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Iphone Rom ?

Is there an Iphone Rom for the wizard??? Ive only found programs that change different things seperately - like the dialer, contacts - and stuff like that. Is there any complete ROMS out there which emulate the iphone or something close to it?
Id put up a poll to see the number of people who's be looking for an iphone rom but i don't really know how to do that

yeah me too eagerly waiting for such type of rom.......

sounds like a nice idea, but to be honest most of the (iphoney) mods are kinda slow on the wizard, especially ifonz which does look very nice.
so you would probably end up with a rom ythat was quite slow and not much space left.
justmy 2c though

Try out Winterface. Find yourself a nice clean VANILLA rom without all the M2D or HTC Home horse****, download Winterface and give it a shot. It's a paid program, but it's only $16.95 to unlock once your 2 week trial expires. If you like the iPhone UI though, you'll like Winterface.

I've seen a few of them here and there but along with the other comments the general conscencus that ive read was that while they were pretty they were also slow. There was a nice little contact manager that ovvered the same neat finger/scrolly flip action but i cannot remember the name off of the top of my head. I think i'll go do a search and see if i can come up with it. And give it another chance.
Shane

Sure the programs are slow tht emulate iphone UI but if properly built into a rom like HTC stuff is done i hope it would work fine. Lets hope a Rom cook drops by here and we get smthin!!!

That program was called pocketCM. You can get it from www.pocketcm.com It has a few iPhone styled themes available. Might get you closer to where you're wanting to be without a rom.
Shane

This is what I've been looking for too!!!! Somebody with the ability, make it happen for 2009.

It looks like someone is undertaking this task and it looks very promising. He seems to be open to suggestions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472454

Why would anyone want the iPhone rom? I have a friend who has an iPhone and my wizard with a 2 year old WM6 will kick the iPhone's butt any day of the week. Yes the iPhone has prettier stuff, but I'd rather take substance over style any day of the week. And with Skyfire browser, I can surf like mad. The roms I know of that are somewhat close are resource hogs and leave very little space for any apps. No thanks, not for me. You guys have fun. When a rom comes out that is as stylish as the iPhone, but kicks butt like my Jaguar, then I may consider it.

On second thought...
Actually, thinking about it, just to shut up idiots who paid way too much for an iPhone, this would be cool. Then I can say that my 3 year old phone does the same and looks the same as your loser iPhone, and since my phone isn't on lock-down, I can add or change anything about it at will.

akashastrega said:
Why would anyone want the iPhone rom?
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akashastrega said:
the iPhone has prettier stuff
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Why doesn't wm6.5 have cool animations like minimizing animations like the iphone!!!?

can anybody come up with animations for htc touch pro running wm6.5

Why doesn't the iphone have a physical keyboard like the touch pro !!!?

because it's not an iphone. If you want cool minimizing animations get an iPhone. If you want productivity keep the TP
Edit: Above post is to the OP not you sevenalive lol. it sounds weird reading your post right before mine lol. U posted a minute b4 me .

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can anybody come up with animations for htc touch pro running wm6.5
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Why can't i pay $70 a month for tethering like on the iphone when i have to pay $0 on the touch pro..... some things in life aren't fair for everything else theres Steve errr Apple - http://i.gizmodo.com/5285898/bart-tears-down-dvd-jons-apple+baiting-doubletwist-ad

the iphone's a great piece of machinery and there's no denying it, but if people want something to be like an iphone than get the real thing. i hate these iphone themes and wannabe applications, so i say skip the damn aspirations to be iphone-like, or to be as cool and unique as the other millions and millions of iphone users
xda fits more for hardcore users, not sheep

Why do you all keep putting down the iphone and flaming about it when that wasn't the question? I'm also someone who likes the animations that phones like the iPhone and Palm Pre have and would love to get them on wm6.5. If the iphone had a keyboard and was on verizon, i would've went straight for it. We already know that the iphone doesn't have a keyboard and costs $75 a month so what's the point of writing that? No one's asking to turn their htc into an iphone or even copy the interface, it's just a simple question. If you don't know the answer, don't waste everyon'e time by ranting about the iphone's faults. I'd settle for just animations whether they look like the iphone/palm pre or not. It makes rotating the phone or going back to the home screen look much smoother.
Anyway, i have a question that ACTUALLY pertains to this topic. Is there a way to get the accelerometer effects like the omnia/iphone/palm pre or like Opera 9.7 when the device is turned? I like how the page kind of flips when it's rotating.

I feel for you :] I like some animations like that as well.
Granted, I'm an avid iPhone basher also, but I do like 2 things about it, and one is the animations and visual effects.
...the other is the capacitive touch screen. But, hey, they can't use their phone with a glove on. ;]

thank u! u understand what am saying i love my htc but **** come with some cool animations that all am saying!!

