order) is so we don't end up with a brick and you guys are the best!
I just don't want to unlock my CID with loki if it is unlocked in Eelencin's ROM or forget to add the java upgrade after the ROM, or when (and where computer or phone and Active Sync) I should download registry commander program... do you see what I mean.
I have the information from the forum but I have no idea when to do what-
Please help all you Obi Won's- you are our only help!
thanks again-
The problem is, what one person sees as a necessary step in setup, others dont.
Some say upgrade ROM to latest, others say dont. Some say use the latest from your telecom provider, others from hardware manufacturer. Some say set display to 10% others to 50%...and the list goes on
It is, and must, be down to the individual user. Read the manual (hehe hands up who actually has), try a few things. If it goes wrong you can always Hard Reset and start again. If you get stuck, or want to know the best setting for a particular option, come back n ask.
This is a great thread!
I'm confused about where to start, especially because i have a G4.
I decided to stay with the latest Tmobile ROM since its more difficult to unlock etc. (i couldnt find anything about unlocking a G4 here)
So i got this freeware program called TaskManager and im pretty sure i can edit the registry through it, so i decided i would just tweak the registry eg. change the cache and history to the memory card etc. to improve performance and i wont mind a little overclock either
Can you guys give me a link to a list of registry tweaks?
And do you think im making the right choice by just tweaking the registry rather than trying to unlock it or anything?
And am i missing anything? Like i said im kinda confused about where to start with a G4.
Thanks from a Noob.
hey sup. welcome. firts of all u are way behind. your rom is past due even your radio. why dont u try faria's new rom version 2 but please follow instructions clearly because u do need to unlock and downgrade and all that good stuff to get that bad boy looking sweet. hola
What to do, in what order
nancychic said:
I have been looking at this site (and others linked to this site) for the past three days waiting for my T-Mobile MDA to arrive.
Could someone please post a new phone, out-of-box step-by-step guide to what to do first as far as resets, ROM, unlocks, software, and tweaks??
I have at least a ream of paper with posts printed but can not seem to get it organized into what to do- when.
BTW- I had a Cingular Rzr- after I unlock SIM can I use my Cigular SIM to access my contacts saved on it with my TMobile MDA?
Thanks so much for all of your help.
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First, find out if you have a G3 or a G4. Since it's new, more likely it's a G4?
First thing I would do is completely unlock it, if it's a G3 by running Lokiwiz TWO TIMES - sim unlock AND CID unlock (emphasis is intentional and very important! - and make sure you get confirmation and reboot after each unlock step). If it's a G4, you may have to pay to get CID unlock.
Next, find out what version ROM you have, and upgrade to the most recent "official" ROM from TMobile if your ROM is not as recent (see the FTP).
Then read every post by Dr. Puttingham, every post by Faria, every post by Molski, every post by Menneisyys, every post by Risidoro, every post by vijay555, every post by me (haha, just kidding - pay no attention to the man behind the curtain) - geez, this feels like my Academy Awards speech - who did I leave out? Read everything you can by every senior member, every guru who's been there, done that, tried it all.
THEN, you can start having fun. Try anything else you want to after that!
this may sound lame but just be patience and keep reading, that is the best way you are going to learn because it is more confusing when everyone tells you different stuff.
Read and ask questions as you go along. That is how most if not all of us start out. There is no dummy guide here. If you ask some people they would say this is not the beginners forums to be exact. Sorry if I sound like an A**hole but it is just straight solid advice.

