Evening all,
I'm running a Tytn II with a standard Orange UK WM6.1 ROM, have done so for about a year with minimal problems.
This evening it's started with an error in the tasks/ to do list - 'No program memory available, tap start > settings... etc'.
Numerous soft resets haven't solved it; I haven't yet tried a hard reset although obviously this is on the cards if I can back it up. I also can't access the bootloader screen.
Edit: when it comes up with this error I check the task manager to find that nothing in particular is running. And it's the same very time I try to start the tasks list. Grrr. Interestingly, on the home screen, it clearly recognises that there are tasks (7 active, 1 high priority), but I can't access them
Sooo... anyone had this problem or any pointers on how to fix it, other than trying a hard reset?
Ta
not sure...but you might want to check how much free storage space is remaining on the device. goto Settings->System->Memory and report back the amount of "Free" space available under the "Storage" and "Program" columns.
if free storage space is low, try to delete unnecessary files from the device (or move these unnecessary files to the storage card). uninstalling unneeded programs will also help free up some storage space.
I've gotten these sorts of errors while browsing if Opera tries to cache more data than there is space available. Definitely double check you available space like ASCIIker said.
Storage space free is 41MB; program memory is 53MB (32MB used)
Update: Just did SPBackup and a hard reset. Good news - it did the hard reset. Bad news, I still have the same problem. Argggh!!
OK, update on that - the tasks and calendar no longer work, and rebooting brings up a message that there's an error with cprog.exe.
Gah!
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Hi there!
I'm having a problem with the phone storage, not the internal 4gb storage...
The phone storage is at 0.20 mb (free!), but i don't really know why! On Saturday there were about 20 mb of free storage, but now they are gone ... I didn't install any programms, just looked a few videos with the youtube player and played around with some pictures that where sent as an email attachement (2 mb per picture) and suddenly the phone tells me "memory is low". i tried the sktools "clean" tool, but i'm not quite sure what i can delete without killing my pim data and so on. Is there anyway to figure out which application keeps all the information stored that killed my storage?!
I looked through the phone folders in the explorer on my pc, but i can't say
where the lost storage is located
any ideas on this !?
Thanks in advance
André
Maybe browser cache-data is filling it up? checked temp folders? 0,20MB sounds weird tho. What ROM are you using?
i searched all the tempfolders (hopefully i found them all ) but there aren't any large tempfiles or so ...
is there any specific folder you want me to have a closer look at?
i'm using the original o2 rom (1.37.207.2 GER)
Make a hard reboot and choose the 2nd option in the hard reboot menu
i'll give it a try the next few days and keep you informed
thnx!
before hard reset use sktools and do a complete clean
Why don't you see in your system settings menu, click memorry.
There you find a 'link' which gives you the option to search for big size files that fill up your memory.
too bad it doens't find many small files
Does anyone have / know of a way to restore the program memory back to it's original state without having to soft-reset? I've tried Memaid, Oxios Hibernate, SKTools, etc, etc...
Anyone who has used a Diamond for more than a day will know that program memory just disappears, even after killing all applications and running one of the apps mentioned, it just won't come back! I've discovered some ROM's are better than others, but none of them are what I'd call 'reasonable' at memory managing.
Where does it go to, and why is a soft-reset needed to get all available program memory back? Any development wizzes got an idea on this?
I'm using ipaq 6818 with nhocbanme cooked rom. he was added a software called FREE MEM to OEM but it's only able to recover some of missing memory. Normal memory after soft reset 28 - 30mb. after several times use for activities it'll drop to 17 - 23mb which all app has been killed via task manager. after do free mem it's only recover about 1.5mb and couldn't totally recover like first time after soft reset. but it's Ok for me since this nhocbanme cooked rom is very fast and very very stable for my ipaq 6818. the minus is this rom looks very dark. if u are not change the folders icon
It seems that WM is bad at managing memory and lets a number of bad programs take up space after closing. Opera seems to be one of the worst culprits; I wish we had a better browser for the Diamond.
NoTSR helps sometimes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446928
I rarely use it, prefering to soft reset often.
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It seems that WM is bad at managing memory and lets a number of bad programs take up space after closing. Opera seems to be one of the worst culprits; I wish we had a better browser for the Diamond. QUOTE]
... yes, you're right. Opera seems very 'memory hungry' - can't understand why memory management apps can't release the memory afterwards though. Probably something to do with Microsoft - as usual!!
