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Hello, I have a quick question but I did not know how to search for it in the forum as it will provide way too many search results, and I dont know if anyone has asked it before.
I basically have a plan that gives me free calling after 5pm, so is there anyway to let the phone automatically reject incoming calls, but not txts, before 5pm on weekdays, and accept all of them on weekends?
Help is greatly appreciated
not sure about the rules where you live but here
you never pay to recieve calls
only when you make them
so even if my balance is 0 and i can't send sms's or make calls
i can always recieve them
ghaith_d said:
Hello, I have a quick question but I did not know how to search for it in the forum as it will provide way too many search results, and I dont know if anyone has asked it before.
I basically have a plan that gives me free calling after 5pm, so is there anyway to let the phone automatically reject incoming calls, but not txts, before 5pm on weekdays, and accept all of them on weekends?
Help is greatly appreciated
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No , but there are comm managers that will let you manually switch off the phone during the day and switch it back on after five
You can configure to receive or reject calls using any of the comm managers out there....but you wont be able to feed in timelines to running those requests. Your best bet would be to set it and apply it manually when required.
I know I can turn off the phone (airplane mode) but I would like to just reject calls, but still be able to recieve and send SMS. As far as I know, if i turn off the radio, then I wont be able to send or recieve SMS either. I'm using Garmin's V8 LITE BTW.
I thank you for the help so far!
I'd use SPB phone suite. It has an option to reject all incoming calls only. Of course msgs and all other services are still active.
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I'd use SPB phone suite. It has an option to reject all incoming calls only. Of course msgs and all other services are still active.
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That's perfect! thank you very much
Still not getting why you'd want to reject incoming calls, as I've never seen a plan where you'd pay for those...
The free calls after 5pm applies to the calls YOU make, those you receive are always free. And the solution to that is watch the time before calling someone
kilrah said:
Still not getting why you'd want to reject incoming calls, as I've never seen a plan where you'd pay for those...
The free calls after 5pm applies to the calls YOU make, those you receive are always free. And the solution to that is watch the time before calling someone
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In Canada, even if you accept the calls, it will take away from minutes that you have. it's ridiculous, I know. But I have unlimited incoming/outgoing calls after 5pm. So I have a voicemail set up, and I have unlimited txting package that i'll use until it becomes 5pm
thats crazy, iv never known people getting charged for receiveing calls unless they were international calls (ie between countries)!
Me either, first time I hear about such a thing! Wow sorry for you, you're being ripped off up there!!
Oh I know lol I was shocked when I came to Canada and heard this...so much for the Great White North
I woke up yesterday morning and had an idea for an app...
Now im not a coder so im not sure how easy it would be but im thinking alot of it should be pretty simple.
Now to the core of the app.
My thoughts are for an app that goes and retrieves your voicemail and saves it as a mp3 on your phone.
1. When a message is recieved from a certain number the app is triggered
2. The app starts recording the voice mail that is left.
3. (this is the tricky part) detect when the voicemail has finish and send the no. to delete the message. For my voicemail i press 3 to delete the messages.
4. Hang up the call and save the message to your phone.
Now there is a few reasons behind this.
It will save on money for some people, as i know here in Aus some companies charge to ring your voicemail no. So this app could download it and you could listen to it as much as possible.
If its important you could save it off to your computer or email to someone else to listen to.
As i said im not a coder but i thought this might be a good idea for someont o look into. Would have been good for the ADC2 but entries have finished for that now.
Anyway if any developers want to run with this go a head.
Great idea! But it has already been done. Check the market
seriously, lol
Whats the name of it
Thanks for the heads up
pf fusion voicemail, youmail I think, tmobile visual voicemail. I personally use pf fusion visual voicemail. It saves the messages to your sd card, has a nice user interface, and also backs them up to their server so you can retrieve them online.
lookout4theyeti said:
pf fusion voicemail, youmail I think, tmobile visual voicemail. I personally use pf fusion visual voicemail. It saves the messages to your sd card, has a nice user interface, and also backs them up to their server so you can retrieve them online.
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youmail does exactly the same thing. in addition to that, if you buy a youmail premium subscription (they have several levels depending on how many voicemails you regularly get) you can get the voicemails transcribed to text and displayed as well.
another one to add to the list is google voice. also does the above mentioned features.
Thanks for your suggestions everyone.
There is an issue with the suggestions though.
I live in Australia and all the options are for the US.