New user

Hey y'all, I'd just thought I'd introduce myself to the Kaiser world seeing as I'm going to be spending a lot of time here. I'm a freshman at Notre Dame, and needed (..wanted) a smart phone to help me organize this mass of everything happening around me. Being the technology geek I am, I looked quite a bit into it and decided that the "Tilt" was far superior to my dad's heralded and suggested iPhone (plus I kinda loathe Apple. So eh. lol) Anyway, I received my Tilt as a gift last night, and realized that it came bloated with AT&T's crap and didn't look like the same home screen I saw on HTC's website. After spending more than a couple of hours here, I was successful in blindly following different instructions I found in at least 3 different threads to flash the Dutty's HTC ROM to my Kaiser, and I absolutely love it. Problem is though, I have no idea what hell is going on here. I don't know what a .RUU even is, and even though a .CAB was easy to figure out, I have no idea where to put them on phone. And before I get lambasted with the mantra of "use the searchbar" venerated by web forum's loyal users, I'd like to point out that if you take a step back, look at all of this info on here, and pretend you don't understand any of it, it's pretty damn hard to decipher this stuff. So if you guys know of any "Pocket PC New Users" guide written by knowledgable ppl on the web, and any XDA-Beginner guides or anything, please point them in my direction. I'm more than happy to read. However, reading 33 forum pages to figure out how to do 8 lines of instructions for one thing is extremely time consuming, cumbersome, and not that helpful. So again, it's nice to meet you all, and maybe y'all could help point me out in the right direction.
---Holy crap, that's a lot of text. Basically, hey y'all, nice to meet you, and do you think you could help out a newb who's able and willing to learn?
use the search bar!!!! hahahaha jk.....just read the wiki
As well as what's already been suggested, take time to read the manual and play around with the ppc. The importance of experiential learning can't be understated when it comes to these things. Unlike with full sized PCs, performing a hard reset to restore the ppc to an out of the box state is easy work.
So quick question. When I'm copying .CAB files or .EXE files onto my kaiser, where do I put them? I'm installing the iPhone app posted by Grumps, and I don't know where I should put it. Should I just make a file tree for every program I put on there under Program Files?
Hi, a .CAB file is just an executable installer. So best place it in the root of your storage card and delete it after installation of the app. During installation you will be asked where to install the app, PPC memory or storage card. Selecting the storage card will of course save memory, but for some reasons some apps don't work from storage card. You will have to try...
fightin4theirish said:
So quick question. When I'm copying .CAB files or .EXE files onto my kaiser, where do I put them? I'm installing the iPhone app posted by Grumps, and I don't know where I should put it. Should I just make a file tree for every program I put on there under Program Files?
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I normally keep all my .cab files on my storage card so when I hard reset or re-flash I know where they are. Doesn't matter where you put them - I created a directory called (unoriginally) My Cabs. When you touch on them they will install to the necessary directory on the ppc, and can be uninstalled from the settings menu.
The .exe files could be a bit different. Some need to be installed from your pc - they will then install to the ppc next time you connect with activesync, and can be uninstalled in the same way as .cab files. Other .exe files can be stored anywhere on your ppc or storage card and will run each time you select them.
Heya. Let me be an opportunist and troll your thread to introduce myself here, too. hey all, homies n gyals, I'm Creiz, yes, it's my real name, pleased to meet y'all.
As for your quick question, If you use windows XP with dotNet framework 2, you can use this niifty utility called CabViaAciveSync to directly install your .cab files from the PC.
Right click the .cab => CabViaActiveSync.
Magic.
;P i´m noob too if you dont mine i'll use this thread to intruduce me too hehe and make a question. if i put a new rom my guarantee expires? and is good to change the default rom? what do you "kaiserians" think is the best rom for kaiser and how it works, if i make hard-reset the default rom appears? sorry but im really a noob in pocket things...
well i'm ricardo o/
fightin4theirish said:
Hey y'all, I'd just thought I'd introduce myself to the Kaiser world seeing as I'm going to be spending a lot of time here. I'm a freshman at Notre Dame, and needed (..wanted) a smart phone to help me organize this mass of everything happening around me. Being the technology geek I am, I looked quite a bit into it and decided that the "Tilt" was far superior to my dad's heralded and suggested iPhone (plus I kinda loathe Apple. So eh. lol) Anyway, I received my Tilt as a gift last night, and realized that it came bloated with AT&T's crap and didn't look like the same home screen I saw on HTC's website. After spending more than a couple of hours here, I was successful in blindly following different instructions I found in at least 3 different threads to flash the Dutty's HTC ROM to my Kaiser, and I absolutely love it. Problem is though, I have no idea what hell is going on here. I don't know what a .RUU even is, and even though a .CAB was easy to figure out, I have no idea where to put them on phone. And before I get lambasted with the mantra of "use the searchbar" venerated by web forum's loyal users, I'd like to point out that if you take a step back, look at all of this info on here, and pretend you don't understand any of it, it's pretty damn hard to decipher this stuff. So if you guys know of any "Pocket PC New Users" guide written by knowledgable ppl on the web, and any XDA-Beginner guides or anything, please point them in my direction. I'm more than happy to read. However, reading 33 forum pages to figure out how to do 8 lines of instructions for one thing is extremely time consuming, cumbersome, and not that helpful. So again, it's nice to meet you all, and maybe y'all could help point me out in the right direction.
