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Big or maybe not so big Locked out of Phone issue, Please Help

Here's the story, I had a TMobile G1 Retail phone, I hacked it installed a new bootloader yadda yadda and put the Android Dev 1 or whatever is the latest version onto the phone, set it up with a gmail account etc, all is well.
Well the reason I did this is so I could give the phone to my wife who lives in the Dominican Republic, Well I thought to be the safe hubby and put the Visual lock on it and set a real simple pattern for her to remember.
Her friends are dense at times, and repeatedly botched the visual locked until it asked her for her credentials and locked her out of the phone.
Now the catch is she doesn't have any sort of data plan, I don't even know if a compatible service exists with Orange over there.
How can I unlock her phone without it being able to communicate with Google via a data connection, is a hard reset in order? Will that prompt her to set up a new account, or if I remember correctly do you need to even setup an account just for basic phone usage.
I'd just hate for her to lose all the apps/games I put on there with a hard reset or having to track down someone technical over there to push a new install.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485988
No need to get the entire sdk, just send the adb.exe and adbwinapi.dll files.
By the way, if the phone doesn't have a dataplan then i'm assuming it's not logged into Google? If that's the case why not just deactivate the lock screen? The main purpose is to prevent casual access to your GMail/GCal/etc if you were to lose your phone.

Thanks for the reply, and yeah well after she told me what happened, I immediately asked myself the same question, I was busy during the visit and the little things that are important I neglected to conceive.
I should have gone through and turned off alot of settings but I just didn't think about it at the time.
Thanks again.

G1 got stolen, a few questions

So, unfortunately I got mugged and my G1 was stolen.
I already changed all relevant passwords and will soon contact the network and police so they can lock the phone and the card.
However, I just wanted to be sure that if I change my google account password, the G1 can no longer access my data without the new password.
Or if the G1 always has access to it despite any changes.

wap32 said:
So, unfortunately I got mugged and my G1 was stolen.
I already changed all relevant passwords and will soon contact the network and police so they can lock the phone and the card.
However, I just wanted to be sure that if I change my google account password, the G1 can no longer access my data without the new password.
Or if the G1 always has access to it despite any changes.
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Within a few minutes of a password change Android will lose sync and a pop up will hit the notification bar to update the password.

Sorry to hear about that... =(

Are you getting a new one? If so, make sure this time you install a GPS tracker, there are many programs on the market. I use GPStracker by instamapper, it works really well. You need to create an account and enter the device code you get online onto your G1. From there you can text your phone and it will enable GPS, and you can view where your phone is online. Here is the site, and i am terribly sorry that happened to you!!
http://www.instamapper.com/

Thanks for all the input guys.
The thing is, first thing the thieves usually do (as they did in this case) is take out the battery on the phone.
Also, they usually also get rid of the SIM card, and insert another one, most likely of a different network, so the G1 won't have internet access.
That kinda makes those programs useless.

wap32 said:
Thanks for all the input guys.
The thing is, first thing the thieves usually do (as they did in this case) is take out the battery on the phone.
Also, they usually also get rid of the SIM card, and insert another one, most likely of a different network, so the G1 won't have internet access.
That kinda makes those programs useless.
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That's why I don't unlock my phone for another network until it's absolutely necessary. If they have to unlock it, that takes time with the correct SIM installed (and then I am able to track it).
Out of curiosity, have you tried looking on Google's Latitude?

momentarylapseofreason said:
That's why I don't unlock my phone for another network until it's absolutely necessary. If they have to unlock it, that takes time with the correct SIM installed (and then I am able to track it).
Out of curiosity, have you tried looking on Google's Latitude?
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Latitude wasn't activated...

owned.
well you can tell t-mobile and they can probably track your sim.

G1-evolve said:
owned.
well you can tell t-mobile and they can probably track your sim.
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They wont. They will disable the IMEI (if recorded) on their network but that's it.

Yeah, no chances of SIM tracking, but they can disable the IMEI on a national level, essentially making the phone useless on the country.

Well, I know I've never had to worry about being hacked with my Trackstick.