YouMail and PhoneFusion both need your voicmail to be diverted to them and GoogleVoice isnt here yet.
What I was thinking of is something that runs from your phone.
The App calls your pre defined Voicemail number and records the message and saves it to your phone.
Would work worldwide and you wouldnt need to change your voicemail details.
Anyway, just a thought
I understand what you're trying to say and from a developer standpoint, I can fill you in as to why it wouldnt work.
First, voicemail is like call forwarding. After your phone stops ringing, nothing is actually happening on your phone. The call is forwarded after a preset number of rings, or an action (like pressing the end key to ignore the call) to a voicemail server, which answers and records the message. At that point, your phone is completely out of the loop, so the idea of having it record to both the phone and the voicemail server is dead right there because it just cant be done. The way youmail, t-mobile vvm, google voice and phonefusion simulate this is by recording the message on their servers and then downloading it to your phone using your data connection.
Now, it would be possible to have your phone do the recording after a certain number of rings, like an answering machine, but it would be ridiculously process intensive because it would have to be running at all times. This would do two things:
1. slow down your phone considerably.
2. eat battery like you wouldnt believe.
And whats the point of having something like this if your phone is going to be dead all the time and unable to record messages anyway?
So yes, its possible, but not feasible. GV should be in australia soon, seeing as the wave development team is entirely based there. So keep your fingers crossed until then.
ok I wanted this app too, but you think too hard.
Disable provider voicemail.
After 10 rings, let phone pick up call and play message. Then a beep, and the phone starts recording.
No external voicemail server needed, just have an anwering machine application.
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Now, it would be possible to have your phone do the recording after a certain number of rings, like an answering machine, but it would be ridiculously process intensive because it would have to be running at all times. This would do two things:
1. slow down your phone considerably.
2. eat battery like you wouldnt believe.
And whats the point of having something like this if your phone is going to be dead all the time and unable to record messages anyway?
So yes, its possible, but not feasible.
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Why would slow your phone down so much? It could be service, not doing anything untill a call is recieved. If it rings too long it takes over.
It doesn't need to record all the time.
Try HulloMail
can't find HulloMail in the market
i also would like to have this "answering machine" app... and I also don't understand why this would slow down the phone, or eat up a lot of battery. as someone said already, it would run in the background (like "toggle settings" "missed call" and all the other services do) and just really start to work when a call comes in and it has to play a message and record the callers message.
the only downside (with which i can live) is certainly that the phone has to be switched on all the time, because off it couldn't record anything. for me that is no problem, i have a docking station at home and in the office, so when i am not running around, it is charged.
technically i see this as very feasible
i wonder whether devs shy away from this... because actually doing this is a major attack at the "revenue machine" of mobile operators, because - well - a local soft answering machine would take a huge amount of calling minutes away from the operators.
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First, voicemail is like call forwarding. After your phone stops ringing, nothing is actually happening on your phone. The call is forwarded after a preset number of rings, or an action (like pressing the end key to ignore the call) to a voicemail server, which answers and records the message. At that point, your phone is completely out of the loop, so the idea of having it record to both the phone and the voicemail server is dead right there because it just cant be done.
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Actually that's not exactly true. If you take a look in the Android Call Settings. Under GSM/CDMA Call Settings > Call Forwarding, you'll see that Call Forwarding when busy, unanswered and unreachable can all be disabled. It's possible one could write a program to catch the call after it rings X times, but I'm not sure if Android has that kind of hook in its API yet.
But as for it being impossible due to the forwarding, that's utterly false.
Quite simple.
Cancel the carrier answering service. (I hate the term "voicemail" -- everyone who uses it should be shot dead).
Have the program answer the phone after some defined number of rings and record it.
1) It would NOT slow down your phone.
2) It would NOT eat battery.
Don't know where that guy got the idea that it would... it WON'T.
Can anyone give me a basic run down on the Google Voice interface. I have not been invited and am extremly curious if it is everything I have heard.A basic description would be great. Thanks in advance.
Whether it's "good" or not all depends on what you want from it.
GV gives you a new number, which can be in any area code, whether you live there or not. Changes to this number cost $10 later, but the first is free.
You have flexibility with GV to add your landline or even other cell phones to the account so that any or all receive the call when it comes in. You can set up a friend's landline as a temporary number, for example, if you have no cell signal at his place.
GV gives you voicemail with custom greetings for various contacts. I much prefer YouMail for this, but to each his own. In addition, you can set certain callers to go straight to voicemail or which phone rings when they dial your GV number.