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stock ROM, a few apps installed (spb phone, ultimatelaunch, weatherpanel) but nothing outrageous.
i have to soft reset about once a day and it's usu when i get the following error:
"cannot open XXXX. a critical component is either missing or cannot start because program memory is unavailable. tap start > settings > system tab > memory, stop programs that did not automatically stop, and try again"
so i follow that path and all seems fine - i have 24MB of storage free and 138MB of program free. only problem is i cannot "stop programs" or whatever it's asking me to do. (as i thought) the memory list is only a place to see used/free memory, not a place to stop programs, right? thought that was thru the task manager, etc. (which, incidentally, i cannot get into cuz i get the error above!!!)
it seems the crash (??) is tied to opera but i cant be sure. just seems to happen more often than not when i'm doing a lot of opening/closing of opera. after that i cant open ANYTHING, keep getting that error, and so i have to reset.
questions are: can i get around a soft reset or any magic button push to reset this area? why does it keep happening???
thanks!
no one...? please...??
I have this problem too, even with the stock rom that came from techinical assistance.
I did flash different roms, different spl version. I did task 28 55aa and a task 29, but nothing works. It keeps freezing. After a freeze, i can't open anything.
I'm so tired about this. Nothing works on my $900 phone.
Htc did not solved the problem and returned to me A PIECE OF BRICK!
during the past few days, the diamond has been telling me that space in the main memory is going low. i go and see that there is only about 1.6 mb left. i usually install programs in the 4gb memory so i don't think those are programs. does opera leave cookies and other browser data in the main memory? what else should i delete to free up space?
Memory eater...
kevinf1990 said:
during the past few days, the diamond has been telling me that space in the main memory is going low. i go and see that there is only about 1.6 mb left. i usually install programs in the 4gb memory so i don't think those are programs. does opera leave cookies and other browser data in the main memory? what else should i delete to free up space?
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Opera eats LOADS of storage memory, as does Google Maps and lots of other stuff. There are a number of free apps available to clean up your device, but I find the best way is to just soft-reset. All the TEMP stuff is cleared away, and the device is free to run again!
Search the 'Themes, Applications and Software' forum for 'Clear Temp', or 'Clear RAM'... something like that!?
Free Memory on HTC Diamond
I had the same problem and it was my Outlook Mail. I synch with the office and had thousands of emails in my In and Outboxes. Delete from your outlook account on your PC/Laptopn and then resynch. You may need to delete from your device as there may not be enough room left to perform a synch.
Hope that helps
the first thing i did was a soft reset via the red button on the back but the remaining memory stayed the same. also i don't have al ot of email in my inbox. they are usually all deleted
i've been having this problem too, and now my touchflo won't even start up, and the phone has become really really slow. it takes ten minutes to just load a text to read. and right now i can't call anyone and they can't call me....if i do a soft reset, will my contacts be lost?
soft reset is a simple reset, your contacts won't be deleye, but if you do a hard reset, you loose all contacts, setting...
ok thanks, i'll try a soft reset and see what happens. i havent found an answer to my problems using the google search for this site though....
i can't even connect with active sync
Here are some tips:
1. Opera. Press the button at the bottom right and go into "Settings". Then "Privacy", then "Delete Cache". Sometimes the clear temp programs don't find the memory that Opera stores unless you have set them up correctly.
2. Use file explorer to see if you can go into the My Device/My Documents/My Pictures and see if there are any pictures you don't mind deleting. Also, while you are there also check My Music, and My Videos folders. Delete anything you don't want or relocate them into Internal Storage.
3. You can check to see if your Outlook (e-mails, contacts, calendar etc) has too much data. Check this on My Device using File Explorer. You can see a file called pim.vol. I have 2000 calendar appointments, 400 contacts and no e-mails/sms' and mine is 5.25MB in size. I think this is about right. If you have a silly amount of memory in this, then you do have something in Outlook you could delete....
4. Use a program like MemMaid, SKTools or Clear Temp to clean up bad links, registry etc.
5. Google Maps may take up 2MB or so. I think it is limited to around this amount.
6. Use Pocket Mechanic or similar to relocate installed programs to Internal Storage. Note though that some programs still will keep some files on the device memory so you cannot free up all of the memory.
7. Use MemMaid to check to see where all your storage has gone. This has a very good application to show you exactly where it is and also linked to the file explorer so it is easy to go to the offending file and delete it.
8. It is better to back up your phone first just incase you delete anything you shouldn't have.....
9. Flash a new ROM. I use Cloudy's 1.1 one. It is great. He has made two and they both leave you with a lot of free memory. I have many installed programs (mostly on Internal Storage) and I still have over 50MB of free ROM and RAM....
10. Use Diamond Tweak to disable the HTC dialer and use the Windows Dialer instead. I think this will save you about 2MB or RAM. It may not look quite as nice, but you can tart it up a bit with a new dialer skin....