Wouldn't it be possible to design a Flash based menu system?
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http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/1...comes-freestyl-windows-mobile-program-launch/

some iphone interfaces do have animations
and if you want the palm pre interface for opening apps that are up you can combine butler with taskfacade. both which were out before web os was announced
butler turns your capacitive area into an app launcher
and taskfacade can be mapped to one of the areas and it will animate zooming out of the app and show all that are open. pretty snazzy

jaszek said:
because it's not an iphone. If you want cool minimizing animations get an iPhone. If you want productivity keep the TP
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Do you also believe that if you want to edit video and photos, you need to get a Mac....If you're going to set up a file server, set up a linux box....and if you're going to type up a report for your boss, you need to have windows? I'm pretty sure all three OS's can accomplish each of those tasks, even if one may have a slight edge on another (even if only by stereotype). If everybody thought like that, there wouldn't even be standard Desktop Linux users.
The notion of having some animation on the screen shouldn't be limited to a few specific handsets. We have the technology, we just have to make it work the way we want.
bravo261 said:
the iphone's a great piece of machinery and there's no denying it, but if people want something to be like an iphone than get the real thing. i hate these iphone themes and wannabe applications, so i say skip the damn aspirations to be iphone-like, or to be as cool and unique as the other millions and millions of iphone users
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I agree to an extent, I think those mock iPhone apps are useless, but that's because I think the iPhone interface is useless. I prefer to think those apps exist for another reason...to show iPhone users that there's nothing special or cool about their phone. I like being able to say, "I can do everything your phone can, but can your phone do this?" At that point, I can show off the other home screens, interfaces, and tools that they can never aspire towards because of the mountains of limits put on their phones.
The home screen on the iPhone sucks, we all know this...but it's made cool to the millions because of a few simple animations. The complainers on this thread are ignoring how much more appeal can be gained with such small improvements. Just think about the incredibly simple animations they use, and how easy some of them would be to duplicate (or improve upon).
Alright, I've probably said too much...I'll go sit down and shut up...

speed_pour said:
Do you also believe that if you want to edit video and photos, you need to get a Mac....If you're going to set up a file server, set up a linux box....and if you're going to type up a report for your boss, you need to have windows? I'm pretty sure all three OS's can accomplish each of those tasks, even if one may have a slight edge on another (even if only by stereotype). If everybody thought like that, there wouldn't even be standard Desktop Linux users.
The notion of having some animation on the screen shouldn't be limited to a few specific handsets. We have the technology, we just have to make it work the way we want.
I agree to an extent, I think those mock iPhone apps are useless, but that's because I think the iPhone interface is useless. I prefer to think those apps exist for another reason...to show iPhone users that there's nothing special or cool about their phone. I like being able to say, "I can do everything your phone can, but can your phone do this?" At that point, I can show off the other home screens, interfaces, and tools that they can never aspire towards because of the mountains of limits put on their phones.
The home screen on the iPhone sucks, we all know this...but it's made cool to the millions because of a few simple animations. The complainers on this thread are ignoring how much more appeal can be gained with such small improvements. Just think about the incredibly simple animations they use, and how easy some of them would be to duplicate (or improve upon).
Alright, I've probably said too much...I'll go sit down and shut up...
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very well said. i feel the same way and think that the touch pro definately has the specs to be able to do simple animations like fading in and out of applications. im kind of glad the iphone's home screen is just a boring app launcher. Now if it was able to run plug ins like tf3d and spb mobile shell, windows mobile may be in trouble

why is the iphone mentioned here? the iphone has over (IDK) generations and they all look alike nothing different and just plain boring, i mean it has one main button and the apps are just lined up! "TALK ABOUT A BORING UI"

If you really want animations, you sadly need to look for 3rd party software. Who knows maybe it'll be built into WinMo 7 but for the time being, cool "Iphone-esque" animations can be acquired by using SPB mobile shell. It doesn't necissarily have the same sliding animations, but it does give you a carosel(sp) and shifting block menu animations. Sorry I can't post screen shots, I just recently removed it cuz I couldn't get the weather to work right LOL. But aside from that... You can take one or the other and at the risk of sounding overly cliched, you can't have your cake and eat it....
On a side note... We were having Palm Pre training, and my trainer was bashing the Iphone left n right. It was actually pretty funny. He referred to it as "nothing more than a glorified paperweight for the A.D.D. generation incapable of performing any task without the use of an application". I felt pretty stupid tho cuz half of the applications he was talking about I have on my Touch Pro. Hehehe....

notoriouspyro said:
If you really want animations, you sadly need to look for 3rd party software. Who knows maybe it'll be built into WinMo 7 but for the time being, cool "Iphone-esque" animations can be acquired by using SPB mobile shell. It doesn't necissarily have the same sliding animations, but it does give you a carosel(sp) and shifting block menu animations. Sorry I can't post screen shots, I just recently removed it cuz I couldn't get the weather to work right LOL. But aside from that... You can take one or the other and at the risk of sounding overly cliched, you can't have your cake and eat it....
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I've used SPB for some time now on my Loox and I enjoy it very much. The new 3.0 is a great piece of work but like you mentioned it is still buggy.... The thing that gets me are the graphics! Why don't they develop skins for the shell??? You, I, he, they all have different likes and dislikes and ideas on how our systems should look and feel. If SPB would design a more user friendly version of the Shell it would definitely end up on everybodys mobile.

siggty7 said:
can anybody come up with animations for htc touch pro running wm6.5
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why on earth would I want something like that? so I can slow down my ppc? so I can be kewl n l33t like the iphone people? if I wanted all that crap, I woulda got an iphone like my wife. I wanted something a little more tweakable and something I could play with.. not a shiny thing for status.