Any application you can get for tracking your phone's location will only be useful if you LOSE your phone... then you can follow it.
If you want to be able to track a STOLEN phone, you need to think along a different line....
First off, the FIRST TWO THINGS that the thief will do are... 1) change SIM, 2) FACTORY RESET. That means that anything installed on the DATA partition... is gone.
So what do you do? Obviously, you need to install something on the SYSTEM partition. Not only that, but it must not have any configurations that are stored on the data partition.
Easy and simple solution is this;
You rig up a bootup script that checks if the installed SIMCARD is yours. If it is NOT, it will send an SMS message to some phone number, i.e., your googlevoice number. You will then have the thief's phone number. For further fun, CELL SITE ID, maybe GPS coordinates within the SMS message. And periodically repeat.
Note: The phone number may or may not be traceable by itself. To catch the bastard, you need to find a HOT SOUNDING girl to seduce him over the phone and arrange to meet up with him for a "good time". You then go there and beat the snot out of him and retrieve your phone. Or even better, you go there with cops to slammer him.

That sucks, I'd be lost without my G1

Help..unable to register with google.

I just purchased a G1 from someone on craigslist... popped in my sim card and registered it andn used it for calls and text for the last two days.
Today I decided to change my rom from crb43 to dreaimg.nbh and when i went to start it up it says I can't connect to google to register because i do not have a data plan, or WIFI in the house to do it the other way.
My question is there any rom to flash or other way i can skip registration or register it anyway?
I also know no one with a T-mobile data plan....
I'm lost and pissed.... any help would be really appreciated.
OLSTORO

If you searched for (or even clicked in the "Informative Thread...") How to register without a data plan... You would have found this thread.
In order to actually register it you will need to get it on the internet at some point. But you can skip it.
I am assuming you are trying to gain root access to load a modified firmware on your phone, in which case, the newer ADB based firmwares allow you to bypass registration.
And seriously, three threads for one question? I'm not trying to be a **** or anything (maybe I am), but do you really need three threads (two in one forum) for one question? Rest assured the mods will delete two of your threads, and if they are in a bad mood they might delete this one too.

A stupid assumption regarding activation...

I got so excited about all this talk about roms and what not (Yes, I'm new here and haven't gotten a G1 yet) and completely forgot about the whole activate and unlock thing. I've been spoiled by how easy the iphone modders have made it but I'm not unwilling or unable to do it the hard way. Presently I have an unlocked iphone that I'm using for my prepaid tmobile sim, works fine. From what I've read around here, I'll need a data plan (the easy way) to activate the phone or will need RC29 or downgrade to RC29 and use adb to bypass activation. For some reason, I just assumed that all this flashing and coding frenzy would take care of the activation but I see that is not the case. If I'm mistaken or something has recently changed, please correct me. Otherwise, I'll expect to do some fiddling in getting the activation to work over wifi. Once it is done, will I need to do this every time I wipe and re-flash or just when I wipe and flash to stock?
I had considered getting a 2-year contract in getting the G1 (or the mytouch) but I prefer no contract since I don't use voice or data enough to justify the monthly cost.

megaoptimus said:
I got so excited about all this talk about roms and what not (Yes, I'm new here and haven't gotten a G1 yet) and completely forgot about the whole activate and unlock thing. I've been spoiled by how easy the iphone modders have made it but I'm not unwilling or unable to do it the hard way. Presently I have an unlocked iphone that I'm using for my prepaid tmobile sim, works fine. From what I've read around here, I'll need a data plan (the easy way) to activate the phone or will need RC29 or downgrade to RC29 and use adb to bypass activation. For some reason, I just assumed that all this flashing and coding frenzy would take care of the activation but I see that is not the case. If I'm mistaken or something has recently changed, please correct me. Otherwise, I'll expect to do some fiddling in getting the activation to work over wifi. Once it is done, will I need to do this every time I wipe and re-flash or just when I wipe and flash to stock?
I had considered getting a 2-year contract in getting the G1 (or the mytouch) but I prefer no contract since I don't use voice or data enough to justify the monthly cost.
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If you don't plan on getting a dataplan (for example if you want to primarily run on wifi), I suggest you flash an ADP1-based build when you've acquired root. ADP1-based builds have an option on the Google sign-in screen to bypass sign-in. That way you can get into the settings and set up your wifi without having to fiddle with the adb-based activation bypass methods.