---Holy crap, that's a lot of text. Basically, hey y'all, nice to meet you, and do you think you could help out a newb who's able and willing to learn?
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Hi:
I am really a newbie too, only had the Tilt for 2 weeks now. But, I have read hundreds of threads here already, so I'm learning. My suggestion to you is, be sure to install Kaiser Tweaks, it is a great app, which will make it very easy to perform certain registry edits on your phone. The most important of which being, it enables you, with one click to enable hsdpa (faster than 3G internet). For some insane reason AT&T has this disabled on the Tilt. Although, maybe with your new ROM on there you may not need it. I am still using the AT&T ROM, so I'm not sure which features are or aren't on Dutty's ROM.
Anyway, just keep reading, it's amazing how much there is to learn here
My suggestions for best apps for the Tilt are:
Kaiser Tweaks (one click reg edits for many useful items)
SPB Pocket Plus (today screen interface, which looks cool, and is so useful for quick access to programs, files etc.)
All SPB products are pretty cool, and there are several to choose from depending on your needs
S2U2 (slide to unlock program, very useful, although the Tilt seems locked when in suspend mode, it really isn't)
PS: You're right alot of people do just tell you to go search, but believe it or not, there are MANY people here, who are willing to help a newbie, and understand that sometimes searches don't give us the answers we need. I have received tons of help from very nice people here.

Wing help needed, please help

I just recently upgraded to the wing. So far...........it's had it's ups and downs with me. As with any phone, there are somethings I like, and other's I don't.
I wanted to ask a few of you a couple of questions. Before asking, I know others have asked some of these questions on here already, but I wanted to ask them from a n00b's pov. I haven't modded squat with this phone yet and don't really know much about it to be honest. I did successfully mod the living daylights outta my V3r, so.........I know how to follow directions lol. But as far as being directed to a website to download.............won't exactly work lol. Anywho, here are my questions:
1) How do I increase program memory?
2) I had a video file on my phone that played smoothly. I had some issues with the wing (long story), but long story short, I had to do a hard reset. I've only had it like 5 days (TMo 3rd level tech support told me to reset). Ever since that reset (and having to reput that exact same video with no changes made), the video now plays choppy on the phone. Any idea why?
3) Are there any programs that I can remove without damaging any of the system files?
4) For the life of me, I never have understood why phones come prestocked with those goffy photos, gifs, and other garbage. Is there a way to remove these?
5) Is there a way to increase the size of contact pictures when they call?
6) I was also reading that there's supposed to be some kind of "update". What will it do and does anyone know when it's coming out?
I appologize for asking some questions that have already been asked, but I really need someone to walk me through "step by step", especially considering how much this phone costs. I DEFINITLY don't wanna mess it up. If someone, ANYONE, can help, I'd be greatly appreciative.
Oh yeah, one more question. Any tips and/or tricks that the phone does that the manual doesn't tell you?
djwill13 said:
I just recently upgraded to the wing. So far...........it's had it's ups and downs with me. As with any phone, there are somethings I like, and other's I don't.
I wanted to ask a few of you a couple of questions. Before asking, I know others have asked some of these questions on here already, but I wanted to ask them from a n00b's pov. I haven't modded squat with this phone yet and don't really know much about it to be honest. I did successfully mod the living daylights outta my V3r, so.........I know how to follow directions lol. But as far as being directed to a website to download.............won't exactly work lol. Anywho, here are my questions:
1) How do I increase program memory?