Why I hate my Touch Pro

Well... This is a personal rant and I've already seen a lot of similar messages. It usually starts with an "my iPhone is better" and the answer always seems to be something along the lines of "ah, it sucks, our Touch Pro is way better, you'll be coming back crying", yadda-yadda-yadda. Here is my take - and I don't mean to offend anyone... I write this because I'm totally dissapointed with MY Touch Pro. Maybe you feel good about yours, it does whatever you needed/wanted, you simply love it.
iPhone is better. A heck of a lot better. I wish I had chose to buy one instead of this piece of crap that calls itself a "smartphone". Why? Well... I came to the world of Windows Mobile with a Tytn, a great all-round phone that had some problems but mostly did what it was supposed to do. The friendly guys and gals in this site managed to squeeze every ounce of life, speed, features and durability from it, making me totally love it. Custom ROMs made it faster and faster, added new and useful features... but... But then came "the new phones". Theoretically, they were faster, they had more memory, "they were better" in every single category. And Touch Pro was at the top, so, after lots of thought, loving its design and hating the fact I had to use an external GPS device with my Tytn, I splashed the cash and bought a brand new, shiny Touch Pro. More memory. More speed. Better screen. Better graphics. Better sound. Better GPS... NOT.
Even with custom ROMs, my Touch Pro crawls like a snail when compared with my Tytn. I mean it, and I tried more than 10 different ones (and I don't count different versions, but different cooks). The device simply seems unable to cope with its official interface, Touchflo 3D, whereas Manilla 2D ran screaming on the Tytn. Touch Pro has more Ram, theoretically making Opera usable. Goodbye ol' crashes of the Tytn, with Touch Pro I can finally browse the Internets happily! Or can I? Opera seems to totally suck compared to the iPhones Safari, and that doesn't come from an iPhone lover - I hate almost anything Apple ever created, including the iPhone. BUT... Whenever I'm with a friend of mine that has an iPhone, browsing the net through it is pure joy compared to the nightmare of Touch Pro. Appart from feeling more "fluid", iPhone is a lot faster when changing from portrait to landscape. Yeah, the online keyboard sucks, but so does the hardware keyboard of Touch pro compared to the one in my old Tytn (I know, "it's my opinion", never said it's a global rule).
The slow-as-hell problem applies to every single function or application in my Touch Pro. I'm with the afformentioned friend and we want to tweet something? Perfect. In ten seconds he's taken a snapshot in his iPhone, opened Twitter and posted a message, picture included. I'm still waiting for a Twitter app to load. We want to take some notes? He taps, writes, saves. In 5 secs. I'm taking out the stylus, for the interface buttons are too small for my fingers. I select Start>Utilities>Notes, wait for the Notes app to load, wait, wait, after it loads hunt the tiny "new" somewhere below the screen, wait for a new note to open, open the keyboard, wait for the screen to realign, type, wait for the characters to appear (and yes, I have applied the TX9 tweak but the keyboard is still painfully slow), save the note, close the keyboard, close the notes app, wait for the screen to realign. Ah, what a joy.
And the apps! Oh, those glorious apps! We have ten unusable RSS readers, 5 different commercial programs that try to improve our phones interface (each failing miserably in different ways), and... Well, that's it. We then have about 10 different calculators and stopwatches. And we call this, THIS, "a productivity device"? WTF can we do with this brick? What is it useful for? Taking photos? Even that is slow-as-hell compared with Tytn, after trying every-single-tweak. The subject of the photo has to be perfectly still, or else everything is blurry.
And the insult is that whenever I search for something new and useful for this brick, I find new fonts, new wallpapers, new manilla tweaks, some scripts or mini-apps that change the new WM6.5 chromes appearance! These are our "apps", when iPhone has new note-taking apps, new task managers, new VNC-like applications, emulators, games, anything... And yet we bash it as a kiddie phone and we hail out Touch Pro as a "serious" device. What's serious about a phone that cost me more than my wage (yeah, it costs -that- much in Greece where I live) and all that I can do with it is stare at slightly-different-colored-menues-than-the-default-ones? That's all there is to it?
Sorry for this, and sorry for coming out as an angry SOB, but I'm up to here with it. I'd really like somebody to come up and give me some advice or tips on how to make HTCs brick useful in some way, show me that I didn't actually throw my money away on a useless gadget. 'Cause I paid for an almighty device that in theory could do almost anything. It's as "smart" as my Tytn, it's slower than it in GPS and taking Pictures, there's no touch-friendly software for it (har-har, and it's called "Touch Pro", yeah, right)... WTF am I supossed to use it for? Paperweight?
I'm all ears people. Anyone wanting to tell me how they actually use their pricey device? Why you're happy with it and wouldn't change it for anything else? Does anyone -not- have the problems I have, and what did he do to avoid them? Am I totally wrong - and why?
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Ducklord

DAMN!!
What is the word or letter limit in XDA forums?
Our Touch Pro is way better, you'll be coming back crying, yadda-yadda-yadda.