GV allows you to screen calls *while* they're being recorded to voicemail. You can choose to "pick up" at any point.
You can also record calls in progress.
GV gives cheaper rates for international calls.
If you tell a bunch of people to call you at a certain time, you can add them to a conference call on the fly.
I'm sure there's something I've missed. It's a pretty flexible service. It allows your number to be tied to *you* rather than to any particular device or carrier.
Voicemails can be transcribed and sent as text in an e-mail.
http://www.google.com/googlevoice/about.html
I absolutely love it. I don't get reception in my office, so I use GV to route any calls to my cell during work hours to my desk phone and work cell. I use the GV number for situations where I don't want sales people calling my home or real cell and if I'm giving my number to someone I will most likely never see again
SMS free of charge was what brought me in - and the latest update to the app brings real-time syncing (previously the lowest possible refresh setting was 5 minutes). I already pay ATT for a data plan, why the hell should I have to pay an extra $15 for what amounts to a miniscule amount of data? Google Voice solved that problem.
I moved myself entirely over to GV, no one calls my actual cell number. I haven't had any significant issues so far, and I've been using it for half a year.
I only use it for the voicemail, which is more than enough reason to use it. You use your same phone number but get digital transcribed + audio voicemails with a very clean interface, also available on the web. You can set up sms and email notifications too.
The one drawback I can think of is this:
If you use GV completely, unless you have one of the unlimited plans from t-mobile (or your GV number set up under the old MyFaves plan) it uses minutes like any other call. No mobile-to-mobile anymore. Anybody care to back me up or refute this?
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The one drawback I can think of is this:
If you use GV completely, unless you have one of the unlimited plans from t-mobile (or your GV number set up under the old MyFaves plan) it uses minutes like any other call. No mobile-to-mobile anymore. Anybody care to back me up or refute this?
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Really? Damn no wonder they got rid of MyFaves. They realized this and made a fix by removing it completely maybe. hahaha.
Have to admit I am payng ALOT 95/month for unlimited everything while my girlfriend pays only 50/month for the same thing with Boost.
The only thing with Boost is that the phones are trash.
beartard said:
Whether it's "good" or not all depends on what you want from it.
GV gives you a new number, which can be in any area code, whether you live there or not. Changes to this number cost $10 later, but the first is free.
You have flexibility with GV to add your landline or even other cell phones to the account so that any or all receive the call when it comes in. You can set up a friend's landline as a temporary number, for example, if you have no cell signal at his place.
GV gives you voicemail with custom greetings for various contacts. I much prefer YouMail for this, but to each his own. In addition, you can set certain callers to go straight to voicemail or which phone rings when they dial your GV number.
GV allows you to screen calls *while* they're being recorded to voicemail. You can choose to "pick up" at any point.
You can also record calls in progress.
GV gives cheaper rates for international calls.
If you tell a bunch of people to call you at a certain time, you can add them to a conference call on the fly.
I'm sure there's something I've missed. It's a pretty flexible service. It allows your number to be tied to *you* rather than to any particular device or carrier.
Voicemails can be transcribed and sent as text in an e-mail.
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Can you confirm that if you receive a phonecall out of state but receive or make a call through your Google Voice # it is still considered local??
I've had it for a while, but only just started using it on my phone, although my wife uses it to call back to england (nothing cheaper).
To get around it using minutes just figure out what local access number it is dialing, and add that to your fave fives (I'm on the original day one g1 contract still, so I still have fave fives)
For me the sms and vm management are the best things about it, but it's also nice to know I won't ever have to port a number over if I switch carriers
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Can you confirm that if you receive a phonecall out of state but receive or make a call through your Google Voice # it is still considered local??
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I'm not sure I understand the question. I live in Florida and have a GV number in Atlanta. Calls from Atlantans to my GV number are considered local for them.
And about MyFaves, I believe GV was the main reason tmo got rid of the plan. If you use GV for everything and have your GV number as one of your fave five, you'd use zero minutes from your bucket as far as tmo is concerned.
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The one drawback I can think of is this:
If you use GV completely, unless you have one of the unlimited plans from t-mobile (or your GV number set up under the old MyFaves plan) it uses minutes like any other call. No mobile-to-mobile anymore. Anybody care to back me up or refute this?
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Mobile-to-mobile still applies for incoming calls (at least on ATT). I would imagine Tmobile (or any carrier) would work the same way.