2) I had a video file on my phone that played smoothly. I had some issues with the wing (long story), but long story short, I had to do a hard reset. I've only had it like 5 days (TMo 3rd level tech support told me to reset). Ever since that reset (and having to reput that exact same video with no changes made), the video now plays choppy on the phone. Any idea why?
3) Are there any programs that I can remove without damaging any of the system files?
4) For the life of me, I never have understood why phones come prestocked with those goffy photos, gifs, and other garbage. Is there a way to remove these?
5) Is there a way to increase the size of contact pictures when they call?
6) I was also reading that there's supposed to be some kind of "update". What will it do and does anyone know when it's coming out?
I appologize for asking some questions that have already been asked, but I really need someone to walk me through "step by step", especially considering how much this phone costs. I DEFINITLY don't wanna mess it up. If someone, ANYONE, can help, I'd be greatly appreciative.
Oh yeah, one more question. Any tips and/or tricks that the phone does that the manual doesn't tell you?
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1.) At the moment keep it clean, there was a thread on here a while ago where someone (moneytoo?) was tweeking his to run better but I dont remember what the last update was. Keep the memory clean and you can run things until we get more updates or a cooked fix.
2.)Not sure what would cause the vid file to be choppy unless you are running too many things at the same time, whats the specs on the vid, and what player are you using to watch it? If its the built in WMP then thats most likely your issue.
3.)Yeah, depends on what you want to remove?
4.)Yes, open the pictures & Videos, right soft key number 4 delete.
5.)Not that I know of, but I would bet you can go into the phones system files and pull the incoming c all display file and tweek it to be larger. Mine is something around half screen by default I think, never paid attention to it really...
6.)I heard that it was late March to April(most likely late April) but that could change.
Theres a lot that the manual does not tell you, you can go into the regestry to change your start menu look, you can open the home page XML file and redesign it for your personal tasts(IE on the nice HTC home screen you can have a start menu and other stuff) Just depends on what type of things you want to do with it.
This is my first smartphone and I am still learning, there are a lot more inteligent people on here than I and I am sure they will chime in with their tweaks and stuff, or correct my mistakes if I had some. I was pretty wary at first since it was such a different platform to me, but after about a month I got to know it and since I know computers so well did not mind playing in the registry and so forth. Just back up your ROM before you tweek in case you do toast something.
Enjoy the phone and welcome
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1.) At the moment keep it clean, there was a thread on here a while ago where someone (moneytoo?) was tweeking his to run better but I dont remember what the last update was. Keep the memory clean and you can run things until we get more updates or a cooked fix.
2.)Not sure what would cause the vid file to be choppy unless you are running too many things at the same time, whats the specs on the vid, and what player are you using to watch it? If its the built in WMP then thats most likely your issue.
3.)Yeah, depends on what you want to remove?
4.)Yes, open the pictures & Videos, right soft key number 4 delete.
5.)Not that I know of, but I would bet you can go into the phones system files and pull the incoming c all display file and tweek it to be larger. Mine is something around half screen by default I think, never paid attention to it really...
6.)I heard that it was late March to April(most likely late April) but that could change.
Theres a lot that the manual does not tell you, you can go into the regestry to change your start menu look, you can open the home page XML file and redesign it for your personal tasts(IE on the nice HTC home screen you can have a start menu and other stuff) Just depends on what type of things you want to do with it.
This is my first smartphone and I am still learning, there are a lot more inteligent people on here than I and I am sure they will chime in with their tweaks and stuff, or correct my mistakes if I had some. I was pretty wary at first since it was such a different platform to me, but after about a month I got to know it and since I know computers so well did not mind playing in the registry and so forth. Just back up your ROM before you tweek in case you do toast something.
Enjoy the phone and welcome
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Thanks for your answers, they're greatly appreciated.
2) It's the built in wmp. How do I remove it and what do I replace it with? Furthermore, what do I need to install new software?