See? See how disappointed I am? I'm mr. writesalot!
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Ducklord

Still love mines....iphone in my eyes is a childs toy just a bunch of flashy things to take your mind off what it lacks....Wow my iPhone can cook dinner for me with this app,but then again to MMS i have to pay another $600 to get a new model of the phone when I just bought a 3G 6 months ago.....and I get no warranty....Tell me how the iphone is better when everytime they add new things that should've been on the phone from the start you have to buy a new model to have?MMS,Video,Teethering

Honestly, you make a lot of good points.
I've had similar experiences with people using the iphone in the same ways. It may be nothing more than an "application launcher" but the applications actually do something useful, quickly.
I don't like the iphone. I don't like apple. As a matter of fact I actually hate both of them very much... but I see your point and I'm almost as fed up as you are.
I'm looking forward to hearing what people reply with.
The Microsoft store may alleviate some of this, hopefully, but I'm not holding my breath. My plan is to wait for the next generation of phones, see if HTC still screws everyone over with drivers or other ass-hattery, and make a decision then.
Incidentally I have a Jornada 568 from 2002 that runs emulated games as well as my Fuze, plays Mp3s without stuttering (while using an external keyboard to write short stories with), plays video without tearing, and has a standard headphone jack. If I could I would just stick a phone in it and use that instead.

hey ducklord, sorry to hear about ur misery. I own a touch pro, and i find it to be quite perfect.. perhaps with a good set of ROM. Why don't you try out EnergyROM magic (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530882)? It works like a charm for me...

Sparkz914 said:
Wow my iPhone can cook dinner for me with this app,but then again to MMS i have to pay another $600 to get a new model of the phone when I just bought a 3G 6 months ago
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From what the afformentioned friend told me, "no-mms" is a problem of AT&T or some other provider that offers the iPhone in the States. To prove it, he sent me an MMS "giving me the finger". He's on Cosmote (Greek Provider), and uses a totally un-tweaked, locked, out-of-the-box iPhone.
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.....and I get no warranty....Tell me how the iphone is better when everytime they add new things that should've been on the phone from the start you have to buy a new model to have?MMS,Video,Teethering
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As I told you, no-mms is not an issue. Tethering, if you mean "having access to the Internets from your laptop through your phone" -IS- a problem, witch though can be solved by buying a USB/PCMCIA/Something GPRS modem. For about 30 euros. On the other hand, not 30, not 50, not 400 euros can make my Touch Pro something more useful than a brick. You mean, you REALLY use tethering all the time? You REALLY use video conference? The rates are sky-high here in Greece - 10 video calls would cost the same as the damn phone! Ah, and here's another point where iPhone (and almost any other device) is better: was your Touch Pro usable out of the box? Want me to point you to other posts by other users that say how much it sucked until they installed a custom Rom (and thus lost its warranty)? THIS is how a device is supposed to work? By exchanging its official warranty with a custom-cooked ROM, created by people that, up to a point, are GUESSING what-should-work (and they're doing a great job at that)... For Baal's shake, cooks, developers and lots of users are prowling the insides of other phones to find drivers witch they'll be able to tweak so that our damn brick will be able to play videoclips and long-forgotten-emulators like 3-year-old devices do! I mean, gosh, HTC should PAY XDA Developers for making their phone bearable! But, ofcourse, you are happy... No video, no speed, sluggish loading and typing, godawful GPS, no useful apps whatsoever... But you have tethering. Somehow, I don't quite believe you.
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I've had similar experiences with people using the iphone in the same ways. It may be nothing more than an "application launcher" but the applications actually do something useful, quickly.
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AAAND, ladies and gentleman, that's the whole point. Even with all the other problems, IF, and thats the most important thing, IF our phone had some really useful AND easy-to-use apps, that other phones didn't, or IF it excelled in some way, the situation would be bearable. Its not just that its hardware sucks, its insulting that we can't run (and use) stuff on it!
And please, if any programmer is reading this, the place is called XDA Developers. Please, DEVELOP something. No, tweaking the interface isn't "developing", it's "tweaking". And although I don't know anything about programming, I'd be more than happy to "develop" graphics for a useful app.
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Ducklord

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the place is called XDA Developers. Please, DEVELOP something. No, tweaking the interface isn't "developing", it's "tweaking".
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Ducklord
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hahaha took the words out of my mouth... they say that WM has thousands of apps but from what i see its, 1000 half-done interfaces / 5000 tweaks, customizers, and "fixes" and 50 somewhat of apps ready to use that does at least something other than what the phone could already do but wanted to make it look "pretty" like a new contact manager, dialer, etc.
on the other hand the iphone has their own job search app, NBA play by play app, and more things other than what the phone could already do in the first place
im worried about "Marketplace" as well cuz there are multiple screen resolutions, models, and kinds of WM devices that the compatibility will not be all there when it comes to all the apps

I want to clarify that as unimpressed with the Fuze as I am, I am more than impressed and grateful for all the work done for it by the people here on XDA.
I'm glad to have a repository of software, knowledge, and development like this.
It makes me wonder what could be done with a machine that didn't need to be fixed or flashed right out of the box.
My problems with this phone stem from AT&T, HTC themselves, and to a lesser extent Microsoft. I appreciate that there's such a supportive community cleaning up these three company's messes.