jashsu said:
If you don't plan on getting a dataplan (for example if you want to primarily run on wifi), I suggest you flash an ADP1-based build when you've acquired root. ADP1-based builds have an option on the Google sign-in screen to bypass sign-in. That way you can get into the settings and set up your wifi without having to fiddle with the adb-based activation bypass methods.
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Ah..I'm not read enough about this subject to know which builds are ADP1 based but I'm sure it's not hard to discover. Also, I did read (but I would like to hear some confirming reports) of being able to activate the phone with a prepaid tomobile sim, I figured that was the case at first but there seemed to be more of a consensus that a data plan was required for activation.

Just use adb and activate through wifi

CompactDstrxion said:
Just use adb and activate through wifi
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trust me, its easier than it looks. It may be intimidating at first, but its not too hard as long as you follow the directions

B-man007 said:
trust me, its easier than it looks. It may be intimidating at first, but its not too hard as long as you follow the directions
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No doubt, a lot of things seem much more involved when ya gotta write it down for others. I presume once it is activated that the prepaid sim will work without having to unlock since it is a tmo sim.

Questions about G1 ... ATT... Blocked Data... Debacle!

So my friend is giving me her old G1 since she got a new phone and it is basically sitting in her glove compartment. She has T-Mobile I have AT&T.
I am on a family plan with no data plan and my parents went so far as to put a data block on all the phones. I read a few sites and I heard from one that once the phone is unlocked it is a one time deal, if this is true this may be good for me.
A) Since my friends phone is obviously unlocked since it was hers and she used it, if I put my ATT sim card in (she's not gonna factory reset), will it work? What would I have to do
Since I dont have a data plan and my parents blocked all data (internet, not messaging) but I have Wifi, can i tell my friend before she mails me her G1 to enable wifi?
B) Since I don't plan on getting wifi anytime soon, this would be good no? Ofcourse if question A is correct that I wouldn't have to unlock it and activate it.
Ba) If question A is fail, could i still activate the phone via my wifi on the gmail account set up?
So those are all the questions I have, I would like to know what I should do when i get the phone in anycase because I would really like to use it, and i plan to use the wifi feature instead of paying for a data plan since my town has a lot of free wifi hotspots!
Let me know!!!
- Joey
you can also reach me at,
AIM: inability2sleep

If the phone is up to date, it should allow you to skip the account sync process (which is one reason data is required). That way it should allow you to get into the phone and activate wifi yourself.
Of course it wouldn't hurt to have you friend do it for you. Convenience and all.
you meant to say "Since I don't plan on getting data anytime soon..." right?
If she doesn't factory reset, you can add multiple accounts on a single G1 through settings. So give that a go too. The main thing is, that before donut, it was mandatory to sync over data service to activate your phone on a fresh G1. So you should be ok.

Hey Innovated,
Shouldn't have any issues doing that. If you pop in the SIM card, the phone will first say Emergency Calls Only. You have to go into Settings, Wireless Controls, Mobile Networks, then Network Operators and select AT&T.
If it pops up with an unlock code screen, then you need to purchase an unlock code. eBay is usually good, around $5.
After that, everything will work. As you don't have a data plan, and have a data block in place, there's no need to enter new APN details.
As for wifi, you can turn it on or off as you want. To turn on and off, click Settings, Wireless Controls, Enable WiFi.
Hope this helps!
-XBrav

Wow thank you so much for both of your fast replies! This will help so much and hopefully it is as easy as you say! I can't wait to have this cool phone!

My friend wants to know if it can still work if she can factory reset it, and add my gmail account to activate it before mailing me the phone... Would that still be the same as what she 'WAS' going to do in my first description?

As far as I know that can work. What the sync does is add your contacts, and allow the phone to sync with your google account. With 1.6 and higher, android allows you to skip the step, but it should be possible if she does it for you.
Worst comes to worse, you factory reset and hit "skip" . So yup. hope that helps.

even if im ATT and she's Tmobile?