3)I'd like to remove stuff I don't use. I'm talking about where you go to remove programs. I've got Microsoft Live Search, T-Mobile Email Wizard 1.0 (don't even use my phone for emails), OZ communications OZ IM (not sure what that is), and Winwap Technologies Oy t-zones (not sure what that is or does either).
4) All those pics are saying that they're .sys files, and I don't wanna mess up the phone by deleting them (will it?).
New question, how do I back up my ROM?
djwill13 said:
Thanks for your answers, they're greatly appreciated.
2) It's the built in wmp. How do I remove it and what do I replace it with? Furthermore, what do I need to install new software?
3)I'd like to remove stuff I don't use. I'm talking about where you go to remove programs. I've got Microsoft Live Search, T-Mobile Email Wizard 1.0 (don't even use my phone for emails), OZ communications OZ IM (not sure what that is), and Winwap Technologies Oy t-zones (not sure what that is or does either).
4) All those pics are saying that they're .sys files, and I don't wanna mess up the phone by deleting them (will it?).
New question, how do I back up my ROM?
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No problem
I never removed my built in WMP just in case and its taking up no space, but I use two players at the moment, TCMP (I think I have an older version since it wont support quad pixel mpeg4 for some reason, but its the only version I can find) and Core Player. Both will play just about everything out there. TCMP works best (that I have found) on our phones because you can tell it to play at medium quality a full size file so you dont have to convert your media (most of the time) and it wont lag. Core Player was good, but seems to lag every now and then (most likely from the lack of proper video codec on the s730) but since it will play FLAC audio I kept it installed.
You can do it from the phone itself, go into your start menu, settings, more, top option remove programs, this usually will just be for what you have installed. Optionally you can connect it to your computer and explore through active sync and remove the data, icons and folders for what you dont want. I personally am not sure how one goes in and removes the preinstalled software for sure.
The pictures with a .sys sound like they are for icons, your menu's and other images that you might want to keep. The junk pictures that are pre loaded should be in .jpg, .bmp, doubt it but .png extensions.
I have not backed mine up yet but theres a tutorial in what you need and what you need to do stickied at the top of this forum, flash sspl and hardspl, I dont remember for certain but I think somewhere in there is the way to back up your settings, dont quote me on that though...

Noobies, Roms & Program Compatibility Issues...

I have been a Windows Mobile user for quite some time. I was a lurker in these thread begining in the 2002 & then Blue Angel days. I didn't really start try to contribute until the Kaiser came around. By this time I had spent 2 years watching, learning & reading. I also still consider myself very much new to CE & embeded devices.
One of the biggest complaints, the highest number of posts revolve around program compatibility issues with roms, both OEM & chef prepared.
One of the things most overlooked is the effect that installed programs can have upon each other. But it's not just the apps themselves that can cause issues.
Did you know that apps can both work or not work depending on the order they were installed? Have you ever wondered why a certain program just works for most, but not for you?
Before jumping to conclusions & thinking it must be something that the chef did that prevents you from using that favorite application, think about all of the programs you install & realize that many of them have to interact with parts of the OS at the same time & each program affects both the system & registry & hence can also affect each other in turn.
I have seen suggestions from others, particularly Kyphur, suggesting you to start over with installs. This is good solid advice. Install a few, see that they work & keep a few notes on the order of installation & what has issues when.
One point often overlooked, is that the order in which you install programs can have a great & varied effect on what works & what doesn't.
For instance, I know that with some Dutty roms that my favorite SIP, Teksoft FingerTouch, will not work if I install it before SPB Pocket Plus. I haev issues with BlackBerry Connect many times if I don't install it as one of my first applications.
You need to remember, that these roms are written by many different people. The are partly written by the Manufacturer, partly by Microsoft, influenced by OEM's & carriers, altered by chefs & then you are installing a dozen programs written by at least that number of developers. That leaves a lot of variables in which something can very easily go wrong.
Know your applications, always install your priority apps first, & don't install a high number of apps manually without a reset. You are much more likely to have issues mass installing apps than you are when you install a few, soft-reset, test them out & then continue your installation process.
Today alone, I had 6 messages about programs not working. For a few of these I installed the same rom, & after changing the installation order, I had no issues.