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I want to clarify that as unimpressed with the Fuze as I am, I am more than impressed and grateful for all the work done for it by the people here on XDA.
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Well, I'm grateful for XDA, but not for "all the work they've done for Touch Pro". No, I'm not whining or disregarding their work, it's just that I had the idea they really squeezed the life out of my Tytn, but they give me the impression that they've just touched the surface of Touch Pro.
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Ducklord

Patience
May be you just need some patience. How long has the TyTn been out compared to the TP? As for me, I have very little experience with the iPhone but my Fuze(unlocked and on T-Mobile) has very little delay in any program. I am running 1 of the best ROMs (imho), NRG's wonderful magic series.

who cares about the iphone..i just got the palm pre for my business device and man its such a relief..i still have my fuze but find myself using it less and less..its so nice to have a device not have so many issues..and just work the way i need it to..and i know webOS is still young but man i think its gonna be the next big thing..ill never give up on windows mobile though...it may be not up to the times in GUI but its an old bull and knows what its doing..but for now i need something that works with the times so my Pre is my main device for now..im still flashing every new rom NRG puts out tho on my fuze lol and ive gotten to tap into my linux side with rooting my Pre and doing all the hacks

NRGs ROMs are what my Touch Pro runs, and although quite fast in the TouchFlo 3D department, loading and running apps takes a lot of time for my taste. And just think that NRGs is one of the fastest ROMs but, still, Touch Pro can't match the usage speed of Tytn (I mean in the interface department), not even counting the 5 to 15 seconds for an app to load (5 to 10 seconds for the camera? The subject of the photo will be dead and gone until the snap is taken!). And even if you put up with this sluginess... Where are the apps? After posting the 1st message I did a visit to "the usual places" to see what's new in WM world... The joy is unimaginable! Three new versions of the same 'ol SPB software, a "smart calculator" and a stopwatch... Great...
As for the Pre, well, when your wage is arround 700-900 euros and a phone like those we're talking about costs from 600 to 1200 euros... Let's just say I'm stuck with this brick for two-three more years. Ahrgh... Teh pains...
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Ducklord
PS: How, tell me, HOW hard would it be to create two simple, decent apps, one for taking Notes and one for managing Tasks? I'd be in heaven if I found two, just these two apps, that loaded fast, where Touch Friendly and could sync with Outlook. Or some GTD apps. Or some productivity ones. That could sync with our PC. Heck, I bought a WINDOWS MOBILE device so as to sync to my WINDOWS PC. And an Apple phone has more apps that sync with outlook. And better.
PS2: Have you realized how shafted we are from anyone and any company? Evernote for WM is the only decent notes-taking app I found. And, SPECIFICALLY in WM, you have to have a data connection active to use it. No local notes and syncing later. No local storage, no local search. After we payed one wage for out phone, we have to pay another one in data costs to use it! Ack! De Happines! De Joy!

have you tried thumbcal? it is a finger friendly GUI and it replaces the wm standard calender and tasks and i believe you can take notes down too..and so if you have an exchange server setup (i use mail2web) then itl sync everything and you can sync outlook to your exchange too and there you have device to pc seemless syncing and then i used this regedit whch i made to use thumbcal when you tap a shortcut that uses a hard wired shortcut (like tf3d)

yah once htc shifted from TI OMAP to Qualcomm MSMxxxx processors things went downhill...

I dunno I have a sprint touch pro and on mighty rom wm6.5 and I love it. It's as fast as my gf's iphone. My phone is alot better than hers except playing music. Plus, I can't stand looking at the screen of iphone! The resolution is really bad and I get a headache!!

I dunno why you have to wait to load a note program because it doesn't have any loading for me. I can write and save in no time. Also, when you open the keyboard there is a shortcut for notes. You can always assign your talk button as a note program too.

I'll admit that there are some delays when switching apps, and some apps take longer to load than others.
You do realize that there are other apps out there besides what's on this site don't you? There are literally thousands of apps out there. Look at Handandgo for example.
My ROM has PocketNotepad cooked in. As soon as I open it, it opens me to a blank notepad and I can start typing right away. It opens in 1-2 seconds for me, which I think is reasonable.
I don't use tasks, so I can't really speak for that side of it.

i dont find energyroms particularly fast, not sure why everyone says its fast. it's definitely not faster compared to a tweaked lite rom. but i guess with the eye candy and full suite of apps, it's relatively fast.
I tried launching notepad and it took less than 2 secs to be able to write a new note. if it's that slow on your phone, your phone obviously has issues.