Good luck
So the main directory on my phone has a total of 124 mb of space but my phone says i only have about 8 mb of space left. I connected my tilt to my pc and opened my tilts root directory and checked the size of all the files in it and only got about 32 mb of data. So what am I missing? If my phone can hold 124 mb and im using 32 mb y does it say I only have 8 mb of space left? Also i keep all of my apps and progs along with all my pics, music, .cab files and all other stuff on my 4 GB sd card. Can anyone give me an idea whats going on?
Do you have a bazillion text messages saved on it?
still not enough space.
soooo... yeah i did have a **** ton of txt measages, but i stil have about 60mb of missing space anyone have any other thoughts?
And it's not a cache used by the OS?
Amorphous86 said:
soooo... yeah i did have a **** ton of txt measages, but i stil have about 60mb of missing space anyone have any other thoughts?
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Have subtracted the space taken up by your rom ?
Try these.
all good now.
thanks a ton man that clear temp app did the trick. now i have plenty of free space
i have a similar problem. I have deleted everything i can think of, but the more stuff i delete, the less space i appear to have. I have removed all the programs i could as well, but now it says i have less that 856K storage memory. I had over 5MB full earlier today, but as i was deleting stuff, and removing programs, my free space kept going down. Is windows making copies and storing these items somewhere?
I tried downloading both of the cabs above but it told me a message about an invalid header, so i was unable to try them.
When i look in my "windows" folder, under "My Device" i see a lot of the old programs that i supposedly deleted. I am unable to delete them from that view though. I cant even restore from my Sprite Backup because there is not enough space to restore. I reinstalled my PHM Registry Editor but i am not very familiar with it. Is there a way to delete unneeded things from there?
I dont have a ton of texts messages, but i do have quite a few image messages. I was in the process of sending them to my email, and deleting them when i ran out of space to even be able to open them.
Any suggestions? BTW, i have Windows Mobile 6.0
Last time I ran out of memory it was due to a voice recorder running until there was no room left.
I also had an issue with memory on SD card.
Stylez posted me this handy cab - will let you see what is where
There is also the 'find large files' under the memory tab for a starting point.
Good luck
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Last time I ran out of memory it was due to a voice recorder running until there was no room left.
I also had an issue with memory on SD card.
Stylez posted me this handy cab - will let you see what is where
There is also the 'find large files' under the memory tab for a starting point.
Good luck
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I will give it a try, if it lets me even install it. Last two Cabs it wouldnt allow me to install because of space. I took out the 1 gig SD card i have in the slot, and checked under the memory tab with the "find large files" and only came back with like 4 files, all around 200-300k.
UPDATE: Wouldnt even allow me to install cab file
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I will give it a try, if it lets me even install it. Last two Cabs it wouldnt allow me to install because of space. I took out the 1 gig SD card i have in the slot, and checked under the memory tab with the "find large files" and only came back with like 4 files, all around 200-300k.
UPDATE: Wouldnt even allow me to install cab file
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Can you remove some other programs you have installed to make space? You can always put them back on once you've solved the problem....
Emptying your deleted items might help too...
Drag your pictures and videos over to your pc via activesync....
Did you run Cleartemp? Clearing cache etc ?
If it was me I'd be backing up what I need and doing a hard reset - When the phone gets laggy and clogged up it's the sure fire way to get things running smoothly again...... It would be a must for me!
Thanks for the suggestions. I was able to clear up a decent amount of space by deleting a punch of MMS messages i had. I had been in the process of sending them over to my email because i was at work and couldnt try synching the phone and moving them. I didnt noticed in the settings that it was creating a copy in the "sent" folder, as well as keeping it in the "delete" area. After clearing that up, i saved a bunch of space.
I am still noticing in the Windows folder of My Device that there are a lot of older programs taking up a bunch of space. These are all programs that i deleted or removed at some point. Not sure why they are hanging around.
I have tried using the two cab files posted by denco7, but i am unable to install them. Just tells me they are unsuccessful. Are they specific to a certain version of Windows Mobile? Is there any message logging that would tell me why they failed?
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Thanks for the suggestions. I was able to clear up a decent amount of space by deleting a punch of MMS messages i had. I had been in the process of sending them over to my email because i was at work and couldnt try synching the phone and moving them. I didnt noticed in the settings that it was creating a copy in the "sent" folder, as well as keeping it in the "delete" area. After clearing that up, i saved a bunch of space.
I am still noticing in the Windows folder of My Device that there are a lot of older programs taking up a bunch of space. These are all programs that i deleted or removed at some point. Not sure why they are hanging around.
I have tried using the two cab files posted by denco7, but i am unable to install them. Just tells me they are unsuccessful. Are they specific to a certain version of Windows Mobile? Is there any message logging that would tell me why they failed?
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Try doing a soft reset to kill all processes before installing.