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I'm not sure I understand the question. I live in Florida and have a GV number in Atlanta. Calls from Atlantans to my GV number are considered local for them.
And about MyFaves, I believe GV was the main reason tmo got rid of the plan. If you use GV for everything and have your GV number as one of your fave five, you'd use zero minutes from your bucket as far as tmo is concerned.
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Got it, you answered my question even though it wasn't well put. Thanks for confirming!
Damn!! I got suckered into the "Loyalty Plan" now everyone and anyone can use the plan. I should of stuck with my MyFaves plan, worst mistake of my life taking this service off.
According to an APP i downloaded called GV dialer. apparently it will route your call through internet and not use your minutes when you dial.
now i dunno if thats true, but im testing it at the moment. but it makes my own google voice call me and then it calls the person i'd like to call.
and btw i love google voice ^^ great if you need a business number.
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According to an APP i downloaded called GV dialer. apparently it will route your call through internet and not use your minutes when you dial.
now i dunno if thats true, but im testing it at the moment. but it makes my own google voice call me and then it calls the person i'd like to call.
and btw i love google voice ^^ great if you need a business number.
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I tried GV dialer on my old mytouch with no sim, it didn't go through, said i wasn't registered on a network. =( So i'm guessing it doesn't use wifi. Not sure about 3g/edge on network.
Bzerk1 said:
According to an APP i downloaded called GV dialer. apparently it will route your call through internet and not use your minutes when you dial.
now i dunno if thats true, but im testing it at the moment. but it makes my own google voice call me and then it calls the person i'd like to call.
and btw i love google voice ^^ great if you need a business number.
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The only difference when calling between GVDialer and the official GV app is that GVDialer will count as an incoming call and Google's GV app will count as an outgoing call. So if you have free incoming it would be benificial to use GVDialer to make your phone calls.
Been using it for quite some time now.. mainly for the SMS feature.. too bad I can't send SMS to European numbers tried to SMS the in-laws using GV but no go..
I am now using GV as my work voicemail. Took a while to get our stubborn carrier to set up the No Answer/Busy forwarding, and I had to set my work number in GV as "mobile" to enable the forwarding options. The end result is that when I don't pick up my work number, the callers get forwarded to my GV voicemail.
The only drawback is that in Google Voice the greeting can only be set based on caller ID, so you can assign it to contacts and groups. This means that you cannot set a greeting based on which one of your numbers was called, i.e. you can't set a separate "work" greeting and assign it to your work number.
That reminds me...one thing I despise about GV is the inability to *upload* custom greetings. Their system of recording-from-the-handset-while-calling-in really blows.
That's why I prefer YouMail for voicemail. Its standard greeting greets your callers by name (if you have them in your contact list saved on YouMail's site).
heh, I was just looking for a way to upload greetings yesterday and found this out...
very disappointed, I was going to give each of my contacts their own private greeting - which would have really screwed with a couple of my friends
I'm re-visiting the idea of sip and/or some voip option. Google voice is great, but uses airtime. What's everyone doing for free data/3G/Wifi calling with voip? The phone companies are charging ridiculous prices for basic service and would like to mostly make outbound calls that don't require airtime or use minutes.
Thanks!
Sipdroid will tie in your Google Voice number and set up a pbxes account to route calls through VoIP. It works pretty good.
Or get the app mentioned in one of the 7 threads about this exact same topic already. I can't remember what its called, but its an all-in-one tool. No csipsimple and/or pbxes necessary.
edit: ya know, the thread thats on the first page of this forum titled, "[Guide] Unlimited Wifi/3G VoIP Calling"... I don't expect you to search, so here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16129412#post16129412
I use grooveip
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Or get the app mentioned in one of the 7 threads about this exact same topic already. I can't remember what its called, but its an all-in-one tool. No csipsimple and/or pbxes necessary.
edit: ya know, the thread thats on the first page of this forum titled, "[Guide] Unlimited Wifi/3G VoIP Calling"... I don't expect you to search, so here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16129412#post16129412
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good thing i didnt ask the same damn question, lol
autosearch on new posts was a brilliant idea =)
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I use grooveip
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Same here, GrooveIP work great over 3g or wifi and does NOT use minutes.