Partially agree
On the first few days I was thinking the same because I've been waiting for a phone like this for ages and here in Romania it costs more then double of an average salary so you can imagine that people get scared once they give out so much money on a single device which doesn't behave as it should. In fact it has quite a few bugs but still wouldn't change it for the iPhone...
Notes application starts in about 2 seconds for me and energyRom is decently fast - I wish I could remove that colourful taskbar though because I hate it and no one gave me an answer how to change it. Even tried one method and had to reflash the device. Anyway...
The GPS problem pisses me off because I thought it's as good as the one from the Diamond but turns out to be awful. I use IGO8 and it sucks. It locks on my position in about 10 minutes. Not good at all.
The camera is not bad, music is decent, but those aren't things that smart-phones are famous for...
Overall I am happy with this device, or should I say I have no other choice then to be happy with it and would like to thank the people from XDA Developers for their time and for correcting the errors that Microsoft should had corrected. Waiting for new apps and as ducklord said - I can help designing some of the apps so if any developer needs design, we're here. I'm not good at programming though.
Bela

has any of you gone from an iphone 4 to HD7?

Ok guys i have an iphone 4 and i'm thinking of getting a HD7 have any of you done that and regretted it? or thought is was the best move ever? i'm on the verge of making the move but obviously it is alot of money if it isn't right...My girlfriend has just got one and i like it..but obviously it isn't mine!!!...
The apps on itunes are just plain overcrowed now and apps is no biggy for me any more...as i have an ipad if need be and obviously windows 7 has MS games which some are good.
what do you think?

You might find this link helpful:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/mthree/archive/2010/11/19/iphone-to-wp7-111910.aspx

thanks but that is more of a sales pitch blog...lol...i want real peoples experiences...anyone??

Theguru1 said:
thanks but that is more of a sales pitch blog...lol...i want real peoples experiences...anyone??
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No, it's a guide to help you help you migrate. Should you decide that's what you want to do.

yes and i appericiate that thanks...i just wondered if anyone has made the move...i'm stuck whether to keep the phone or not..

Nearly there...
I'm a iPhone 4 32Gb owner since June launch day with a HTC HD7 on it's way to me in the next few days or week (all depending on USPS First Class International Mail!). Once I get it, I will upgrade it with a SanDisk 32GB Class 2 with help with another thread here.
I'm looking forward to the HTC HD7 and I know deep down there will be some things that will niggle me about WP7... however, I just want to have decent notification which WP7 has! Jailbreaking the iPhone has been easy (but the present jailbreak is 'teathered'- urgh!).
I've been using 'Notify Pro' which has been a pain on the iPhone. To be honest, I thought why am I wasting my time with this buggy third party app from Cydia to get something which should be standard in the first place. I'm also impressed how it has so far integrated FaceBook in WP7, but Twitter needs some tweaking I hear.
I most probably miss the 'iPod ecosystem' (docks and car ICE) but hoping the WP7 UI will wow me and the screen size does look great for browsing the Internet and watching media (Use to have a HTC HD2 and loved the screen but not the constant rebooting!).
I'm planning to keep the iPhone 4 and HD7 for a few months... perhaps, Microsoft's upgrade in January might swing it for me finally!

Theguru1 said:
yes and i appericiate that thanks...i just wondered if anyone has made the move...i'm stuck whether to keep the phone or not..
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I have had both
they are both excellent
the HD7 has a superior user interface, in that you can switch between a tiled status screen and a list of icons. Its also slicker and cooler (whatever that means )
the larger screen is great. the web browser is slightly slower but it can render some things the iphone browser can't, e.g. go to unlocking.com and try the drop-downs on the iphone ..... I will also be able to do flash at some point, something apple has vowed not to do
its drawbacks are that the app storee has some fun stuff but its small compared to apple. The biggest thing about the WM7 user interface, the active tiles, need to be expanded more. i would like something "HTC sense" like. Obviously we are also waiting for cut & paste in the Jan firmware release.
There is apossibility of expanding the HD7's memory manually as well, as its actually an embedded MicroSD card which many folk have already taken out and replaced with a 32gb one.

thanks alexander for your insight..its just i have had an iphone since 3g, 3gs, 4 and suddenly i thought i need a change i also have had hd2 which i loved..but because of the bugs it had to go..i also have 32gb iphone 4 but one thing is bothering me is "you don't know what you have got until it has gone" i think i will have another go tonight

colonel said:
I have had both
they are both excellent
the HD7 has a superior user interface, in that you can switch between a tiled status screen and a list of icons. Its also slicker and cooler (whatever that means )
the larger screen is great. the web browser is slightly slower but it can render some things the iphone browser can't, e.g. go to unlocking.com and try the drop-downs on the iphone ..... I will also be able to do flash at some point, something apple has vowed not to do
its drawbacks are that the app storee has some fun stuff but its small compared to apple. The biggest thing about the WM7 user interface, the active tiles, need to be expanded more. i would like something "HTC sense" like. Obviously we are also waiting for cut & paste in the Jan firmware release.
There is apossibility of expanding the HD7's memory manually as well, as its actually an embedded MicroSD card which many folk have already taken out and replaced with a 32gb one.
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Thank you..So what would you choose? ip4 or hd7?