There are too many variables in these systems & their programs to think you can just install everything the same & always have it all work. Sometimes you need to take a little initiative & try something new, a different way.
The same can be said for Auto installers, UC & Shashimi. Installation order can make a difference. Now hopefully I get a few less messages about this, LOL, yeah right.
Great post and contribution as always. I just wonder how many people will actually read this.
My thoughts exactly as I happened to be online during Leo's Diamond v.1 feeding frenzy and the day the TyTn II update came out. Then reading the follow up soon later. Such as wait a minute, this is crap. It doesn't work with Igo , It doesn't work with HHC and on and on. Like Leo or HTC was supposed to load every obscure piece of kit ,to make sure that all of you could load your phones with garbage and they will still work as smooth as day one.
A little prethought and common sense go a long way. Well said GSLEON.
Edit: And congrats AllTheWay on the promo.Well deserved
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AllTheWay said:
Great post and contribution as always. I just wonder how many people will actually read this.
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I read it makes sense too
-McMex
Great post! Now to get the noobs to read...
GSLEON3 said:
This is good solid advice.
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It most certainly is. I didn't know this info before. Thanks GS.
i've read it
footnotes please? lol j/k
Seriously great post how many will read. Make sticky!!!
thanks for the post
Great information GSLeon (as usual). That's why I prefer clean/lite ROMs, and installing the apps myself. I didn't know the reason - just noticed I had less (ie no) problems doing it my way. Now I know why!
This is also basic troubleshooting... This is exactly why when you come to a thread asking for help (particularly cooked roms) the first question the chef will usually ask is:
What all have you, or what do you have installed...
Most chefs wont even begin to consider YOUR issue a problem until this base has been covered. Installation of programs is the #1 cause of issues when dealing with the billion variable cooked roms.
My best advice is to actually spend the time knowing your programs, know what they depend on, know what goes where (kinda like sex ed). If you want everything to work straight out of the box without any fine tuning then your probably in the wrong place!
Excellent Post!!!
Thanks for the info GSLEON!!!!
I have had my Tilt since Oct 07......having never owned a Windows based product ever before I read this forum like is was war and peace.....also never creating a thread just searching, searching, searching!
I have ran into this before and have a word doc with the order to install when flashing anew
Thanks for the great post and all of your help in the past.
I agree with most of what you're saying GS except for one instance that is messing with me. I jus bought a TyTn II to replace my water damaged Tilt. I bought it here from the U.S. but the box says Singapore. I flashed the WM6.1 update and everything is cool except for the HTC weather. This is a HTC application and they should have gotten it right b4 releasing the Rom. Things that come STANDARD with an OEM ROM should automatically work. All the 3rd party stuff that you said I do agree with. Now, anybody know how to fix this little issue?
Well said! Consider myself as wery fresh on CE, this can probobly be repeated to the even more advance user as it is easy to forget that every brick plays a part on how the device acts. When I am starting on a new rom the first 2-3 days goes to the setup, alot of testing and hard resets. Its easy to forgett the fact: what worked yestoday on duttys rom does not automaticly work today on Laurentius26 (or any other chefs) rom.

Don't hate me....

OK, I have spent the last hour perusing various threads here trying to determine how to flash a new ROM. I know basic questions liek this are discouraged as people feel "the answers are out there". But, there are dozens (if not hundreds) of posts, all with confusing/contradictory information. I've learned enough to believe I understand the hard/soft SPL issues, but still have alot of questions.
Primary question: Is there a single place which is kept updated with a set of clear steps to update the ROM, including SPL, radio, ROM, and whatever else may be needed? Ideally this would be the most robust/reliable version of these things currently available.
Secondary questions are:
1. If I install a new ROM will I need to re-install of the current programs running on the phone (like SPB pocket plus, Garmin, HTC audio manager, etc)?
2. Should the ROM be flashed before the SPL, after, or it doesn't matter? (Seems llike the HardSPL would be needed first).