+1 on the groove ip
i spent the last day downloadin every friggin app they have and groove ip was the only one that just worked without needin a PhD, and it didnt mess with everything else on my phone either.
the one thing i haven't figured out is how to get incoming calls to my google voice number to ring on my phone. i can do outgoing calls just fine, and i get incoming text messages. but incoming calls to my google voice go straight to voicemail.
im hopin i just have a setting wrong somewhere that eventually i will find and correct, but free outgoing calls is good enough for now i guess
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im hopin i just have a setting wrong somewhere that eventually i will find and correct, but free outgoing calls is good enough for now i guess
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Try this, go into the Google Voice settings (on PC) and make sure that the Do Not Disturb is off and also turn off Screen Callers.
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Try this, go into the Google Voice settings (on PC) and make sure that the Do Not Disturb is off and also turn off Screen Callers.
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yeah, i found the "call screening" setting previously and was hoping that was why but it had no effect. i did verify that the do not disturb is unchecked as well
i did find one thing i had overlooked, under the "fowarding phones - foward calls to:" i unchecked the actual number of my cell phone (the one provided by at&t, as in my "real" cell phone number).
i was thinking that having calls fowarded to my actual cell number would defeat the whole purpose, essentially just fowarding the free google voice calls to my cell as a normal incoming call and therefore using my minutes.
knowing more now then i did then about how google works by "intercepting" the calls, i'm guessing this is probably what i did wrong...
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knowing more now then i did
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than, not "then"
sorry, just my OCD rearing its ugly head, lol...
death2verizon said:
yeah, i found the "call screening" setting previously and was hoping that was why but it had no effect. i did verify that the do not disturb is unchecked as well
i did find one thing i had overlooked, under the "fowarding phones - foward calls to:" i unchecked the actual number of my cell phone (the one provided by at&t, as in my "real" cell phone number).
i was thinking that having calls fowarded to my actual cell number would defeat the whole purpose, essentially just fowarding the free google voice calls to my cell as a normal incoming call and therefore using my minutes.
knowing more now then i did then about how google works by "intercepting" the calls, i'm guessing this is probably what i did wrong...
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than, not "then"
sorry, just my OCD rearing its ugly head, lol...
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Actually, if you are using groove ip, you have to have incoming calls set to ring Google chat in your Google voice settings. And then anytime you're signed onto groove ip, calls will come to you.
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free PSTN calls? no such legit thing.
@google voice fanbois
Have you no [privacy] issue with how google bridges calls? Ever GV call has THREE parties: you, the other guy, AND google.
your "free" calls seem to have a high price tag, much as adware apps do.
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how long would you spend trying to find a free mobile phone WITH a free provider?
I'm in a slightly larger sip/pbx pond.. I pay an internets pbx host and configure asterisk to my liking.
My privacy is not a commodity
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Have you no [privacy] issue with how google bridges calls? Ever GV call has THREE parties: you, the other guy, AND google.
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I am always amazed at how freaked out people get over privacy issues. Do you really think that google is going to take the time to listen in on my calls? Or read my emails? Or look at my calendar? What about what your bank does with all your transaction details? Or your ISP with all the sites you visit? Or your telephone company with all your phone records and the possibility of them illegally recording your phone calls, or at the very least, tracking where you are calling?
There are countless entities that keep "private" information. Apparantly, we have total faith in the other ones I mentioned, but somehow think that Google is out to get all of us and wants our first-born child? I really don't think Google cares about all the text messages I send my brother about geeking out with random tech bits, or when I call my mom using GrooVeIP from Germany, or all emails I get from youtube people asking me to subscribe to them, or knowing that I have a weekly thing called Institute that happens Wednesday nights at 7:30PM because it is on my calendar. What are they going to do with this information? Are they going to try and create a robot clone of me to take over my life?
The point is that there is a ton of information about YOU out there and a ton of different companies have it. And they have had it long before google ever came around. If you are really concerned about your information being held by 3rd party companies, you better figure out a way to live completely self-sustained.
Love Google Voice but it's making and receiving phone calls nearly useless. With GV phone # integration enabled it regularly take 45-50 seconds to place a call - specifically, from the time you hit dial to hearing the first dialing ring, there's almost a full minute pause. I routinely miss calls because the phone never rings. I'm assuming there's a lot of router hopping or whatever going on over on Google's end.
I've disabled GV for the moment and I'm right back to 3-4 seconds to placing/receiving calls.
Not sure when this started exactly but I started noticing it well over a month ago. Not a KK/root/s-onoff/etc issue afaict.
(fwiw, no 'don't complain about a free service' replies please.. we don't subscription fee, but we do pay for GV with the data mining and ad hits they get from us)