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Thank you..So what would you choose? ip4 or hd7?
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it depends on the person. the iphone is more compact and more beautiful (although the HT7 is also very nice).
you first need to decide whether you are comfortable with the size of the device.
also, have you purchased many iphone apps ? you might have "buyer remorse" letting these go
i personally continue to use both. I get bored of the iphone very quickly, then the HD7 is more fun. But then I miss my apps so go back to the iphone for a bit ....
If you have no app investment then definitely try out the HD7

Hello,
I have both and to be honest, I don't know which one to advice..... ;-))
Both are great in differents ways, iPhone is iPhone and I have had one since the first model. I have had plenty of Windows mobile device about 15, I guess.
Now, WP7 looks great, integration with Facebook and of course Xbox live...this is THE point.
I love having my Xbox live account with me all the time, having success on my phone when away from home....
On an other side, I'm so used to my iPhone, I have plenty of softwares I know and I like very much....
So, I decieded to keep both for the moment with 2 SIM cards, like this I have the best from both....
To be honest I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab as well and it's so great....
So the best, if you have enought money, is to have one of each... ;-))
Regards,

I went from iPhone 3G S to the HTC HD7 (T-Mobile branded). There's not much I'm missing. Maybe tethering but I'm sure that will soon be fixed. I like not having to convert anymore of my music. I can load the CD and burn it to hard drive and I can play it straight away on the phone. I don't have to convert it to Apple format to make it portable. I like that I can swap the battery too. Couldn't do that with iPhone. There's a few other nuances but that will happen with anything new. That's only one perspective though. Keep watching for the suggestions and feedback.

I have both the iPhone 4 (haven't sold yet) and the HD7 (just got).
I feel like the operating system on the HD7 is so much better than iOS, but that is going to be personal preference, varying with what people want to do, how techy they are, etc.
As far as the actual phones go, I love the HD7. It's not a retina display, but the size is fantastic and colors vibrant.
Honestly, the only things I miss from my iPhone are jailbreak apps. The new windows OS has already been hacked, so it's only a matter of time until I have them again

Lenas said:
I have both the iPhone 4 (haven't sold yet) and the HD7 (just got).
I feel like the operating system on the HD7 is so much better than iOS, but that is going to be personal preference, varying with what people want to do, how techy they are, etc.
As far as the actual phones go, I love the HD7. It's not a retina display, but the size is fantastic and colors vibrant.
Honestly, the only things I miss from my iPhone are jailbreak apps. The new windows OS has already been hacked, so it's only a matter of time until I have them again
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Really? I dont see any threads about it being hacked yet? Only that they are porting it to HD2

guys thanks i'm going to make the jump...i'm ebaying from tonight...and go for the hd7...i keep thinking about it so i thought why not...!!
hello XDA again lol...

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Really? I dont see any threads about it being hacked yet? Only that they are porting it to HD2
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The ChevronWP7 unlock. Allows sideloading of apps on any WP7 device.

stillbrad said:
Really? I dont see any threads about it being hacked yet? Only that they are porting it to HD2
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there is an app for the hack... all u need to do is search... however there are no apps to be side loaded so its not used yet

SPB SHELL?

is there a free working version of this? Thanks.

There is if you look around but honestly its not that good..

Try Regina 3D Launcher. I've seen/heard 50-50 reviews on it being comparible to Mobile Shell 3D and it's free.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nemustech.regina

cool, new to this. any other suggestions? any better keyboards? thanks for all ur help guys....

cujo25 said:
cool, new to this. any other suggestions? any better keyboards? thanks for all ur help guys....
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Launcher Pro is a good launcher, ADW Ex is popular as well. You just need to browse around and find the best replacement launcher for you.
Define "better keyboard". What makes a keyboard better to you? I like Swype. I've also heard good things about SwiftKey is good as well - but the cost is $2.

I don't think spb is a great launcher anyway. It has nice looking features but they don't work too good. The weather looks nice but is always way off. It uses old forecasts to tell current weather. And it doesn't seem to know Washington dc exists.
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I tried Spd Mobile shell and noticed alot of battery drain guessing from all the widgets it's packed with. It was cool visually but wasn't for me.. i'll stick with my launcher pro but for something free Regina is pretty cool too it has that itunes cover flow feel.

I used a previous version of SPB Mobile Shell on Windows Mobile 6.1, it was a great app for the limited UI in Windows Mobile. It is certainly not a must have for Android, with so many good / great launchers including good old Sense, Launcher Pro, ADW and GO Launcher (among others). I have used all of these and the differences you have to try. A cute UI that I tried recently was Spark .. free but not for me, cool views though.

*SIGH*
Anyone here actually USE SPB Shell 3D? No, there's not a free version and no it's not cheap. But it DOES take 4x4 widgets to a whole new level. It takes a while to boot up when my phone starts up but once its up it's been running fine. With the new BAMF GB lockscreen and SPB Shell my phone is just SICK! I've tried to go back, but I've gotten used to its deliciousness (and it DOES wow everyone I've showed it to) and with each upgrade it gets better.
There's a reason that OVER 9000! people have given it good ratings on the Market....