3. Is there a place to get the most recent/tested/reliable versions of the SPL, the ROM, and the Radio?
4. Is there a place to decribe the differences between the items in #3 above, and to make recommendations as to whcih to choose? (I simply need a reliable version which runs WM 6.1, and ideally which would allow configuration of the controls on the side of the Tilt - or even just disable all of them.)
Thanks.
1) yes
2) spl first, one time only.
3) Kaiser Rom section
4) I used q-mobile 1.2 b/c nothing was as fast and stable (mostly fast) as that wm 6 rom. If you have time, it is always best to experiment and find out which is best for you.
For further details and steps: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
OK, a few more hours down the road -- I flashed the HardSPL (Kaiser-HardSPLv1.zip) with no problems. I found DUtty's Diamond ROM RUU Signed and have that ready to flash, but first ---- will this be OK on the Tilt? Will I need to fix the keyboard afterwards?
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OK, a few more hours down the road -- I flashed the HardSPL (Kaiser-HardSPLv1.zip) with no problems. I found DUtty's Diamond ROM RUU Signed and have that ready to flash, but first ---- will this be OK on the Tilt? Will I need to fix the keyboard afterwards?
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come on man, if you can't find these answers on this site, you might not be ready to flash roms.. there are literally 100s of posts and 95% of the time any question you have has already been answered, especially when you know the name of a program is "tilt keyboard fix" that you will need it to "fix your tilt keyboard"... and naming you thread "don't hate me" pretty much eliminates any future help this thread will be unless for some reason another noob searches for the word "don't" or "hate"... Don't be afraid to ask questions if you see that it's something that hasn't already been answered.
I'm obviously not ready to flash ROM's -- that is why I ask these questions - to get ready.
The fact that there are hundreds of posts is the problem.
If there is a post that answers my specific question, please point me to it:
"If I use the Duffy Diamond ROM, will I need to use the Tilt Keyboard fix"?
P.S. Spending your time to not answer the question is kindof a waste, right? If you don't want to answer, go do something more productive.
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"If I use the Duffy Diamond ROM, will I need to use the Tilt Keyboard fix"?
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hahah duffy... hahahah
and yes u have to use tilt keyboard fix to getthe layout for the tilt. or actually advanced config, which comes on the rom, should have an option on there of what keyboard layout to use. good luck
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P.S. Spending your time to not answer the question is kindof a waste, right? If you don't want to answer, go do something more productive.
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nope, it is a continuing effort to discourage people from starting redundant threads, very productive.
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The fact that there are hundreds of posts is the problem.
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And now there are hundreds + 1.... Thanks.
lost4good said:
If there is a post that answers my specific question, please point me to it:
"If I use the Duffy Diamond ROM, will I need to use the Tilt Keyboard fix"?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334911&highlight=keyboard+TILT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387159&highlight=keyboard+TILT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353577&highlight=keyboard+TILT
** This is NOT intended as a flame **
Look, here's the deal... Everybody understands that there are hundreds of dead-end/useless threads that exist in the Kaiser sections (thousands when you count the rest of the site).
The unfortunate fact of the matter is that until junior members learn to start searching for the answer to their question before creating new threads, the search function built-in to the site will continue to be polluted with conflicting information.
This site is not designed for people who are not willing to do any work for themselves. You do NOT appear to be one of these people since you have done some reading.
So in closing,
Read the Kaiser Wiki, read the "**BEFORE YOU POST START HERE** FAQ, Wiki, Stickies & Tutorials - Suggestions Welcome!" thread, and most importantly, once you are ready to flash your first ROM, read the entire thread for the ROM before downloading and flashing.
That last part can be daunting for Dutty's ROMs since they are arguably the most popular on the site, but it is a necessity.
Thanks to those with useful answers, I was able to get everything working.
To Dutty, I need to apologize as my older eyes interpreted the screen as Duffy. I have learned now, and I appreciate your work in providing the ROM's.
Believe me, I spent alot of time (all day today actually) reading through stuff. The simple fact is there is too much stuff, it is too scattered, and there are several possible starting points.
For future reference, the best single reference point (for me anyway) was:
For further details and steps: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...Mx20.Upgrading.

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