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Anyone here actually USE SPB Shell 3D? No, there's not a free version and no it's not cheap. But it DOES take 4x4 widgets to a whole new level. It takes a while to boot up when my phone starts up but once its up it's been running fine. With the new BAMF GB lockscreen and SPB Shell my phone is just SICK! I've tried to go back, but I've gotten used to its deliciousness (and it DOES wow everyone I've showed it to) and with each upgrade it gets better.
There's a reason that OVER 9000! people have given it good ratings on the Market....
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Yup I think I'd give it a good rating too if I were foolish enough to spend $15.00 on a home replacement that slows the phone down and doesn't really do anything special that can't be had cheaper elsewhere. You know, just to make myself feel better.
(edit)Yes I have tried it before you ask.

There's always a free version of everything, if you're willing to look for two minutes.
That being said, I didn't find it useful enough to buy, especially for 15 dollars. Rather donate it to the BAMF guys. Battery drain, and the novelty wore off quick.
Favorite keyboards:
Swiftkey
FlexT9 (swype, but better)
If you don't want to buy a keyboard, the gingerbread keyboard is pretty darn good.

Thanks for such insight!
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Yup I think I'd give it a good rating too if I were foolish enough to spend $15.00 on a home replacement that slows the phone down and doesn't really do anything special that can't be had cheaper elsewhere. You know, just to make myself feel better.
(edit)Yes I have tried it before you ask.
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So you spent 15 dollars and yet didn't succumb to the "feel better"? Wow, the force is strong within you!
Because I haven't complained about SPB in a review and followed up with another review saying it wasn't ready for prime time (at the time). You're so right. Gosh, you must be like Miss Chleo or something.
No added functionality? I guess it depends on the user. I've found:
1. The carousel isn't like anything out there. The free alternative doesn't have the same functionality/ease of use. I find it especially handy for easy access to widget screens that are 8 screens back. I don't have to cycle through them.
2. Beautiful 4x4 custom widgets. I've not had the problems with the weather widget. It's especially handy when looking for the 5 day outlook quickly. And the calendar widget is fantastic too. It's pretty and functional.
3. Ability to add screens on the fly (up to 16)
SPB Shell lags on boot/first use, but I've had no slowing of my phone in daily use after boot. The problems I experienced before were problems that have been fixed since my second follow up review.
And have I mentioned it's absolutely beautiful?
But you're right and those 9000 fools (and Google, who showed off SPB Shell in their booth last year at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona) are just sore. Couldn't be the oohs and ahhhs I got from people looking at my phone. It couldn't be both the increased functionality and aesthetic beauty of the custom widgets. It's all because they're upset they spent so much on it. Thanks on your comment. It's changed my life and I am now in perfect agreement with you.

tekhna said:
There's always a free version of everything, if you're willing to look for two minutes.
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Free? I think the word you're looking for is stolen/warez. You're "free" to steal it. But there's no "free" version of it in the market.
That being said, I didn't find it useful enough to buy, especially for 15 dollars. Rather donate it to the BAMF guys. Battery drain, and the novelty wore off quick.
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I've had absolutely zero battery improvement when I've used Launcherpro or stock over SPB. But you can't upgrade apkwarez, can you?
Everything is relative. I like things that are functional and pretty. SPB is both. And just a quick note, donating to the BAMF guys isn't against the rules if you buy SPB...you can do both.

I think SPB is neck and neck with Sense. They're both great looking, fast, and functional. If my phone didn't have sense I would use SPB all the time.
As for keyboards, I was able to get FlexT9 when it was free from Amazon and its awesome.

I bought SPB and I have mixed feelings about it. Yes it's great and it's fast... when it's loaded. I don't use a task killer but it seems that often when I unlock my phone, it needs to reload part of the launcher and that adds a delay that I don't like.
I'm also not impressed at the development. They did add one new 3D widget for birthdays but it never works well for me, it's always missing some people and the people I see change every time I reboot.
It has a lot of potential, I just hope that the devs won't take the money they have now and leave the launcher stagnant.

I have been running SPB Shell 3D for several days, I have no lag, no battery drain (not any worse than running on just Sense, and better than GB rom) I have it fully configured with my own weather app etc. I really find this app to be pretty cool, it works and I have not had crashes or anything else yet with it.

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So you spent 15 dollars and yet didn't succumb to the "feel better"? Wow, the force is strong within you!
Because I haven't complained about SPB in a review and followed up with another review saying it wasn't ready for prime time (at the time). You're so right. Gosh, you must be like Miss Chleo or something.
No added functionality? I guess it depends on the user. I've found: ...........
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Don't take it so personal, I happen to think that spending 15 on spb is foolish, my opinion should really not have garnered such a response from you, you didn't develop the program right. But you are a hell of a defender I'll give you that.
To clarify, I'm sure this was the best thing since sliced bread on winmo but as was stated above there are many many options for launchers on android. I have spent >$15.00 on the different launchers out there, does that make me a fool, probably because I was happy with the first one I purchased. But you know I don't feel too bad in this case because I think the people who got my money deserve it. Anyways I'm done, sorry if I upset you.

I might be mistaken but i remember reading there was a free alternative to SPB Shell that had many similar features. Can't remember the name, though.
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m00nshake said:
I might be mistaken but i remember reading there was a free alternative to SPB Shell that had many similar features. Can't remember the name, though.
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I think you may be thinking of regina?

Chopes said:
I think you may be thinking of regina?
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That was it... How's that match up?
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